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The Social-Engineer Podcast is about humans. Understanding how we interact, communicate and relay information can help us protect, mitigate and understand social engineering attacks
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Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Paul Vann and Justin Marciano.   Paul Vann is a seasoned cybersecurity professional, with experience across numerous emerging markets in the field. He has worked at a wide array of cybersecurity and software development startups, helping to ensure a more secure future for all. Paul additionally is passionate about emerging technologies in the space and was recognized as a Top rated Speaker at the RSA Conference in 2023.   Justin Marciano is the Co-Founder and CEO of IdentifAI. Studying economics with a concentration in finance at the University of Virginia, he has navigated his way through the venture capital, blockchain, and payment sectors, aligning his career path with his enthusiasm for emerging technologies. Justin currently works in product management and has previously worked at Stepstone Group as a VC & Growth Analyst. [April 15, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:22 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                03:44 - Paul Vann & Justin Marciano Intro 04:55 - IdentifAI 05:53 - Follow the Trends 06:37 - How Big is This Problem? 09:37 - Deepfakes for Hacking 10:43 - A Real Story 12:38 - Using What's Real 14:11 - Beyond Cat & Mouse 17:02 - AI and the Law 19:29 - Tracing the Source 21:59 - Balancing Act 23:44 - Training or Expanding? 29:35 - An Attempt Was Made 32:04 - Keeping it Real 34:38 - A New Partnership! 35:59 - Find Justin and Paul online -          Website: identif-ai.com -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/identifai-llc -          Justin's LinkedIn: in/justin-marciano32/ -          Paul's LinkedIn: in/paul-vann-b996b2120/ 37:13 - Mentors -          Justin: -          Jeff Silver -          Martin Roche -          Paul: -          Paul Vann (Father) -          Jennifer Romeo 39:30 - Book Recommendations -          The Hardware Hacking Handbook - Colin O'Flynn and Jasper van Woudenberg -          On the Origin of Time - Thomas Hertog -          Blink - Malcolm Gladwell 41:37 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Today we are joined by Chris Voss. Mr. Voss is a former Lead FBI Negotiator and dynamic speaker who debunks the biggest myths of negotiation. Chris engages all groups with captivating stories, insights, and useful tips for business and everyday life. He has lectured on negotiation at business schools across the country and has been seen on ABC, CBS, CNN, and Fox News. Chris has also been featured in Forbes, Time, Fast Company, and Inc. Chris’s Keynotes are based on his book Never Split The Difference©. [April 8, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:20 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 02:26 - Chris Voss Intro 03:25 - Good Work If You Can Get It 04:51 - A Donkey, A Clown & A Hippopotamus 08:52 - Emotions Are Contagious 10:02 - Proof of Life 13:23 - Mirror, Mirror 17:21 - Negotiation is a Language 18:44 - Empathy, Not Advice 22:28 - Be Willing to be Wrong 29:46 - Slaughter at Harvard 33:17 - Empathy Isn't Agreement 36:51 - Validating Perspective 38:27 - It Starts with Practice 40:43 - Mentors -          Parents -          Gary Noesner 41:39 - Book Recommendations -          Chip War - Chris Miller -          Never Split the Difference - Chris Voss 43:22 - Find Chris Voss online -          Website: blackswanltd.com -          Instagram: @thefbinegotiator -          Twitter: @fbinegotiator -          YouTube: @NegotiationMastery 44:23 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.   In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are joined by Dr. David Matsumoto.  Dr. Matsumoto, Director of Humintell, is a world-renowned expert in the fields of emotion, nonverbal behavior, deception, and culture. He received his bachelor’s degree from the University of Michigan in 1981, double majoring in psychology and Japanese and receiving High Honors in both. He obtained his Masters (1983) and Doctoral (1986) degrees in Psychology from the University of California at Berkeley. He has been a Professor of Psychology at San Francisco State University (SFSU) since 1989, and is the Founder and Director of SFSU’s Culture and Emotion Research Laboratory.   Dr. Matsumoto is an expert in threat assessment and management, especially in relation to behavioral indicators of operational bad actors. He has conducted the only study to date of the cognitions, emotions, and behaviors of bad actors when they are actively engaged in an act of violence, and he has briefed the results of this work to several government agencies. He has also conducted decades of research on behavioral indicators related to deception about the intent to commit acts of malfeasance in the future, and the behavioral indicators that emerged from this work has been briefed to countless military, intelligence, and law enforcement agencies and operators. [April 1, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 01:16 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                 03:29 - Dr. David Matsumoto Intro 05:02 - The Topic of the Day: Emotion & Nonverbal Communication 05:29 - The Origins of Human Emotion 09:46 - Olympic-Level Study 17:00 - Strike a Pose 19:30 - Behavioral Indicators 25:01 - Emotional Buffer 25:42 - Data Sourcing 31:26 - In Context 32:51 - The Anonymous Factor 35:37 - The Human Factor 37:15 - New Book 37:58 - A Writers Obligation 41:46 - On A Mission 45:11 - Find Dr. Matsumoto Online -          Website: www.humintell.com -          X/Twitter: @davidmatsumoto -          LinkedIn: in/davidmatsumoto -          YouTube: @Humintell 46:00 - Wrap Up 46:29 - Next Month: Overworking 46:59 - Outro                                                                     -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online: -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a -          Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy
Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Join Chris as he discusses topics and news pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [March 25, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:18 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 04:48 - Ransomware: No Code of Conduct 06:50 - Education 07:52 - Policies 09:17 - Protection 10:14 - Backup Plan 11:05 - Gone Phishin' 12:50 - Verify, Verify, Verify 14:26 - If You See Something, Say Something -          FTC Website: reportfraud.ftc.gov 15:32 - Reach Out 15:54 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online -          Chris Hadnagy -          Twitter: @humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy
Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris will be talking with Josh Brown and Rachel Jones, both from the Department of Homeland Security. They join us to discuss what Pig Butchering scams are and how we can protect ourselves. [March 18, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:18 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                02:13 - Josh Brown & Rachel Jones Intro 02:52 - Why the Secret Service? 03:44 - Pig Butchering 05:47 - A Global Issue 06:40 - Same Scam, New Method 09:14 - The 12 Steps 13:53 - Pseudo Anonymous 15:13 - Point of Origin 15:38 - Real Money, Fake Return 18:33 - Making it Right! 19:46 - Call Your Local Agent 21:35 - Don't Know, Don't Answer 25:27 - Walk the Dog 27:44 - It Needs to Make Sense 29:58 - What’s Next? 31:25 - Global Concerns 34:30 - Book Recommendations -          The Total Money Makeover- Dave Ramsey -          Tracers in the Dark - Andy Greenberg 36:34 - Online Links -          Website: www.secretservice.gov -          Website: www.usajobs.gov -          Email: CFTFSC@usss.dhs.gov 37:50 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Today we are joined by Agent Brad Beeler. Assistant to the Special Agent in Charge Brad Beeler has been with the United States Secret Service for the past 25 years. He currently serves as instructor and Secret Service liaison at the National Center for Credibility Assessment (NCCA) at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. Over the past 8 years in this role, he has trained agents throughout the federal law enforcement and intelligence community in credibility assessment and elicitation techniques.   Prior to arriving at NCCA, he was a polygraph examiner in the Chicago and St. Louis Field Offices and served on the permanent protection detail of former President George HW Bush and numerous foreign heads of state. Over the past 17 years as a federal polygraph examiner Special Agent Beeler has secured hundreds of confessions on high-profile investigations, often leading to the identification of previously unknown victims of serial offenders of both child exploitation and homicide investigations. Agent Beeler holds a master’s degree in criminology and was previously selected as the U.S. Secret Service - Special Agent of the Year for his involvement in combating crimes against children.   Widely considered a communications expert in the U.S. federal law enforcement community, Agent Beeler has provided countless domestic and international presentations to law enforcement and intelligence agencies seeking to enhance their interviewing programs. [March 11, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:21 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 03:05 - Agent Brad Beeler Intro 05:05 - Part of a Team 07:58 - One of Lincoln's Final Acts 08:52 - Dual Mission 11:45 - The Broadband Effect 14:38 - Team Effort 17:35 - Worst of the Worst 21:13 - Common Ground 23:36 - Letting Them Be Heard 25:51 - Lyrics, Songs and Dance 28:49 - Mental Health Mandates 35:11 - Mentors -          Mrs. Bertran - Teacher -          Brian Leary - DHS Program Manager 37:21 - Book Recommendations -          The Interrogator - Hanns Scharff -          Spy the Lie - Philip Houston -          Captivate & Cues - Vanessa Van Edwards 39:24 - Find Agent Brad Beeler online -          Website: www.usajobs.gov -          Website: www.secretservice.gov -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/bradbeeler1865/ 40:47 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.   In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing Irrational Fears & Phobias. They will talk about the similarities, the differences, why some are necessary and how to overcome the ones that aren’t. [March 4, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:21 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 00:50 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                04:55 - The Topic of the Day: Irrational Fears & Phobias  05:09 - Fear vs Phobia 06:33 - Attack of the Lizard People 08:57 - Fear of the Dark 11:28 - In the Heights 13:54 - Might As Well Jump 15:32 - Flight Mode 17:04 - Send in the Clowns 17:32 - Phobias! We Mean It 19:18 - Genetics Squared 21:06 - Beware the Ladybug! 24:35 - Was it a Bunny? 26:09 - Classical Conditioning 27:10 - Little Albert 29:51 - Fear Factor 32:11 - Animal Intuition 33:40 - Mister Ed              34:50 - Fur Babies 36:01 - Learned Response 38:21 - Changing Minds 42:05 - Safety First! 43:21 - Virtual Assistant 44:55 - Words Matter 47:21 - Next Month: David Matsumoto 48:07 - Wrap Up & Outro                              -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online: -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrAbbieofficial -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a -          Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy   References: De Jongh, A., Muris, P., ter Horst, G., Van Zuuren, F., Schoenmakers, N., & Makkes, P. (1999). One-session cognitive treatment of dental phobia: Preparing dental phobics for treatment by restructuring negative cognitions. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 37(S1), S89-S100. Dilger, S., Straube, T., Mentzel, H. J., Fitzek, C., Reichenbach, J. R., Hecht, H., ... & Miltner, W. H. (2003). Brain activation to phobia-related pictures in spider phobic humans: An event-related functional magnetic resonance imaging study. Neuroscience Letters, 348(1), 29-32. Hettema, J. M., Neale, M. C., & Kendler, K. S. (2001). A review and meta-analysis of the genetic epidemiology of anxiety disorders. American Journal of Psychiatry, 158(10), 1568-1578. Kendler, K. S., Myers, J., & Prescott, C. A. (2002). The etiology of phobias: An evaluation of the stress-diathesis model. Archives of General Psychiatry, 59(3), 242-248. Lacey, C., Frampton, C., & Beaglehole, B. (2022). oVRcome – Self-guided virtual reality for specific phobias: A randomised controlled trial. Australian & New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry, 000486742211107. https://doi.org/10.1177/00048674221110779 Mineka, S., & Zinbarg, R. (2006). A contemporary learning theory perspective on the etiology of anxiety disorders: It's not what you thought it was. American Psychologist, 61(1), 10-26. Ollendick, T. H., Ost, L. G., Reuterskiöld, L., Costa, N., Cederlund, R., Sirbu, C., ... & Jarrett, M. A. (2009). One-session treatment of specific phobias in youth: A randomized clinical trial in the United States and Sweden. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 77(3), 504-516. Rauch, S. L., Whalen, P. J., Shin, L. M., McInerney, S. C., Macklin, M. L., Lasko, N. B., ... & Pitman, R. K. (2000). Exaggerated amygdala response to masked facial stimuli in posttraumatic stress disorder: A functional MRI study. Biological Psychiatry, 47(9), 769-776. University of York. (2023, February 6). Facing fears in just three hours of therapy could resolve phobias in children. Retrieved from https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2023/research/facing-fears-phobias-children/
Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Join Chris as he discusses topics and news pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Feb 26, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:33 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                03:06 - The New(s) Format 04:02 - Mother of All Breaches 05:46 - Banning AI Robocalls 06:39 - AI Deep Fake 07:27 - The Tips 07:47 - Verify 08:26 - Be Cautious 10:25 - Confirm 11:44 - Educate 12:19 - Report 13:41 - Recap 14:21 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online -          Chris Hadnagy -          Twitter: @humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy
Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Mary D'Angelo. Mary helps clients understand the threats that exist on the dark web and how to use that intelligence to bolster their cybersecurity programs. With a solid foundation from the University of Washington, where she earned her Bachelor's degree, Mary has rapidly ascended as a global leader at SearchLight Cyber. Her expertise, honed over six years, delves deep into understanding the nuances of dark web threat actors and their intelligence. Mary's and her company’s insights and analyses have been instrumental in shedding light on the shadowy aspects of cyber threats emanating from the dark web. Her work not only aids in neutralizing these threats but also contributes significantly to the broader understanding of cyber security dynamics. Additionally, Mary’s passion is volunteering her talents into nonprofit organizations. She was a mentor for Big Brothers and Big Sisters. Recently, she has devoted her time to a nonprofit called, The Innocent Lives Foundation, which uses Dark Web Threat Intelligence to help law enforcement stop child traffickers. [Feb 19, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:41 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                02:56 - Mary D’Angelo Intro 04:12 - What is a Dark Web Threat Intelligence Advisor? 04:36 - One Giant Leap 07:04 - On the Front Lines 11:53 - Deep Web, Dark Web, Clear Web...Oh My! 13:43 - Shifting to the Deep 14:58 - Crime Pays 17:39 - 2024 Forecast 19:00 - Left of Boom 20:53 - All in this Together 21:53 - An Ugly Example 25:19 - Timely 26:30 - Relevant 28:02 - Actionable 29:58 - What's Next? 30:54 - Mentors -          Siblings -          Larry Littleton 32:05 - Book Recommendations -          The Practitioner’s Guide to the Dark Web - Searchlight Cyber -          The Ride of a Lifetime - Robert Iger -          Never Split the Difference - Christopher Voss &Tahl Raz 33:33 - Find Mary D'Angelo Online -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dangelomary 33:55 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Today we are joined by Layne Gneiting. Layne is just your average guy.  His family’s a tad bigger than most (he’s got 8 kids), but he lives in a snug 1,800 square foot home in the heart of suburbia, and still wakes up in a panic most Friday mornings when the garbage truck rumbles down the street. However, Layne has a secret identity. Twice a year he straps on his super suit—a bicycle jersey—and sweeps executives and doctors into the biggest adventure of their lives.   It came from his biggest kick in the butt: cycling across America.  Now Layne’s guided teams (or gone alone) by bike through 49 countries, and this year he’ll finally publish his stories about them.  [Feb 12, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:18 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 03:04 - Layne Gneiting Intro 04:04 - Anything is Possible 06:48 - The Road Less Traveled 07:57 - Summer Break 08:42 - Morning Commute 09:42 -  Growth X Bazillion 10:56 - The Details 12:13 - Eight is Enough 15:02 - Wanderlust 16:33 - How to Broaden 19:55 - Go With the Flow 22:38 - Safety First 25:40 - Get With the Program 26:54 - It's About the Adventure 28:09 - Find Layne Gneiting online -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/wayofthehero/ -          Website: wayofthehero.com 28:52 - Coming Up Next! 30:51 - Mentors -          Odds Bodkin 32:14 - Book Recommendations -          The Alchemist - Paulo Coelho -          The King of Attolia - Megan Whalen Turner 34:01 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
   Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.   In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are joined by Dr. Paul J. Zak. Dr. Zak is a University Professor at Claremont Graduate University and is in the top 0.3% of most cited scientists. Paul’s two decades of research extending the boundaries of behavioral neuroscience have taken him from the Pentagon to Fortune 50 boardrooms to the rainforest of Papua New Guinea. His most recent book is Immersion: The Science of the Extraordinary and the Source of Happiness. Besides his academic appointment, he is a four time tech entrepreneur. In 2017 he founded Immersion Neuroscience, a software platform that allows anyone to measure what the brain loves in real-time that is used to improve outcomes in entertainment, education, advertising, and emotional health. He is a regular TED speaker and has appeared on Good Morning America, Dr. Phil, Fox & Friends, ABC Evening News, and his work has been reported in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Time, The Economist, Scientific American, Fast Company, Forbes, and many others. [Feb 5, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 00:58 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                04:16 - The Topic of the Day: Trust                                                           04:31 - Dr. Paul Zak Intro 06:37 - I Might Be a Martian                                                        08:38 - The Great Motivator                                                        11:21 - Win-Win                                                               13:07 - Thrill of the Chase                                                             14:14 - Being Practical                                                    16:01 - Reverse-Engineering                                                       16:56 - Persuadable Humans                                                      19:23 - Measuring Emotions                                                        21:33 - Part of a Team                                                    25:46 - Dogs and Cats Living Together                                                     29:33 - Trust But Verify                                                 32:37 - The Answer: Slow Down!                                                               34:39 - Free Won't                                                           36:16 - It's Still On You                                                   37:34 - I Think, Therefore I Do                                                    40:12 - What About Love?                                                            43:25 - Time is Happiness                                                             45:48 - Find Dr. Zak Online -          LinkedIn: in/paul-zak-91123510 -          Website: getimmersion.com                                       46:26 - Wrap Up                                                               -          Immersion – Dr. Paul J. Zak 48:17 - Next Month: Irrational Fears                                                        48:25 - Outro                                     -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering.   Today Chris and Patrick are once again joined by Shelby Dacko. Shelby is a Human Risk Analyst with Social‐Engineer, LLC. Her specialties include vishing, OSINT work, educational material production, and public speaking. Notably, she has made over 20,000 vishing calls in her career. She holds a Certified Ethical Social Engineer (CESE) certification and has spoken for Fortune 500 companies.   Coming from a background that includes teaching English, and interpreting American Sign Language, Shelby has always had an interest in communication. That interest led her to the Foundational Application of Social Engineering (FASE) class, which she now co-teaches with Christopher Hadnagy.   On her days off, Shelby enjoys volunteering for the Innocent Lives Foundation and painting. [Jan 22, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:19 - Patrick Laverty Intro 00:49 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                       04:23 - Today's Topic: Telling Stories with Shelby (Part 2) 05:18 - Previously on SE, ETC. 06:43 - Night & Day 07:59 - Finding Our "In" 09:03 - You're Gonna Like the Way You Look 10:54 - We Don't Need No Stinking Badges 12:01 - Attack of the Clones 14:06 - Good Ole' Barb 18:25 - Leisurely Stroll 20:27 - Mission Accomplished! 24:31 - Left to Our Own Devices 29:45 - Being Flexible 31:07 - You Still Need to Plan 33:46 - Debrief BBQ 35:38 - Reposition Ring 40:17 - Wrap Up & Goodbye 42:10 - Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online -          Chris Hadnagy -          Twitter: @humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy -          Patrick Laverty -          Twitter: @plaverty9 -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9 -          Shelby Dacko -          Twitter: @scarylilhuman -          LinkedIn: ­­­linkedin.com/in/shelbydacko
Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Robert Wood. Mr. Wood is the Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). He leads enterprise cyber security, compliance, privacy, and counter intelligence functions at CMS and ensures the Agency complies with secure IT requirements while encouraging innovation. Mr. Wood has over 10 years of experience in information technology, information security and management consulting. Prior to CMS, Mr. Wood has built and managed several security programs in the technology sector. He was also formerly a Principal Consultant for Cigital where he advised enterprises about their software security programs. He also founded and led the red team assessment practice with Cigital, focused on holistic adversarial analysis, helping organizations identify and manage risks from alternative perspectives. Mr. Wood has a B.S. in Information Management & Technology from Syracuse University. [Jan 15, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:18 - Ryan Intro 01:03 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                04:28 - Robert Wood Intro 05:35 - A Small Career Jump 10:31 - The Constant Desire to Learn 12:58 - Unique Challenges 16:08 - Measure & Manage 20:01 - Making it Human 23:14 - Executive Power 26:35 - Pushing Up 29:18 - Part of a Team 32:45 - Mentors -          Jim Routh -          Jason Hills -          Amit Sethi 35:44 - Book Recommendations -          Think Again - Adam Grant -          Steal Like An Artist - Austin Kleon 38:29 - Find Robert Wood Online -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/holycyberbatman -          Website: softsideofcyber.com 39:32 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org TAGS:  
Today we are joined by Tony UcedaVélez. Tony UV is the co-creator of the Process for Attack Simulation & Threat Analysis and the CEO of VerSprite. Tony has over 25 years of IT/InfoSec work across a vast range of industries. He is also the OWASP leader for Atlanta, GA. [Jan 8, 2024]   00:00 - Intro 00:19 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 03:00     Tony UV Intro 03:34     Good in Chaos 05:28     VerSprite 06:18     Future Focus 09:38     It's Like a Flea Market 13:19     Groomed by Marketing 14:46     The Age of Misinformation 17:14     How to Defend 21:34     Human Validation 23:49     Implicit Trust 26:01     Zero Trust in Humans 29:33     Mentors -          Parents 32:25     Book Recommendations -          The Alchemist - Paulo Coelho -          The Greatest Salesman in the World - Og Mandino 34:08     Find Tony UV online -          X/Twitter: @t0nyuv -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tonyuv/ 34:53 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
REPLAY (Original Air Date: March 13, 2023) Today we are joined by Gena Cox, PhD. Gena is a corporate adviser and executive coach known as a straight-shooter who also brings warmth and generosity of spirit to her partnerships. She guides CEOs, leaders, and boards as they respond to evolving stakeholder expectations and transformation driven by societal change and organic and M&A growth. Her differentiator is the nuanced insights and recommendations she brings from a lifetime of continuous multi-disciplinary learning, enabling her to offer clients uniquely invaluable insights. Her book, Leading Inclusion, is available wherever books are sold. The book catalyzes executive leaders to drive inclusion from the top of their organizations.  [March 13, 2023]   00:00 – Intro 00:20 – Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                02:43 - Gena Cox Intro 04:00 - What was the path to becoming a Leadership Advisor? 07:25 - Dealing With the Frustration 09:24 - The Immigrant Experience 11:27 - The Need for a Strategy 16:08 - Inclusion Tops Diversity 19:32 - Are You REDI? 20:52 - A Leadership Problem 24:33 - Chief Transformation Officer 27:21 - From the Top Down 30:33 - Don't Assume, Ask! 33:54 - Is there anybody listening? 38:05 - Find Gena Cox online -          Website: https://genacox.com -          LinkedIn: in/genacox -          Instagram: @genacoxphd -          Twitter: @genacox 38:54 - Book Recommendations -          Can We Talk? - Roberta Chinsky Matuson -          TED Talks - Chris Anderson -          Leading Inclusion - Gena Cox 42:00 - Who would you consider your greatest mentors? -          Maternal Grandmother -          Lawrence W. Hamilton 45:19 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. Today Chris and Patrick are joined by Shelby Dacko. Shelby is a Human Risk Analyst with Social‐Engineer, LLC. Her specialties include vishing, OSINT work, educational material production, and public speaking. Notably, she has made over 20,000 vishing calls in her career. She holds a Certified Ethical Social Engineer (CESE) certification and has spoken for Fortune 500 companies. Coming from a background that includes teaching English, and interpreting American Sign Language, Shelby has always had an interest in communication. That interest led her to the Foundational Application of Social Engineering (FASE) class, which she now co-teaches with Christopher Hadnagy. On her days off, Shelby enjoys volunteering for the Innocent Lives Foundation and painting. [Dec 26, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:17 - Patrick Laverty Intro 01:09 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                       03:56 - Shelby Dacko Intro 04:18 - Today's Topic: Telling Stories with Shelby 04:59 - Something In The Water 07:02 - OSINT in the Jungle 10:11 - Get Out of Jail Free Card 13:19 - Golden Ticket 16:20 - Busted! 19:30 - Droning On and On 23:21 - On-Site OSINT 24:11 - Over the River... 28:02 -...and Through the Woods 30:03 - Killroy Was Here 32:01 - Nobody Watching 34:23 - Teamwork 36:31 - Mind the Gap 38:46 - Game On! 40:29 - Got the Keys 44:13 - Full Circle 45:37 - Part 2??? 46:36 - Next Month 47:02 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online -          Chris Hadnagy -          Twitter: @humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy -          Patrick Laverty -          Twitter: @plaverty9 -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9 -          Shelby Dacko -          Twitter: @scarylilhuman -          LinkedIn: ­­­linkedin.com/in/shelbydacko
Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined once again by Marc Ashworth. Mr. Ashworth is the Senior Vice President and Chief Information Security Officer at First Bank, is a respected IT executive with over 30 years of experience in cyber and physical security, IT/security architecture, project management, author and a public speaker. He is a member of the Webster University Cyber Advisory board, Co-Founded the State of Cyber annual security conference, and a Lifetime member of FBI Citizens Academy. He is a former board officer for the St. Louis InfraGard Alliance. Possessing security certifications in CISSP, CISM, CRISC, Security+ and other certifications. Mr. Ashworth currently oversees First Bank’s information security, fraud, physical security, and the network services departments. [Dec 18, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:22 - Ryan Intro 00:53 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 04:16 - Marc Ashworth Intro 05:51 - Recap 08:26 - Speaking the Same Language 09:36 - The Threats Get Better 11:45 - Clash of the Robots 13:42 - AI for Bad 17:46 - AI for Good 19:32 - Decepticons 22:39 - Regulations: Money Talks 26:48 - The Perfect Storm 30:16 - Insider Threat Safety Tips 33:00 – Mentors -          Bala Nibhanupudi -          Shelley Seifert -          Tom Bakewell 35:17 - Book Recommendations 36:37 - Find Mark Ashworth Online -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/marcashworth/ 38:06 - Wrap Up & Outro -           www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Today we are joined by Nick Hutchison. Nick is the visionary force behind BookThinkers, a thriving 7-figure marketing agency bridging authors and readers. In just over 7 years, he has cultivated a platform reaching over 1,000,000 people monthly and hosts the top 2% global podcast, "BookThinkers: Life-Changing Books," featuring interviews with renowned authors like Grant Cardone and Lewis Howes. Nick's platform and services have empowered countless authors to reach millions of readers, driving substantial revenue growth. His services encompass video production, podcast booking, and social media brand building. With a mission to inspire readers to take action, Nick authored "Rise of the Reader," delving into mastering reading habits and applying newfound knowledge to unlock potential. [Dec 11, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:17 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 02:27 - Nick Hutchison Intro 04:45 - Becoming a Reader 06:51 - Time Management 07:35 - Choosing the Right Book 09:05 - Implementation Over Retention 11:54 - S.M.A.R.T. Reading 14:35 - Which One?!? 18:18 - Action! 20:49 - Rise of the Reader -          Rise of the Reader - Nick Hutchison 24:22 - More of the Same 25:34 - Building Parachutes 29:52 - Book Recommendations -          The Compound Effect - Darren Hardy -          The 4-Hour Workweek - Tim Ferriss 33:43 - Mentors -          Kevin Horsley -          Parents 37:08 - Find Nick Hutchison online -          Instagram: @bookthinkers -          Website: bookthinkers.com -          Website: nickhutch.com 37:57 - Feedback for Impact 39:42 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.   In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing music and the senses; how it can influence our mood, “seeing” sounds, and the various ways music can shape our health. [Dec 4, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 01:15 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 04:39 - The Topic of the Day: Music and the Senses 06:20 - Subjective Taste 07:17 - Listen and Chill 09:54 - Beyond Your Expectations 12:26 - A Euphoric Sensation 14:11 - The Negative Side 15:24 - The Deeper Connection 17:17 - Understanding with MTV 19:40 - Moving Adverts 20:58 - Music Matters 24:35 - Synesthesia: An Overview 27:27 - Genius, Damaged or Both? 30:35 - Thinking Differently 33:47 - Finding What Works 34:59 - Music-Induced Analgesia 40:24 - Soothing the Savage Beast 41:56 - The Power of the Mind 42:49 - Benefits Package 43:35 - When We Were Young 46:57 - The Need to Be Seen 49:14 - Wrap Up 50:43 - Next Month: Trauma Bonding 51:07 - Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online: -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a -          Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy   References: Bannister, S., & Eerola, T. (2023). Vigilance and social chills with music: Evidence for two types of musical chills. Psychology of Aesthetics, Creativity, and the Arts, 17(2), 242. Bragança, G. F. F., Fonseca, J. G. M., & Caramelli, P. (2015). Synesthesia and music perception. Dementia & neuropsychologia, 9, 16-23. Colver, M. C., & El-Alayli, A. (2016). Getting aesthetic chills from music: The connection between openness to experience and frisson. Psychology of Music, 44(3), 413-427. Dael, N., Smedt, T. D., & Paquier, P. F. (2012). Tasting music: A case of emotion-color synaesthesia. Neurocase, 18(2), 165-180. Hsieh C, Kong J, Kirsch I, Edwards RR, Jensen KB, Kaptchuk TJ, et al. Well-loved music robustly relieves pain: a randomized, controlled trial. PLoS ONE. (2014) 9:e107390. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0107390 Hubbard, E. M. (2007). Neurophysiology of synesthesia. Current psychiatry reports, 9(3), 193-199. Lombardi, R. (2011). The body, feelings, and the unheard music of the senses. Contemporary Psychoanalysis, 47(1), 3-24. Lunde, S. J., Vuust, P., Garza-Villarreal, E. A., Kirsch, I., Møller, A., & Vase, L. (2022). Music-induced analgesia in healthy participants is associated with expected pain levels but not opioid or dopamine-dependent mechanisms. Frontiers in Pain Research, 3, 734999. Powers, J. M., Ioachim, G., & Stroman, P. W. (2022). Music to my senses: Functional magnetic resonance imaging evidence of music analgesia across connectivity networks spanning the brain and brainstem. Frontiers in Pain Research, 3, 878258. Roy M, Peretz I, Rainville P. Emotional valence contributes to music-induced Analgesia. Pain. (2008) 134:140–7. doi: 10.1016/j.pain.2007.04.003 Smilek, D., Dixon, M. J., Cudahy, C., & Merikle, P. M. (2002). Synesthetic photisms influence visual perception. Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, 14(8), 1057-1068 Spector, F., & Maurer, D. (2013). Synesthesia: a new approach to understanding the development of perception. Wang Y, Wei J, Guan X, Zhang Y, Zhang Y, Zhang N, et al. Music intervention in pain relief of cardiovascular patients in cardiac procedures: a systematic review and meta-analysis. Pain Med. (2020) 21:3055–65. doi: 10.1093/pm/pnaa148 Zamm, A., & Schlaug, G. (2015). Auditory-motor mapping training as an intervention to facilitate speech output in non-verbal children with autism: A proof of concept study. PLoS ONE, 10(6), e0129725.
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Vincent Smith

This is so great. I started my infosec journey 4 months ago knowing nothing about hacking and honestly not even knowing as much about computers as I should for being 35. The last few months have been an amazing learning experience and I’m so excited to get my first job in the industry. It’s super cool to hear about the history and foundation for what turned into my OS Kali!!

May 13th
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Vincent Smith

I just started the podcast and haven’t looked at newer episodes but more detailed descriptions on the episode with links or at least the names of websites would be nice. I’m trying to find the speakers website on framework but as you would know expect a million things pop up. Even having the guests name would be very beneficial.

May 12th
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