The Swiss Road To Crypto

Running a Lightning Node: Cloud vs Self-Hosted HardwareIn this insightful conversation, we welcome back Massimo Musumeci from Denali. We delve into the nuances of running a lightning node in the cloud versus on self-hosted hardware. Massimo breaks down the advantages and disadvantages of each, elaborating on potential use cases, crucial aspects to consider, and applications that can run on a Lightning node. We also go in-depth about important software like Balance of Satoshi, LN Beats, and Lightning Terminal. Massimo also talks about the different node use cases, highlighting personal use for financial self souvreignty, routing and receiving payments for merchants. 00:06 Introduction to Lightning Node and its Features01:30 The Importance of Appropriate Hardware for Running a Lightning Node03:47 Advantages and Disadvantages of Running a Lightning Node in the Cloud03:57 Different Use Cases for Lightning Node07:48 Backup Strategies and Updates for Lightning Node13:49 Essential Software for Running a Lightning Node21:56 Applications of Lightning Node28:16 Experience at the Lugano Plan B Conference30:11 Conclusion and Ways to Show Supportbalance of satoshis (bos)https://github.com/alexbosworth/balanceofsatoshislnbitshttps://github.com/lnbits/lnbitsSatsmobihttps://satsmobi.comrebalance-lndhttps://github.com/C-Otto/rebalance-lndMASSIMO MUSUMECI DETAILSMY detailstwitter: https://twitter.com/massmux (@massmux)youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/@MassimoMusumeciWebsite:https://massmux.comSubstack newsletter/snippets/nowtoshttps://massmux.orggithubhttps://github.com/massmuxCloud providerHttps://voltage.cloudBreez sdkSupport the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

Join us as we journey into the intricate world of crypto compliance with our guest, Hannah Zacharias from 21 Analytics. Listen in as we navigate the challenges of the travel rule and the transmission of KYC information between virtual asset service providers. Hannah sheds light on the nuances of the travel rule, the goals behind it, and the unique challenges it presents. She also explains the specifics of travel regulations by country and the implications of transacting with self-hosted wallets. In the second half of the episode, we explore 21Analytics' innovative tools including their chatbot and paying products that provide comprehensive solutions to these challenges. Hannah also talks about the state of crypto adoption and trust in Brazilian banks. Lastly, we share how listeners can support our podcast, either by making one-off payments, streaming sats while they listen, contributing in fiat with a credit card, or using Apple Pay. Links21 anayltics.    https://www.21analytics.chChatbot.   https://www.21analytics.ch/ai/linkedin. https://www.linkedin.com/company/21analytics/linkedin Hannah Zacharias. https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-zacharias/Support the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

I used GPT4 to ask Satoshi Nakamoto all the questions you have ever wanted to ask, like why 21 mio, who inspired him, what will happen when all the coins will be mined and much more. Discover for yourself the answers I got from Chat GPT 4. Occasionally when I thought the answer was to obvious or superficiel, I asked the question again. At one point I ask if he had ever worked with Len Sassaman. Len Sassaman is a potential candidate to be Satoshi. He was a brillant cryptographer, who commited suicide only 2 months after satoshi sent a final communicationI’ve moved on to other things and probably won’t be around in the future.to cite a brilland article in Medium by Evan HatchLen Sassamandevoted his life to defending personal freedoms through cryptography, working as a developer on PGP encryption and open-source privacy technology, as well as an academic cryptographer researching P2P networks under blockchain inventor David Chaum.He was also a pillar of the hacker community: a friend and influence to so many of the important figures in the history of infosec and cryptocurrency.Furthermore we think, by the time stamps of some of Satoshis messages, that at one point he was in europe. At that time Len Sassaman was working in Belgium, with David Chaum. I have included a link to the article in the show notes.Enjoy, and remember it is just an AI answering you. You will judge for yourself the quality of the responses.Link to articlehttps://evanhatch.medium.com/len-sassaman-and-satoshi-e483c85c2b10Support the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

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Ever wondered what happens to old Bitcoin miners? Well, they're not gathering dust, I'll tell you that! We have Jim from" Decouvre Bitcoin" who will blow your mind with his new venture: the Atakai project. This creative initiative repurposes outdated Bitcoin miners into functioning space heaters!  A DIY project that not only piques your interest in Bitcoin mining but also provides you warmth on those chilly winter nights. He eloquently dissects the complex world of Bitcoin mining pools, the role of ASIC miners. Our conversation also takes a turn towards the volatile nature of Bitcoin prices and how this impacts the rewards gleaned from mining. We explore the link between Bitcoin mining and energy dependency. Jim shares his insights on the dynamics of changing mining pools, the hash rate required to join a mining pool, and the significant role China plays in the production of mining hardware. He even takes us down memory lane as he recalls his personal journey of stumbling upon Bitcoin in 2011 and its value evolution over the years. As we wrap things up, we delve into the various ways you, our dear listeners, can show your appreciation for this podcast by sending SATs over the Lightning Network or contributing in Fiat with a credit card or Apple Pay. Tune in for a riveting conversation that's bound to ignite your interest in Bitcoin mining!--------- EPISODE KEYWORDS ---------Bitcoin Mining, ASIC Miners, Mining Pools, Mining Rigs, Mining Hardware, Hash Rate, Energy Dependency, DIY Project, Space Heater, Bitcoin Price, Lightning Network, SATs, tutorialhttps://sovereignuniversity.org/tutorials/mining/16Support the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

In Europe, few people have revenue in bitcoin, aside from miners or people who run exchanges. Therefore few people use it as a means of payment. But this is evolving. Marc Guillard and the Princess hotel is an example. We will explore their history, who their clients are, if bitcoin really helps their business, how their clientele is evolving, what their tech stack looks like and more.Timestamps:02:25 The hotel, its history, types of clients10:00 Why business went up in a bear market 15:40 Tech stack, costs and advantages23:31 Taxes, bank relationships and paying people in bitcoin29:30 Portion of revenues that comes from bitcoin 31:44 Advice to other entrepreneurs who want to accept bitcoin40:17 How Marc discovered bitcoin44:24 Rapid fire questionsLinkswww.hotel-princess.dewww.twitter.com/princessplowww.youtube.com/bitcoin-hotelhttps://www.youtube.com/@BITCOIN-HOTELSupport the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

This case should disturb all people concerned about the over-reach of a justice system. Like the Tornado cash case, it only reinforces the need for the protection of individual freedom through anonymity. Tor Ekland and Michael Hassard describe the case of Swedish-citizen Roman Sterlingov accused of administering the crypto-mixer Bitcoin Fog and laundering $330 Million of criminal proceeds through it over the course of a decade. But there isn't a single piece of evidence that Roman ever operated Bitcoin Fog. He was merely an innocent user of the service securing his privacy interests. Nothing about this case adds up except the profit motives of the investigators and companies involved.Roman faces 50-years to life in prison based on speculative, uncorroborated, blockchain forensics conducted at desks thousands of miles away from Sweden.Hear Roman's lawyers dissect this Kafkaesque nightmare and explain why everyone in the crypto community should be concerned about this AmericanTimestamps:03:14 Who is Roman Sterlingov - back story08:20 MtGox, Chainanlysis - questionable data18:40 The targeting of Roman Sterlingov21:30 Cast of Characters35:52 Venue - Actions not committed in the USA42:45 Cost of defense, friction 44:20 Need for anonymitySupport the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

Eli Ndinga, head of research at 21 Shares, recently gave a talk on what is needed to onboard the next 1 billion people to crypto. We discuss :- the improvements that still need to be made to the tech stack to onboard more people- reasons for the accelerating use of crypto- decentralized file storing solutions used in Ukraine - volume of Tether compared to Visa and Mastercard- regulation in the USA - Binance, its importance and recent regulatory concerns- differences in analyzing blockchain projects vs fintech start-upsand much more.Links21 shares research. https://21shares.com/insightsEli Ndinga Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliezerndinga/Support the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

Julian Liniger CEO and co-founder of Relai. Relai is an app developed in Switzerland that allows you to buy bitcoin without entering your personal data. We discuss what Relai is, their genesis, their current growth, their client makeup and more. We also delve into what it's really like creating a crypto startup in Switzerland and dealing with traditional banks.Listen to the podcast hereTimestamps:01:35 What is Relai, who is it for?03:11 The genesis of Relai13:21 KYC-less, and Mica and regulation19:29 Input from Alexis Roussel, co-founder of Bity24:22 What it is like dealing with swiss banks as a crypto start-up29:20 Clients and client profiles31:46 Reasons for current growth41:01 Rapid fire questionsreferral linkHey! Buying bitcoin with Relai takes 1 minute and if you use my code REL161482 your fees will be reduced by 0.5%! 😎Download the app herehttps://relai.me/downloadSupport the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

We discuss the absorption of Credit Suisse by UBS, what it means for crypto in Switzerland and the banking sector in general. We also discuss the difference between crypto, DLT and trust, and how blockchain can add to transparency and help people audit companies. Finally we discuss continued attacks on the crypto industry in the USA and its implications for Switzerland.Timestamps:02:33 Credit Suisse absorption by UBS and its implications10:31 Crypto, DLT and trust16:40 Transparency, audits, stable coins and blockchains21:25 Silvergate, Signature bank, and attacks on Binance and CoinbaseLinkPodcast with Cathie Wood and Arthur Laffer https://ark-invest.com/podcasts/Support the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

We discuss Nostr, its 3 main components, relais, clients and key pairs. We discuss why Nostr is different than Twitter, and potential applications. I am joined by Alex Poltorak founder of Hodling SA, provider of self-custodial security solutions for large holders of bitcoin and Massimo Musumeci and physicist and security specialist at Denali.Listen to the podcast hereShareListen on fountain and stream satsContribute directly to the podcast hereTimestamps:03:54 What is Nostr, 3 components, clients, relais and key pairs 12:47 NIPs, what are they?13:55 NIP 5, NIP 57 and others20:55. Coinjoin with Nostr and other possible applications 25:41 Key management30:55. Why woud you want to use Nostr41:51. Rapid fire questionsLinksNipshttps://github.com/nostr-protocol/nipslist of some people on Twitter and their Nostr. public keyshttps://www.nostr.directorysome clientshttps://astral.ninjahttps://iris.to/for iphone onlyDamus- on the app storewallet extension for chrome based browsers for generating keyshttps://getalby.comNostr user namesAlex Poltorakuser name - polto@hodling.chnpub1p0lt0chc53c7f9k848uy8eajeq8m643tuf43rwfyhdxcz4ymlzqs4ajck7Massimo Musumeciuser name go@massmux.comnpub1sej07d37lnfk592wlh9uv2dy68jv2y0ez98p6dw7w0llx89hswesvs5fqmhis websitehttps://massmux.comThe Swiss Road To Cryptouser name - theswissroadtocryptonpub1a0qh6arnrcdzul45604vadphmfzqyv068ztftsta2yq4haheg7zq4u9e7atip me in sats attheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fmmassimo musumecci presentation of nostr in frenchSupport the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

 “The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.” We discuss Ordinals, the upcoming Shanghai upgrade of Ethereum, confusing actions from the SEC, stable coins and the moreListen to the podcast hereListen on fountain and stream satsContribute directly to the podcast hereTimestamps:02:10 Ordinals 19:25 Ethereum Supply and Shanghai upgrade21:47 Sec Finma and Regulation23:49 Paxos Liquity and stable coins32:59 Oasis, white hat counter hacksLinksordinals bitcoin manuelhttps://thebitcoinmanual.com/articles/bitcoin-ordinals/article by Olga Ukulova in Bitcoin magazinehttps://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/are-ordinals-really-good-for-bitcoinSupport the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

We discuss a recent Twitter thread by Alex Roussel regarding how many companies have incorporated with in-kind payments in crypto in Switzerland. We also discuss a recent swiss franc bond issued by the city of Lugano on the SDX (the swiss digital exchange) and more.Listen on fountain and stream satsTimestamps:01:11 How many companies incorporated with in kind payment in crypto and why?11:41 Lugano issues bond on a distributed ledger at SDXLinkstwitter threadAlexis Roussel @alexis_rousselIhttps://twitter.com/alexis_roussel/status/1612205667674214403Support the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

Alex Naray is a tax lawyer in Switzerland. He has developed an expertise in tax issues relating to crypto. We discuss how the Swiss tax authorities impose crypto, what to do if you have not declared your crypto assets in the past, when are you considered a professional trader and much more.Timestamps:01:07 How are crypto assets taxed in Switzerland06:15 What to do if you haven't declared your crypto assets in the past12:25 How do the authorities react when the evaluation varies a lot15:22 Trading, when are you considered a professional15:12 Loophole relating to France26:57 Why do people come to Switzerland30:20 How Alex discovered crypto33:33 Rapid fire questionsBecome a subscriber and support the podcasthttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newlinks https://www.naray.law/en/https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-naray/Support the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe

A recent ruling by Finma, the Swiss financial regulator unexpectedly sparked discontent in the Swiss crypto community, The ruling in the form of an ordinance related to how much crypto currency an entity is allowed to buy without having to go through a KYC procedure. KYC stands for know your customer. It is a procedure intended to identify the real owner of assets and the origin of the assets. The ruling was contested by a small group led by Alex Roussel. He will give us context and explain why he contested it. In general  Finma is well respected by the crypto community, but this event reveals how a small group can contest and shape legislation in Switzerland.Timestamps:02:07 The context, the ruling16:09 Reactions and letter to Finma25:58 Next steps28:37 Q & A with Alex Poltorak and Mauro CappieloIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and donate sats. 20 percent of the sats donated will be redistributed to the guest.Download the Fountain app and donate satsalternatively Download Breeze and donate satsSupport the Show.Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Payhttps://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/newIf you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app, show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallettheswissroadtocrypto@fountain.fm subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe?visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCryptoThis podcast is produced by Didier Borel and Mikhael Junod Copyright © *2020* *The Swiss Road to Crypto*, All rights reserved. Get full access to The Swiss Road to Crypto at www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/subscribe