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Author: Paul Austin

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The Third Wave Podcast explores the many minds of the emerging psychedelic renaissance. Through conversations with thought leaders across various disciplines, we explore how psychedelics, when used with intention and responsibility, catalyze transformation on both an individual and collective level.

Are you a newbie fresh off an incredible first psychedelic experience? An experienced psychonaut with decades of use? Or just an interested bystander, curious about the relevance of psychedelics to health and wellness?

Regardless of your why, our podcast gives you a unique look into how psychedelic substances change culture and society for the better.
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Stacey Wallin & Payton Nyquvest join Paul Austin to discuss their new project, Numinus, a global network of healing spaces that use a combination of psychedelic medicine and cutting-edge science.  Founded in 2018, Numinus offers a holistic blend of medicine-assisted therapy, psycho-spiritual support and integrative services as a path towards experiencing transformative health. Based in Vancouver, they plan to develop worldwide centers in the coming years.
Gerard Adams, widely known as the “Millenial Mentor”, joins host Paul Austin to discuss leadership and how plant medicine impacted Gerard's perspective on what matters most in business and in life.   In 2015, Gerard Adams sold Elite Daily for $50 million. Many things have changed since that defining day, including the beginning of his practice with plant medicine. Integrating the insights learned from 5-MeO-DMT and ayahuasca has helped Gerard to weave together new models of business and conscsiousness, creating inspiring roadmaps for young leaders across the globe.
James Beshara, an angel investor, founder, podcaster, and general startup-helper, joins host Paul Austin to discuss burnout as a founder and what tools James discovered beyond coffee to feel his best. Burnout has become increasingly common in the workplace. It is particularly insidious in the start-up world. In this week’s episode, we talked about James’s new book “Beyond Coffee: A Sustainable Guide to Nootropics, Adaptogens, and Mushrooms” and why doing more as a founder is not equivalent to living a life of meaning and purpose.
Dana Larsen, well-known cannabis rights activist, joins host Paul Austin to discuss his new microdosing mushroom dispensary in Vancouver, British Columbia. Dana has fought unjust cannabis laws for several years, opening one of Canada's first cannabis dispensaries in 2008. Applying the lessons learned from his path as a cannabis activist, Dana is now utilizing his valuable experience to destigmatize psychedelics. His goal is to normalize psilocybin mushrooms for healing and personal growth.  Podcast highlights: Dana's path of civil disobedience and why he chose to open some of the first cannabis dispensaries in Canada Why Dana is now using his experience in cannabis activism and applying it to psilocybin How Dana makes a living as an activist - and why he wants others to follow a similar path for cannabis and psychedelics
Douglas Rushkoff, best-selling author and one of the world's ten most influential intellectuals, joins host Paul Austin to discuss what it means to be human.  In a Western world beset by technological distraction and a never-ending thirst for more, what role do psychedelics play in cultivating mystery, awe, and reverence? Further, why is it so important to embrace these elements - mystery, awe, and reverence - as part of our human nature?  
Françoise Bourzat and Kristina Hunter, co-authors of "Consciousness Medicine," sit down with Paul Austin to discuss the importance of psychedelic guides, why courage is central to healing, and the value of earth wisdom that comes from working with plant medicines. If you're interested in the safe and ethical application of psychedelics - whether for healing, transformation, or general curiosity - then join us for a riveting conversation about the importance of guides during a psychedelic experience.
Psychedelic entrepreneurs Tiffany Liu, Tim Sae Koo, and Michael Costuros join Paul Austin in San Francisco for a conversation on the intersection of psychedelics and business. Can psychedelics help change our exploitative business mindsets, and produce more compassionate, fair practices? For show links go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-66-costuros-liu-koo/ Sign up to our microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
Psychedelic psychotherapists Ingmar Gorman and Elizabeth Nielson speak at our 3W Nodes event in NYC about preparing for and integrating a psychedelic experience. These experienced psychologists share the best techniques for getting the most out of a psychedelic trip. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/episode-65-ingmar-gorman-elizabeth-nielson/ Sign up to our microdosing course here: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
“If you think that the point of drug policy was to control minority groups, to exploit the resources of other countries; then it’s been an enormous success.” Academic lawyer Charlotte Walsh shares her experience working in drug policy, and explains why the UK is facing an uphill battle to change the stigma around psychoactive substances. Although police forces in the UK have some capacity to diverge from national policy and work to their own drug policy, this is nowhere near the power that US states can exercise in response to federal law. Charlotte explains the unique challenges that the UK faces before achieving legalization, including: a powerful right-wing tabloid media; a deep-rooted anti-cannabis stigma; and particularly unforgiving attitudes towards cognitive liberty. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-64-charlotte-walsh/ Sign up to our microdosing course here: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
Join us at our 3W Node event in New York, with our guest Dr. Will Siu, a psychiatrist who has been trained as a psychedelic therapist by MAPS. He talks about the problems with conventional therapy, and explains how psychedelic-assisted therapy could take up some of the slack. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-63-will-siu/ Sign up for our microdosing course! https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
David Bronner is the “Cosmic Engagement Officer” for the family business, Dr. Bronner’s Soap (yes, the big bottles you’ve seen for decades at pharmacies and health food stores alike). He’s a proud psychonaut who has helped his company’s annual revenue grow from $5 million to $125 million. Along the way he’s created a new standard for how corporations can improve the lives of their employees and partners while giving away huge sums of money to vital causes. David’s life’s work challenges us to reimagine ourselves as citizens of the planet, cultural participants, self-aware consumers, and individuals seeking wholeness. He warns about the "disaster of the Western colonialist mindset." On this week’s podcast, one of the most prolific donors and respected leaders in the psychedelic space joins Paul Austin for a fascinating discussion on psychedelics, business ethics, and sustainability. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-62-david-bronner/ Sign up to our microdosing course here: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
In this episode, veteran advocate Matthew Kahl talks about going from taking 20 prescription medications a day to letting them gather dust in his medicine cabinet—and how he carries that transformation into his work. After you listen to Matt’s story of recovery and growth propelled by cannabis and ayahuasca, you’ll understand why he’s dedicated his life to bringing these substances to a wider population. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-61-matthew-kahl/ To learn more about microdosing, join our course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/  
Elizabeth Bast, author and entheogenic coach, shares her well-rounded experience with the plant medicine iboga. She speaks about its potential for personal healing and psycho-spiritual growth, and also the issues surrounding its cultural history and evolving future. We also discuss the current state of the psychedelic movement, and examine how we can culturally integrate these medicines and use their teachings to guide us as we strive to make them available to as many people as possible. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-60-elizabeth-bast/ Learn more about microdosing here: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
Stefana Bosse, Head of Experience for the London Psychedelic Society, explains what psychedelic ceremony means to her, and why psychedelic societies are so important for the healing of people and culture. We hear about what made Stefana decide to work in psychedelics, and why the transformations that psychedelics induce can be so profound. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-59-stefana-bosse Sign up to our microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course
From fashion model to psychedelic guide – Kim Iglinsky has an unusual career path. Kim describes how her upbringing in an Israeli Kibbutz, followed by an unsatisfying career in modelling, led to her seeking love and belonging in psychedelic ritual. Ayahuasca played an important part in the transformation that helped her find meaning and fulfilment in life. She describes her practices of psychedelic integration, and how her microdosing regime keeps her depression at bay. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-58-kim-iglinsky/ Learn more about microdosing: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
Although Adam Strauss named his popular show “The Mushroom Cure,” his psychedelic knowledge doesn’t end at psilocybin mushrooms. In this episode, Adam shares with us the good and bad of his psychedelic experiences – from solipsistic nightmares to curative perspective shifts. We hear about Adam’s opinion on microdosing, and how exposing his vulnerabilities on stage is just what some people need. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-57-adam-strauss/ For more information about microdosing, sign up to our extensive course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/  
Anthropologist Sophia Rokhlin joins us on the podcast to discuss ayahuasca, sustainability, and the role of microdosing in capitalist society. Sophia shares her experiences with ayahuasca shamans, and describes the issues of sustainability – where should we draw the line when it comes to the commodification of ayahuasca? Sophia also gives her opinion on microdosing, and the dangers of it being used to further corporate ‘growth-at-all-costs’ goals. For show links, see here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-56-sophia-rokhlin/ Sign up to our microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
As one of the world’s top fitness coaches, Ben Greenfield has a lot of experience with self-optimization. So what does he have to say about psychedelics and psychedelic microdosing as tools for personal development? We discuss rites of passage, ego loss, and holistic health – and how spirituality can be an important complement to physical fitness.  Disclaimer:in this podcast, Ben briefly discusses stem cell therapies. These are unapproved and have often been associated with deadly scams. Please don’t take Ben’s experiments as medical advice. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-55-ben-greenfield/ Join our microdosing course to learn more! https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
Tao Lin, celebrated novelist and poet, describes the perception-altering effects of psychedelics and microdosing, and how they’ve influenced his outlook on life. Tao discusses the importance of listening to ancestral wisdom, and how plant medicines can be used with other complementary practices to improve our lives. We talk about the damages of modern life, and what a rural lifestyle could offer us. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-54-tao-lin/ Sign up to our extensive microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
Zoe Helene, psychedelic feminist and cultural activist, joins us to talk sacred plant medicines, cultural preservation, and the importance of diversity in psychedelic communities. Zoe shares how her experiences with ayahuasca have influenced her world view, especially around “plant spirit,” and the importance of preserving indigenous cultural traditions. We also discuss the far-reaching damages that have resulted from patriarchal oppression, and how the psychedelic renaissance is not immune. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-53-zoe-helene/ Join our world-leading microdosing community: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/
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Comments (9)

gregorior

Good podcast until the guest started shitting out her cliches on feminist victimhood.

Jul 6th
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Dan Osterman

Hey, great conversation. I'm really interested in holotropic breathwork. I'm reading Stan's book currently. Thanks for sharing more insight.

Feb 23rd
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Darude Sandstorm

I usually don’t comment negative statements, but the audio quality is awful. I’m having to end this episode at the 27 minute mark despite being interested in the interview. Disappointing.

Jan 6th
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Jessica Desmoineaux

Yes! the ones on top want to remain on top and we dont need any of it. its harming us as a species #thevenusproject

Aug 24th
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Melissa Paquette

One of my favorite talks. Twice now I've listened to this podcast and got just as much as the first time I heard it. Definetly feel coming back to this one is a great reminder on how to integrate the information received during my journeys.

Jul 14th
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Melissa Paquette

Great talk. Thank you. Hope to see you in November :)

Jul 6th
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Bruno Linus Lejdfelt

when a feminist start talking about there being no difference between men and women: I need to use the restroom, which one was it again? (right door: bla, left door: bla bla bla bla bla)

Jun 25th
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Capt. Steph

love this episode

Apr 23rd
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Capt. Steph

thank you!!!

Mar 7th
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