The Trish and Sarah Wrestling Podcast

Join devoted wrestling fans Trish and Sarah as they do a deep dive into the wide world of wrestling! They discuss ratings and ticket data (and then break it down), review and occasionally mock the IWC discourse, and enjoy the strange, funny, and fantastic sport that is professional wrestling!

Episode 48

Episode 48! Trish and Sarah start with WrestleMania in Saudi Arabia before pointing out some potential issues with WWE's shows on the new ESPN app and potential fissures in their relationship with NBC. (27:30) Then, the importance of the tv audience and why it may be behind WWE's more aggressive counter-programming of AEW (39:37) and a discussion of AEW's moving All Out to the afternoon (45:35). Next up a look at Forbidden Door and the build to All Out (57:00) and the Kenny Omega problem (1:06:30), Eddie Kingston's return (1:16:45) and if there's any actual excitement for Cope and Christian (1:22:30). They wrap things up with Andrade's release (1:25:20) and listener questions! (1:30:45)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

09-16
01:52:54

Episode 47

Episode 47! Trish and Sarah begin with a discussion of Brock Lesnar's reappearance in WWE, and what this and their media strategy says about TKO's workplace culture. Then two huge new deals for TKO- WWE's PLEs move to ESPN (29:40) and UFC heads to Paramount+ (44:37). How are these deals different for TKO than their previous ones? Next, could TNA potentially be sold and agree to a move to Wednesdays? Can they compete with AEW? Who are the potential winners and losers? (55:45) Then a look at Forbidden Door, (1:26:30) before some initial G1 Finals thoughts (1:41:20) and a quick chat about the Hurt Syndicate. (1:49:40) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

08-19
01:59:00

Episode 46

Episode 46- Trish & Sarah start with a brief but important disclaimer about the episode, before moving on to a discussion of Summer Slam Night 1 and how WWE's programs are affected by their need for "moments" (2:30). They take a look at the main event and the drawbacks of having so many older wrestlers at the top of the card (20:15), before discussing the rest of the show (33:52) as well as WWE's on-screen embrace of the Trump Administration (42:15), WWE's tributes to Hulk Hogan (46:26), and the impact of recent AEW to WWE free agents (53:25). Your hosts then move on to AEW, and how last week's Men's World Title match was different from previous TV defenses (1:04:35) and whether the lack of strong secondary programs is impacting the shows (1:09:25). They then move on to Forbidden Door (1:16:16) and when and how matches are announced in AEW (1:27:40) before discussing the high level of scrutiny on a three-week World Champion (1:39:15). Finally, they look at AEW's residency runs (1:51:25) and assess what the costs and benefits of this strategy are.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

08-05
02:11:40

Episode 45

Episode 45 and Trish and Sarah go All In! They start with an overview of the overall weekend, the atmosphere, the experiences, the visuals and the people that made it. Next, they head to the start of the show. (18:45) and the crowd. How loud was it, and when? How did the first three matches of the show affect the audience reaction? Then- was the length of the show helped by its daytime airing? (29:30) They talk about the perfect placement of the high stakes tag match and how the Tag Team title match and post-match were different from the rest of the show. Then they discuss the business of All In (35:30) before moving on to the triple main event, with a look at the presentation and structure which defined Mercedes vs Toni (55:40), Omega vs Okada (1:03:15) and Hangman vs Jon Moxley (1:14:35). Then, how is Hangman being presented post victory and what AEW needs to keep doing after their big show (1:43:40) before finally a quick discussion of Tony Khan's interview with Case Lowe. (1:54:50)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

07-22
02:14:28

Episode 44

Episode 44! Trish and Sarah are back to preview the busy fortnight ahead and answer your questions! First up, they begin with AEW All In, is this a night for babyface triumphs? What is the stipulation with the most potential? Then, WWE's counterprogramming strategy. (41:39) Has WWE thrown their full support behind Evolution 2? Next up is NJPW. (1:04:03) Goto is out of the G1 and Tanahashi is struggling physically. Does New Japan really need to risk the Ace for this one? Finally, Trish and Sarah answer your questions, in their first full Q&A. (1:14:30)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

07-08
02:05:24

Episode 43

Episode 43! And Trish and Sarah kick things off by breaking down the CM Punk Saudi Arabia Experience. The shoving! The apology! Punkanomics! The 1 star match! They cover it all. Plus, a look at how Cena vs Punk is a symptom of a larger problem in WWE. Next up, how a bad night for AEW in January changed the trajectory of 2025. (46:30) Then, Hangman in Arena Mexico. Is this a new level of confidence from him? (1:09:35) Finally, NJPW. Goto has lost the belt, and Trish loses her mind. (1:15:10) Does NJPW even have a plan?Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

07-01
01:40:09

Episode 42

Episode 42! Trish and Sarah start with AEW's build to All In, beginning with Mercedes Mone vs Toni Storm and then Omega vs Okada (7:40) before moving on to the main event angles for Moxley vs Hangman (16:15) and then a discussion of All In ticket sales. (29:00) How have the four hour shows gone? (39:15) What the hell is going on with the Hurt Syndicate? (46:30) Then they move on to WWE. CM Punk heads to Saudi (52:50) and WWE tries to appease a potential fan rebellion by re-signing R Truth. (1:03:35) With the Evolution PPV in just a few weeks, what's the current state of the WWE women's division? (1:15:10) Finally, your hosts take a look at NJPW and Dominion. (1:25:50) What will it take for them to move forward?Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

06-17
01:46:22

Episode 41

Episode 41! Trish and Sarah are back from their break and ready to process their emotions about Double or Nothing. They start with the Owen Final between Mercedes Moné and Jamie Hayter and what the summer may look like for the AEW Women's Division (12:45) before taking a look at Anarchy in the Arena and why it's a signature match for the promotion. (23:00) Plus- the curious case of Gabe Kidd in AEW. (33:35) Then! Hangman vs Will Ospreay- the build, the match, how this came about, and what happens next? (42:22) Next up is a quick look at AEW's decision to run summer residencies in Chicago and Philadelphia (1:38:30) before they finish with WWE moving WrestleMania and the flooding of their big event calendar, including the just announced Evolution PLE (1:42:00)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

05-27
02:02:39

Episode 40

Episode 40, and Trish and Sarah tackle WrestleMania 41: the build, the show itself, and the crowd. Have they strayed from what drove their recent growth? They also look at the conflict between Triple H and the Rock (25:00) and the Mania Week PR blitz. Does TKO's current business model give the Rock leverage? Then, WWE is buying AAA. (1:07:20) What does this mean for Mexican wrestling and what impact could it have on wrestling worldwide? Next they take a quick look at Stardom and current free agents (1:37:00) before closing with Naito's impending departure from NJPW. (1:42:05)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

04-29
02:10:02

Episode 39

Episode 39! Trish and Sarah take a look AEW's Dynasty PPV and another messy main event angle. Can the Death Riders be AEW's Bloodline? Then- there's been a lot of talk lately that the Death Riders are driving business for AEW. Are they? Trish takes a deep dive into the numbers to prove (or— spoiler alert—DISprove) the claim. (50:00) Finally—a quick look at NJPW and Goto's title run. (1:46:40)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

04-15
02:06:07

Episode 38

Episode 38! And Trish and Sarah take a ride on the Road to WrestleMania and what seems to have been a disappointing build to WWE's biggest show of the year. Are WWE doing anything differently than they were a year or so ago? Next- what will it take for US promotions to put women's wresting in big spots on the card? (32:32) Then listener questions take our hosts through a potpourri of AEW topics: a Dynasty Preview (46:45), Rated FTR (1:11:30), The Hurt Syndicate (1:19:15), wrestler departures and new arrivals (1:24:20) and the possibility of Collision moving nights (1:39:21). Last but not least, a look at the IWGP title match at Sakura Genesis (1:45:56).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

04-01
02:00:54

Episode 37

Episode 37! Trish and Sarah start things off with discussing what they loved about AEW's Revolution and how it did business wise (43:00) before talking about the Men's World Title match (51:15) and how disconnected that felt from the rest of a fantastic show. Then- WWE! (1:16:40) The politics of Cena's heel turn and what that says about who has power in WWE right now. Plus, TKO's embrace of Trump and the right wing and how this could affect their business- including UFC's upcoming media rights negotiations. (1:30:27)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

03-18
01:57:57

Episode 36

Episode 36, and Trish and Sarah start off with The Big Angle from WWE's Elimination Chamber and its impact on the Road to WrestleMania. Can WWE stay hot forever? Then they move on to a discussion of Ryan Nemeth's lawsuit against AEW, Tony Khan, and CM Punk. How does it differ from Nemeth's original HR complaint and media reports from 2023? (27:18) Then a follow up about last ep's BTE segment. What does parasocial mean, exactly? Are AEW wrestlers all beta males? Or are wrestling podcasters just weird? (49:04) Next up- an AEW Revolution preview and the ways AEW's focus changed between January and February. (1:05:30) Finally, mailbag! (1:39:18) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

03-04
02:01:32

Episode 35

Episode 35! Trish and Sarah start with a review of New Beginning in Osaka, and a big picture look at NJPW after their third big show of 2025. What is this Goto reign looking to achieve? Then they talk about AEW's Grand Slam show in Australia, (36:22) from the logistical issues to the in-ring, before a discussion on BTE (1:15:31) and how the ways AEW engages with fans has changed since 2019. They move on to the recent AEW releases (1:45:32) before finishing with updates on WWE and Vince McMahon's legal issues. (1:52:18) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

02-18
02:07:46

Episode 34

Episode 34 and Trish and Sarah begin with Janel Grant's amended complaint, the new questions raised by it as well as the ones that remain outstanding, and WWE's media strategy before and after the filing. They then turn to WWE's 2025 business (29:11) and their current strategy of flooding the market (39:50), making things far more difficult for their competition. The discussion moves on to how AEW is countering (52:18) as they look at the biggest angles in AEW right now. Finally, your hosts have a hot debate on the likely outcomes of a possible Hangman-MJF program (1:24:40). Could this be a life raft for AEW? Or a potential disaster? Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

02-04
02:00:22

Episode 33

Episode 33! And Trish and Sarah are ready to tackle last week's outburst of AEW Fan dissatisfaction- and their own. They start the show with a rundown of the current programs in AEW, how those programs were presented on Dynamite this week, and how both fans and wrestlers are frustrated with the current direction. Then- a look at retirement matches. Who do they really benefit? Is the juice worth the squeeze when it comes to wrestler send-offs? (53:40) They also look at WWE's new agreement with TNA and what's behind it (1:21:05) before turning to the possible role a revitalized NJPW could play in the wrestling world as they set up for what could be a promising 2025. (1:26:40) Trish and Sarah finish the show with the desire amongst some for quick data assessments in a world where numbers are becoming much more restricted (1:34:19). Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

01-21
01:58:20

Episode 32

Episode 32 and Trish and Sarah welcome in 2025 with a NJPW-flavored bang as Trish checks in from the Tokyo Dome with a live report! They start with a discussion of Wrestle Kingdom- the Good, the Bad, and the Shota. Then they move on to cover Wrestle Dynasty, (36:46) including a discussion on the incredible return match of Kenny Omega, Chris Charlton's less than incredible commentary, and Konosuke Takeshita's new NJPW contract. This leads to a talk on overexposure in AEW (1:32:07) and how the Death Riders angle is just not working. Then they finish with a few WWE updates! (1:54:00) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

01-07
02:11:35

The Trish and Sarah and Tunnel Talk Holiday Extravaganza

Trish and Sarah engage in the long tradition of crossover holiday specials as the hosts of Tunnel Talk drop in for an episode filled with some facts and a whole lot of feelings! The supergroup of hosts gives out end-of-year awards, answers trivia questions, and- in classic Tunnel Talk fashion- send some wrestlers on a few truly disastrous dates. We had an absolute blast and sent 2024 out in the best way! Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

12-24
01:52:34

Episode 31B - Interview with Andy of RevPro

Today, Trish is joined by Andy Quildan of Revolution Pro Wrestling, as they discuss the promotion's origins and the growth of its international relationships, including hosting NJPW Young Lions on excursion. They talk about what the promotion looks for when recruiting, how it views its developmental role in the wrestling ecosystem and the impacts that programs like WWE ID might have. They also discuss the challenges facing an independent wrestling promoter, and Rev Pro's response to Speaking Out. Finally, Andy provides some insight into this weekend's Uprising card and tells us what he is most proud of from the past 12 years since RevPro's inception Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

12-19
02:22:41

Episode 31

Episode 31! Trish and Sarah start out with NJPW's World Tag League Final and a discussion of the cards for Wrestle Kingdom and Wrestle Dynasty. How have the cards changed? What are the most exciting matches? Next they talk about how the backstage power struggle at WWE spilled out into the open this week- are we in for another messy Mania season? (20:38) Then updates on the Ring Boys lawsuit and the Janel Grant case (40:00) and a discussion of Ryan Nemeth's complaint against AEW- yes, they open the box. (45:21) This week was a wild one for AEW discourse- are things really THAT bad? (1:09:00) Finally, some listener questions (1:41:00) and an update to the GCW story from last episode (1:42:48) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-trish-and-sarah-wrestling-podcast/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

12-10
01:53:05

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