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Two Vague is 2 player cooperative conversation program about a topic and how that topic is or could be related to video games or game design.
The Two Vague recipe for an entertaining show:
Step 1: Research
Step 2: Presentation and Discussion
Step 3: Creative Exploration and Buffoonery
The Two Vague recipe for an entertaining show:
Step 1: Research
Step 2: Presentation and Discussion
Step 3: Creative Exploration and Buffoonery
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How’s it going, eh? Prepare yourself mentally and physically for Andrew and Ben to drop a lot of movie quotes this episode. You have been warned! After a little improvisational bit where they channel their inner Bob and Doug McKenzie, Andrew fills us in about his latest creative efforts and the recent suspension of his feud with Christopher Nolan, which he commemorated using a delivery of bark mulch to cover the former location of a rat-infested shed. Next, Ben talks about two very different games that he completed recently: Pragmata and Mixtape. When they FINALLY get into the word, they talk about the movie Strange Brew and how the story was inspired by a particular Shakespearean tragedy. To close the show, they reminisce about their former jobs at local and not-so-local coffee shops before Ben talks about playing the pumpkin spice latte-inspired game Strange Brew, developed by Electric Monk Media.
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00:00:19 - Thrown by the buddy, all the bowling alleys, 24 hrs of productivity, and funding news
00:02:59 - The PAX octagon, Elvis Costello, finishing the anthology, and a guy has a meat hand
00:06:48 - A suspended feud, a little slapdash, wrangling snakes, on a list, and The Odyssey
00:09:53 - Palindromes in film, Robert Patterson, and the Christopher Nolan Feud Memorial
00:12:52 - Helen of Troy, sleepy noise, poems, stop yelling, and Andrew’s late rat shed update
00:18:04 - Ben finished Pragmata, pregnancy trends, and how video game electricity works
00:25:32 - Mixtape thoughts, internet opinions, an uninteresting trailer, and coming of age
00:32:47 - The Artful Escape, to a lesser extent, masquerading as nostalgia, and an impression
00:36:48 - Andrew tops off, Ben bought an electric kettle, grits, and a beer book for Andrew
00:38:56 - False expectations, fractions of caffeination, Cheyenne cheers, and Google changes
00:41:52 - Straight to Merriam-Webster, take that robots, and fomenting or contriving coffee
00:43:37 - Possibly offensive to verbs, generationally appropriate songs, and the theater kids
00:47:16 - As if, vending machine coffee, Ngram theories, amazing tees, and Strange Brew
00:53:25 - Percent Canadian, Clif and Marty’s Talking Pondo, and Shakespearean connections
00:59:53 - Using all the drinking water in Utah, the Claude AI incident, and meat-body bound
01:03:16 - Enough with the steeping, brew bros, Rosencrantz & Guildenstern, and Mel Blanc
01:06:45 - The electric monk, a particular coffee place, and sometimes it’s just a mermaid
01:09:03 - Barista stories from Cuppuccinos, all the vaccines, the MacGuffin, and reasonable
01:15:08 - Andrew’s thoughts on the trailer, customer service, and pumpkin spice zombies
01:17:38 - Perpetuating your apathy, Andrew’s favorite game right now, and gamification
01:20:55 - Rolling dice in day-to-day life, the tea tannins, final quotes, and the joy of Biscoff
01:25:22 - More positive jazz numbers, Uncle John, and a baby CJ cuteness sign-off
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On Instagram: https://instagram.com/partlyrobot
On TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@partlyrobot
On Substack: https://partlyrobot.substack.com/
On Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/partlyrobot.com
On Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/partlyrobot
On Microcosm Publishing: https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/artist/andrew-coltrin
On Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/partlyrobot
And his TREE o’ LINKS: http://linktr.ee/partlyrobot
Check out Andrew’s latest book and supplemental card deck here…
The ADHD FAQ: Understand and Embrace Your Brain, from Diagnosis to Everyday Life - https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/books/62918
ADHD Coping Skills Deck - https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/decks/69501
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On Substack: https://twovaguepodcast.substack.com/
On Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/twovaguepodcast.com
For show appearance and other inquiries, contact us at: [email protected]
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…for all of your PRI and 2VP merch check out the Partly Robot Industries store at TEEPUBLIC!
https://www.teepublic.com/user/partly-robot-industries
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References, Links, and Tags
Check out friends of the pod, Talking Pondo… but specifically, the episode that Ben and Andrew appeared on where they talked about the movies Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead and Strange Brew
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2030901
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2030901/episodes/19420748-strange-brew-and-rosencrantz-guildenstern-are-dead-talking-shakespeare
For more information about Strange Brew, developed and published by Electric Monk Media…
https://www.strangebrewthegame.com/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3499670/Strange_Brew/
https://youtu.be/QeRAidGynCY?si=CTeBKB9anQd7EzSC
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Faith joins Ben this week to discuss the premise of the latest book she has been writing, which involves a pandemic-era social media scrolling phenomenon. The two Gen Xers talk about her origins in an assortment of social need-based therapy disciplines, her career development and research activities, and how she is working with Microcosm Publishing to help amplify neurodiverse voices and perspectives. They wrap up the episode with an exploration of the game Ultimate Grandma Simulator, a quick chat about how games have the potential to subtly teach in addition to providing entertainment, and a couple book recommendations.
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00:00:20 - Twelve-year-old boy humor, Faith’s introduction, promises made, and promises kept
00:04:34 - Back when we funded things, conversion, community services potpourri, and books
00:09:46 - Connecting with Andrew, lived experience, ragtag band, and focus of the new book
00:12:43 - Moral injury forms, betrayal, indigenous ancestral origin, and liberation psychology
00:17:49 - Supporting community as a coping strategy, and focusing on what you can change
00:21:04 - The Intimacy Doctor, reframing shadow work, and keeping San Antonio quietly cool
00:26:25 - Dictionary choices, airplane fears unlocked, the 90s were amazing, and ticket costs
00:33:09 - Echo and the Bunnymen, angry philosophers, and the nuclear war fear of the 1980s
00:40:43 - Finding hope, piles of books & cats, and does doom get better or worse with age?
00:45:06 - A fond memory of critical thinking, simulating grandmothers, and avoiding vacuums
00:48:34 - Therapist feedback, a joke in a joke, learning from games, and a book suggestion
00:52:44 - Fiction is lying, Ben remembers, there IS cussing, people know, and a BONUS bit
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For show appearance and other inquiries, contact us at: [email protected]
-AND-
…for all of your PRI and 2VP merch, check out the Partly Robot Industries store at TEEPUBLIC!
https://www.teepublic.com/user/partly-robot-industries
Follow Andrew / Partly Robot Industries on…
His website: https://partlyrobot.com/
On Instagram: https://instagram.com/partlyrobot
On TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@partlyrobot
On Substack: https://partlyrobot.substack.com/
On Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/partlyrobot.com
On Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/partlyrobot
On Microcosm Publishing: https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/artist/andrew-coltrin
On Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/partlyrobot
And his TREE o’ LINKS: http://linktr.ee/partlyrobot
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References, Links, and Tags
For more information about Faith Harper and her wonderful books (wherein she isn’t afraid to drop an f-bomb or twelve)…
https://www.faithgharper.com/
https://microcosmpublishing.com/
For more information about Ultimate Grandma Simulator, developed by Circo and PlumPointTwo and published by We Don't Have A Studio…
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3511870/Ultimate_Grandma_Simulator/
https://youtu.be/A8fKlNNy_vM?si=ewSwZAcf8ARopOG9
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Christian from Imaginary Game Studios joins Ben for a conversation involving a very important aspect of video game promoting, advertising, and audience connections. To start it all off with a proverbial BANG, Ben talks about a couple of games that he has been playing recently, Monday Syndrome and RACCOIN, and Christian professes his undying love for Japanese coin-pusher machines. Next, the fellows discuss the recently announced DLSS 5 technology, how the “message” was received by gamers and developers, and the resulting spin from Nvidia’s CEO Jensen Huang. FINALLY… they explore the topic word as it relates to pop culture, Christian’s chosen line of work, censorship, various forms of art, advertising in a global economy, inducing laughter, and the unique games of SUDA51 and Grasshopper Manufacture.
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00:00:20 - Various Gabbos, Schrödinger’s coming soon, early access, and NOT Constantinople
00:03:33 - Palpable excitement, props for an AI disclosure, and Ben didn’t enjoy his Mondays
00:06:41 - Perk and power tradeoff, Clippy’s replacement, game design love, and coin-pushing
00:11:39 - Better arcades in Japan, games for parents, falling pennies, and pushing marbles
00:17:02 - Cold hard cash, towers of coins, DLSS 5 technology, and the stuff of nightmares
00:22:23 - Addressing the wrong audience, an ill-advised CEO response, and a pair of TLDRs
00:30:37 - Excellent timing, Christian invents a definition, unknown origin, and spot reduction
00:35:02 - ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US, churning SIMS, and localization services
00:39:56 - The unspoken cost, censorship, dubs and subs, and anime and manga parallels
00:45:51 - Pixar localizations, Wuxia genre fails, missing tutorials, vigor, energy, spirits, and chi
00:50:59 - The biggest Dynasty Warriors fan, 1 vs.1000 soaps, and the California pizza chicken
00:54:05 - Eating your digits, a resurrection elixir, no movement, touching birds, and sucking
00:56:41 - Pondering purpose, art as a product, Ben’s job and the Street Fighter name swap
01:00:51 - Everyone’s favorite Darkstalkers character, Ben’s Dreamcast tip, and Scott Pilgrim
01:05:00 - The games of Goichi Suda, playing a patchwork quilt, and Shadows of the Damned
01:10:10 - Romeo is a Dead Man, growing bastards, and can game mechanics be localized?
01:14:22 - Ben always knew, the result of heating up water, and localizing in semaphore
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Follow Two Vague on…
Our website: https://www.twovaguepodcast.com
On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/two_vague_podcast
On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@twovaguepodcast
On Substack: https://twovaguepodcast.substack.com/
On Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/twovaguepodcast.com
For show appearance and other inquiries, contact us at: [email protected]
For all of your 2VP merch, check out the Partly Robot Industries store at TEEPUBLIC!
https://www.teepublic.com/user/partly-robot-industries
Follow Andrew / Partly Robot Industries on…
His website: https://partlyrobot.com/
On Instagram: https://instagram.com/partlyrobot
On TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@partlyrobot
On Substack: https://partlyrobot.substack.com/
On Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/partlyrobot.com
On Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/partlyrobot
On Microcosm Publishing: https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/artist/andrew-coltrin
On Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/partlyrobot
And his TREE o’ LINKS: http://linktr.ee/partlyrobot
Follow all the shenanigans of Imaginary Game Studios here…
On their website: https://www.imaginarygamestudios.com/
On their Discord: https://discord.gg/YyDD7ECtdJ
On their YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@caxtnova
Check out the Rogue Climber trailer here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZbTXcHa3is
Rogue Climber on Steam - https://store.steampowered.com/app/2673440/Rogue_Climber/
***
References, Links, and Tags
For more information about Monday Syndrome, developed by hyesmo and published by Brightika, Inc, and Blackburne Games Studio FZ LLC...
https://hyesmo.com/
https://brightika.com/
https://www.blackburnegames.com/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3305970/Monday_Syndrome/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfPOcZ0okdU
For more information about RACCOIN: Coin Pusher Roguelike, developed by Doraccoon and published by Playstack
https://www.playraccoin.com/
https://www.playstack.com/games/raccoin/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3eRZVM6o6k
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Erik from Imaginary Game Studios joins Ben this week for, to Norah's chagrin, a math-free conversation about curved paths. After discussing a little game design philosophy as it relates to the games Ben has been playing (Stellar Wander DX and the Pragmata Sketchbook Demo), chatting about Erik’s first viewing of the 1983 movie Brainstorm, and dispensing with the miscellaneous “what have we been up to” pleasantries, they move on to the definition accompanied by a brief homophone detour. In the video games segment, they apply the Kübler-Ross model for processing grief to Ben’s experiences with the multiplayer third-person extraction shooter developed and published by Embark Studios, ARC Raiders. To close out the program, Erik asks Ben to share the life lesson he learned from the 300+ hours he invested in playing the game.
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00:00:20 - Germ factories, the next project, cosmic horror gardening, and a dumb memory joke
00:05:45 - Getting older, an unorthodox method for attracting bats, and stale game mechanics
00:07:56 - Ship combat, pastry mining, lengthening, pushing buttons, and minimalist games
00:13:28 - Getting out of hand, Ben’s thoughts on the Pragmata demo, and production costs
00:17:57 - Crayon fingers, different big daddy, compact level design, and accidental purchase
00:22:01 - Douglas Trumbull’s divorce from major film directing, and renting a laserdisc player
00:28:39 - Tackling concepts in relatable ways, way too high, CQ, and not choosing favorites
00:32:16 - It’s a sled, a math-heavy definition, stocks, Canadian energy, and the homophone
00:40:04 - Watch-along videos, misunderstanding the premise, and lucrative retirement plans
00:44:25 - They prefer sandwiches, SURPRISING NO ONE, copyright law, and arc versus arch
00:48:46 - Erik’s excitement, Billy has depression, texts from Ben, and the Kübler-Ross model
00:52:27 - Denial, anger, 65 minutes versus 300 hours, Warframe, and exploring and collecting
00:56:27 - Erik gets Ben back on track, bargaining, industrial plumbers, and on to depression
00:59:34 - Acceptance, Buddhism, psychological healing, the Hairpin Bandit, and matching
01:03:04 - B.F. Skinner, public service message, back to bargaining, and session improvements
01:06:14 - ARC Raiders life lesson, Erik’s retort, a beefy Nicolas Coppola, and nothing positive
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Follow Two Vague on…
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On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@twovaguepodcast
On Substack: https://twovaguepodcast.substack.com/
On Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/twovaguepodcast.com
For show appearance and other inquiries, contact us at [email protected]
-AND-
…for all of your PRI and 2VP merch check out the Partly Robot Industries store at TEEPUBLIC!
https://www.teepublic.com/user/partly-robot-industries
Follow Andrew / Partly Robot Industries on…
His website: https://partlyrobot.com/
On Instagram: https://instagram.com/partlyrobot
On TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@partlyrobot
On Substack: https://partlyrobot.substack.com/
On Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/partlyrobot.com
On Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/partlyrobot
On Microcosm Publishing: https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/artist/andrew-coltrin
On Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/partlyrobot
And his TREE o’ LINKS: http://linktr.ee/partlyrobot
Please consider helping Andrew out with a pledge for or a purchase of Nerd Emergencies ...And Other Misunderstandings: A Comix Showcase of Neurodivergent Perspectives, his latest zine offering featuring the creative comic musings of dozens of neurodivergent artists and allies: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/partlyrobot/nerd-emergencies
***
References, Links, and Tags
Follow ALL the shenanigans of Imaginary Game Studios…
On their website: https://www.imaginarygamestudios.com/
On their Discord: https://discord.gg/YyDD7ECtdJ
On their YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@caxtnova
Check out the Rogue Climber trailer here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZbTXcHa3is
Rogue Climber on Steam - https://store.steampowered.com/app/2673440/Rogue_Climber/
For more information on Stellar Wanderer DX (developed by Dream Builder Studios and published by Leoful)...
https://stellarwanderer.com/index.html
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1401630/Stellar_Wanderer_DX/
#Podbean #DIYPodcast #ApplePodcast #VideoGames #Trivia #Comedy #Talkshow #2VP #TwoVaguePodcast #PodernFamily #InterviewShow #GamersofThreads #Gamer #PartlyRobot #PartlyRobotIndustries #TeePublic #MicrocosmPublishing #NerdEmergencie #RogueClimber #ImaginaryGameStudios #StellerWandererDX #DreamBuilderStudios #Leoful #Pragmata #Capcom #ARCRaiders #EmbarkStudios
Jamie Stormbreaker from One More Game joins Ben this week to discuss game design philosophy and the amazingly zany and fun game SWAPMEAT—a third-person shooter featuring a unique part-switching mechanic. Jamie and his team are very excited to share their full “out of early access” version of the cooperative-focused roguelite with the world on June 17th, so there is a LOT of juicy conversational MEAT to consume. As a perfectly marbled audio morsel, no additional gravy is required or encouraged.
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00:00:58 - Lawyer input, industry to independent, Saros is a seven, THAC0, and for all ten of us
00:07:00 - Swapping origins, Steam verification, meat quote despair, and the Pounding Fathers
00:15:19 - Beyond early access, listening to and engaging the community, and planet renaming
00:17:51 - In-office consoles, Alpha-driven development, and building games in public view
00:24:55 - Expectation reset, thoughts on sequels, RTS games, and playing with vs. versus
00:32:00 - Multiplayer roguelite challenges, talking to players early, and don’t roast Jamie
00:35:42 - Ben’s thought path, revisiting games as a dev, and balancing difficulty with empathy
00:40:51 - How loot is distributed in SWAPMEAT to minimize competition, and playful banter
00:43:34 - Solo play, early access perks, the definition of independent, and institutional support
00:48:30 - Fresh ideas, end-to-end enjoyment, Indies are the innovators, and taking risks
00:51:15 - AI concerns, no joy in average, automation, art is made by humans, and breaking art
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Follow Two Vague on…
Our website: https://www.twovaguepodcast.com
On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/two_vague_podcast
On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@twovaguepodcast
On Substack: https://twovaguepodcast.substack.com/
On Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/twovaguepodcast.com
For show appearances and other inquiries, contact us at [email protected]
-AND-
…for all of your PRI and 2VP merch, check out the Partly Robot Industries store at TEEPUBLIC!
https://www.teepublic.com/user/partly-robot-industries
Follow Andrew / Partly Robot Industries on…
His website: https://partlyrobot.com/
On Instagram: https://instagram.com/partlyrobot
On TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@partlyrobot
On Substack: https://partlyrobot.substack.com/
On Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/partlyrobot.com
On Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/partlyrobot
On Microcosm Publishing: https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/artist/andrew-coltrin
On Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/partlyrobot
And his TREE o’ LINKS: http://linktr.ee/partlyrobot
Please consider helping Andrew out with a pledge for Nerd Emergencies
...And Other Misunderstandings: A Comix Showcase of Neurodivergent Perspectives, his latest zine offering featuring the creative comic musings of dozens of neurodivergent artists and allies: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/partlyrobot/nerd-emergencies
***
References, Links, and Tags
For more information on SWAPMEAT and One More Game shenanigans…
https://www.playswapmeat.com/
https://www.onemoregame.com/games/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2790700/SWAPMEAT/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCKk5i2zueI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tGNHwQQljc
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