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With THE UNSTUCK CHURCH PODCAST, we invite you into the real-time conversations our team is having about church leadership every week.

Hosted by Tony Morgan, this podcast explores common challenges in ministry and practical steps for tackling them. It’s like getting to be a fly on the wall of our staff meetings.

Tune in weekly for:

* Insights, observations and trends for church leaders from Tony Morgan.
* Benchmarks in church growth and health from The Unstuck Group’s work serving hundreds churches across North America each year.
* Practical advice to help you lead your church towards sustained health.

We think that after listening to The Unstuck Church Podcast, you’ll want to start these discussions with your own team at your next staff meeting.

Add your thoughts to the conversation on social media using #unstuckchurch.
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“My responsibility as a pastor isn't to convince you that my view on things is correct. My responsibility is to disciple you to be a better follower of Jesus.” In this episode, Tony sits down with Andy Stanley to discuss how pastors can navigate controversial topics regarding politics—especially as we enter an election season in the US.  > Registration closes TOMORROW for our 2024 Executive Pastor Cohort. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center This episode is brought to you by Planning Center, an all-in-one software to help you organize your ministries and care for your church. With an easy-to-use platform of products, you can bring people together with event signups, room and resource reservations, automatic volunteer scheduling, and much more. Start using for free now at planningcenter.com.   For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode345.   Join the Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
“I have sensed a need from God to be courageous in these moments and recognize that not everyone's going to be happy with what I'm saying.” In this episode, Rich Villodas, Pastor of New Life Fellowship (a large, multi-racial church in Queens, NY), offers wisdom for discipling our diverse churches on tough topics like sexuality. Learn more about our Executive Pastor Cohort. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center This episode is brought to you by Planning Center, an all-in-one software to help you organize your ministries and care for your church. With an easy-to-use platform of products, you can bring people together with event signups, room and resource reservations, automatic volunteer scheduling, and much more. Start using for free now at planningcenter.com.   For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode344.   Join the Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
We’re kicking off a special new series packed with practical wisdom from senior pastors to senior/teaching pastors to challenge and encourage them to equip their congregations to talk about tough topics in our world today. In this episode, Pastor Rick Atchley shares how The Hills Church developed a sermon series around mental health and provides encouragement for other pastors looking to address this topic. You can watch Pastor Rick’s series, Let’s Talk About Mental Health, here. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center This episode is brought to you by Planning Center, an all-in-one software to help you organize your ministries and care for your church. With an easy-to-use platform of products, you can bring people together with event signups, room and resource reservations, automatic volunteer scheduling, and much more. Start using for free now at planningcenter.com.   For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode343.   Join the Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
Closed campuses were 40% more likely to have launched as a result of a merger with another church. That’s why we believe you need a clear multisite strategy before you can make good decisions about merger opportunities. To wrap up our series on “Multisite Madness?,” Tony and Amy unpack the nine predictable outcomes of multisite through the lens of going multisite by a merger.  Learn more about our process for helping monosite churches go multisite for the very first time. Going Multisite: How to Launch Your First Campus & Avoid Common Pitfalls The unknowns around going multisite for the first time can create anxiety—after all, if you’ve never led through this before, you “don’t know what you don’t know.” At this free webinar, we’ll help you get clarity on the how, when, and who of going multisite for the first time. Register now. This Episode is Sponsored by Planning Center This episode is brought to you by Planning Center, an all-in-one software to help you organize your ministries and care for your church. With an easy-to-use platform of products, you can bring people together with event signups, room and resource reservations, automatic volunteer scheduling, and much more. Start using for free now at planningcenter.com.   For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode342.   Join the Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
What are the bare minimum leadership roles when you first launch a campus? How do you define central and campus roles? And what does a matrix structure really look like? In this episode, Tony and Amy unpack the final three “predictable outcomes” of multisite related to defining your multisite structure and roles. Learn more about our process for helping monosite churches go multisite for the very first time. Going Multisite: How to Launch Your First Campus & Avoid Common Pitfalls The unknowns around going multisite for the first time can create anxiety—after all, if you’ve never led through this before, you “don’t know what you don’t know.” At this free webinar, we’ll help you get clarity on the how, when, and who of going multisite for the first time. Register now. This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Are you considering adding a second or third campus to your growing church? Need help telling your church’s unique story across every location? PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, has you covered. Their team of creative storytellers, talented designers, and innovative architects are passionate about helping churches tell their stories through spatial, interactive, and strategic storytelling. To learn more about a large church can succeed launching its first campus in a smaller venue, read PlainJoe's article: "8 Questions to Ask Before Your Church Goes Multisite."  For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode341. Join the Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
What’s the key to launching at the right size, in the right space, and with the right launch team to build and sustain a new multisite campus? In this episode, Tony and Amy unpack these questions and explain three “predictable outcomes” of multisite related to preparing for launch.  Learn more about our process for helping monosite churches go multisite for the very first time. Going Multisite: How to Launch Your First Campus & Avoid Common Pitfalls The unknowns around going multisite for the first time can create anxiety—after all, if you’ve never led through this before, you “don’t know what you don’t know.” At this free webinar, we’ll help you get clarity on the how, when, and who of going multisite for the first time.  Register now. This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Are you considering adding a second or third campus to your growing church? Need help telling your church’s unique story across every location? PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, has you covered. Their team of creative storytellers, talented designers, and innovative architects are passionate about helping churches tell their stories through spatial, interactive, and strategic storytelling. To learn more about a large church can succeed launching its first campus in a smaller venue, read PlainJoe's article: "8 Questions to Ask Before Your Church Goes Multisite."  For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode340. Join the Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
All of the competing strategies and opinions around multisite can feel like madness: What really works? Is multisite right for every church? Is multisite right for ANY church? In this new series, Tony and Amy walk through nine “predictable outcomes” of multisite to help monosite churches make the critical decisions that lead to more predictable multisite success. Learn more about our process for helping monosite churches go multisite for the very first time. Going Multisite: How to Launch Your First Campus & Avoid Common Pitfalls The unknowns around going multisite for the first time can create anxiety—after all, if you’ve never led through this before, you “don’t know what you don’t know.” At this free webinar, We’ll help you get clarity on the how, when, and who of going multisite for the first time. Register now. This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Are you considering adding a second or third campus to your growing church? Need help telling your church’s unique story across every location? PlainJoe, a Storyland Studio, has you covered. Their team of creative storytellers, talented designers, and innovative architects are passionate about helping churches tell their stories through spatial, interactive, and strategic storytelling. To learn more about a large church can succeed launching its first campus in a smaller venue, read PlainJoe's article: "8 Questions to Ask Before Your Church Goes Multisite."  For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode339. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
Every quarter, The Unstuck Group releases The Unstuck Church Report to help church leaders monitor trends and benchmarks in key ministry areas.  In this episode, Tony and Amy discuss key findings from the Q1 2024 report and unpack what's distinctive about "Jesus-centric" churches. You can subscribe to receive the quarterly report for free, or, if you're subscribed to the podcast show notes, we'll send it out to you for free, as well. This Episode is Sponsored by Church Central Office Church Central Office focuses on your finances so you can focus on ministry. The only outsourced and remote church accounting department and CFO team that is founded by a former Executive Pastor, Church Central Office knows what it’s like to juggle the complexities of church budgeting, finance, and operations. With Church Central Office, you’ll receive dedicated finance management and reporting, advice on budgeting and forecasting, and trusted council for all your accounting needs. Learn more. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode338. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday, when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter/X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
The way we staff and structure our team is revealing of what we really prioritize as a ministry. In this episode, Tony and Amy walk through the journey of a new person and explain the staff structure and roles needed to be a church that reaches and connects new people well. Upcoming Events: In a free webinar on February 29, ministry voices from North Point, Sun Valley Community Church, and Victory Hill Church will walk through proven strategies and best practices for creating intentional weekend services that reach and connect with new people.  Register now. Learn more about our Multisite Leader Cohort.  This Episode is Sponsored by SecureGive Giving presents challenges for growing churches. But SecureGive’s 7-in-1 system makes donating easy and secure, provides in-depth analytics and management tools for your team, and integrates with your Church Management System. It’s the system that scales to fit the needs of growing churches. SecureGive is offering 6 months of free software to get your church started—visit SecureGive.com/unstuck to learn more. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode337. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X/Twitter. Or you can join in on Facebook.
Our role as leaders is to empower our church to do the work of ministry and to make the mission their own. In this episode, we’re joined by Jon and Dave Ferguson to discuss the B.L.E.S.S. model for mobilizing our congregations to reach our communities.  Free Webinar: Reaching & Connecting New People in 2024 In this free webinar, ministry voices from North Point, Sun Valley Community Church, and Victory Hill Church will walk through proven strategies and best practices for creating intentional weekend services that reach and connect with new people. Register now. This Episode is Sponsored by SecureGive Giving presents challenges for growing churches. But SecureGive’s 7-in-1 system makes donating easy and secure, provides in-depth analytics and management tools for your team, and integrates with your Church Management System. It’s the system that scales to fit the needs of growing churches. SecureGive is offering 6 months of free software to get your church started—visit SecureGive.com/unstuck to learn more. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode336. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X/Twitter. Or you can join in on Facebook.
We’re hearing from churches in this season that although lots of new people are walking through their doors each week, they’re having trouble connecting with them and helping them “become known.” In this episode, Tony and Amy are joined by Nate Siemon, Lead Pastor of Lifepointe Church, and Tyler Smith, co-founder of Text in Church, to explore some of their tried and true ideas for connecting new people and helping them take next steps in your church. Free Webinar: Reaching & Connecting New People in 2024 In this free webinar, ministry voices from North Point, Sun Valley Community Church, and Victory Hill Church will walk through proven strategies and best practices for creating intentional weekend services that reach and connect with new people. Register now. This Episode is Sponsored by SecureGive Giving presents challenges for growing churches. But SecureGive’s 7-in-1 system makes donating easy and secure, provides in-depth analytics and management tools for your team, and integrates with your Church Management System. It’s the system that scales to fit the needs of growing churches. SecureGive is offering 6 months of free software to get your church started—visit SecureGive.com/unstuck to learn more. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode335. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X/Twitter. Or you can join in on Facebook.
Churches are telling us that there's no shortage of new people walking through their doors each weekend—but they're struggling with how to connect and mobilize them into next steps. In the first episode of our new series, Tony and Amy explain how to use (and how not to use) strategic events to reach new people.  Free Webinar: Reaching & Connecting New People in 2024 In this free webinar, ministry voices from North Point, Sun Valley Community Church, and Victory Hill Church will walk through proven strategies and best practices for creating intentional weekend services that reach and connect with new people. Register now. This Episode is Sponsored by SecureGive Giving presents challenges for growing churches. But SecureGive’s 7-in-1 system makes donating easy and secure, provides in-depth analytics and management tools for your team, and integrates with your Church Management System. It’s the system that scales to fit the needs of growing churches. SecureGive is offering 6 months of free software to get your church started—visit SecureGive.com/unstuck to learn more. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode334. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on X/Twitter. Or you can join in on Facebook.
Pride can sometimes cause us to think that we won't make the same mistakes that others have made or that we can be the exception to the rule. We did this series because we hope that the church leaders who are listening will be willing to learn from the mistakes of others and not go down these paths.  In the final episode of our series, Tony and Amy discuss more miscellaneous stupid church tricks, like mistakes related to multisite, church websites, church buildings, and more.  This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Studios PlainJoe: A Storyland Studio partners with churches, nonprofits, faith-based organizations, and educational environments to create unforgettable strategic, digital, and spatial stories that lift the Spirit. To learn more about working with PlainJoe’s team of down-to-earth specialists, architects, strategists, artists, and problem solvers, visit plainjoestudios.com/getunstuck. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode333. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter/X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
Most churches start out on fire for their mission: to reach new people for Jesus. But as “new people” turn into “church people,” the voices on the inside of the church often become louder. In this episode, Tony and Amy discuss the ways churches get off mission and become insider-focused and offer advice and inspiration on how to reverse this trajectory. This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Studios PlainJoe: A Storyland Studio partners with churches, nonprofits, faith-based organizations, and educational environments to create unforgettable strategic, digital, and spatial stories that lift the Spirit. To learn more about working with PlainJoe’s team of down-to-earth specialists, architects, strategists, artists, and problem solvers, visit plainjoestudios.com/getunstuck. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode332. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter/X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
Often, well-intentioned churches add more programs believing it will lead to more growth. In reality, competing priorities ultimately lead to more complexity and a lack of alignment.  In this episode, Tony and Amy continue our series on Stupid Church Tricks—explaining what we can learn from them and how to avoid them. This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Studios PlainJoe: A Storyland Studio partners with churches, nonprofits, faith-based organizations, and educational environments to create unforgettable strategic, digital, and spatial stories that lift the Spirit. To learn more about working with PlainJoe’s team of down-to-earth specialists, architects, strategists, artists, and problem solvers, visit plainjoestudios.com/getunstuck. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode331. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter/X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
Churches don’t try to sabotage their ministries on purpose. But these "stupid church tricks" are things we see happening in real churches all the time that we can’t believe are still happening. In this episode, Tony and Amy unpack some of the stupid church tricks we've come across related to church leadership and staffing. This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Studios PlainJoe: A Storyland Studio partners with churches, nonprofits, faith-based organizations, and educational environments to create unforgettable strategic, digital, and spatial stories that lift the Spirit. To learn more about working with PlainJoe’s team of down-to-earth specialists, architects, strategists, artists, and problem solvers, visit plainjoestudios.com/getunstuck. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode330. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter/X. Or you can join in on Facebook.
As we served over 100 churches on-site in 2023, several commons themes rose to the surface. So, for our first episode of 2024, Tony sat down with the Unstuck team to recap what we’ve seen and learned this last year, as well as what we’re looking forward to in the new year.  This Episode is Sponsored by PlainJoe Studios PlainJoe: A Storyland Studio partners with churches, nonprofits, faith-based organizations, and educational environments to create unforgettable strategic, digital, and spatial stories that lift the Spirit. To learn more about working with PlainJoe’s team of down-to-earth specialists, architects, strategists, artists, and problem solvers, visit plainjoestudios.com/getunstuck. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode329. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter. Or you can join in on Facebook.
As 2023 comes to a close, we're revisiting some of the most popular episodes of The Unstuck Church Podcast this year. In this popular episode, Tony sits down with Pastor Chad Hunt for a practical conversation around how churches can create an intentional guest services experience. This Episode is Sponsored by Ministry Brands Introducing Ministry Brands' brand new flagship solution, Ministry Brands Amplify: a cutting-edge all-in-one Church Ops solution helping empower healthy churches, connect, engage, and grow their Ministry while boosting member engagement, allowing church staff and volunteers to focus on their calling. Empower your Ministry today with this all-in-one Giving, People, Streaming, App Builder, and Website solution. Learn more. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode328. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter. Or you can join in on Facebook.
As 2023 comes to a close, we're revisiting some of the most popular episodes of The Unstuck Church Podcast this year. In this popular episode, Tony and Amy discuss breaking the 2-3,000 attendance barrier by exploring the common challenges that hold large churches back from future growth with some practical ideas on how to approach them. This Episode is Sponsored by Ministry Brands Introducing Ministry Brands' brand new flagship solution, Ministry Brands Amplify: a cutting-edge all-in-one Church Ops solution helping empower healthy churches, connect, engage, and grow their Ministry while boosting member engagement, allowing church staff and volunteers to focus on their calling. Empower your Ministry today with this all-in-one Giving, People, Streaming, App Builder, and Website solution. Learn more. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode327. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter. Or you can join in on Facebook.  
As 2023 comes to a close, we're revisiting some of the most popular episodes of The Unstuck Church Podcast this year. How does a church know when it's ready to go multisite? In this popular episode, Tony and Amy discuss the key indicators that you are ready to expand through multisite—and one key indicator that you aren't. Free Webinar: 3 Shifts to Turn Momentum Into Strategic Growth We've helped hundreds of churches steward seasons of momentum growth into long-term sustained health. On December 14, Tony Morgan and Amy Anderson will help you avoid the common pitfalls of momentum growth and develop a plan for strategically moving forward into the long-term health God has for your church.  This Episode is Sponsored by Ministry Brands Introducing Ministry Brands' brand new flagship solution, Ministry Brands Amplify: a cutting-edge all-in-one Church Ops solution helping empower healthy churches, connect, engage, and grow their Ministry while boosting member engagement, allowing church staff and volunteers to focus on their calling. Empower your Ministry today with this all-in-one Giving, People, Streaming, App Builder, and Website solution. Learn more. For the full episode transcript, links mentioned during the show, and to download the Leader Conversation Guide, visit this episode's Show Notes at theunstuckgroup.com/episode326. Join the Live Conversation on Social Media If you're listening on Wednesday when the episode first releases, join the live conversation The Unstuck Group's team will be having on social media about this week's topic. We use hashtag #unstuckchurch on Twitter. Or you can join in on Facebook.
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Paul Loeffler

I love these ideas, and am very much a planner. Still, I would love for Tony and Co. to be more aware of small churches, which are thankful if the have a full time pastor and volunteer worship leader and children's minister. Some of their ideas are definitely for churches of 500 or more.

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