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A show made by vets, featuring absolutely no pets!
The Veterinary Project Podcast sheds no hair, just light, on the areas of life that we believe the veterinary community should have a pulse on.
From enjoying the good days in the clinic to handling the tough ones - from personal improvement to professional development - from managing your money to investing in your future, we provide a veterinarian's view on a life well-lived.
Join us every Wednesday for new episodes. Stethoscopes allowed, headphones preferred!
The Veterinary Project Podcast sheds no hair, just light, on the areas of life that we believe the veterinary community should have a pulse on.
From enjoying the good days in the clinic to handling the tough ones - from personal improvement to professional development - from managing your money to investing in your future, we provide a veterinarian's view on a life well-lived.
Join us every Wednesday for new episodes. Stethoscopes allowed, headphones preferred!
154 Episodes
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Today, we turn the final page on our current podcast journey, reflecting on the powerful connections, insights, and growth we've experienced over the past four years. 
As we close this chapter with mixed emotions, we celebrate the community we've built, the conversations that have changed us, and the knowledge we've shared across the globe. 
Though this podcast is concluding in its current form, our commitment to the veterinary profession and our personal paths of impact and investment remain unwavering. The lessons learned here will continue to influence the incredible work ahead. 
We extend our deepest gratitude to everyone who’s shared in this adventure, whether it be the guests, our listeners, or behind-the-scenes individuals who have made it all possible. Stay passionate, stay curious, and until we cross paths again, keep leading with compassion and drive. Goodbye, for now. 
Here are three key takeaways from our final episode, “The End”:
🌟 Growth and Change: Embracing new paths is vital for personal and professional evolution. Both hosts are redirecting their energy towards family priorities and fresh business ventures, demonstrating the power of refocusing life’s commitments.
💡 Value of Masterminds: The importance of finding your tribe was highlighted. Cultivating relationships with peers who champion your success can have a profound impact on clarity and growth in all aspects of life.
🤝 Authenticity in Content Creation: The journey of the podcast underscored the significance of staying true to one's values, producing content that resonates on a personal level rather than striving for external validation through monetization or sponsorship.
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Tune in to our latest gripping discussion with Dr. Jordan Woodsworth where the veil on veterinary mishaps is lifted. Hosts Dr. Mike Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht delve into the seldom-discussed reality of medical errors within veterinary practices.
In a transparent conversation, Dr. Woodsworth shares valuable insights, including a personal account that addresses the complexities of handling medical mistakes with grace and professionalism.
Key Takeaways:
- Communication is Crucial: Whether with clients or your team, clear and empathetic communication is vital. It's about balancing truth and transparency with the compassion needed to maintain trust and rapport.
- Learning from Errors: Acknowledging and documenting medical mistakes can turn a negative event into a learning opportunity. It lays the groundwork for supportive practices like "morbidity and mortality rounds" which can foster team unity and improve procedures.
- Support Systems Matter: Discussing medical errors can take a toll on mental health. Establishing a solid support system, both personally and within the clinic, is essential for dealing with the emotional repercussions of these events.
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, watch full episodes on YouTube, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
 **Gold Standard vs. A Spectrum of Care**: The discussion dives into the evolution of veterinary care standards, challenging the "one-size-fits-all" approach and exploring more individualized treatment plans, especially in scenarios with limited client funds.
In our latest episode, Dr. Jordan Woodsworth, our resident veterinary communications expert, returns to share invaluable insights from the frontlines. In this conversation, the trio dive into the art of client communication, the financial and emotional intricacies of animal care, and the importance of a solid support system for graduates. 
Dr. Woodsworth urges vets to respect the gold standard but also to embrace flexibility, ensuring treatments match client capabilities and patient needs. For those grappling with industry pressure, our discussion offers a beacon of clarity, compassion, and real-world advice. Discover how to navigate the gray areas of practice with confidence on this unmissable episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast.
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, watch full episodes on YouTube, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
In this dynamic episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast, hosts Mike Bugg and Jonathan Leicht dig into the intricacies of managing and growing a successful veterinary clinic. This candid discussion is an essential listen for both aspiring owners and veterans alike in the veterinary field looking to make real impact.
In this episode, we examine:
- The tough decisions essential for business building
- Maintaining harmony between business needs and team member well-being
- Mastery over business numbers for strategic growth
- The challenges and trade-offs encountered in scaling operations
- The power of community impact and its role in business 
- The importance of strong team dynamics, financial savvy, and technological adaptation in veterinary practices
For those eager to deepen their understanding or even have a transformative conversation about their career path, Jonathan’s offer to talk is not to be missed. Tune in to garner wisdom that could very well shape the future of your veterinary practice.
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, watch full episodes on YouTube, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
In this episode, we delve deep into a conversation around all things anxiety with Tim Collins. 
Tim opens up about the intertwining of personal well-being and professional success, the mental burdens that come with high performance, and his journey toward embracing simplicity and flexibility. You won’t want to miss this candid and vulnerable discussion!
In this episode, we discuss:
 Anxiety as an early warning system
 Embracing simplicity; trading possession for peace of mind
  Tactical tools to tackle acute anxiety
  Diving into aligned discomfort
Be sure to check out “The Anxiety Podcast” by Tim JP Collins and follow Tim here: @timjpcollins
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, watch full episodes on YouTube, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
In this episode we explore the high emotional stakes of our profession and the need for courageous conversations. Philip reminds us that fulfillment transcends career accomplishments, challenging us to reflect on our internal dialogues. He shares stories of personal awakening and the critical role of self-compassion. Join us in this episode as we confront the uncomfortable but necessary questions and push towards a future aligned with our true selves. The veterinary community needs more of these discussions!
In this episode you’ll be challenged with such questions as:
 What is the REAL cost of not changing?
 What is your “back pocket” idea?
  Is your greatest work yet to come?
  What stories are you telling yourself?
Check out Philip’s resources at www.philipmckernan.com or on social media @philip_mckernan.
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
Feeling the weight of public opinion? Dr. Marissa admits to imposter syndrome yet stands tall. Personal branding means sticking to your values, despite ‘the noise’.
In this episode, Dr. Marissa opens up about the challenges she's faced from dealing with criticism to managing a multifaceted career. Her insights into maintaining a work-life balance and how she juggles her roles at Fairlife and her personal brand will leave you inspired to find your own path.
Dr. Marissa Hake is a proud Michigan native, deeply rooted in her educational experiences at Michigan State University, where her journey in veterinary medicine and public health blossomed. Her spirit is evident as she spills her enthusiasm for her alma mater, where she completed her undergraduate, graduate, and veterinary degrees.
After wrapping up her studies in 2015, she traded in the familiar landscapes of Michigan for new horizons in Northwest Ohio, embracing the rich heritage of her husband's family as multi-generational farmers. 
Marissa's veterinary career began with a focus on the foundational stage of animal husbandry, specializing in calf care during her first five years in practice. Her dedication and expertise in this area have contributed to the wellbeing and growth of countless calves, weaving her own legacy into the fabric of agricultural life. 
Marissa is passionate about communicating with consumers about modern agriculture through her personal social media accounts:
@CalfVet_ on Instagram
@CalfVet on Facebook 
https://www.drhakecalfvet.com/
Her full-time job is working for Fairlife (the milk brand!) as the Director of Animal Welfare and Sustainable Farming. Additionally, she has a beef cow herd of British White Cattle.  She spends her days balancing being a farmer's wife, boy mom, Veterinarian, and Beef Producer! 
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
We're diving deep into the world of health and wellness with our esteemed guest, Ryan Kennedy. Ryan is a Functional Medicine Practitioner and Board-Certified Clinical Nutritionist as well as a passionate advocate for holistic health practices and a beacon of knowledge for those seeking a healthier, more vibrant life.
In this conversation, we dive into:
 Optimizing sleep
 Sensible sun exposure (and alternatives)
 The Sauna Effect
 Should you take the Cold Plunge?
  How breathwork transforms lives
  Why Identity is the key to long term behavior change
Check out Ryan’s resources at ryankennedyhealth.com, on Instagram @ryanckennedy, and his own podcast "The Ryan Kennedy Show."
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
In the finish to 2023, Dr. Mike Bugg and co-host Dr. Jonathan Leicht dive deep into the heart of veterinary entrepreneurship. They unwind the threads of downtime vs. vacation, pondering the merits of unstructured time, and how books like "The Road Less Stupid" and "The Psychology of Money" can reshape your business mindset at this time of new years’ renewal. 
Topics covered today include real estate, Bitcoin's upcoming halving, the nuances of current and future veterinary industry trends; where demands, regional needs, and customer value are ever-evolving. We reflect on our podcast milestones, guest diversity, and our gratitude to you, our listeners. So whether you're scaling your practice, balancing the books, or just taking a breath this Christmas, join us on this journey to harness challenges into triumphs in both life and business. Stay curious, stay informed, and stay tuned for what’s ahead. Here’s to growth, here’s to resilience, here’s to the future of veterinary entrepreneurship!
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
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www.theveterinaryproject.com 
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent by DM!
Described as one of the most sought-after, engaging, thought-provoking, and truly transformative international speakers and scholars in her field, Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe is a multi-award-winning education and psychology scholar, author, and resiliency expert. 
She specializes in resiliency, navigating stress and change, personal wellness in the workplace, and optimal performance - both personal and organizational. 
With over 18 years of university teaching and research experience, and as a multi-time TEDx Talk speaker, Dr. Robyne continues to create accessible and relatable materials while offering practical strategies that are realistic and sustainable. 
Dr. Robyne recently joined a group of highly esteemed authors from around the globe as a 2022 Nautilus Award recipient with her debut book 'Calm Within The Storm: A Pathway to Everyday Resiliency.' Dr. Robyne has recently released her second book, Stress Wisely: How To Be Well In An Unwell World in June 2023.
In our conversation with Dr. Hanley-Dafoe, we cover:
 Is the world actually unwell?
 Social media - comparison masked as connection, and understanding the dual truth contained within
 What does it mean to 'stress wisely'
 Our biology is built on a stress system
 The concept of an emotional home
 "Do you want comfort or solutions?" 
 Eye-to-eye vs. ear-to-ear communications
 Tips for communication in the digital world
  Understanding your personal threshold tolerance and how it shifts
  How to 'raise your thermostat' through embracing a new identity
  How to take steps in the right direction to relieve anxiety
  The 8 realms of wellness
  Your success leaves clues...pay attention to what worked in the past for you
Thank you to Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe for joining us once again on the show! 
If you'd like to connect with Robyne, the best place to go is her website:
www.drrobyne.ca
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening!
Dr. Emily Singler is a 2001 graduate of Penn State University and a 2005 graduate of University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine. She has navigated 4 pregnancies while working in veterinary clinical practice and has been a working mom throughout the majority of her tenure as a veterinarian.   
Her career in veterinary medicine has included experience in shelter medicine, private practice, and as a relief veterinarian.  She currently works as a veterinary writer, consultant, and mentor and enjoys writing for both pet owners and veterinary professionals. Her writing interests include public health, preventive medicine, the human-animal bond, and life as a working mom. 
She is the author of Pregnancy and Postpartum Considerations for the Veterinary Team, which is being published by CRC Press in November 2023.  She has spoken both virtually and in person on working in veterinary medicine through pregnancy and beyond, with an emphasis on navigating workplace hazards, workplace protections against discrimination, planning parental leave, and returning to work.  Currently, she is working toward becoming a RETAIN certified parental leave coach.
Emily is a mom of four kids, 2 dogs, and 1 cat.  She enjoys spending time with her husband and kids, and she loves horseback riding and all things llama and alpaca.  She is learning to embrace the chaos of having a big family and finds solace in connecting with others and eating chocolate.
**If you want to jump straight to the interview, skip ahead to 12:40!
After some always enjoyable banter time from Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht on everything from ChatGPT to video games, the conversation with Dr. Singler takes off covering:
 The genesis of Emily's book
 Why she decided to write a book
 Researching the risks during pregnancy while working in practice
 Discussion around leave to handle newborn care responsibilities
  Considerations for non-birthing parents
  Announcing a pregnancy in the workplace 
  How potential workplace discrimination arises
  Navigating the challenges on veterinary teams that arise with pregnancy, parental leave, and child care
  Emily's Impact Round
Thank you to Dr. Emily Singler for joining us on the show and sharing her message and insights on this important topic.
To order Dr. Singler's book, you can find it online here:
www.emilysinglervmd.com
https://www.amazon.com/Pregnancy-Postpartum-Considerations-Veterinary-Team/dp/1032524979
To connect with Dr. Singler, you can find her in the following places:
www.emilysinglervmd.com
@emilysinglervmd
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening!
Dr. Jenna Donaldson graduated from the Ontario Veterinary College in 2013 and has been working as an equine ambulatory veterinarian ever since. 
She has practiced in Alberta, New York and southern Ontario. Today, she is a partner at Rotenberg Veterinary, an equine mobile practice based in Schomberg, ON. 
Through her years working at a variety of different practices, Jenna has developed a passion for creating a sustainable work environment for equine veterinarians.
In 2022, she launched Trillium Equine Veterinary Services providing after-hours mobile emergency care to horses in southwestern Ontario. 
Trillium Equine's focus is to improve the quality of life of equine vets, allowing them to stay in practice longer than might have been possible with typical on-call requirements. 
In this wide-ranging conversation with Jenna we cover
 The journey from graduation to working as an associate to becoming a partner
 The partnership buy-in process
  Building a great team and why it matters when buying-in to a practice
  Difference between being an employee and an owner
  Starting up a "side-hustle" in Trillium Equine to solve a need in the marketplace
  Jenna's Impact Round!
Thank you to Jenna for joining us on the show! If you'd like to connect with Jenna, you can find her through Trillium Equine Veterinary Services online in the following places:
@trilliumequine
https://trilliumequine.ca/
https://www.facebook.com/trilliumequine
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening!
Elaine Froese has coached over 1000 families helping decrease their anxiety over the uncertainty of their future. She has authored 5 books, and written a column for 27 years in Grainews, and is seen in Progressive Dairy and Spud Smart magazine.
She’s a Wilson Loree Excellence in Farm Management award winner, who provides practical tools and roadmaps to find fairness in farm transition. 
Froese Family Farms near Boissevain in Southwestern Manitoba is her home base, where she farms with her husband, son, and daughter in law. At 66, her succession plan is building a team of 7 coaches to replicate her work. 
Faith Today magazine calls her “Canada’s Farm Whisperer”.
CBC radio calls her the “Dr. Phil for farmers. “
Penny, Ruby, and Read call her “Gramma.” 
Elaine understands the culture of agriculture and is gifted at helping folks see great outcomes and workable paths for their family farms. 
Her mission is to help families find harmony through understanding.
 Who is Elaine Froese
 The FAIR model for making transitions
 Workplace culture, values, and making decision
 Tools for discussing tough issues
 Making clear your expectations and getting your needs met
 How things change (financially) and what the career focus should be in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, or 60s
 All things start with the question, "what do you want?"
 Mic-drop moments that you'll want to note
  Elaine's Impact Round!
Thanks for joining us for this incredible episode with Elaine Froese!
If you'd like to connect with Elaine you can find her online in the following places:
www.farmfamilycoach.com
www.elainefroese.com
@farmfamilycoach across all the social channels
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening!
Long time no see VPP listeners!
Welcome back to the show - we're so excited to be back on air! 
And yes, we know, we said we'd be back in September. We've already done our 50 push-ups as punishment.
On with the show though as Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht reconnect, get reacquainted, share some personal and professional wins, and dive into the current state of the veterinary profession with its many challenges and many optimisms.
Topics covered include:
 Welcoming the new class of students to Vet Med
 When you realize that the Veterinary Project Podcast is helping people make big life decisions in joining the profession!
  Dr. Jonathan Leicht updates on Bridgeland, Mosaic, 60+ hour weeks, and quality time with the family
  Dr. Michael Bugg updates on the real estate world and a dream opportunity come true
  Price rediscovery in clinic valuations
  Why we're in an "operating environment" and what that means
  Changing Locum sentiment as a result of wage changes
  Utilization rates and the rising cost of services
  Veterinary professionals still need to focus on their mental health
Thanks for joining us for our relaunch and we'll see you again in two weeks for another episode!
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening!
We're in a season of transition here at the Veterinary Project, as Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg share the moving pieces in today's episode. 
With plenty of activity on the business front, along with family vacations planned for the summer, our team is shifting gears and buckling down for a summer of push combined with quality time with our families.
We wanted to share with you some of the things we've learned in making this transition, including:
 Business ventures in the vet med and real estate investing spaces
 Why we're taking a hiatus until September
 The four seasons of life and how it relates to current business ventures
 Jonny's removal of Instagram and how it positively impacted his life (and use of time)
  Summer plans, Summer fun, and what's coming next Fall
Wishing you and your loved ones an amazing summer - we look forward to more conversations, interviews, and great guests in Fall 2023!
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening!
A big welcome back to the show to Dr. Melanie Barham! A previous guest from 100+ episodes ago, no doubt a lot has changed as she now leads the team at Vets Stay Go Diversify, an organization committed to helping veterinary professionals and employers find a great fit for what they need.
Melanie is a veterinarian, entrepreneur, speaker, educator, and mum. She holds a DVM from the Ontario Veterinary College, and an MBA in Sustainable Commerce from the University of Guelph, and a Project Management Professional designation.
Melanie has held roles in many fields of vet med including sport horse medicine, consulting, laboratory, surveillance, not-for-profit/ NGO, and charity sectors.  She founded the DVM Project, the North American branch of VSGD, and formally joined the VSGD team in September 2022.  Melanie’s MBA research focused on veterinary career paths.
Topics covered in our episode with Melanie include:
 From the DVM Project to CEO of Vets Stay Go Diversify
 How to craft a great story
 The power of story for employers seeking great candidates
 Developing your personal story as an employee seeking a great place to work
 Why employers should ask their current employees questions why they choose / continue to work at your clinic
 What stories aren't you telling?
 What does the data say about our industry (employee and employer satisfaction)
 How to renew your interest in the veterinary industry if you're feeling bored or disenchanted
  Why do most people undersell themselves and what can we do about it?
  The relativity of extraordinary and normal
  Why storytelling is more "sticky"
  Tips for crafting your story to increase connection and bridge the gap
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melaniebarhamdvm/
Email: mel@vsgd.co
Website: https://vsgd.co/
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening and we'll catch you again in 2 weeks for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!
Welcome to Mike & Jonny's "Relationship Roundtable"!
In this episode, Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht are talking about relationships...and no, they did not become relationship coaches!
Personally and professionally relationships are key to success in life.
Amidst current struggles in both areas, Mike and Jonny decided to bring the subject some light to share what's working, what's not, and how they're working to get better. Through hearing their challenges we hope you'll find something helpful for you.
Topics covered include:
 Relationships are everything!
 Being responsible to the relationships in your personal and professional life
  The struggles of keeping relationships in good standing
  Time vs. attention
  What's working for us
  Being genuinely curious about others
Got some relationship tips for us? Send them directly - we'd love to hear from you!
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or give us a follow. 
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Thank you for listening and we'll catch you again in 2 weeks for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!
Yang Shi, Founder and CEO, and Cecilia Baer, Director of Sales at VetSnap join us for a conversation unlike anything we've had on the Veterinary Project Podcast...
Being compliant with the controlled drugs and substances we use in veterinary medicine is incredibly important. It's also something that many clinics find time consuming, and employees find draining.
That's where VetSnap comes into play - by simplifying the tracking process and making compliance easy.
Prior to VetSnap, Yang headed up technology at National Veterinary Associates. Before that he worked in aerospace, consumer electronics product management, and management consulting. He lives in Northern California with his wife and pup, Penny.
Cecilia has worked in the veterinary industry as a technician for 13 years, then in sales for the last 9 years. She lives in Kentucky with her husband, 3 two-legged kids, and 3 four-legged kids!
Topics covered in this eye-opening conversation include:
 Yang and Cecilia's journey to today
 Why compliance in tracking controlled drugs and substances matters
  Just how much time and money do poor tracking practices cost?
  Getting clinic staff with little time to adopt new technologies
  Having faith in the entrepreneurial journey
  Yang and Cecilia's Impact Round!
Thank you to Yang and Cecilia for joining us on the show, sharing their stories, and illuminating us on the benefits of VetSnap. 
If you'd like to learn more about VetSnap, check out their website or find them on Facebook!
https://go.vetsnap.com/
https://www.facebook.com/VetSnap
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening and we'll catch you again in 2 weeks for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!
Jillian Carr is the driving force behind Steady Gait Planning Inc., a financial planning practice offering people in the veterinary community a place to feel educated and empowered by their financial journey. 
Jillian has spent the last 16 years in the Financial Services industry, 8 of those years were working with leading financial services companies and the last 8 building Steady Gait Planning.  
Building a practice in a male dominated, antiquated world has been challenging. Jillian learned to truly follow her authentic self and ideas.  Jillian is no stranger to diversity in life and finances – watching her parents divorce at the age of 19, navigating a mother with mental illness and 15 years later seeing her dad, her career and life advisor, pass away due to complications from a traumatic brain injury all while trying to build her business during the height of the pandemic. Jillian is a designated financial advisor, an active member on the board of the advisor association, and an ally and mental health advocate in the veterinarian community.
Topics covered in our wide-ranging conversation with Jillian include:
 Getting to the root of people's financial fears
 Common money stories veterinarians have
  Why people are scared to have conversations about money, especially with contract negotiations
  Why we're afraid to talk about the money positives
  Shifting your financial plan as your career progresses
  Tactics for better money conversations
  100% responsibility motto
  Getting actively involved in your finances
  Jillian's Impact Round!
Thank you to Jillian for joining us for a courageous money conversation. 
jillian@steadygaitplanning.com
IG: @steadygaitplanninginc
Budgeting tool mentioned in the show:
https://itools-ioutils.fcac-acfc.gc.ca/BP-PB/budget-planner
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening and we'll catch you again in 2 weeks for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!
Back in 2021, we aired Episode 026 on understanding contracts. 
Well, a lot has changed in the industry over the past two years, so we've put together an update and included answers to the most common questions Dr. Jonathan Leicht has been getting at recent event presentations with new grads, practicing veterinarians, and employers. 
Topics covered and questions answered include:
 Expected salary ranges for new grads
 What increased salaries mean for production expectations from employers
 Signing bonuses: red flag or the norm?
 The power of informal references in your job search
  Both sides of retention bonuses
  Where we're at with non-competes
  What are "rolling contract terms"
  Extras in contracts to consider
  Allowing time for reviewing, due diligence, and negotiations
Want to learn more about Veterinary Employment Contracts? Check out our first episode, Episode 026, where we dive deeper into the subject:
Episode 026 - Understanding Contracts
Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can be sent to our Instagram, @theveterinaryproject.
Thank you for listening and we'll catch you again in 2 weeks for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!







