The Weight

Let’s be honest. There are some topics that are too heavy for a 20 minute sermon. There are issues that need conversation, not just explanation. That’s why we have created The Weight Podcast. Launching on March 5th, this is a podcast that creates a space for honestly discussing some of the heavy topics we face in our culture today. We believe that the church is called to engage in a way that honors the weightiness and importance that these topics have for how we live faithfully today. We’ll cover everything from art to mental health, social injustice, and the future of the church. If it’s something the culture talks about, we need to be talking about it, too.

"The Cure For Sickness" with JD Walt

Show Notes: J.D. Walt, former dean of the chapel at Asbury Seminary in Wilmore, KY, and founder of Seedbed, joins Chris and Eddie with a strong conversation about the gospel being a transformative force, rather than a self-improvement program. Walt dives into how sin is like cancer, and later discusses his newly released book on Romans. Resources: Learn more at Seedbed’s official website. Listen to J.D. Walt’s podcast here. Read J.D. Walt’s articles here. Purchase “Romans: From Sin Manageme...

11-13
50:42

"Our Primal 5" with Matt Campbell

Show Notes: Not only is Matt Campbell a licensed psychologist, he’s also a friend of Eddie and Chris (and a member of Chris’s church—which also used to be Eddie’s church—in Oxford, MS). Matt has worked in private practice since 2003, and is a member of the American Psychological Association, the Mississippi Psychological Association, and the National register of Health Service Psychologists. He earned his bachelor’s degree in psychology at Clemson University and his PhD in clinical psychology...

11-06
54:17

"Healthy Team Culture" with Chris & Eddie

Show Notes: “Everybody in the system affects everybody else in the system.” Chris McAlilly and Eddie Rester dive into a thoughtful discussion about what it means to have a healthy church culture and leadership. They discuss everything from trust to gratitude to humor, while discussing their own personal experiences and with growing a strong team dynamic. Resources: Learn more at the Weight’s website. Read about Chris McAlilly on OU’s official website. Learn more about Eddie Rester at Lovers...

10-30
49:28

"Protest At Midnight" with Peter Storey

Show Notes: In this powerful discussion around faith, justice, and courage, Chris and Eddie sit down with Peter Storey, former president of the Methodist Church of South Africa and the South African Council of Churches. With over forty years of ministry, including serving as a prison chaplain on Robben Island, Peter shares firsthand experiences of following Jesus in the midst of apartheid and his time alongside Desmond Tutu. Resources: Buy his books here and here. Learn more about his pas...

10-23
50:29

"Moral Humility" with Mark Chancey

Show Notes: Dr. Mark Chancey joins Eddie and Chris for an open and frank conversation about moral formation. Where should children learn about the Ten Commandments? Is it within families and the church or should it be put into public schools, as it has in Texas, Louisiana, and Arkansas? What are the implications of using religious symbols like the Ten Commandments to gain political influence? Mark Chancey is a Professor of Religious Studies at Southern Methodist University. He earned both h...

10-16
52:22

"The Nicene Creed" with Ted Campbell

Show Notes: Dr. Ted Campbell is a returning guest to The Weight, this time for an introduction into the Nicene Creed. 2025 marks the 1700th anniversary of the Council of Nicaea, which originally created the Nicene Creed, a statement of faith that declares God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and affirms the divinity and humanity of Jesus. The Nicene Creed is one of the most widely used Christian creeds, and unites Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and many Protestant denominations. Ted is a chur...

10-09
49:25

"Science, Philosophy, & Religion" with Sarah Coakley

Show Notes: Suffering and pain are part of life. We all struggle with finding meaning in our suffering and the suffering of others. We all need help finding hope and encouragement in dark times, and one place we can find that hope is in prayer. It’s through prayer that we stand alongside our suffering friends and neighbors to offer them our attention and empathy. Prayer connects each of us in ways that can transform the world. Dr. Sarah Coakley is an Anglican priest, systematic theologian, ...

10-02
53:53

"Extra Table" with Robert St. John

Show Notes: “I’m not necessarily a winner. Maybe I’m a loser that just never gave up.” No one would call Robert St. John a loser. A life-long Mississippian and a successful restaurateur and entrepreneur, Robert has turned his mistakes and failures into valuable learning experiences that push his desire to help others. In addition to being a restaurateur, Robert is also an author and philanthropist and an advocate for the state of Mississippi, a place where he sees potential and opportunity fo...

09-25
49:58

"Living A Sermon" with Austin Carty

Show Notes: Eddie and Chris are joined by previous guest Austin Carty for the first part of a double episode about his new book, Some of the Words Are Theirs: The Art of Writing and Living a Sermon. Preachers are human, and just like all of us, they are influenced by their past, their community, and their surroundings. Preaching is a form of self-discovery that not everyone experiences, but Austin encourages all of us to take some time to sit with our pasts and write it out--if only to allow ...

09-18
49:48

"Better Ways To Read the Bible" with Zach Lambert

Show Notes: Zach Lambert wants to give you a better way to interpret the Bible, so he wrote the book on it. In Better Ways to Read the Bible: Transforming a Weapon of Harm Into a Tool of Healing, Zach helps us deconstruct four common lenses for reading the Bible that lead to harm and then offers four new lenses that promote healing and wholeness. Zach is the Lead Pastor and founder of Restore Austin, a church in urban Austin, Texas. He is also the co-founder of the Post Evangelical Co...

09-11
49:08

"Shaping Future Leaders" with Javier Viera

Show Notes: Rev. Dr. Javier Viera is the President of Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary in Evanston, IL. A long-time friend of Eddie’s, Javier served in multiple roles in a congregational setting before becoming the Dean of Drew Theological School at Drew University. He earned his master of divinity from Duke Divinity School, a master of sacred theology from Yale Divinity School, and his doctor of education from Columbia University. Javier’s experience gives him a deep understanding ...

09-04
53:14

"Legacy of Leadership" with Bill McAlilly

Show Notes: This episode is a special conversation between a father and son, two pastors in different eras of their ministerial careers. Chris is joined by his father (but not by Eddie), retired Bishop Bill McAlilly, to talk about Bill’s faith journey, his growth as a pastoral leader, and how he created and equipped leaders in his many congregations. Bill is a retired bishop of the United Methodist Church. He served as bishop for 12 years, covering the Tennessee-Western Kentucky Confere...

08-28
55:46

"Faith, Science, & Suffering" with Philip Clayton

Show Notes: Can science and faith exist together? If God created the world and then created people in God’s own image, why do we experience suffering? How do we reconcile the hard facts of science with the miraculous story of God’s own faithfulness and actions in the world? These are difficult but not impossible topics to explore, and today’s guest offers us a way into those hard conversations. Dr. Philip Clayton is Professor Emeritus at Claremont School of Theology, as well as the former I...

08-21
51:08

"We Aren't Machines" with Warren Kinghorn

Show Notes: Humans are not machines, so why do we treat ourselves like we are? In this episode, Eddie and Chris are joined by Dr. Warren Kinghorn, a psychiatrist who focuses on a more holistic approach to mental health, and health in general. Warren looks beyond merely reducing or eliminating the symptoms, because we aren’t machines. We are beings who need nurture and care and love. He believes that being in community with one another and walking alongside each other in our struggles plays ...

08-14
52:24

"Wrestling With Scripture" with Amy-Jill Levine

Show Notes: Today’s guest, Dr. Amy-Jill Levine, has a challenge for all of us: to engage the Bible more deeply, and to do that in a way that faithful to the historical context in which the scriptures were written. Jews during the Second Temple period were aware of the societal context in which they lived, just as we are aware of ours today. But because we don’t experience that ancient context in today’s world, we lose the nuance of Jesus’ teachings. Putting Jesus back in his historical time a...

08-07
48:29

"The Entrepreneurial Church" with Mark DeYmaz

Show Notes: Mark DeYmaz is a pastor, author, and champion of the multi-ethnic church movement. He spent eighteen years as a youth pastor in Little Rock, Arkansas, before stepping away to plant the Mosaic Church of Central Arkansas in 2001 where he continues to serve as Directional Leader. Mark has a clear vision for what the Church should look like: bringing diverse people together to walk, work, and worship God, while investing in the local community. Church should reflect the diverse worl...

07-31
51:05

"Habitual Gratitude" with Neal Plantinga

Show Notes: Dr. Corneilus Plantinga has a few words to say about gratitude, and it may just change your life--physically, spiritually, and emotionally. A habit of gratitude can lower your blood pressure and help you sleep better. But the habit of gratitude also ties us together collectively, in community and in church. When there is genuine appreciation of an act of kindness or a loving word, the memory of that “thank you” is a cushion when disagreement tries to divide us. Gratitude for God...

07-24
47:49

"Called To The Kitchen" with Hunter Evans

Show Notes: If you’re not hungry at the start of this episode, you probably will be by the end. And you’ll probably want to run down to Jackson, Mississippi to eat at Elvie’s. Hunter Evans is the owner of Elvie’s that serves seasonal dishes and highlights ingredients from local farmers. For Hunter, owning a restaurant is first about hospitality. He focuses on making connections with his patrons, and is a champion of a city in Mississippi that often gets overlooked or looked down on. He als...

07-17
46:19

"Many Souths" with John T. Edge

Shownotes: John T. Edge joins Chris and Eddie for a conversation that takes them all over the South. John T. is a writer, commentator, the former director of the Southern Foodways Alliance, and host of the television show True South. He is the director of the Mississippi Lab at the University of Mississippi, and his latest passion project is the Greenfield Farm Writers Residency, which will offer space for writers of all kinds to step away from the real world and put their focus and attenti...

07-10
46:10

"Living Through The Seasons" with Annie F. Downs

*** SUMMER BEST OF *** As we take a few weeks off to prep for the rest of Season 6 of The Weight, enjoy some of our favorite past episodes! Show Notes: Welcome to Season 6 of The Weight Podcast! We’re kicking things off with someone who has a lot of fun while doing a lot of important work: Annie F. Downs. Annie is an author, speaker, podcaster, and preacher who uses humor and scripture to help people find their purpose and fulfillment in God’s love. Annie’s podcast, That Sounds Fun, has b...

07-03
49:36

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