The Winding Road

This podcast is for people like us. Our career has been what some would call 'non-linear.' When we look for a job, no one - especially recruiters - can put the pieces of our experience together. We want to change careers but aren't sure how. When we land a new role or change careers, that's just the beginning of next-leveling our career. If you're one of us, this podcast is for you. Join Host (and author) Travis L. Scott as he takes what he's learned from two decades of marketing and recruiting to change the way you approach your career and, in the process, change your life.

Jenny Blake: Getting More Free Time

Let's face it, for some of us, time is more valuable than money. We would take a pay cut to gain more time. But what if you're trying to pivot into a new field and you need to carve out time to learn? What if you've spun up a side project to help you make the pivot or increase your income?What if you took the leap and are now a solopreneur trying to do everything?Where is this time going to come from?Well, Jenny wrote an entire book on this topic: Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Busin...

10-05
33:41

Ep 40 - Fast-Tracking Your Marketing Career with Chris Roche

Chris Roche has gone from an intern to CRO to founding a successful business (Catalyst Consulting)- all in about 6 years.In this episode, he shares how he moved up the marketing career ladder so fast. He also shares insight into why he thinks starting his career in sales has made him a better marketer.Things Mentioned in the Show:Chris on LinkedInCatalyst ConsultingFollow Winding Road Careers: Website: https://www.windingroadcareers.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/windi...

09-28
46:25

Ep 39 - You Don't Have to Be an Instant Expert

When you're making a pivot, there can be pressure to feel like you have to keep up with everyone else on platforms like LinkedIn, Twitter, and TikTok. You don't. In this episode, I talk about things you can do to still be active on social media platforms, build an audience, and make a name for yourself without feeling like you need to be an expert in an area you just pivoted into. I share where you can go to learn, absorb, and become more confident- plus build new relationships.&nbs...

09-14
29:47

Ep 38 - The Career-Changing Power of Communities with Dayna Del Val

I met Dayna in Dorie Clark's Recognized Expert community and I invited her onto my podcast to talk about something else entirely, but the conversation to a fork in the road and we began to talk about the power of belonging to a community. We both are grateful to get to belong to the ones we do and it has been life (and career) changing for both of us. Follow Winding Road Careers: Website: https://www.windingroadcareers.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/windingroadcareers/ ...

04-12
34:01

Ep 37 - Becoming Forever Employable - Jeff Gothelf Interview

What does it mean to "become forever employable"? How do you achieve it?Jeff and I talk about this, which is also the topic of his book by the same name.We cover things like: How long does it take to become forever employable or a recognized expert in a fieldHow to build a personal brandHow to figure out what you should become an "expert" inShould you pivot...and moreIf you'd like to connect with Jeff, you can find him here, and on LinkedIn and TwitterYou can buy his book on Amazon.If yo...

12-07
28:31

Ep 36 - Your Biggest (and Cheapest) Career Competitive Advantage

In this episode, I'm dropping a knowledge bomb (I just wanted to say that, actually what I talk about isn't rocket science or a revelation) about one of the best - if not the best- things you can do to achieve a competitive advantage throughout your career.Some of the books I mention are:1:25 - This is Marketing by Seth Godin2:58 - So Good They Can't Ignore You by Cal Newport 4:45 - Linchpin by Seth Godin5:32 - Obviously Awesome by April Dunford6:11 - Steal Like an Artist by Austin Kleon...

11-09
13:13

Ep 35 - Carrie Corcoran Interview - Navigating a Non-Linear Career Path

Carrie and I had a great conversation loaded with takeaways for those just starting their careers as well as those who have been in it for a while.Some of the things we talked about were:Her decision to take an unpaid internship at age 40 and how that changed the trajectory of her careerReinventing yourself - sometimes multiple timesHow being curious and trying new things can change your life and careerWhen and why you need to "Marie Kondo" your current job and companyWhy you shouldn't let yo...

10-26
48:47

Episode 34 - What I Didn't Expect From My Career Pivot

A topic that is often discussed here on The Winding Road is career pivots. I've made several, each time it's been a little different. I thought this one was going to be the smoothest yet. I was wrong.Sometimes, life throws us a curveball and we have to be able to hit it. I'm still working through my recent career pivot from being an employee to starting a business, but a rough part is finally behind me.Episode Links:- Winding Road Careers: Listen to this and past podcasts, read my blog, and t...

10-21
14:48

Episode 33 - The Third Law of Physics

Ever since I first heard Zig Ziglar say, "You can get everything you want in life if you help other people get what they want," it's been on my mind. Over the past week, this 'theme' has popped up in different ways and it's finally time to be intentional about changing my behavior to align with this new value of mine. The Third Law of Physics is something I heard Oprah Winfrey mention as a driving mantra toward this very thing. Find out how it applies as well as the other 'signs' that showed ...

10-15
13:12

Episode 32 - The Trap of Seeking Perfection - The Story of Writing My Book (Audioblog)

This is the audio version of my blog post The Trap of Seeking Perfection - The Story of Writing My Book.Last year (2020), I wrote my first book - in only six months - as part of the Akimbo Writing in Community workshop.In my latest blog post, I tell the story of my struggle with perfectionism and how I eventually let go and shipped it. Follow Winding Road Careers: Website: https://www.windingroadcareers.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/windingroadcareers/ Linkedin: http...

05-25
08:17

Episode 31 - Portfolio Careers with David Nebinski

David Nebinski is the host of The Portfolio Career Podcast and was an inaugural coach in the Akimbo Podcasting Workshop created by Seth Godin and Alex DiPalma. I had a great conversation with David about what a portfolio career is, different ways to look at the "career capital" and the diverse range of experience and skills you've built over time to stand out, as well as, how to create a unique value proposition that can take your career in a direction you may have never thought possible...

05-12
50:19

Episode 30: Storytelling, Copywriting, and Job Descriptions

In this episode, I interview Katrina Kibben, a professional copywriter with a passion for creating job descriptions that don't suck.She's the CEO and Founder of Three Ears Media in Longmont, CO and we had a great conversation about why most job descriptions you see suck and how (actually why) they should be better.We talked about copywriting and storytelling - two of the most important skills you can have as a marketer - shared some of our favorite books on the topic.Katrina also did a 1...

05-05
40:42

Episode 29 - The Power of Your Network - Interview with Bethany Ellis, Chief People Officer at CreatorIQ

I sat down with Bethany Ellis to hear the story of how her current role, Chief People Officer at CreatorIQ, came to be.You may be surprised that the job search for executives isn't much different, at its core level, than it is for most other professional roles.Bethany talked about:The importance of her network and past mentors and how that played a role in her recent search.How her view of "treating candidates like they're already employees" was emphasized after her experience.What it felt li...

04-28
22:59

Episode 27 - Interview with Yuliya Salorenko - TEDx Speaker, Digital Marketer, and Growth Hacker

I sat down with TEDx speaker, Yuliya Salorenko from Tampere, Finland to discuss a wide range of topics, including personal branding, the power of networking, the future of retirement, Imposter Syndrome, and her personal story of being recruited for every professional role she's ever had despite being an immigrant in Finland.Yuliya is a growth hacker by day and a public speaker by night. Currently, she manages digital marketing at a data-driven growth company, Catapult, and runs her own public...

12-16
58:55

Interview - Amy Miller, Sr Recruiter on Amazon's Project Kuiper Team

This episode is full of information and a lot of laughs as I catch up with my former Microsoft co-worker, Amy Miller. Amy is now a Sr Recruiter on the Project Kuiper team at Amazon. We talk about what Project Kuiper is all about - and it's pretty fascinating. Especially, if you're a space geek like me.We also bust the myth about companies slowing down their hiring during the holidays, why you're most likely to make a lateral move when switching companies, advice for those who want t...

12-09
52:53

Stop Seeking Reassurance

To do our best work we need to stop seeking reassurance. In a recent Zoom call I was on with Seth Godin he made the comment that "reassurance is futile." In this episode, I share my thoughts and perspective after I've had 24 hours to reflect on what reassurance really is and why we should never seek it out. Follow Winding Road Careers: Website: https://www.windingroadcareers.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/windingroadcareers/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/comp...

08-12
12:16

Why Imposter Syndrome May Not Be a Bad Thing

Imposter Syndrome is something I hear a lot of people talking about - even people who seemingly have it all figured out. This feeling of not belonging or being good enough can sometimes hold us back and make us overly cautious about asking questions or speaking up when the opposite should actually happen.In this episode, I offer a different perspective on Imposter Syndrome. Follow Winding Road Careers: Website: https://www.windingroadcareers.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.c...

07-30
13:55

Stop Faking It Until You Make It

Have you heard people use the term 'fake it until you make it'? When you're considering a career change or pivoting into something different and you're waiting until you know more because you don't want to feel like a fraud by "faking it until you make it.Stop hiding. Follow Winding Road Careers: Website: https://www.windingroadcareers.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/windingroadcareers/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/winding-road-careers/ Twitter: https://twitte...

07-23
08:09

Should I have a side gig?

I talk about side gigs and why I think you should have one if you want to pivot your career. Without a side gig I likely would never have been able to move from corporate recruiting into a marketing career. Follow Winding Road Careers: Website: https://www.windingroadcareers.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/windingroadcareers/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/winding-road-careers/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thewindingrd Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/winding...

07-08
13:42

What it Means to Be a Professional

Now, more than ever, it's time to step up and be a true professional. Find out what I mean by this.Follow Winding Road Careers: Website: https://www.windingroadcareers.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/windingroadcareers/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/winding-road-careers/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thewindingrd Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/windingroadcareers

03-25
06:29

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