The Wobbly Middle

Patsy quit her job. Susannah quit the city. Now they’re on a quest to find the path through the wobbly middle of their careers. This podcast is for every woman who’s asking “What now?”. Hosted by Susannah de Jager and Patsy Day, The Wobbly Middle features interviews with famed city superwomen, dazzling entrepreneurs and revolutionary midwives and doctors who reveal what they’ve learnt through their own wobbly middle experiences.

From Delivery Room to Disruptor: When the Gloves Came Off

Midwife Nina Van Schaick had a calling, drawn to the raw, intimate moments of bringing life into the world. But she couldn’t ignore the unspoken agony she witnessed: 90% of women still endure tearing during childbirth.In a world where only 1% of pharma R&D goes toward maternal health, Nina realised she’d have to fix it herself. Now, her gloves are off. Nina has created a groundbreaking solution to tackle perineal tearing and taking her delivery room grit to the boardrooms that have long overlooked women’s health. This is her journey from midwife to FemTech pioneer. (00:00) - Introduction to The Wobbly Middle (03:08) - Nina's Journey into Midwifery (05:39) - The Emotional Spectrum of Midwifery (08:04) - Challenges and Changes in Midwifery (12:11) - Innovating with PeriPear (20:00) - Empowering Women in Midlife New episodes of The Wobble Middle are released fortnightly. For additional insights, read The Wobbly Middle on Substack. You can also find us on LinkedIn, Instagram and Facebook @thewobblymiddle.If you are in the wobbly middle of your career, please share your story with us via our socials or email us at thewobblymiddle@gmail.com. We'd love to hear what’s on your mind - and if you're out the other side, please let us know how you got there!About the hosts:Susannah de Jager is podcasting in Oxford, consulting to start-ups and occasionally advising on scale-up capital having left her role as CEO of a boutique asset manager and asked "what next?”. Oh, and she’s moving country with her husband and two young children. To say that she’s in The Wobbly Middle would be an understatement. This podcast is for her and for all those like her.Patsy Day is a lawyer on a break. As an intellectual property specialist, she has worked on everything from anti-counterfeiting to publishing and from London to Ho Chi Minh City and back again. Patsy lives in Oxford and is currently immersed in podcasts producing SafeHouse Amsterdam (out 2025) and co-hosting, The Wobbly Middle.

11-06
27:54

Unfinished Business

What happens when one of the most influential woman in the City resigns at the top of her game? Dame Helena Morrissey stunned the financial world when she stepped down as CEO of Newton Asset Management at 50 — without a fully formed plan. In this compelling episode, Helena opens up about the unfinished business that drove her forward; and how she learned to embrace discomfort as she forged a new path. As one of the most prominent advocates for equal pay and opportunity, Helena also sets out her powerful vision for getting more mid-career women into investment roles. Listen in to hear how she’s making an impact yet again, transforming the future of women in finance. New episodes of The Wobble Middle are released fortnightly. For additional insights, read The Wobbly Middle on Substack. You can also find us on LinkedIn, Instagram and Facebook @thewobblymiddle. https://thewobblymiddle.substack.comIf you are in the wobbly middle of your career, please share your story with us via our socials or email us at thewobblymiddle@gmail.com. We'd love to hear what’s inspiring you or if you have a question for us - and if you're out the other side, please let us know how you got there!About the hosts:Susannah de Jager is podcasting in Oxford, consulting to start-ups and occasionally advising on scale-up capital having left her role as CEO of a boutique asset manager and asked "what next?”. Oh, and she’s moving country with her husband and two young children imminently. To say that she’s in The Wobbly Middle would be an understatement. This podcast is for her and for all those like her.Patsy Day is a lawyer on a break. She has worked on all things IP from anti-counterfeiting to publishing and from London to Ho Chi Minh City and back again. Patsy lives in Oxford and is currently immersed in podcasts producing SafeHouse Amsterdam (out 2025) and co-hosting The Wobbly Middle.

10-23
32:45

From Playground to Powerhouse - Life on the Frontlines of a Revolution

Helen was made redundant while pregnant. In the playground, she watched as skilled mums - lawyers, accountants, architects - pushed swings, frustrated by the lack of jobs that could accommodate family life. Grabbing her phone and laptop, she decided to take matters into her own hands. In this episode, Helen Wright of 9-2-3 tells us of life at the forefront of the movement that is reshaping our working lives.You can find Helen at www.923jobs.comNew episodes of The Wobbly Middle drop every two weeks. For additional insights, read The Wobbly Middle on Substack. You can also find us on LinkedIn, Instagram and Facebook @thewobblymiddle. https://thewobblymiddle.substack.com/If you are in the wobbly middle of your career and would like to share your story with us, please drop us a line via our socials or email us at thewobblymiddle@gmail.com. We'd love to hear what inspiring you or if you have a question for us - and if you're out the other side, please let us know how you got there!About the hosts:Susannah de Jager is podcasting in Oxford, consulting to start-ups and occasionally advising on scale-up capital having left her role as CEO of a boutique asset manager and asked "what next?”. Oh, and she’s moving country with her husband and two young children imminently. To say that she’s in The Wobbly Middle would be an understatement. This podcast is for her and for all those like her.Patsy Day is a lawyer on a break. She has worked on all things IP from anti-counterfeiting to publishing and from London to Ho Chi Minh City and back again. Patsy lives in Oxford and is currently immersed in podcasts producing SafeHouse Amsterdam (out 2025) and co-hosting The Wobbly Middle.

10-09
32:35

Super Docs Navigating the Hormonal Highway

When they couldn't find help for their often young, sub-fertile patients who were being slammed by the perimenopause, Drs Susanne Hooper and Melanie Hacking took a sharp right turn in their own careers...Find Susanne and Melanie at the Oxford Hormone Clinic.New episodes of The Wobble Middle drop every two weeks. You can also read our Wobbly Middle musings on Substack at The Wobbly Middle. You can also find us on Instagram, @thewobblymiddleIf you are in the wobbly middle of your career and would like to share your story with us, please drop us a line via Substack or email us at thewobblymiddle@gmail.com. We'd love to hear what inspiring you or if you have a question for us - and if you're out the other side, please let us know how you got there!About the hosts:Susannah de Jager is podcasting in Oxford, consulting to start-ups and occasionally advising on scale-up capital. Having left her role as CEO as a boutique asset manager and asked "what next?”. Oh, and she’s moving country with her husband and two young children imminently. To say that she’s in The Wobbly Middle would be an understatement. This podcast is for her and for all those like her.Patsy Day is a lawyer on a break. She has worked on all things IP from anti-counterfeiting to publishing and from London to Ho Chi Minh City and back again. Patsy lives in Oxford and is currently immersed in podcasts producing SafeHouse Amsterdam (out 2025) and co-hosting The Wobbly Middle, a podcast about women navigating the path to their next career.

09-25
34:23

Welcome to The Wobbly Middle

Patsy quit her job. Susannah quit the city. Now they’re on a quest to find the path through the wobbly middle of their careers. This podcast is for every woman who’s asking “What now?”.Hosted by Susannah de Jager and Patsy Day, The Wobbly Middle features interviews with famed city superwomen, dazzling entrepreneurs and revolutionary midwives and doctors who reveal what they’ve learnt through their own wobbly middle experiences.Follow us on Instagram: @thewobblymiddleFind us on Substack: thewobblymiddle.substack.comAbout the hosts:Susannah de Jager is podcasting in Oxford, consulting to start-ups and occasionally advising on scale-up capital. Having left her role as CEO as a boutique asset manager and asked "what next?”. Oh, and she’s moving country with her husband and two young children imminently. To say that she’s in The Wobbly Middle would be an understatement. This podcast is for her and for all those like her. Patsy Day is a lawyer on a break. She has worked on all things IP from anti-counterfeiting to publishing and from London to Ho Chi Minh City and back again. Patsy lives in Oxford and is currently immersed in podcasts producing SafeHouse Amsterdam (out 2025) and co-hosting The Wobbly Middle, a podcast about women navigating the path to their next career.

09-11
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