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Grizabella was the wrong cat to die. After seeing CATS the Musical for the first time in July of 2016, podcast host Mike Abrams was filled with a whirlwind of emotions. He was amused, confused, and a little angry. Almost exactly three years later when the 2019 CATS movie trailer came out, Mike had enough. It was time to speak his truth – Grizabella was the wrong Cat to Die at the Jellicle Ball. In this podcast, Mike interviews CATS cast members, CATS superfans, CATS haters, and explores the backstories of the Jellicle characters all to make a case for why they were more worthy to ascend to the Heaviside Layer than Grizabella.Part of the Broadway Podcast Network.
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team.
"Macavity wants to steal Victoria from the House of Dots and have me join the House of Macavity." This episode features Baby who plays Victoria in this production. Hear Baby share about her ballroom experience she brings to this production, how her Victoria can be a metaphor for ballroom culture, and which House Victoria is in and is being recruited to join. Plus, Baby shares a few fun relationships nuances for Victoria like her crush on Rumpleteazer and her beef with Bombalurina.
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team.
"There are all these sweet moments but does she not try to push his buttons a little bit?" This episode features Shereen Pimentel who plays Jellylorum in this production. Hear Shereen share how she plays Jellylorum as Gus' granddaughter, about Jellylorum's crush on Demeter, and which house she thinks Jellylorum would consider. Plus, Shereen shares an interesting idea on why she thinks Grizabella is better as next year's Jellicle choice.
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Check out CATS: "The Jellicle Ball": pacnyc.org/whats-on/cats-the-jellicle-ball
Produced by:
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Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team.
"We have to remember we’re angelic cats. This is what we’re finding and it’s crazy how it lends itself. It’s called the Jellicle Ball. It’s angelic. That’s the universe and it’s bigger than any of us." This episode features Antwayn Hopper who plays Macavity in this production. Hear Antwayn share how he helped build out the Macavity story line that is slightly different than other versions, how he had to learn voguing for the role, and a few of the relationships the story has established for Macavity. Plus, Antwayn shares what Houses each cat is a part of (and was a part of) in this production.
Check out Antwayn on Instagram: @antwaynhopper
Check out CATS: "The Jellicle Ball": pacnyc.org/whats-on/cats-the-jellicle-ball
Produced by:
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Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team.
"In this version we are brother and sister. We have decided that Rumpleteazer is my little sister that I’ve brought into the ballroom community and she’s trying to make her own little name." This episode features Jonathan Burke who plays Mungojerrie in this production and also performed as Mungojerrie on the US National Tour 5 of CATS in 2008. Hear Jonathan share his obsession of CATS from a young age, what it was like revisiting a character for the first time, and Mungojerrie's house journey in the ballroom scene. Plus, Jonathan shares how he thinks of the relationship with Rumpleteazer.
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Check out CATS: "The Jellicle Ball": pacnyc.org/whats-on/cats-the-jellicle-ball
Produced by:
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Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team.
"Remembering the first episode I didn’t really understand CATS. Now I get it. I’m in. I drank the Kool Aid. I’m here and I love it." This episode features Emma Sofia who plays Skimbleshanks and Cassandra in this production. Emma was also Episode 35 of this show sharing her hilarious audition story for the revival of CATS in 2016 and she joins us to share how this booking is a full circle moment for her, her experience in this production, and how her two characters are similar to parts of her own life. Plus, Emma shares some fun stories from her audition for this production.
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Check out CATS: "The Jellicle Ball": pacnyc.org/whats-on/cats-the-jellicle-ball
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team.
"If I had a dollar for every time someone said ‘I’ve always hated CATS but I love this CATS’ I’d have doubled my salary on the show." This episode features Josephine Kearns who was the dramaturg & gender consultant for the production. Hear Josephine share the four year journey to bring this to life, her thoughts on some of the changes made in the production, and how the team integrated ballroom history into the Moments of Happiness. Plus, Josephine shares which house which cat would be a part of.
Check out Josephine on Instagram: @josephine.kearns
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Check out CATS: "The Jellicle Ball": pacnyc.org/whats-on/cats-the-jellicle-ball
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team.
"I was able to let Tugger sit on me and fit on me listening to them say - you are already Tugger so just be Sydney." This episode features Sydney James Harcourt who plays the Rum Tum Tugger in the production. Hear Sydney discuss having a front row seat to the ballroom culture conversations from icons, how he developed his own personality into Tugger, and the even more of a dive into the Tugger/Mistoffelees relationship (and he's DMs are open for fan art!). Plus, Sydney shares an incredible story about the Gus and Grizabella connection from Junior LaBeija that you won't want to miss.
Check out Sydney on Instagram: @sydneyharcourt
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Check out CATS: "The Jellicle Ball": pacnyc.org/whats-on/cats-the-jellicle-ball
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team.
"All of us have talked about how our characters are us, who we are in life." This episode features Robert "Silk" Mason who plays the magical Mr. Mistoffelees in the production. Hear Silk discuss their experience learning about CATS, how they bring their personality into the dance numbers, and where Mr. Mistoffelees would fit in the ballroom community. Plus, Silk shares some details on how the Mr. Mistoffelees/Rum Tum Tugger relationship builds in this production.
Check out Silk on Instagram: @_robertsilkmason_
Check out Silk's Haus on Instagram: @theroyalhausofsilk
Check out CATS: "The Jellicle Ball": pacnyc.org/whats-on/cats-the-jellicle-ball
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team.
"When we were building, the connection between us (Macavity & Grizabella) was that he used to be in the House of Glamour at one time." This episode features "Tempress" Chasity Moore who plays Grizabella in the production. Hear Chasity discuss her experience being back on stage, how she's tackling Memory each night, and a dive into the ballroom history as the founding mother of her own house. Plus, Tempress shares a fun ballroom character aspect their production has between her and Macavity.
Check out Tempress on Instagram: @i_am_tempress
Check out Tempress' podcast on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@FQCrazySexyCool
Check out CATS: "The Jellicle Ball": pacnyc.org/whats-on/cats-the-jellicle-ball
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"I love this show and I love this production. This production was so much fun because it spans all theater fans, all ballroom fans, and just people who want to go have a good time will like this." This bonus episode is a recap of "CATS: The Jellicle Ball" featuring Mike and Alan Seales of the Theatre Podcast recorded immediately after seeing a preview of this incredible production. This episode contains a few spoilers about the show but gives a breakdown of the what to expect when you enter the PAC. Mike and Alan give the production high praise and rave about it from start to finish. Be sure to check out this Jellicle masterpiece during their limited run.
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Get your tickets to CATS: The Jellicle Ball: pacnyc.org/whats-on/cats-the-jellicle-ball
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"The interesting thing with CATS is that the actors eventually do their own makeup. They do all the cat makeup but it has to go into the wig." This episode features Mundi Gove who was the Head of Wig Department on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Mundi share all of the background on the wig designs, how the wig helps determine the personalities of the characters, and some fun stories from her time on tour. Plus, Mundi shares a theory on how Grizabella's wig can give thought into why she's the Jellicle choice.
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"I loved how sophisticated she was. How she allowed nothing to really bother her but she was still so fierce. And that seems like exactly the type of cat that I could be." This episode features Mariah Reives who performed as Cassandra on the US National Tour 6 of CATS before the pandemic and is currently in the ensemble in The Great Gatsby Musical at the Broadway Theatre. Hear Mariah discuss missing the final call back for CATS on Broadway, memorable stories from tour, why Jennyanydots is her Jellicle choice, and what you can expect when you come to see The Great Gatsby Musical. Plus, Mariah and Mike cast The Great Gatsby Musical characters as CATS.
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"Once they bought into the idea of doing the show they deep dived into the internet and quickly found the hardcore fans of the musical and would show up to rehearsal and they would have all of these theories that they had never heard of before." This episode features the 2024 St. Clair College Production of CATS where I was joined by the director Kristyn Wiklanski who also played Cassandra on the 5th US National Tour in 2006 as well as Tatum Roy and Camryn Winnicky-Lewis who played Bombalurina and Demeter. Hear the three talk about announcing the show to the class, various theories they explored in their production, and how they took over social media with incredible content during their production. Plus, they shared how a handful of the cast turned from CATS haters to CATS lovers.
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"I have a thing that I call ‘Cat Story Time’ and I sit down with the cats and I tell them my version of the events, and tell them sort of what I know." This episode features Chaz Wolcott who played the magical Mr. Mistoffelees on the US National Tour 5 of CATS and has been the director and choreographer for multiple regional productions of the show. Hear Chaz share how he booked the show multiple times with perfect timing, his experience on tour, and how he tells the story when he's directing a regional production. Plus, Chaz and Mike go deep into ideas for how to reinvent a regional production.
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Produced by:
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Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied
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"I had seen the show after it opened and I knew that Skimbleshanks was the role for me. I knew that was the role that I wanted to do in the show." This episode features Kevin Winkler who performed as Skimbleshanks on the US National Tour 4 of CATS and is the author of a new book called "On Bette Midler". Hear Kevin share his crazy audition stories, why he knew he was perfect for Skimbleshanks, and some fun stories from his time on tour. Plus, Kevin shares more on his book and Kevin and Mike cast the cats into Bette Midler movies.
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"Watching the 1998 VHS which I rented on Netflix. I got the DVD mailed to me." This episode features Lucy Horton who played Jellylorum on the US National Tours 5 of CATS and in multiple regional productions. Hear Lucy share how she actually booked the show multiple times but had to turn down the contracts before joining the 5th Tour, how she approached the show on tour and regionally, and why Grizabella is still her Jellicle choice. Plus, Lucy shares a crazy story about being stuck in the tire at a regional theatre performing as Grizabella.
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Produced by:
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"What overtly having categories does dramaturgy of CATS itself is that there is a particular outcome of winner or loser that happens at the end of every song." This bonus episode features the creative team of the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS set in a ballroom which is appropriately titled: "CATS: The Jellicle Ball". Like me, many of you have been obsessing over this new production. I originally spoke with one of the directors Bill Rauch in July of 2022 when I first got wind of this potential new production which was just a reading at the time and the PAC wasn’t even open yet. Nearly 2 years later, I'm joined by directors Zhailon Levingston and Bill Rauch as well as music supervisor William Waldrop to discuss what you can expect from this new production. We recorded this episode two days before the team started rehearsals and discussed how this incredible production is being brought to life. This is an episode you won't want to miss.
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"When I got the audition appointment I was like this would be a blast to pretend to be a cat at this audition. Let's do it. I texted Kim and asked - How much cat do you give at the audition?" This episode features Mackenzie Warren who was Bombalurina in the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS. Hear Kim discuss seeing her friend Kim perform as Demeter in the show, how she created her backstory for Bombalurina, and her experience on the TV show Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt which had a CATS episode. Plus, Mackenzie shares a crazy story about how her Green Eye incident with a dog became a massive news story.
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"Part of me just needed to come on and defend Munkustrap. He gets a bad rap. You haven't talked to a lot of them. It's a rough time being in a leadership position when everyone's just trying to fool around. And you talk about herding cats, literally herding cats." This episode features Brett-Marco Glauser who perform as Munkustrap on the Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas production of CATS in 2016. Hear Brett-Marco share his experience in multiple regional productions of the show including one set in an abandoned video arcade, what it was like on the ship right out of college, and what the audiences were like with the show being included entertainment. Plus, Brett-Marco shares his experience participating in CATS in Quarantine in 2020.
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"I remember there's Green Eyes and a couple other times that the cats go into the house and into the audience. Because of everything that was going on I was an advocate about being like… can we figure out a way around that right now? And that night we didn’t." This episode features Brett Michael Lockley who performed as Pouncival on the US National Tour 6 of CATS and is currently a swing (and making his Broadway debut) in The Who's TOMMY at the Nederlander. Hear Brett discuss being in the show that was the final performance before the pandemic lockdown, what it was like to be on tour during the peak moments of the 2019 CATS movie, and what you can expect when you come to see The Who's TOMMY. Plus, Brett and Mike cast The Who's TOMMY characters as CATS.
Check out Brett on Instagram: @brett.lockley
Check out The Who's TOMMY on Instagram: @whostommyshow
Check out The Who's TOMMY on Broadway: tommythemusical.com
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