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goop CEO and founder Gwyneth Paltrow and longtime goop collaborator Erica Chidi, CEO and cofounder of LOOM, take turns hosting the brightest thinkers and culture changers.

291 Episodes
Psychologist and bestselling author Edith Eger’s book, The Gift: 12 Lessons to Save Your Life, explores the power of self-renewal and how to free yourself from thoughts and behaviors that might be imprisoning you. Today, she shares her own story of surviving the Holocaust and finding a path toward healing and forgiveness. GP and Eger discuss how to acknowledge and process anger, build resilience, and fall in love with yourself. Eger also describes her approach to revisiting the past and how she remains hopeful in the present. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Astrology can be a practical tool, says Chani Nicholas, astrologer and author of You Were Born for This. “Most of our spiritual life is lived out through very practical actions.” In this conversation, Nicholas explores the birth chart of our new cohost, Erica Chidi, CEO and cofounder of LOOM. And more broadly, Nicholas shares advice for anyone navigating a challenging transit period or in need of patience during a long cycle. Nicholas also explains why social justice and activism is important to her work: “How could I talk about a system of wisdom or knowledge that talks about humans and our experience here on earth without also addressing systemic inequalities?” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
GP is joined by her friend Erica Chidi, CEO and cofounder of LOOM, and probably one of the first subscribers to goop back in 2008. They talk about the ways they’ve intersected and aligned over the years, how Chidi’s work as a doula has evolved, and the next iteration of her digital education platform. They talk about racism in healthcare, how to move forward through discomfort, the beauty to be found in liminal spaces, and why care and education are necessary components of health. Plus, they reveal a secret they’ve been keeping for a while. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
“The cure for burnout is not self-care,” says Emily Nagoski. “It’s simply care. It’s all of us caring for each other. That means that when you think you need more grit, what you need is more help. When you think you need more discipline, you need more kindness.” In this special episode, we’re taking a break from our typical interview format to share an audio workshop led by Emily and her sister Amelia Nagoski. Their book, Burnout, explores how women experience stress and outlines strategies for freeing yourself from the stress cycle. For more from Emily Nagoski, check out the updated edition of her bestselling book Come As You Are—the audiobook is particularly great—and stay tuned for her new podcast, which will also cover sex and sexuality. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
“I don’t wake up and say, ‘I hope this is a great day, and I’m not going to get triggered,’” says psychotherapist Barry Michels, coauthor of Coming Alive and The Tools. “I say, ‘I’m going to get triggered. There’s no question.’” Last year, GP had a conversation with Michels that we keep returning to. In it, Michels shares his three-point plan for coping with negativity. He has tools for regulating your thoughts, preparing to get triggered, and processing your emotional wounds. He also has a way of helping people to find unexpected sources of inspiration and opportunities to be of service. Plus, you’ll get to meet GP’s shadow if you listen until the end. For more, head to The goop Podcast hub. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
GP catches up with her longtime friend Laura Dern. They chat about being raised by double-artist parents and how their childhoods informed their acting careers, creative lives, and parenting styles. They talk about how they try to create space for their children to be vulnerable and explore their sense of self. And Dern shares why living in the gray—and finding comfort in the messy middle—has become so important to her. “That is life,” says Dern. “And there's something incredibly tender, celebratory, and vital about living in the gray.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Many of us romanticize our past selves, says actress, producer, and activist Gabrielle Union. “If you don't do an excavation of how you got to where you are, you will continue to live in the romanticized version of who you were and you won't be able to let go.” In this conversation, GP and Union explore past and future selves, parenting within blended families, healing from deep wounds, menopause misconceptions, and small pleasures. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
GP is joined by Harvard-trained sociologist and bestselling author Martha Beck. Beck’s new book, The Way of Integrity, explores what happens when we’re living in alignment with our true nature and how we become disconnected from it. She and GP talk about the ways we sublimate our own truths to be accepted by our circles—the little lies we tell to keep the peace or when we smile through discomfort—and why society is often threatened by people living in integrity. They also discuss how we can begin to access to our inner truth and why Beck decided to try not lying for an entire year. (By the way, she is now going on five years.) After you listen, preorder Beck’s extraordinary book, which comes out April 13.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
GP catches up with model, actress, entrepreneur, and activist Cara Delevingne. They start with Delevingne’s experience working in a high-pressure industry at young age and how she learned to break free from other people’s expectations. “You're put in a box or told to be a certain way,” Delevingne says. “And I hated it because it wasn’t a shape that I fit into.” They talk about how Delevingne approaches imposter syndrome, being a role model in the LGBTQIA community, and her hopes for anyone following in her footsteps. She also gives a preview of the five-day workout series she’s kicking off on goop’s YouTube channel and the scoop on Lora DiCarlo, the sex-tech brand she co-owns and is shaping as creative advisor. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
“The smarter you are, often the worse you are at rethinking because you can use your intelligence to contort the truth into what you want to hear and what you want to believe,” says organizational psychologist and beloved Wharton professor Adam Grant. After reading his new book, Think Again, GP spoke with Grant about applying his research and wisdom to nearly every facet of life, from our careers to our most intimate relationships. Why do people generally fear being wrong? Grant says that we live in a world that celebrates certainty and mistakes confidence for competence. He explains the trap of letting our ideas become our identities, and how we can find common ground with one another while navigating charged topics. You’ll also find out why Grant is a recovering logic bully. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
GP is joined today by an actress, producer, and director whose work she’s admired for many years, Robin Wright. Wright has just released her feature directorial debut, Land (which she also stars in), about a woman suffering immeasurable loss who retreats to an abandoned cabin in the Rockies to find a new way to heal. Today, they talk about making career pivots, executing an artistic vision, and betting on yourself. They also discuss how we heal from trauma and why Wright felt called to make a movie about human kindness. “When you are faced with adversity,” says Wright, “it’s other humans that help pull us through and give us faith to live.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
GP catches up with her friend and functional medicine practitioner Will Cole, DC. Cole is the author of the new book Intuitive Fasting: The Flexible Four-Week Intermittent Fasting Plan to Recharge Your Metabolism and Renew Your Health. GP has been following Cole’s protocol this past month, and he joins her today to talk about her experience and how she’s been feeling since she started (spoiler: never better). They also talk through the tenets of intermittent fasting, what it means to be metabolically inflexible, and how quickly a damaged gut can rebound.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
“When something bad is happening, we tend to focus on that problem really narrowly,” says psychologist Ethan Kross. “But if you lose the ability to step back and see the bigger picture, that's when it can become problematic.” Kross explains how negative chatter can impact our lives and how our ability to introspect can better serve us. He also walks GP through his tools to soothe our inner voice when we find ourselves ruminating. “Negative emotions like anger, sadness, anxiety—they're good for us in small doses,” says Kross. “When they become bad is when we bathe in them.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
“Sometimes the greatest strength comes from holding course when there aren’t answers, when there isn’t the best outcome around the corner,” says Kristine Gedroic, MD. Gedroic is a Harvard graduate, a fellow of the American Board of Family Medicine, and the author of A Nation of Unwell: What Went Wrong?. She’s spent the past decade helping thousands of patients heal from chronic illnesses. She’s the kind of doctor people turn to when they feel like they’ve already tried everything. She joins host Gwyneth Paltrow today to talk about her journey to integrative medicine (which began with her own health scare), how to optimize our body’s own detoxification pathways, and the key foods and herbal remedies that she regularly leans on. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
“There’s no such thing as a perfect harmony with nature,” says John Chester, the farmer and filmmaker behind The Biggest Little Farm. “There’s a comfortable level of disharmony. There is purposefulness in this disharmony.” Chester and his wife, Molly, founded a regenerative biodynamic farm (Apricot Lane Farm) that became famous through their stunning documentary. He joins GP today to talk about what he’s learned over the last decade being in deep relationship with the ecosystem of his land and how he and Molly have reframed their many roadblocks into opportunities (and found patience when their end goal was nowhere in sight). He and GP also talk about how soil health impacts the quality of our diets, things to look for on a food label, and his hopes for the future of American farming. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
“When you have someone in your life who is experiencing illness, especially as a young person, it can be so impossible to bear witness to that,” says author Katherine E. Standefer. “Because then you are confronted with your own lack of control.” Standefer’s debut memoir, Lightning Flowers: My Journey to Uncover the Cost of Saving a Life, is stunning. Today, she joins host Elise Loehnen to tell the story of the rare diagnosis that led her on a mission deep into our fractured medical system. She shares what it was like to sit with vulnerability, what she learned from the avoidant tendencies of many of her doctors, and how she began to make sense of her complicated relationship with the medical advancements that were meant to save her. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
“When people ask me about the biggest issues in mental health, I say: Stigma is problems one, two, and three,” says psychiatrist Nina Vasan, MD. In addition to seeing patients in her private practice, Vasan is the chief medical officer at the mental health company Real and the executive director of the Stanford Lab for Mental Health Innovation. She joins GP today to talk about the long-tail mental health impacts of disasters and how trauma sometimes strengthens one’s resiliency. They talk about why addressing mental health can—and should—be part of our daily life. And Vasan shares coping strategies for different and persistent stressors, including ways that managers can be more mindful of their employees’ needs. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Daniel Lieberman is a professor of human evolutionary biology at Harvard University and the author of the new book Exercised: Why Something We Never Evolved to Do Is Healthy and Rewarding. Today, he joins host Elise Loehnen to break down the history and science behind why so many of us have trouble exercising even though we know it’s healthy for us. For one thing, Lieberman says, the pull to not exercise is a basic human instinct, which, if you ask us, is validating. They also chat through why there is no universal prescription when it comes to workout routines. But, he says, a good first step is taking stock of what you’re trying to achieve and then figuring out what you enjoy doing. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
We’re kicking off 2021 with a different kind of episode. Today, instead of being joined by a guest, GP is doing a lightning round of AMA, where she answers a handful of listener-submitted questions. True to form, your questions ran the gamut: what her perfect night in looks like, which wellness habit never caught on for her, advice for moms launching new businesses, and more. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Does Time Equal Money?

Does Time Equal Money?


In Celeste Headlee’s book—Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving—she examines our fractured relationships to work. Why do we use productivity as a measure of self-worth? Where does our obsession with efficiency come from? In this episode, she shares strategies for maintaining healthy boundaries around work and play and for developing more transparency between managers and employees. She also sells us on taking time off: “When someone takes all their vacation days, they actually end up being more productive, more effective, less error-prone, and more creative than someone who doesn’t.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Comments (67)

N Yangzom

Great episode!

May 8th


Gwyneth, I really love your podcasts, I just subscribed. I laughed with you and brené. Take care, hope you and yours are well

Feb 21st

Lori Daly

I used mistletoe/ fever therapy to shrink and kill a tumor in my breast and heal my body from cancer... in addition to radically changing my perspective of life. ✌️💜 thanks for sharing this great topic with people.

Aug 18th

bob caygeon

This podcast smells like garbage truck juice in July.

Jul 5th
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Brittany Edwards

got a little lost on this one.. first goop podcast I did not follow.

May 29th

Robert Aviles

the bat shit madness going on here is insane.

May 22nd

Lori Daly

Elise, All the issues brought up in the book are not the result of Trump's presidency. Your repetitive attempts to relate everything to Trump are obvious. You should have taken the same approach to alcohol and drugs when they were mentioned as a factor in the downfall of these people. In this country we spend so much time talking about how the government can help people, yet at the same time we watch as the alcohol industry destroys lives. Maybe that's the public policy that needs to change. Stop blaming every single problem going on in this country on one human being. It's ignorant. Also, the author said it himself, a lot of the jobs went away because of globalization which is the exact opposite of what Trump's trying to do. To bring manufacturing back to this country so that we have jobs for American people. I also listen to your podcast on narcissistic behavior and in that you mentioned Trump as well. I agree that he can be a pompous ass but that does not mean he does not have the best interest of the American worker in mind.

Apr 22nd

Haley Farmer

This is the cutest podcast ever. I loved it so much ❤️❤️

Apr 9th



Apr 4th

Lori Daly

The downside to everybody adopting pets right now because they're home is what do they do with the pets when they go back to work? so I worry about in a month from now if everybody's dumping adopted pets on the street.

Apr 1st
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Lori Daly

wow. And the hoops we have to go through to get mistletoe approved by the FDA so that it can be standard of care meanwhile it's a plant and it's been used in Europe for over 100 years not to mention using cannabis as medicine which I know we're making headway but the fact that it's not legal get all these toxic pharmaceuticals are and the horror that is the whole section on menopause just blew me away... it's time to go back to homeopathic alternative natural ways of living always and forever. thank you for This podcast. would like to see more on this. would love to see the end of drug ads on television oh my God what a horrible miscarriage of justice to our society.

Mar 12th

Kristin Fisher

Thank you, Gwyneth, Eckhart and everyone who made this podcast possible!! ❤❤❤

Feb 16th
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Alidra Alić

Thanks for info 🙏🏻 I was wondering if the soy mentioned is not regular soy, but soy made on fermented natto beans?

Feb 4th


Really good episode! I love how she as super honest and calling out things I don’t here from others at all 💪🏼

Feb 2nd

Tamara Lynn

Hello Gwyneth What is this stuff you & yr cronies write about?! In the REAL World most of us regular humans CAN NOT afford 1 or any of yr so~called formulas, puts, ect... Please come back down to Earth be sensible! Good Grief you say ' You are Authentic' but this so~called Goop is not. Consumers are not just about $$$

Nov 24th

D'Kota HintonLouis

Love this!!! So informative

Oct 5th

Tracey Duke

Fascinating interview but, in the context of the conversation, I was convinced all the way through that Elise's story of how she met Malcolm was indeed a wind up & a lie! Great interview!

Oct 1st

Bee Stone

Did she actually say "architected"??? So ridiculous.

Sep 14th

David Zysk

sim sum salabin

Aug 5th
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Amandla Karungi

The creation of artificial scarcity goes back many years. Before the creation of colonies in Africa, people lived in communities. Life was communal. There were no nuclear units of wealth or families in the sense that its me and my children and our money. People lived as homesteads, and clans. The concept of money, individual wealth and accumulation came with among other things, forcing our communities to grow 'cash crops' such as coffee and cotton for money while punishing those who insisted on growing 'food crops'. Therefore a whole family was forced to stop producing food and instead grow cotton which was sold to the colonial government for a few coins. After that, those coins would need to buy food and processed cotton as clothes brought back as finished goods to the continent. Yes, they were droughts, famine before colonialism and the partition of Africa but the concept of 'African poverty has not only been deeply entrenched but systematically and intentionally propagated. The term 'privileged few' is more than just a creation to sustain the first world- third world hierarchy.

Jul 4th
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