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Helping believers think Christianly about theological and cultural issues by engaging in curious conversations with a diverse range of thoughtful people.


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Laurie Krieg is the Director of Parent Programs & Discipleship at The Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender, where she also serves as a founding board member. Laurie has a master’s in evangelism and leadership from Wheaton Graduate School, and she and her husband, Matt, are the co-hosts of the Hole in My Heart Podcast, co-authors of An Impossible Marriage (IVP 2020), and together wrote the forthcoming parenting book, Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World (IVP 2026). Pre-order our brand new resource: Christian Sexuality: Raising Kids, which releases on Sept 16th! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Laurie Krieg is the Director of Parent Programs & Discipleship at The Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender, where she also serves as a founding board member. Laurie has a master’s in evangelism and leadership from Wheaton Graduate School, and she and her husband, Matt, are the co-hosts of the Hole in My Heart Podcast, co-authors of An Impossible Marriage (IVP 2020), and together wrote the forthcoming parenting book, Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World (IVP 2026). Pre-order our brand new resource: Christian Sexuality: Raising Kids, which releases on Sept 16th! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Joshua S. Porter is a writer, pastor, and former frontman of the art-punk band Showbread. After years of loud music and louder questions, he now teaches and writes about radical discipleship, faith after deconstruction, and the subversive way of Jesus. He is the author of Death to Deconstruction and How to Die: Chaos, Mortality, and the Scandal of Christian Discipleship. Josh pastors at Van City Church in Vancouver, Washington. Find him at joshuasporter.com. Join the Theology in the Raw community to listen to our "extra innings" conversation about Josh's behind the scenes peak into the Chrisitan rock music industry. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Dr. Kevin J. Vanhoozer is one of the leading Evangelical theologians of our day. He’s taught systematic theology and hermeneutics at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, Edinburgh University, and Wheaton College. He’s currently a Research Professor of Systematic Theology at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He’s the author of many groundbreaking books, two of which are important for this conversation: Is There a Meaning in this Text? and Mere Christian Hermeneutics: Transfiguring What it Means to Read the Bible Theologically. Join the Theology in the Raw community to listen to our "extra innings" conversation about "inerrancy" and whether this is a legitimate description of the Bible. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Street Hymns is a musical & spoken word artist, writer, producer, & battle rapper. Street has been a regular performing artist at the Exiles in Babylon conferences and is one of the most creative and talented persons I've ever met. He's also working on a series of Manga books for David C. Cook publishers. Search "Street Hymns Battle Rap" on YouTube to see him in action! Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Brenna Blain is a Contemporary Theologian, teacher, and author of the bestselling book Can I Say That? How Unsafe Questions Lead Us to the Real God. Her work focuses on the intersection of faith, suffering, and orthopraxy. She is passionate about preaching for and advising churches across the world, partnering relationally to offer guidance on complex realities with a compassionate and orthodox lens. Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Dr. Shawn Wilhite is an Associate Professor of New Testament at California Baptist University. He has two earned Ph.D.s: one from Durham University (Theology and Religion), where he wrote his dissertation on Cyril of Alexandria and Scriptural Exegesis, and another from Southern Seminary (New Testament), where he wrote his dissertation on The Didache. Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Max Lucado is a pastor, speaker, and best-selling author who, in his own words, “writes books for people who don’t read books.” He serves the people of Oak Hills Church in San Antonio, Texas. Max’s books have sold more than 150 million copies in over 50 languages worldwide. His latest book is: Tame Your Thoughts: Three Tools to Renew Your Mind and Transform Your Life. Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content. https://www.patreon.com/theologyintheraw See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Joshua Ryan Butler is a Teaching Pastor with the Willamette family of churches in the Portland area and the author of The Party Crasher, Beautiful Union, The Skeletons in God’s Closet, The Pursuing God, and his most recent book, God is On Your Side. To listen to our "extra innings" conversation, head over to Theology in the Raw's Patreon page to become a member of the Theology in the Raw community. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Kurt Ver Beek is the co-founder of the Association for a More Just Society (ASJ). He taught as a professor of Sociology at Calvin University, where he directed the Honduras Justice Studies semester with his wife, Jo Ann, for 20 years. He is the author of Call for Justice, co-written with Christian philosopher Nicholas Wolterstorff. Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Marian Jacobs has a background in theater-arts and is an avid reader, writer, wife and mother, and a current seminary student. She’s the author of the recently released On Magic and Miracles: A Theological Guide to Discerning Fictional Magic, which is the topic we discuss in this conversation. Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Kainan is a covenant member and commissioned leader at a Southern Baptist church in Grand Prairie, Texas. He earned his BA in Communication Theory from Dallas Baptist University and is currently pursuing a Master of Theological Studies at Grimké Seminary in their School of Urban Ministry. Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Subscribe to Theology in the Raw on Patreon to instantly unlock Part 2 of this episode for FREE. You'll get to watch Malcolm and Thaddeus interact with questions from each other and our live audience! Just head to www.patreon.com/theologyintheraw and select “Join for Free” to watch now. For this first video, I invited Dr. Thaddeus Williams and Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley to discuss and debate the role of social justice in the mission of the the Church. This took place at 2025 Exiles in Babylon Conference, hosted in Minneapolis April 3-5, 2025. Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley serves as the Special Advisor to the President of Baylor University for Equity and Campus Engagement and as a pastor at Mosaic Waco, an intentionally multi-cultural, non-denominational church in Waco, TX. His book with Brazos Press, The Anti-Greed Gospel: Why the Love of Money is the Root of Racism and How The Church Can Create a New Way Forward, argues that the only truly antiracist Christian communities are the ones that resist greed and exploitationThaddeus Williams (Ph.D., Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam) serves as tenured professor of theology for Biola University. He is also the author of the best-seller Confronting Injustice without Compromising Truth: 12 Questions Christians Should Ask About Social Justice. He has also taught Philosophy and Literature at Saddleback College, Jurisprudence at Trinity Law School, and as a lecturer in Worldview Studies at L’Abri Fellowships in Switzerland and Holland, and Ethics for Blackstone Legal Fellowship the Federalist Society in Washington D.C.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Subscribe to Theology in the Raw on Patreon to instantly unlock this full Bonus Q&A. You’ll also have access to a huge archive of bonus episodes, Extra Innings, and free video content from the Exiles in Babylon archives. Here’s the questions you’ll find when you unlock the full episode!* Huldah interpreted Scripture for men and was sanctioned by God as a prophet to do so. Does that role for women change in the New Testament?* Do you see this issue as an agree-to-disagree issue between Christians? How important is it and why?* Does Phoebe being a letter carrier necessarily mean that she is teaching authoritatively? Isn't Paul the true authority, and she is simply representing him?* In 1Tim 3:1 Paul says “if anyone desires to be an elder” if he meant only men, why use the Greek word “tis” and not a more descriptive word for male?* Is it possible to be a mutualist at home but a purely symbolic complementarian in the church on the basis that bishops are representatives of the apostles?* Elder-exclusive complementarianism is the only form that makes any sense to me, Biblically. What arguments, if any, do you see for stricter forms?* Does "husband of one wife" in 1 Tim. 3.2;3.12 have to be gender exclusive? Could it be translated as some have suggested as a "one-man" woman?* Comps: women cant teach/exercise auth. over men because 1 Tim 2.But Priscilla teaching Apollos is to a degree a man submitting to a woman’s teaching. How you understand this?* In Gen 3 God punished females with subjection to their husbands due to Eve's sin. Is Paul extrapolating this to church leadership positions as well in 1 Tim 2?* Do we need to read primogeniture into Genesis in order to be faithfully exegeting Genesis 2?* With so many Hapax Legomena in 1 Timothy, and 8 alone in 1 Timothy 2, why is it so often quoted as “the clearest passage on women” in the New Testament?* Does Gen. 3:15 indicate that sexism is from Satan, ie., that the enemy specifically targets women? If so, what are the implications for the church/Christians?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Miko Peled is an Israeli-American, whose father Matti Peled was a famous Israeli general who served in the 1948 and 1967 war with the Israel Defense Force. Miko also served 3 years in the IDF. But he is now an activist advocating for Palestinian liberation and the end to the occupation. Miko is the founder and president at Palestine House of Freedom in Washington, D.C. And is the author of several books including The General’s Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine. Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Measha Brueggergosman-Lee is a professional singer and musician, who in 2024 became the first black recipient and youngest recipient ever of the Lifetime Achievement Award for Classical Music from the Governor General of Canada. She’s also the author of her memoir Something Is Always On Fire and is currently writing a sequel entitled Open-Hearted. She is currently in the third year of a Masters in Practical Theology at Acadia Divinity College.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Dr. Daniel Bannoura (PhD, University of Notre Dame) is a Palestinian theologian. His research focuses on the Quran, Christian-Muslim relations, and Palestinian theology. He's also a co-host of "Across the Divide", a podcast on faith and politics in the context of Palestine-Israel. And he’s on the organizational team for the upcoming “Church at the Crossroads” conference outside of Chicago this coming September (11-13). Recieve $20 off registration for the Church at the Crossroads conference by entering "TITR" upon checkout. Listen to Daniel's podcast Across the Divide. Click on this link to find Daniel's resource list for Israel-Palestine: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JHWbiYVQ4sD5gX-o0yHC-5hXnY1KPf0kBvw2rZSJfiE/edit?usp=sharing Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Dr. Ed Uszynski (PhD, Bowling Green State University) has been working with collegiate and professional athletes in various roles with Athletes in Action since 1992. He’s the author of Untangling Critical Race Theory: What Christians Need to Know and Why It Matters (IVP) and his most recent book, Away Game: A Christian Parents Guide to Navigating Youth Sports, coauthored with Brian Smith. To listen to our "extra innings" conversation, head over to Theology in the Raw's Patreon page to become a member of the Theology in the Raw community. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Laura Tiessen

I think the interviewee is overstating her case. In my experience, fiction readers are not any more empathetic than non-fiction readers. ln fact, there are plenty of non-fiction books that promote empathy far more effectively. To say that a preference for reading non-fiction is a stronghold is over the top. Sometimes it's just a preference.

Aug 4th
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Paul Loeffler

Other than having to listen to all the talk about the Rangers (Go Mariners!), fascinating talk.

Jul 23rd
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Kevin

This was quite frustrating to listen to at times and makes me desire for someone with an opposing view to be having a discussion along with Mark, because Preston oftentimes does not present opposing viewpoints accurately or with much detail, then the guest just dismisses it as totally illegitimate and Preston just giggles as if to suggest certain concerns are only coming from conspiracy theorist Neanderthals - kind of insulting. I can't believe Mark said that the pandemic would essentially be over if everyone got vaccinated today. Is he not at all aware of the dozens of examples (anywhere from institutions to entire countries) that have extremely high vaccination rates and yet are experiencing record outbreaks? Mark seemed to in no way acknowledge that vaccinated people are very much spreading the virus themselves. I could say more, but it was just very disappointing to get this unbalanced view.

Nov 20th
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Christina S

I think you meant "and wife?" :)

Aug 5th
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Octavio Fernandez y Mostajo Saavedra

Brother , I was really looking forward to listening to this podcast but her audio is so muddy that is very difficult to listen to this for more than 5 min

Jul 3rd
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Cheriet

Some good questions and answers, but you both made several unquestioned assumptions and missed some important biblical/hermeneutical issues. Additionally, there were some problematic statement: e.g., What about those who had being "Eunuchs" forced on them (e.g., by being attracted to the same sex)? You excluded that category and didn't address it. That's not intellectually rigorous and should have been part of the conversation (knowing you both probably have some response to this). Also, generally, marriage is not a calling, neither is celibacy. And, since most are heterosexual, why is that not sufficient for the broad purpose of marriage (particularly procreation) and leave those who can't have children, don't want children, or are attracted to the same sex join in a committed relationship, particularly since the biblical authors and audiences would not have been able to image this debate with their cultural blinders? Then there's the comment that was made that the family unit is the

Jun 1st
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Cheriet

So many good points. I would quibble that the image of God is not what enables resurrection. I would also say that no part of creation is inherently immortal.

Mar 24th
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Bryan/DexCaliber

catholicism is not christianity. Christianity is a Faith. Catholicism is a religion(don't know the difference?). Look it up!!

Mar 20th
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Cheriet

Great episode! On point. I'd just quibble that sin isn't only or mainly an issue of power. That's a different ideology.

Mar 10th
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Cheriet

Sadly, Preston's political awareness is drastically insufficient. Also, leaning towards Fox News app a more reliable source is being willfully blinded... look at the current law suit. Every news source has a bent, but Preston doesn't seem to be willing to do the homework to properly address credibility. Case in point, border dementia began under Obama, but separating children from parents began under Trump...a distinction never acknowledged or understood.

Feb 7th
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Cheriet

And you're not concerned about Trump undermining democracy and following autocratic playbooks? How one-sided.

Nov 30th
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Cheriet

The assessment off the need landscape is terribly off. Fox News is not more objective than others.

Nov 26th
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Raymond

i prefer calling it the Kung Flu

May 22nd
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Josh Wilkinson

Sprinkle is very academically and Biblically robust while maintaining authentic relatability and pastoral application in every episode. Love myself some Theology in the Raw.

Mar 12th
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