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Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School

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These are thoughts that go beyond what we normally discuss in Sunday School. We can be mature enough to tolerate discussing things more deeply and challenging our faith. I hope my thoughts can spark some introspection and help you grow and deepen your faith. Correlates with the Come Follow Me curriculum of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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August 25-31: D&C 93

August 25-31: D&C 93

2025-08-3104:24

Topic: Decoding. This episode shares candid reflections questioning the clarity and purpose of Joseph Smith's language about truth, knowledge, light, and intelligence. We describe how Section 93 felt cryptic and repetitive, and draw an analogy to online "decoders" and QAnon—arguing the text invites puzzling rather than practical spiritual growth. The episode emphasizes honest, critical thinking over mystification and aims to spark discussion among friends, family, and classes.
Topics: 1) Education and learning; 2) All things for our good; 3) Vienna Jaques; and 4) The Word of wisdom. This episode offers candid reflections focusing on education and learning, the church's relationship with intellectual inquiry, the limits of the promise that "all things shall work together for our good," and the application of the Word of Wisdom. We also highlight the story of Vienna Jaques and critique how church policies can exclude and judge faithful members. Expect honest critique rather than faith promotion, personal experiences from BYU and missionary life, and ideas intended to spark discussion with friends, family, or classes.
Topics: 1) Priesthood; 2) South Carolina; and 3) One Mighty and Strong. Welcome to this week's episode of "Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School," where we dive into some thought-provoking topics from Doctrine and Covenants sections 84 through 87, exploring new perspectives that challenge traditional narratives. This episode, featuring discussions on Priesthood, South Carolina, and the enigmatic prophecy of One Mighty and Strong, aims to spark insightful conversations in your circles. We begin with a candid analysis of the concept of priesthood, examining its implications for women within a patriarchal system. Digging deep into the lesson manual's attempt to address the perceived inequalities, we question whether the explanations hold up against the reality of systemic patriarchy embedded in the church's structure. The episode further investigates the "Civil War Prophecy," shedding light on its historical context. Through this lens, we critique the narratives formed around the prophecy throughout the years. We conclude with a profound discussion on the prophecy of the One Mighty and Strong, exploring its influence on extremist factions and the resulting violence. The dialogue delves into religious extremism's complex roots, highlighting the connection between entrenched misogyny and radical beliefs that have, disturbingly, led to tragic outcomes. Join us for an honest and eye-opening episode as we explore these critical topics, encouraging you to reflect and perhaps even ignite important discussions with others.
July 14-27: D&C 77-83

July 14-27: D&C 77-83

2025-07-2011:08

Topics: 1) Changes to the D&C (United Firm and Jesse Gause); 2) I, the Lord, am bound; and 3) Virginia H. Pearce’s story. In this episode, we delve into thought-provoking topics regarding the Doctrine and Covenants. We explore changes to the text over time, including the intriguing story of the United Firm and Jesse Gause. The discussion sheds light on the motivations behind these alterations and their implications on the church's history. We also revisit doctrines like "I, the Lord, am Bound" and share insights on the impact of such teachings on personal faith and agency. The episode concludes with a critical examination of Virginia H. Pearce's story, highlighting themes of control, love, and the journey toward understanding and acceptance.
Topics: 1) Coping with church criticism; 2) Church roles evolution; and 3) Afterlife vision. In this thought-provoking episode, we focus on the topics of coping with church criticism, the evolution of church roles, and beliefs about the afterlife. Drawing from the historical critiques faced by the church, the speaker examines how institutional responses have historically fallen short. The discussion also touches on the evolving role of bishops and potential future changes within the church hierarchy. A reflective exploration of personal beliefs about the afterlife offers a fresh perspective, challenging traditional views while promoting a compassionate understanding of individuality and choice. Join the journey of honest reflection and thought stimulation on these compelling topics.
June 16-29: D&C 64-70

June 16-29: D&C 64-70

2025-06-2209:23

Topics: 1) Forgiveness; 2) William McLellin; and 3) The Book of Commandments. In this episode, we delve into ideas often left unsaid in Sunday School. We explore the concept of forgiveness as depicted in the Doctrine and Covenants, questioning conventional teachings and emphasizing personal peace over institutional demands. The narrative of William McLellin offers an intriguing story of faith, dissent, and resilience amidst church leadership conflicts and personal spiritual experiences. His journey through excommunication and continued belief in the Book of Mormon suggests a complex relationship with organized religion. Finally, we touch on the origins of the Book of Commandments, highlighting its evolution into the Doctrine and Covenants and examining changes reflecting Joseph Smith's evolving doctrines. Join us for an honest discussion aimed at sparking meaningful conversations.
June 2-15: D&C 58-63

June 2-15: D&C 58-63

2025-06-0810:45

Topics: 1) Unfulfilled promises; 2) Ezra Booth; and 3) Chaste thoughts. In this thought-provoking episode, we dive into the topics of unfulfilled promises, the story of Ezra Booth, and the concept of chaste thoughts. Reflect on the journey of the Colesville Saints, who faced repeated relocations based on unmet promises, and consider the broader implications for those who question institutional guarantees. Explore the life of Ezra Booth, a Methodist preacher who became one of the earliest critics of Joseph Smith after experiencing personal disillusionment despite witnessing a miraculous healing. Understand how his journey from faith to agnosticism reflects a deeper struggle with expectation versus reality. Finally, challenge conventional teachings on chastity by examining the impact of repressing sexuality. Advocate for a healthier perspective on sexuality by acknowledging it as a divine gift and understanding its place in doctrine without the fear of repression. This episode aims to spark meaningful discussions around these often unspoken topics.
Topics: 1) Correct teachings and Leman Copley; 2) Marriage; and 3) Stewardship. This episode of "Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School" explores unconventional ideas and perspectives on Doctrine and Covenants, Sections 49-57. The discussion touches on topics such as correct teachings, the story of Leman Copley and his struggle with Shaker beliefs, and the complexities surrounding marriage and stewardship within the church. Through a candid analysis, the episode questions traditional views on marriage roles and the church's approach to stewardship, advocating for more equitable partnerships. It also highlights the challenges in maintaining one's integrity and generosity while navigating religious expectations. Join the conversation as these ideas aim to spark discussion and bring light to lesser-heard viewpoints.
May 5-18: D&C 45-48

May 5-18: D&C 45-48

2025-05-1110:13

Topics: 1) Jesus Christ is our advocate with the Father; 2) Stand in Holy Places; and 3) Is the Church welcoming? In this episode, we dive into unconventional thoughts and ideas that challenge traditional narratives within the church community. We begin by exploring the role of Jesus Christ as our Advocate, questioning the necessity of intermediation between us and our Heavenly Parents. Moving on, we discuss the concept of "Standing in Holy Places," emphasizing that personal attachment and meaning can create sacred spaces beyond conventional religious settings. Finally, we analyze the church's inclusivity, focusing on how exclusive language and certain attitudes create barriers for visitors and outsiders. We tackle the complex issues of exclusivity, persecution mentality, and the importance of making genuine connections within our communities. Listen in as we encourage open discussions and genuine reflection during lessons.
Topics: 1) Zion; and 2) The Law In this week's episode, we delve into thought-provoking topics related to personal freedom, belonging, and the true essence of unity. As we explore Doctrine and Covenants sections 37 through 44, we reflect on the concept of Zion and the significance of building a community where individuals are valued for their unique identities rather than forced conformity. We discuss the implications of imposing conformity within families and relationships, highlighting the importance of love and acceptance as foundational values. The episode also touches on the role of laws in guiding individuals to make ethical choices, encouraging personal growth beyond rigid guidelines. Join us as we challenge traditional narratives and offer fresh perspectives that may inspire stimulating conversations within your own families and communities.
April 7-13: D&C 30-36

April 7-13: D&C 30-36

2025-04-1206:48

Topics: 1) Missionary work; 2) People who leave. In this week's episode, the focus is on sharing candid thoughts about missionary work and the experience of people who leave the church. The lesson challenges traditional ideas and encourages open conversations about personal spirituality and faith. The discussion questions the approach of pushing spiritual beliefs onto others and critiques the "orange juice" analogy used to justify missionary efforts. The episode also addresses the importance of honest faith examination, exploring the dynamics of internal motivations and the impact of church teachings on individuals. Furthermore, it delves into the journeys of two historical church figures, Northrop Sweet and Ezra Thayre, providing insights into their decisions to part ways with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Through this exploration, listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own spiritual paths and the authenticity of their faith journeys.
Topics: 1) Sacrament food and drink; 2) Hiram page’s revelation; 3) All things unto me are spiritual; and 4) The devil cannot tempt children. Welcome to another episode where we delve into sometimes unspoken ideas in Sunday School teachings. This week, we explore the concept of focusing on the spirit rather than the letter of the law, as demonstrated in the doctrine of sacrament food and drink. This discussion extends to Hiram Page's controversial revelation and its implications on church authority and control. We mention how this historical precedent continues to affect church practices today. Furthermore, we consider how the idea that 'All Things Unto Me Are Spiritual' urges us to look for deeper spiritual lessons in our everyday practices, challenging the emphasis on strict obedience. Finally, we ponder on the notion that children are untouched by Satan's temptations until a certain age. Join us as we seek to spark thoughtful dialogue on these intriguing topics.
March 17-23: D&C 23-26

March 17-23: D&C 23-26

2025-03-2213:12

Topics: 1) Emma Hale Smith; and 2) Common consent. In this episode of "Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School," we delve into the complexities surrounding the life of Emma Hale Smith, the wife of Joseph Smith, and her tumultuous relationship with the early Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We explore her challenges, her defiance against polygamy, and her strained relations with Brigham Young. The episode further examines the notion of 'common consent' within the church. We critique the concepts of consent and dissent, illustrating how true informed consent and the ability to openly disagree are often hindered within the church's teachings and practices. Join us as we question the narratives, challenge the status quo, and seek to ignite meaningful discussions around faith, truth, and integrity.
March 10-16: D&C 20-22

March 10-16: D&C 20-22

2025-03-1508:41

Topics: 1) The need for a church; 2) Women and priesthood; and 3) Obeying the prophet yields divine protection. In this episode, we dive into a refreshing perspective on common teachings, particularly challenging the notion of the necessity of organized religion. We question prevailing beliefs on why religious organizations, especially churches, are deemed essential and explore if they truly align with Christ's teachings of kindness and love. We also tackle the sensitive topic of women's roles in the Church, critiquing how the idea of authority is spun and whether teachings reflect reality. Moreover, we discuss the concept of obeying the prophet for divine protection, questioning its validity and implications on personal spiritual growth. Thought-provoking questions are posed, aiming to inspire deeper reflection and conversation among listeners. Join us as we unpack these critical issues and invite you to reconsider standard narratives.
Topics: 1) The worth of souls is great; and 2) Manipulating Martin Harris. In this thought-provoking episode, we delve into the concept of the worth of souls as taught in Doctrine and Covenants sections 18. The discussion challenges societal conditioning that assigns unequal value to individuals based on wealth, race, gender, and other factors. By exploring these biases, we uncover the importance of recognizing the equal worth of all souls, as taught by the gospel. Additionally, we examine the manipulative pressures placed on Martin Harris by Joseph Smith in Doctrine and Covenants sections 19, raising questions about the power dynamics within religious settings and personal experiences of feeling pressured in faith-based decisions. Listen in for a candid conversation on the importance of sincere, honest discussions about faith and societal values, sparking reflection on how we can improve individually and collectively.
Topics: 1) The 116 lost pages; 2) Restoration of the priesthood; and 3) Witnesses of the Book of Mormon. In this episode of "Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School," we embark on a journey to explore some lesser-discussed aspects of the Latter-day Saint history. We dive into the intriguing story of the 116 Lost Pages, shedding light on the tensions and theories surrounding their disappearance. Was it a simple manipulation or a divine lesson? We further delve into the restoration of the Aaronic and Melchizedek Priesthoods, questioning the narratives and historical evidence concerning these important events. Examining the intricate dynamics between Joseph Smith and early church members, we consider the implications of faith, skepticism, and authority. In analyzing the witnesses of the Book of Mormon, we reflect on the financial stakes and personal commitments of those involved. How reliable are the accounts of witnesses? This thoughtful examination aims to foster critical thinking and spark engaging discussions among listeners about foundational LDS narratives.
Topics: 1) Translation of the Book of Mormon; 2) Martin Harris and Professor Charles Anthon; and 3) Oliver Cowdery’s translation attempt. Explore the lesser-known account of the Book of Mormon's translation process, uncovering how Joseph Smith used a seer stone rather than the traditional Urim and Thummim. This casts doubt on what many were taught and the Church's main narrative. Dive into the intriguing story of Martin Harris's encounter with Professor Charles Anthon, unraveling the conflicting accounts and motives behind their meeting. Delve into Oliver Cowdery's brief attempt at translation, highlighting the skepticism surrounding his role and the method taught in the Doctrine and Covenants 9. Reflect on wider implications for understanding personal revelation and the balance between agency and reliance on divine guidance.
Topics: 1) The term First Vision; 2) Four different versions; and 3) The narrative of Joseph Smith-History. This episode questions the use of the term "first vision" and explores the inconsistencies among four accounts provided by Joseph Smith. We discuss how the term "vision" signifies a superficial experience, possibly undermining the profound impact it's presumed to have. We also look into Joseph Smith's persecution claims and scrutinize his narrative's inconsistencies, along with his admittance of personal faults and involvement in polygamy at the time of writing these accounts. Our exploration aims to offer an honest perspective, challenging traditional interpretations and encouraging open discussions among listeners.
Topics: 1) Restoration; 2) Only true and living church; and 3) Voice of my servants is the same. In this episode, we explore unconventional ideas about familiar religious teachings, focusing on the concept of restoration within The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. By examining the original organization of the Christian church and comparing it with modern structures, the discussion challenges traditional views on institutional power, authority, and exclusivity claimed by the church. This episode covers insights from the New Testament about the organizing principles of Christ's ministry, arguing that his primary focus was on personal transformation rather than forming a structured institution. The conversation also scrutinizes the church's emphasis on being the "only true and living church", prompting listeners to reassess this narrative and its validity. The episode further questions the idea of "whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same." It urges listeners to critically assess the reasoning behind restoration and how these teachings align with the essence of Christ's inclusivity. Join the discussion and discover perspectives meant to inspire thoughtful dialogue within your communities.
Topics: 1) Moroni's promise; 2) Spiritual gifts. In this episode, we delve into Moroni Chapter 10, discussing concepts like Moroni's promise and spiritual gifts with a fresh perspective. This episode marks the conclusion of the Book of Mormon series, with reflections on finding truth beyond literal interpretations and understanding the subjective nature of spiritual experiences. We break down Moroni's promise and discuss its implications. As we explore the nature of spiritual gifts, there’s a shift from viewing them as a source of ego to recognizing them as inherent talents in everyone. The importance of spiritual gifts evolves as individuals grow spiritually and become more grounded in their relationship with God.
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