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Author: Curtis Shelton and Ryan Haynie

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A political podcast that won’t make you hate your neighbor. Curtis and Ryan unpack cultural and political issues facing Oklahoma and the nation with a light-hearted air. Brought to you by The Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs.

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Shutdown Showdown

Shutdown Showdown

2025-10-1342:29

Curtis and Ryan are joined by Mike Palicz of Americans for Tax Reform to analyze the ongoing government shutdown: who’s to blame, what caused it, and what it will take to resolve it.
Charlie Kirk

Charlie Kirk

2025-09-2952:41

Curtis and Ryan discuss the impact of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Ryan and Curtis speak with Neil Chilson of the Abundance Institute about who should lead the regulation of AI and how aggressive those regulations should be.
Curtis and Ryan talk with John Stonestreet, president of the Colson Center, about a new documentary he partnered with Focus on the Family to create, titled Truth Rising. The film examines the decline of Western civilization, addresses contemporary societal issues, and underscores the hope found in Christ—encouraging you to embrace your God-given calling to be a catalyst for renewal.
Curtis and Ryan give an update on how legislative session has gone so far and how the last few weeks might shape up.
Why Work?

Why Work?

2025-03-3144:20

Curtis and Ryan talk with David Bahnsen, Chief Investment Officer of The Bahnsen Group and bestselling author, about flipping the script on how we see work—and why it might just be one of life’s greatest blessings.
Curtis and Ryan sit down with former state Representative Kevin McDugle to discuss the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Glossip v. Oklahoma and his role in the case. Notes: https://www.reedsmith.com/en/news/2023/03/reed-smith-glossip-investigation-releases-new-findings-evidence-withheld
This week, the guys take a step back from Oklahoma politics to explore a broader perspective on the major projects unfolding in Washington, D.C. Have a guest suggestion or feedback? Let us know at digital@ocpathink.org.
Tax expert and Senior Policy Analyst for the Tax Foundation, Manish Bhatt, joins the guys to talk about the complications, functions, and frustrations surrounding the property tax. To read about the REINS Act, check out this article from OCPAthink.org, "Effort to reduce state regulation gets bipartisan support"
Listen in as the guys discuss what to watch for in the upcoming legislative session and a few grassroots initiatives that you should probably keep an eye on.
The guys debrief the results of the recent election cycle, including Oklahoma voters' historic decision not to retain an Oklahoma Supreme Court justice. To read the article about judicial districts Ryan mentions, click this link. For more information on OCPA's judicial scorecard, click here.
Renowned law professor and former OCPA fellow Andy Spiropoulos sits down with the guys to talk about controversial workers' comp issues and related cases that Oklahoma's highest court has mishandled. Click here to read Andy Spiropoulos' article "Once More into the Breach: The Path to Effective Workers’ Compensation Reform in Oklahoma."
Ryan sits down with Ben Lepak to discuss a recent activist initiative to raise the minimum wage in Oklahoma and why it would be a bad move for the state.
The scores are in

The scores are in

2024-09-0946:06

Ahead of the upcoming November election, Curtis and Ryan discuss OCPA’s 2024 legislative scorecard and first-ever judicial scorecard. Click here to see the 2024 Legislative Scorecard. Click here to see OCPA’s Judicial Scorecard. To learn more about the lawsuit over the University of Oklahoma’s racist scholarship practices, click here.
Curtis and Ryan sit down with Dr. Brad Wilcox, Future of Freedom Fellow at the Institute for Family Studies and professor at the University of Virginia, to dive into his groundbreaking research on marriage and the family. They also discuss his new book, Get Married: Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge Strong Families, and Save Civilization.
Tennessee Wisdom

Tennessee Wisdom

2024-04-1737:44

Prof. Brian Fitzpatrick of Vanderbilt Law School talks to Ryan and Curtis about how Tennessee successfully changed its judicial nominating process—and why Oklahoma should do the same. They discuss the dangers of a bar-controlled court system and discuss what it would look like to allow the continuance of the Judicial Nominating Commission to be put to a state question. For more content on the truth and dangers of the JNC, listen to this popular episode with Ben Lepak; “Legislators In Black Ro...
Curtis and special guest Dr. Ben Carson discuss life lessons, role models, and the ever-changing climate of American politics. Listen in to hear Dr. Carson's thought-provoking perspectives on the country's education system, the doom of repeating history, and the reality of the human condition. Be sure to join us April 24th for OCPA's Citizenship Award dinner featuring former U.S. Secretary of Urban Housing and Development, 2016 presidential candidate, Dr. Ben Carson. For more information, c...
Susan B. Anthony

Susan B. Anthony

2024-03-1136:32

Curtis and Ryan discuss judicial reform in Oklahoma with Katie Daniel, Susan B. Anthony Pro Life America's state policy director, and unpack how Oklahoma's courts threaten the state's pro-life laws.
Tip of the Cap

Tip of the Cap

2023-12-1141:49

Curtis and Ryan talk about the new school choice tax credit and tease major legislative priorities for the upcoming session.
Never Ending Summer

Never Ending Summer

2023-07-2549:54

Curtis and Ryan talk about what's been happening in the legislature over the summer and what their own summer plans.
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Bill Pascoe

As a Boomer and also an OU fan (although I didn't attend OU), I did enjoy the podcast and look forward to more in state topics.

Feb 24th
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