Third Loop

Exploring how changing technology impacts users.

Ep. #12, Shipping at the Speed of Understanding with Steph Hippo

On episode 12 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team speaks with Steph Hippo, Platform Engineering Director at Honeycomb, about what happens when AI accelerates development beyond the pace humans can absorb. They explore safe defaults, evolving code reviews, and the feedback loops that help teams understand what they ship. Steph makes the case for reinvesting saved time in better decisions, software quality, and human connection.

09-22
47:00

Ep. #11, Durable Systems, Disposable Code with Chad Fowler

On episode 11 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team sits down with Chad Fowler to explore regenerative software and what architecture looks like when AI makes code cheap enough to continually replace. They discuss Phoenix Architecture, Pace Layers, observability, architectural constraints, and why the system itself, rather than any individual implementation, may become the real asset in an AI-native future.

08-25
50:56

Ep. #10, The System Is More Than the Code with Charity Majors

On episode 10 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team speaks with Honeycomb co-founder and CTO Charity Majors about observability, AI, and the changing economics of software development. They explore a future where code is increasingly disposable and regenerable while architecture, constraints, production behavior, and promises to users become the durable artifacts that matter. Along the way, Charity shares her perspective on responsible AI adoption, engineering in nondeterministic systems, and why production remains the ultimate source of truth.

08-12
36:37

Ep. #9, Constraints, Creativity, and Competition

On episode 9 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team explores the complicated relationship between AI, automation, and human creativity. Kim Harrison, Adam Zimman, and Heidi Waterhouse discuss AI’s ability to lower technical barriers and reduce toil, along with its tendency to strip away context, reinforce sameness, and confidently produce answers it does not understand. Along the way, they encounter whale dictionaries, ancient scrolls, AI-written memos, autonomous tractors, and the dangerously comfortable “Yes Bubble.”

07-28
38:07

Ep. #8, Sounds Like Alignment with Melinda Fekete

On episode 8 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team sits down with Melinda Fekete to discuss FeatureOps, developer experience, and modern software delivery. The conversation covers feature flag lifecycles, runtime control, experimentation, chaos engineering, and why progressive delivery is becoming even more important in the age of AI-assisted development.

07-14
40:24

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