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Author: Aliza Abarbanel & Matt Rodbard

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If you're a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City.

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Kiki Couchman is the cofounder of Sourmilk, a well-positioned yogurt company with more hustle than the average start-up. We found Sourmilk on social media and was impressed even before we tried the creamy and probiotic-rich yogurt. It’s good stuff, as is Kiki’s story about how she quit her finance job to start a yogurt company with her best friend—a refrain often repeated in Sourmilk’s savvy marketing. What’s it like bootstrapping in the highly competitive perishable consumer packaged goods world? This conversation is absolutely illuminating.      Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Michael W. Twitty is an acclaimed culinary historian and the author of the two-time James Beard Award–winning book The Cooking Gene as well as Rice and Koshersoul. His encyclopedic new book, Recipes from the American South, is a deeply researched, home cook’s guide to the vast genre of Southern cuisine, offering historical insight alongside a diverse array of recipes. It’s a delight having him on the show to talk about bringing this book to life.   And, at the top of the show, it’s the return of Three Things, where Aliza and Matt talk about what is exciting them in the world of restaurants, cookbooks, and the food world as a whole. On this episode: A visit to Ceres in New York. Is the pie worth the hype? Also, Long Island Bar is serving elite fried cheese curds, Michigan’s Madcap Coffee is one of America’s finest roasters, and sampling some great teas from Brooklyn’s Raazi Tea. Plus, Spicewalla is now selling Umbrian olive oil, and Big Night has a new uptown location. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nite Yun was born in a refugee camp after her parents escaped from war-torn Cambodia. Her family eventually moved to California, where she grew up listening to her father’s Khmer rock and roll music and learned to cook traditional Cambodian dishes from her mother. Inspired by trips to Cambodia to learn about her heritage, Nite dedicated herself to bringing the flavors of Cambodian food back to the Bay Area. She opened her first restaurant, Nyum Bai, in Oakland in 2018 and now runs Lunette, located in San Francisco’s Ferry Building. In this episode, we talk about Nite’s amazing journey and her terrific new cookbook, My Cambodia. It’s one of our favorites of this busy season, and we hear some great stories from the road. Also on the show, we have a really fun conversation with best-selling romance author Sarah MacLean. We talk about Rhode Island foods and what makes a great food scene in romance writing. What a fun talk! Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sean Sherman is an award-winning chef, educator, author, and activist. A member of the Oglala Lakota Sioux tribe, he is dedicated to reviving Indigenous food traditions through his Minneapolis restaurant Owamni, the nonprofit NATIFS, and cookbooks like the fantastic new book Turtle Island. Today on the show, we talk about the years of research that resulted in Turtle Island, decolonizing Indigenous food traditions, and much more. Also on the show Matt has a great conversation with Natalia Rudin, author of the new cookbook, Cooking Fast and Slow.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This one has been a long time coming! The one and only Alice Waters joins us in the studio for an amazing conversation. We naturally talk about her legacy at Chez Panisse, the pioneering restaurant in Berkeley, California, that opened in 1971 with California farmers front and center. There would be no farm-to-table movement without Alice. We also talk about her work bringing regenerative farming to school kitchens and her new book, A School Lunch Revolution.  Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Eric Wareheim is an actor, director, winemaker, and writer based in Los Angeles. You may know him as one half of the comedy duo behind the cult-followed Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!, but in recent years, he’s been making a foray into food and wine, starting with the New York Times Best Seller cookbook Foodheim. His new book, Steak House, chronicles his freewheeling, exhaustive search for the ultimate steak house. It’s a heady mix of recipes, interviews with legendary servers, and his own very funny essays—and today on the show, we go deep on his steak house fixation and reporting process.  And, at the top of the show, it’s the return of Three Things, where Aliza and Matt talk about what is exciting them in the world of restaurants, cookbooks, and the food world as a whole. On this episode: The Great Community Bake Sale is New York’s big weekend event, Katie Parla has a very cool new book out, Rome: A Culinary History, Cookbook, and Field Guide to the Flavors that Built a City, it’s soup season and Andy Baraghani’s Golden Potato and Greens Soup is a great option. Also, a recap from the fun Los Angeles Chef’s Conference, a visit to the Tiny Dollhouse Store, and Matt is heading to Korea. Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We’re taking a break from food conversations to highlight another love of ours: Great music. In ⁠Fela Kuti: Fear No Man⁠, Jad Abumrad—creator of Radiolab, More Perfect, and Dolly Parton’s America—tells the story of one of the great political awakenings in music: how a classically trained "colonial boy" traveled to America, in search of Africa, only to return to Nigeria and transform his sound into a battering ram against the state—creating a new musical language of resistance called Afrobeat. Subscribe to ⁠Fela Kuti: Fear No Man For years, the world’s biggest stars made pilgrimages to Nigeria to experience Fela’s Shrine, the epicenter of his musical revolution. But when the mix of art and activism got too hot, the state pulled out its guns, and literally opened fire. Fela Kuti: Fear No Man is an uncategorizable mix of oral history, musicology, deep dive journalism, and cutting edge sound design that takes listeners deep inside Fela’s life, music, and legacy. Drawing from over 200 interviews with Fela Kuti’s family, friends, as well as scholars, activists, and luminaries like Burna Boy, Paul McCartney, Questlove, Santigold, and former President Barack Obama (just to name a few), Fela Kuti: Fear No Man journeys deep into the soul of Afrobeat to explore the transformative power of art and the role artists can play in this current moment of global unrest. An Audible Original presented by Audible and Higher Ground. Produced by Western Sound and Talkhouse. ©2025 Higher Ground, LLC (P)2025 Audible Originals, LLC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jon Bonné is Resy’s managing editor, and the author of The New French Wine and other books, and a winner of awards from most major food organizations. We always love having Jon in the studio, and today we talk in detail about the Resy 100, a decisive and illuminating list of restaurants around the United States that define dining today. The list has a very strong point of view and highlights restaurants in both big cities and smaller communities that serve exceptional food that might be alternately comforting and daring, traditional and completely new. It’s a fantastic list, and we cover many of the entries while also zooming out to discuss interesting examples of Mexican cuisine, the New Nordic moment, and, naturally, the modern wine bar scene. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers – not of Resy—and do not constitute professional advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It’s the return of Food Writers Talking About Food Writing. Every couple of weeks, Matt invites a journalist to talk about some favorite recent food writing as well as their thoughts on the industry as a whole. In today’s episode, we have a great conversation with Nikita Richardson. Nikita is an editor in the Food section of The New York Times and the creator of the “Where to Eat: New York City” newsletter, The Times’s first newsletter dedicated to restaurant coverage. We talk about Nikita’s newsletter and feature writing, life as an editor at The Times, and college football naturally comes up too. It was such a fun time having one of food media’s leading voices on the show.  Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Featured on the episode: Bring Back the Coffee Shop Tip Jar Even if it’s Digital [NY Mag] This TikTok Food Trend Is More Than 10,000 Years Old [NYT] Fellas, Is It Cheugy to Make a Mug Cake? [Best Food Blog] Tony Shalhoub Will Travel for Bread [NYT] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jesse Burgess is behind Topjaw, the wildly popular, restaurant-centric social media account covering the food scene in London and beyond. Jesse is also the host of a cool new series on Apple TV+ called Knife Edge: Chasing Michelin Stars, which is streaming now. The show follows several restaurants, including Coqodaq, Nōksu, and the Musket Room (in New York) and Feld and Esmé (in Chicago), as they sweat it out during Michelin Guide season. Jesse reveals how he views these star-worthy restaurants and what it’s like being at the center of food influencing.    Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Rosie Grant is the creator of Ghostly Archive, a project documenting the real-life phenomenon of recipes inscribed on tombstones in cemeteries around the world. After years of seeking out these immortalized dishes, she’s released a truly singular cookbook, To Die For: A Cookbook of Gravestone Recipes. Today on the show, we chat about the project, creating the book, and some of Rosie’s favorite gravestone recipes. Also on the show, Matt catches up with Vanessa Anderson, known widely online as Grocery Goblin. Vanessa writes a terrific Substack and posts video clips on social media, all in celebration of international grocery stores. Vanessa is based in Los Angeles, home to a great grocery store scene, and we talk about her work and some of her favorite places to shop. Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This one is a long time coming, and we’re thrilled to welcome Joshua McFadden to the studio. Joshua is a chef based in Oregon and the author of one of the most beloved cookbooks of all time, Six Seasons. He’s back with a new one that is equally incredible. Six Seasons of Pasta takes the same six-seasons principle (discussed in the episode) to pasta cookery, and it might just break your brain. We talk about some simple tricks for cooking pasta at home before digging into Joshua’s career, his consulting work, and the kale salad, something that he’s (unbelievably) credited with inventing. No, for real, you gotta stick around for the kale salad update.  Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jonathan Nunn is the London-based founder and coeditor of Vittles, a food and culture newsletter based in the UK and India. Vittles is a singular source for incisive writing about contemporary food culture, from deep dives to restaurant reviews, and it’s a pleasure to have Jonathan in the studio to talk about what’s shaping its ever-growing coverage.  And, at the top of the show, it’s the return of Three Things, where Aliza and Matt talk about what is exciting them in the world of restaurants, cookbooks, and the food world as a whole. On this episode: A great visit to Elbow Bakery, Eng’s Restaruant in Kingston, NY is all mid-century vibes and a Chinese-American gem, Russian Samovar makes for a real NYC evening, we made the Hetty tomato salad, Heydoh is a great new soy sauce, remembering journalist Marian Burros.    Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Antoni Porowski is best known as the food and wine expert on the Netflix series Queer Eye, which will be airing its final season later this year. He’s a best-selling author and the host of a terrific food travel show, No Taste Like Home. Matt joined him onstage at the Traverse City Food & Wine festival for an amazing conversation. The event was hosted by the National Writers Series, a terrific organization bringing authors to stages around Traverse City, Michigan. Also on the show we have a really great conversation with Lindsey Baruch, author of the new book Something Delicious. Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠      Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It’s the return of a special video podcast series: Food Writers Talking About Food Writing. It’s available on the TASTE YouTube channel, so make sure to subscribe and check out the video version of this podcast. Every couple of weeks, Matt invites a journalist to talk about some favorite recent food writing as well as their thoughts on the industry as a whole. In today’s episode, we have a great conversation with Elyse Inamine. Elyse is a journalist who worked at Tasting Table and Food & Wine before serving as restaurants editor at Bon Appétit. She’s also the coauthor of For the Love of Kewpie: A Cookbook and Celebration, which, as the name suggests, is a celebration of one of the world’s finest condiments. We talk about Elyse’s journalism career and book work before digging into some of her recent stories. 🎥 Check out the full episode on YouTube! Featured on the episode: A $35 Chicken Dinner in Mississippi? How New York Prices Went National.⁠ [NYT]⁠ Hawai’i the Local Way⁠ [Bon Appetit] ⁠A Legendary Hell’s Kitchen Hellhole Is Back From the Dead⁠ [Grub Street] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Today we have a really great episode where we go behind the scenes with two incredible chefs, Sara Kramer and Sarah Thompson. Sara Kramer is co-chef and co-owner of Kismet in Los Angeles, a restaurant that blends Mediterranean and Californian sensibilities flawlessly. Kismet has been a go-to for LA diners for nearly a decade, and we talk about her Resy Standby status.  Sarah Thompson is the chef at Casa Playa in Las Vegas, a gem of a coastal Mexican restaurant that really impressed me on a recent visit. We talk about Sarah’s work at Cosme in New York that eventually led her to Las Vegas. What’s it like cooking in such a high-octane environment? We find out. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers – not of Resy—and do not constitute professional advice.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
David Lebovitz is a cookbook author and pastry chef based in Paris. After spending 13 years in the pastry kitchen at the legendary Chez Panisse, he embarked on a prolific blogging and cookbook writing career. His latest is an all-new edition of the classic Ready for Dessert, a revised and expanded collection. It’s so fun to talk with David about life and pastries in Paris and about updating this classic book. And before that Matt, along with the show’s lead producer Clayton, laced up their shoes to run the inaugural New York City Bakery Half Marathon. They have a field report from all those miles, and all that laminated pastry dough while visiting 8 bakeries around NYC over the course of the run.   Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ruby Tandoh is a writer and baker based in London. A finalist on season four of The Great British Bake Off, she’s written several smart and singular books, including the fantastic new book All Consuming: Why We Eat the Way We Eat Now. It’s an incredible exploration of taste as a social construct that traces the historic and cultural context behind contemporary food culture. Today on the show, we go deep on Ruby’s research and reporting process, plus her take on where we’re at in food culture today. Also on the show Aliza and Matt talk about some exciting fall cookbooks landing in bookstores soon. These include: Linger: Salads, Sweets and Stories to Savor: A Cookbook, Measure with Your Heart: Southern Home Cooking to Feed Your Family and Soul, Padma's All American: Tales, Travels, and Recipes from Taste the Nation and Beyond, Good Things, Bad Bitch In the Kitchen, Something from Nothing, Everything's Good: Cozy Classics You'll Cook Always and Forever. Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Fardad Khayami, the chef-owner of Muse in Santa Monica, has a really great story. Raised in London, and a restaurant fan basically from birth, Fardad attended University of Southern California and started hosting his own pop-up dinners, first for friends and then for ticket holders. The waiting list reached over 6,000 names, and he eventually channeled that love for hospitality into his own restaurant—all before the age of 25. Muse is creative, a little cheffy, and a name to remember. We talk about Fardad’s journey and one crazy first year of operating. At the top of the show, Eric Valdez completes the Resy Questionnaire. Eric is the chef at Naks, a high-energy Filipino restaurant in New York’s East Village. We talk about food movies, dream dinner parties, and the best pizza in NYC. It’s part of a new segment where Resy’s editors, writers, and partner chefs will share compelling stories and discuss the latest in food and dining culture. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers – not Resy - and do not constitute professional advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jake Cohen returns to the studio for a really fun conversation. Jake’s a talented cookbook author who is most certainly in the modern social media mix. His new book, Dinner Party Animal, is honestly a joy to read. It offers complete party plans with recipes in the Jake Cohen style—smart, a little sweaty, and with fun and creativity at the center. We talk about what makes a great party and how to think creatively while in the heat of a dinner party kitchen. Also on the show, Aliza catches up with Griffin Owens and Basil Beshkov of YUZUCO, an exciting food brand importing Japanese citrus that has often ended up in some of our favorite bakery pastries and cocktails.   Subscribe to This Is TASTE: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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