This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

META's plan to unleash AI Bots onto their social media sites is just a first step into the majority of the content we engage with being synthetic. The boys have more thoughts on this. How involved will Elon be with TikTok's future? More works are headed to the public domain, including Popeye and TinTin. Is there an opportunity for brands here? Finally, the boys discuss the fastest growing marketing roles. Winners and losers include AI-free and NFL red zone. Rants and raves include the Michael Lewis podcast and Pornhub. ----- This week's links: TikTok's CEO and Elon Talk Popeye and TinTin to Public Domain Meta's Plan to Unleash AI Bots Fastest Growing Marketing Roles Greg Isenberg's AI Predictions NFL Red Zone and Commercials Against the Rules Podcast Pornhub Blocked in South ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

A very special This Old Marketing Predictions' episode. Not only do we cover our 2025 predictions of: Where will Bluesky Be? The Future of X X Buys Truth Social GENAI Stumbles Four (4) Trillion Dollars Companies in 2025 The 2025 Disease We All Saw Coming TikTok Will Not Be Banned The Donald Trump Presidency The Failure of Podcasts But we review our 2024 predictions as well as our NFL season-review predictions. How did we score? Listen to find out. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

As we head into 2025, we look back on the crazy year that was 2024. What did we learn? What were the major marketing and life trends? Topics include: Going after that shiny (AI) object. Podcasts and can they even be successful anymore. Forgiveness in 2024 Forget influencers. Invest in your creators. And many more. You don't want to miss this special episode. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

This week we break down Pew research on the Big Four in social media as it pertains to the youth of America. You may be surprised which four platforms they are...and...are you there? We look at the opportunities and challenges ahead. What are the most overhyped marketing strategies for 2024? I bet you can guess number one. Winners and losers include the Pivot podcast and McKinsey. Rants and raves include the OpenAI Santa and Sesame Street. ------ This week's links: Teen Social Media Research from Pew The Most Overhyped Marketing Strategies of 2024 Content Creators Find a Place in Newsrooms Pivot's New Deal McKinsey Pays OpenAI and Santa Mode MAX Kills Sesame Street ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The first ever This Old Marketing where both Robert and Joe are NOT recording at the same time. If anything, you'll get a kick out of this episode for that reason. TikTok is in the news again. Does the impending ban and their emergency motion mean anything at all? Ad giant Omnicom merges with Interpublic in a $13 billion dollar deal. And OpenAI releases Sora, increasing the fight over generative AI video. Winners and losers include print catalogs and the Starbucks origin story. Rants and raves include an article from The Australian and the idea of change in content marketing. ------ This week's links: TikTok Files Emergency Motion Ad Giant Omnicom's Big Deal OpenAI Releases Sora Print Catalogs on the Rise Il Giornale and Starbucks Mission Letter Can Businesses Build Human-Centric Tech? ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys are back with a regular episode this week! In big social media news, the Australian government plans to ban social media for children 16 or under. Could this actually work or is this a bluff? Black Friday is bigger than ever, with TikTok showing its retail teeth. Could TikTok actually be Amazon's biggest competitor? And Bluesky continues to hit on all cylinders. But will it last? Marketing winners include direct book sales and Jaguar. Rants and raves include ChatGPT for travel and the Elvis documentary. ------ This week's links: Australia to Ban Social Media Black Friday Hits Record Is TikTok Ready to Take on Amazon? What is Bluesky? Hat's off to Jaguar Louis Grenier's Book Launch Plan The Taylor Swift Direct Model ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Another very special episode of This Old Marketing...this time, without Robert Rose. Yes...this episode features Joe Pulizzi talking about unconventional content marketing strategies for 2025. Joe discusses how to leverage ChatGPT for persona building, treating employees as creators, leveraging more email and physical events, a big yes to print and much, much more. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special This Old Marketing podcast episode featuring the one and only Robert Rose (with no Joe Pulizzi).  In this special solo episode, Robert takes a deep dive into the state of marketing as we approach the end of 2024. As marketers, we’ve spent the last 25 years adapting to paradigm-shifting technologies — from the internet and social media to mobile computing. But now, we’re navigating the latest disruptor: Generative AI. Robert explores the concept of "Valuable Friction," the deliberate resistance that slows us down, fostering critical thinking and creativity. In an industry obsessed with efficiency and automation, are we losing the joy and creativity that make marketing truly impactful? This episode challenges the status quo and asks: Are we outsourcing our human spark to technology, or are we using it to amplify our creative potential? ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In this special episode Robert and Joe ask each other four secret questions. The answers will surprise you. The boys cover investing, travel, biggest regrets, bigger dreams and what's next in marketing and beyond. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The boys do a debrief of why Donald Trump beat Kamala Harris in the 2024 Presidential election. We can talk policies and character, but it's possible the Trump campaign outmarketed Harris. Winners and losers include Goldfish Crackers and the Nomad Capitalist. Rants and raves include ChatGPT Search and the Content Creator/Influencer. ------ This week's links: A Trump Second Term Will Trump Ban TikTok? Goldfish Crackers and Marketing The Nomad Capitalist ChatGPT Search ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A continuing story on the content gaps available in local news. With more people trusting businesses than ever before, could this be the biggest content marketing opportunity in history? In other news, The Washington Post makes a horrible strategic decision to kill endorsements, costing them over 200,000 subscribers. Microsoft, Google and Apple report incredible earnings on the back of AI. And young TikTok influencers are finding it hard to maintain a real life while being an online content creator. Is the worst to come? Winners and losers include Strauss and the Dallas Cowboys. Rants and raves include another newsletter acquisition and ghost jobs. ------ This week's links: Washington Posts Kills Endorsements Local News Content Gap Microsoft Earnings Grow TikTok High School Influencers The NFL Goes Simpsons Strauss Sponsorship with MLB Another Newsletter Acquisition Ghost Jobs ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.    

The boys go deep into CMI's 2025 content marketing research report. While the results look pretty similar to last year's report, Joe and Robert offer some prescriptions for 2025 content marketing strategies, including: Think more local in 2025 Who's your "with"? Paid promotion of content for the win Less is more Time to kill some things Let's get risky in 2025 See the full research here. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects and customers. And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send your revenue soaring.  - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.    

The boys are back with breaking news. Semrush, the online visibility company, purchases Search Engine Land and MarTech (plus all the conferences). Is this the start of acquisition season? Americans' trust in media sinks to an all-time low. Or did it? Actually, there's a big opportunity for content marketers here. TikTok's own research reveals it's hurting kids. What are we going to do about it? And author James Patterson launches a new channel on, of all places, Substack. Winners and losers include Nick Chubb, Apple's killing of social apps and content creator deaths. Rants and raves include Steven Pressfield and an AI article. This week's links: Semrush Acquires Third Door Media Americans' Trust at All-Time Low TikTok's Horrible New Research James Patterson Launches Substack Nick Chubb Tells All Did Apple Kill Social Apps? Content Creator Falls to Death AI Is Going to Kill Advertising ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects and customers. And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send your revenue soaring.  - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.    

Joe and Robert unpack Google's NotebookLM and how the AI audio machine has taken over the internet. Listen to the sample and see if you think it's usable. In other Google news, the DOJ is trying to break up Google into smaller pieces for better competition. This happens at the same time Google is losing its strength in the search market. And someone used Meta's glasses to instantly dox strangers. Should we be scared? Yes...yes we should. Winners and losers include Mountain Dew and Wordpress. Rants and raves include TikTok and CMI's latest benchmark study. This week's links: Google's Notebook LM Google Faces the DOJ Google's Domination as Search Leader Going Away? Meta's Glasses Used to Dox Strangers Mountain Dew's New Brand WordPress Community In Trouble? TikTok Sued Again ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects and customers. And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send your revenue soaring.  - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  

A special episode of This Old Marketing where Joe and Robert answer AI and content marketing questions from some of the world leaders of marketing.  Find your answers to content marketing spending, how AI is affecting content marketing, advice for new marketers, how to handle a personal brand in a business, how much to invest into internal content creators and much, much more. Special thanks to our marketing experts: Drew Davis Katie Brinkley Mark Schaefer Rob LaLacheur Ann Handley Brian Piper Michael Stelzner A. Lee Judge ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects and customers. And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send your revenue soaring.  - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Our old friend Leon rolls back another X feature and the haters go crazy. At the same time, X releases their Global Transparency Report (which is anything but transparent). The New York Times unveils a plan to sell audio subscriptions via Apple Music and Spotify. The boys aren't sure the plan has merit (uh, data concerns anyone?). And The Onion creates a membership program with a print newspaper at the center. Joe is very happy about this. Winners and losers include Tim Walz and LinkedIn's AI rollout. Rants and raves include new books from Brian Piper and Pam Didner and a Dreamforce appearance from John Mulaney. ----- This week's links: X and Blocked Users X's Global Transparency Report New York Times to Sell Pod Subs Why the Onion Launched a Membership Program Tim Walz's YouTube Show ----- This week's sponsor: Grow better, faster with Hubspot's all-in-one intuitive customer platform - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

OpenAI launches the "Strawberry" version within ChatGPT claiming better reasoning and complex thinking. Joe and Robert take it to the test. TikTok heads back to court with a January 19th ban date looming. Joe predicts what will happen. And Instagram launches a version for teens only. Is it enough? Finally, MrBeast "leaks" his personal YouTube production manual. Is there gold within? Winners and losers include Sun Studio and the 2024 Content Marketing Award winner. Rants and raves include MAICON's headsets and CMI's marketing career study. ----- This week's links: OpenAI's Strawberry Is Scary Good at Deception TikTok Goes to Court Inst Launches Teen Accounts MrBeast's Playbook Uncovered MrBeast: How to Succeed at YouTube Playbook ----- This week's sponsor: Grow better, faster with Hubspot's all-in-one intuitive customer platform - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  

In this special episode, Joe and Robert talk about the future of AI in marketing and how each of them use AI for both content creation and marketing ideation. ----- This week's sponsor: Grow better, faster with Hubspot's all-in-one intuitive customer platform - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden Administration pressured Facebook to censor COVID comments while Elon Musk gets X banned in Brazil. In better news, the Kelce brothers land a $100 million dollar deal with Amazon. The boys talk about how the licensing model has changed in just the past two years. Winners and losers include Mammoth Cave National Park and Yelp. Rants and raves include LEGO and Adweek. ----- This week's links: Zuck's Words Against Biden Brazil Bans X Kelce's Deal with Amazon Mammoth Cave on Facebook Yelp's Case Against Google Search Fragmentation on Adweek LEGO's Big Jump ----- This week's sponsor: Grow better, faster with Hubspot's all-in-one intuitive customer platform - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

We have all the answers for what's going to happen in the NFL this year. This special episode includes: 2024 New Kickoff Rules AFC/NFC Top 4 and Championships Super Bowl and Who Wins Cowboys and Browns Final Records MVP Prediction And a final bet you don't want to miss. ----- This week's sponsor: Get the latest marketing trends in AI today. Download for free at Hubspot.com/ai-marketing. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.