Thoroughly Good Classical Music Podcast

Jon Jacob talks to artists, writers, and audience members about classical music.

213: Conductor Alice Farnham

In this episode, conductor Alice Farnham is working with English Touring Opera in September and October in performances of The Elixir of Love and Britten's Rape of Lucretia. The productions pop up in a variety of different locations across England. Visit the ETO website for more details. When she and I met for this podcast interview, I provided a provocation. I'd seen something short and surprisingly thought-provoking on Instagram a week before inviting exploration of the definition of trust. Specifically the notion that trust is the active engagement of the unknown. I saw connections with the work of performers of all kinds, indeed even those in the audition if you've an especially imaginative mind. I put the idea to Alice before the interview. The result was thought-prpvoking. Here she talks candidly about what it takes to bring an opera to life — from building trust with singers and directors, to handling nerves before that very first rehearsal. She reflects on how rehearsal culture has changed, the unseen work of conductors, and the challenges of adapting Italian opera into English. We start with the mechanics and meeting the musicians for the first time.

09-26
45:26

212: Composer Julian Anderson

In this episode, composer Julian Anderson discusses his new work Life Cycle, to be premiered by Birmingham Contemporary Music Group in September 2025. Conducted by Stephan Meier, and featuring soprano Anna Dennis, the concert also includes Charlotte Bray’s Reflections in Time and the premiere of Serpentine by Birmingham composer Marcus Rock.At the heart of this conversation, though, is Anderson’s Life Cycle: eight songs that span English, French, Spanish, German and Gaelic traditions, exploring themes of identity, memory, belonging, life and death. For Julian, it’s both a deeply personal project – shaped by family, friendship, and loss – and a vision of music that travels freely beyond nationality. It’s also a project that began life in an unusually unexpected way.We also talk about the early encouragement that set him on the path to composing, how musicology sharpened his creativity, and why he believes memory and play sit at the core of everything he writes.Our conversation was recorded on a hot Bank Holiday Monday in August, at a busy Southbank Centre in London.

09-16
45:13

211: Trumpeter Matilda Lloyd

Trumpeter Matilda Lloyd releases her third album on the Chandos Label featuring four premiere recordings by Roxanna Panufnik, Richard Barbard, Deborah Pritchard and Owain Park, alongside transcriptions of music by Johan Sebastian Bach, Martini, and Johann Ludwig Kreps. Matilda is an invigorating presence on the classical music scene, combining her craft with an astute eye for social media content that avoids aesthetics, pays deference, and is useful all at the same time. It takes a certain kind of person to achieve all of that. You'll get a sense of what that is in this interview recorded in May 2025.

09-09
30:58

210: BBC Proms Director and Radio 3 Controller Sam Jackson

Audiences. Strategy. Credibility. What does cultural leadership in classical music look like when credibility is tested by data? Sam Jackson - Radio 3 Controller and BBC Proms Director - talks to Jon Jacob about Radio 3's new sound, recent listening figures (have they been spun or are they actually improving?), strategy, and his role as an audience-facing leader in a changing BBC challenged by funding, budget cuts, and future monetisation plans.

08-23
36:41

209: Three Choirs Festival

Composers Richard Blackford and Gavin Higgins return to the Thoroughly Good Classical Music Podcast talking about the Three Choirs Festival where Higgins has just been announced new Associate Composer. Blackford's new work The Black Lake premiered there. Also featuring CEO David Francis. Music: organist Oliver Latry's Festival improvisation in Hereford Cathedral.

07-29
26:30

208: Pianist Hanni Lang

Hello Grab a pillow and lay down. Drift off. Allow yourself to dream. Such overt direction wouldn't normally feature in a Thoroughly Good Podcast introduction, but its fitting for this one with pianist Hanni Liang who, ever the experimenter with concert formats, tests out an element of her forthcoming Edinburgh Festival appearance on me in a bit of a podcast first. Liang combines a performance of Debussy Reverie with audience-led improvisation at The Hub as part of Edinburgh International Festival this year, inviting people to share their dreams so that she can improvise on the ideas that emerge from it. She does the same here with me. It's only really since recording this that I've come to understand what my recurring dream really is about - in its simplest terms its to do with the panic of time running out. And now, having understood that, it is phenomenally disappointing to realise I've been having this same dream for as long as I can remember. Even so, I've not had it since recording this episode. There is then a therapeutic impact to Hanni's work. More than that, Hanni's candid reflections on the experience of improvisation isn't that far from a theme stitched through recent episodes - leadership qualities, and specifically in this case, the need for and the experience of vulnerability.

07-25
30:26

207: Pianist Mariam Batsashvili

Georgian pianist Mariam Batsashvili shares her journey from student to international artist. She reflects on her roots in Georgia’s rich musical culture, her transformative experience as a BBC New Generation Artist, and the thrill of returning to the Royal Albert Hall. Mariam discusses the emotional depth of Liszt’s music, recounts how reading Dante at 13 shaped her interpretation of his Fantasia quasi Sonata, and explores the spiritual dimension of performance

07-20
20:55

206: Wigmore Hall's John Gilhooly

London chamber music venue Wigmore Hall stages something in the region of 600 events a year. That’s partly why its season brochure stretches to 206 pages — and that’s just for September to December 2025. A weighty piece of print that, for some (myself included), reads more like a guaranteed programme of discovery. An in depth syllabus. A prospectus. The new season sees the usual draw of international artists and homegrown talent: Christian Tetzlaff, Igor Levit, Les Arts Florissants, Dunedin Consort, Mitsuko Uchida, Martha Argerich, Stephen Kovacevich, the Kanneh-Masons, Hugh Cutting, Solomon’s Knot — and a debut from a previous Thoroughly Good Podcastee, Danish cellist Jonathan Swensen, whom I met way back when I was in Armenia for the Khachaturian Cello Competition.To appear at Wigmore is a reflection of the place you hold in the industry as a communicator. So why wouldn’t you make a beeline to go there — to hear the very best, and to hear that which you wouldn’t normally hear?This is not a promo for Wigmore Hall even if it does sound like it, its simply an articulation of a special home, a musical destination which stirs something inside whenever I find myself walking down Wigmore Street and I catch sight of that distinctive canopy. Such a prestigious stage and reputation carries with it a considerable weight of responsibility, surely. How could it not?What does it take to run one of the world’s busiest classical music venues?In this candid conversation, John Gilhooly reflects on the complexity of his role at Wigmore Hall — a job he describes as a “seven-day liability.” From last-minute artist cancellations to long-term fundraising goals, Gilhooly shares how he balances tradition with innovation, protects artistic standards, and fosters a spirit of welcome across every part of the organisation.It’s a rare, unguarded look at what it really means to lead in the arts today — from someone who’s done it, against the odds, for nearly two decades.

07-11
40:48

205: Composer Daniel Kidane

Four years after the premiere of ‘Woke’ at the BBC Proms in 2021, composer Daniel Kidane is riding high, this year Composer in Residence at the 2025 Aldeburgh Festival. Kidane reflects on his training, his mindset for composing, and what’s changed (or not) since the work that promoted empathy, compassion and togetherness. The BBC Symphony Orchestra performs Woke (now named Awake) at the Aldeburgh Festival alongside a whole host of other works by Kidane.

06-12
30:27

204: Britten Sinfonia at Addenbrooke's Hospital

In this episode, Jon Jacob joins Britten Sinfonia and medical professionals at Addenbrooke’s Hospital in Cambridge to explore how live music brings moments of connection and calm in clinical settings. Recorded during hospital visits, the conversation reveals how music supports recovery and emotional wellbeing in the most challenging of environments.

06-05
22:41

203: Composer Oliver Davis introduces his new album 'Life'

This episode spotlights contemporary classical composer Oliver Davis talking about his new album Life. Davis writes music that makes a montage of your own life. Had author Augesten Burroughs had access to Davis he'd have had access to soundtracks that would have consoled and celebrated the very life BUrroughs ended up documenting in Running with Scissors. Davis brings his experience writing music for TV to scores that elevate real life. His newest album is dedicated to his father, first violin in the Alberni Quartet, who had a close association with Benjamin Britten and the Aldeburgh Festival. In this episode we talk about Howard's introduction to the violin, his work, Oliver's work writing music for TV and the scores and production that make up Life, a project which also features the pupil his father introduced Oliver to at the Royal Academy, violinist Kerensa Peacock.

05-28
32:25

202: Bristol Beacon CEO Simon Wales

Bristol Beacon CEO Simon Wales reflects on leadership, legacy, and launching the 2025/26 orchestral season. We talk classical music, innovation, and why Bristol deserves its place as one of the UK’s great music cities.

05-14
41:53

201: Britten Pears Arts CEO Andrew Comben

Andrew Comben, Chief Executive of Britten Pears Arts, reflects on leading an organisation where legacy, place, and innovation intersect. We explore the 2025 Aldeburgh Festival, the return of Festival Extra, and how collaboration across the sector is vital to sustaining new artistic work.

04-30
34:33

200: Mezzo-soprano Jennifer Johnston

Some people raise the bar just by walking into the room. Mezzo Soprano and Creative Consultant Jennifer Johnston is one of them. We talk about her award-winning creative work during the pandemic, her journey from barrister to singer, and her latest collaboration with the London Transport Museum — recorded at the Southbank Centre ahead of Mahler 8 with the LPO.

04-25
41:58

199: Horn Player Martin Owen

Following a stunning opening concert in Manchester Camerata's new Mozart series, horn player Martin Owen talks about Mozart's Horn Concertos, working with Camerata, and a 30-year career spanning many of the UK's leading orchestras. Owen is warm, playful and generous, and that is reflected in his captivating performance. His is an instantly likeable sound on stage, one that conveys an infectious sense of confidence in performance. Little wonder performance. He fell in love with the sound of the horn at 3 years old. I rigorously checked out his story, of course. His follow up concert with Manchester Camerata is on 23 May 2025 in Stoller Hall.

04-21
48:11

198: Pianist Jan Lisiecki

Jan returns to the podcast after what we both reckon is probably around 12 years. He remains, as I dimly recall from a sunny day in Verbier, candid, down to earth, and completely and utterly absorbed by his craft. But what’s evident now — and what I definitely don’t remember sensing then — is his resolute vision: a clear sense of what he wants to do, and how he wants to do it. It’s reflected not only in his achievements, but also in the relative ease with which he articulates that vision. There’s a precision in what he says, and a solid sense of trust in what he does.

04-07
36:08

197: Industrial-scale Mental Housekeeping (with Brahms)

How successfully can AI underscore a day-to-day experience like grief? Or reading a book? Or even work as a coach? It turns out surprisingly well. Far better than the pearl-clutching naysayers. 11 minutes accompanied by Brahms. All very Thoroughly Good.

04-05
11:59

196: Conductor Mark Wigglesworth

In this podcast Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra Chief Conductor discusses his view on leadership, the role he plays as a leader conducting an orchestra, and how he's developed that role in the 30 plus years of his career to date.

03-17
41:18

195: Soprano Ana Beard Fernandez

30 minutes of chat with Manchester born soprano Ana Beard Fernandez ahead of her new album - Habanera including music by Villa Lobos, Ravel, de Falla, Shostakovich and Rameau on the SOMM label featuring the Endellion Cellists, Roderick Williams, and conductor William Vann. In addition ... because it worked so well in the last episode, a book, a film and a recipe.

03-11
33:00

194: Pianist Emmanuel Despax

Pianist Emmanuel Despax reflects on his deep connection to music, the emotional power of performance, and his upcoming concerts with the Bechstein Trio at Bechstein Hall in Spring 2025

02-28
46:16

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