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NFL takes and topical tangents for football nerds, casual sports fans & the culture since 2016. Touchdowns and Tangents balances real life experience with the most cultural and concise commentary from the week's football news. Since 2016, the weekly podcast features live football news breakdowns along with live guest interviews. Pete D. Camarillo and Kenneth Frank host the syndicated podcast from Los Angeles. Featured guests include athletes, journalists, entrepreneurs and other people at the intersection of sports and culture. Our archives don't lie. Find out more at
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Phil Jones from Unphiltered Truth Alex Clancy from Locked on Cardinals Eric Lambkins from Culver City Observer#LetsTalkAboutItBroncos sign Russell Wilson to 5-year $245 million contract. $165 million guaranteedBills tight end Dawson Knox agrees 4-year $53.6 million Saints C Erik McCoy agree to 5-year extension worth $63.7M and over $40M in guarantees.Rams tackle Havenstein's extension is worth $34.5M ($24.1M guaranteedNFL teams cut their rosters down to 53.Notable cuts: Raiders cut former 1st-round pick Alex LeatherwoodJimmy Garapolo contract extension and clauses as highest paid backup QB#CollegeFootballJackson State without water after massive flood in Mississippi. in Mississippi has been an issue. got $3.3 billion to fix their water sanitation problem. Swinney gets 10-year $115 million contract extension #TakeOrTangentMarcus Maye road rage incidentHarold Landry years ACLManning Cast is backRavens mascot injures knee, done for the year#TouchdownOrTurnoverLamar Jackson contract deadline to Ravens is Friday Derrick Henry contract restructuring, gets $2 million raiseVikings trade for Jaelon ReagorzRaiders cut Alex Leatherwood & Bears got him off Raiders trading Trayvon Mullen to Cardinals#UnnecessaryToughnessRantsIf you or a colleague will be discussing the best ways to host a football gathering, you might consider including the Heineken 5L mini keg. It’s the only CO2-powered mini keg on the market, holds about 10 pints, and stays fresh for 25 days – not that you’ll keep it around for that long. And it’s affordable, coming in at around $25. The Heineken mini keg is available at local retailers around the country including Total Wine, Drizly, and more. #Sponsored #heinekein
#letstalkaboutitBig Ben retiresNFLPA bowl practice week recapBears hire Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus as Head CoachSean Payton steps down as Saints head coachJeff Fisher hired as coach of the USFL Michigan Panthers Denver Broncos hire Packers offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett as head coachKwesi Adofo-Mensah Agrees to Contract as Vikings GM Replacing Rick Spielman#CollegeFootballNewsUSC transfer Jaxson Dart admitted as a student at Ole MissJackson State QB Shedaur Sanders first college athlete to get a Gatorade NIL dealKurt Warner’s son commits to TempleOklahoma State hires Derek Mason as it’s defensive coordinator Miami ditches turnover chain USC got 8 transfersGeorgia wide receiver Jermaine Burton transfers to Alabama#TakeOrTangentNFL divisional roundBacklash over overtime rulesAB speaks on Bucs controversy and mental health#TouchdownOrTurnoverSuh really hates Stafford for some reasonLes Miles wanted J’Marr Chase as a cornerback coming out of high school. Les said he wouldn’t make it as a receiverAB wants to play with Lamar Jackson#UnnecessaryToughness
Kenny and Pete talk the latest NFL, College football and pop culture news through a journalistic lens with comedic execution live at 8:30 p.m.Main topics of the night1. NFL Divisional round playoffs2. NFL draft news3. Postseason predictionsCollege Football News1. Transfer portal2. Todd Graham resigns as Hawaii football coach#TouchdownOrTurnover and #TakeOrTangent1. Transgender athlete participation reform by the NCAA. 2. Will the NCAA use Title 9 to create transgender subdivisions to not erase biological women and their records?
#LetsTalkAboutIt1. Raiders/Chargers season finale and implications2. Local and National NFL news#CollegeFootballNews1. Georgia clapped Alabama in the title game2. Latest transfer news#TakeOrTangent1. NFL coach firings2. Brandon Staley #TouchdownOrTurnover1. Kenny’s brain malfunctioning all episode2. Super Bowl relocation rumors #UnnecessaryToughnessRants
#LetsTalkAboutItAntonio Brown AnkleGateFantasy football championshipsPlayoff picture M#CollegeFootballNewsKirk Herbstreit’s bullshit takeNational Championship Derek Stingley Jr declares for draftMichigan draft declarations Transfers: Caleb Williams #TakeOrTangentUSFL hires four new coaches. Tomlin has zero losing seasons in 15 years#TouchdownOrTurnoverMike Zimmer not wanting Kellen Mond to play with Kirk Cousins out with Covid vs PackersJournalist not voting Aaron Rodgers MVP cuz of his not getting vaccinated #UnnecessaryToughnessRants
#LetsTalkAboutItRIP John Madden, Raiders and football legendDivision/playoffs pictureHall of Fame finalists for the modern era: end of the year football moments#CollegeFootballNews5 bowl games canceled UCLA controversy over how they backed out of the Holiday bowl last minute vs North Carolina StateSEC 1-5 in bowl season play. Mountains West 5-0 in bowl play. Record for their conferenceDakereon Joyner, WR, South Carolina: 9-of-9, 160 yards, one touchdown; 10 carries, 64 yards. Shane Beamer gets a Mayo bath#TakeOrTangentPatriots running back Brandon Bolden admits he had cancer in 2018Trent Williams also opens up about beating his terminal cancer diagnosis. Football playoffs#TouchdownOrTurnoverMike Golic Jr dipped an Oreo in mayonnaise at the Mayo bowlBig Ben says he’s preparing like his MondY night game against the Browns wil be the last Steeler home game of his careerKyle Pitts is 128 yards away from breaking Mike Ditka’s rookie receiving record for tight ends#UnnecessaryToughnessRants
#LetsTalkAboutItShit show COVID-19 game reschedulingPro Bowl results: Stats: Coach and Eagles Coach both test positive for Covid-19 Thursday night football AT #CollegeFootballNewsFormer USC QB Kedon Slovis transfers to Pitt. Replaces projected first round pick Kenny Pickett. Rutger will replace Texas A&M in the Gator bowl. Aggies had massive Covid-19 outbreaks. They play Wake ForestJahmyr Gibbs, All ACC running back at Georgia Tech transfers to AlabamaFormer USC linebacker and his brother arrested on PPP loan fraud.PAC-12 will have first-ever alumni council to help improve the conference. football committee states teams that test positive for Covid and can’t play will automatically forfeit, even if the National Championship gets vacated RIP Roggie Roper #TakeOrTangentRussell Wilson first losing season of careerBreeshan Breeland essentially kicked off the Viking after arguments with coaches and playersLamar Jackson vs Tyler Huntley media-created conference Chris Godwin tore ACLJonathan Abrams out for year with shoulder surgery #TouchdownorTurnoverChad Johnson tells Joe Burrow Cincinnati isn’t boringShedeur Sanders said he knew Travis Hunter would sign with Jackson State because of a TikTok they did together Tom Brady hissy fit by throwing an iPad with no repercussions in the mediaBucs sign leveonNick bosa comeback player of the year#UnnecessaryToughnessRants
#LetsTalkAboutItSpecial guest Phil JonesThursday night footballEveryone has Covid in the NFL now. It’s almost like HPV but not really#CollegeFootballNewsNational Signing Day history made by Deion SandersPeople were hating on Jackson StateTransfers galore#TakeOrTangentThe late Vincent Jackson had CTE 2 stage Phillip Adams had severe CTE. Killed himself and other people in his home Amazon removes Drake from Larry Hoover performance#TouchdownOrTurnoverDeAndre Hopkins in IRDolphins sign Damon Arnette NFL to allow head coach interviews two weeks before the season ends.
#LetsTalkAboutItNFL week 13 recap, week 14 previewFormer New Orleans Saints player Glenn Foster Jr pronounced dead in police custody in Alabama’s day after being arrested. of Former UCLA QB great Cade McNown arrested on 4 counts of felony grand theftNFL draft declarations: Cristobal Leaves Oregon after getting blown out in the PAC-12 championship by Utah for the 2nd time and takes Miami Hurricane job. Manny Diaz pretty much firedOklahoma State defensive coordinator Jim Knowles leaves to take same position at Ohio StateLSU starting quarterback Max Johnson transfers. His brother is the top tight end in the country coming out of high school and he decommitted from LSU. Max had 27tds and 6ints this year.Indiana QB Michael Penix Jr enters transfer portal5-star QB Quinn Ewers transfers from Ohio State after leaving high school early to enroll early and sign $1 million NIL dealBowl games announcedConference champions Heisman finalists #TakeOrTangentAldon Smith got arrested…again. NFL players have switched to high school coaching. Jamal Adams tore his labrum against the 49ers. Done for the year. 87 tackles and 2 picks. After police standoff & mental hospitalization Vikings defensive end Everson Griffin states he is bipolar and will take the path of becoming a mental health advocate. #TouchdownOrTurnoverSaints cut Kenny Stills after costly drop that lead to interception against the Cowboys Bills safeties scold and walk out on reporter after “embarrassing” question. Las Vegas Raiders running back Josh Jacobs allegedly has 8 kids by 8 women rumors finally get addressed Ravens All-Pro corner Marlon Humphrey out for season after tearing his pec against Pittsburgh #UnneccessaryToughnessRants
#LetsTalkAboutItThursday night football: Cowboys vs SaintsDivision standings#CollegeFootballNewsLincoln Riley hired as USC head coach and immediately changes recruiting landscape Brian Kelly squirms out of Notre Dame like a coward to take LSU jobCollege football playoff rankings dropMichigan beat Ohio STATEBilly Napier is the new coach at FloridaFresno State head coach takes Washington job and Fresno State QB transferring to presumably Washington Bronco Mendenhall surprisingly resigns as Virginia head coachDefensive coordinator Marcus Freeman named Notre Dame Head CoachNCAA created 42nd bowl game. Now all 84 bowl-eligible teams can play. Hawaii will play Memphis in the Hawaii bowlFormer UCF running back Otis Anderson Jr killed by his father. Adrian Martinez Jr, All-time Yardage leader at Nebraska is in the transfer portal#TakeOrTangentAntonio Brown suspense do 3 games for fake vaccination cardBills Super Bowl hopes with All-Pro corner Tradavious white out with a torn aclChristian McCaffery out for season#TouchdownOrTurnoverAdrian Peterson signs with Seattle SeahawksRG3 tell all book about Redskins#UnnecessaryToughness
Kenny had no phone for two days so this episode actually took place on Thanksgiving. Sorry. Also Pete got charged $90 for melted Cold Stone Creamery Ice Cream via Uber Eats. We talked all three Thanksgiving games and the breaking news of the NFL and College football. Be thankful we take no days off, even when others say the same and then take the day off.
Special guests from Courtside Radio Eric Lambkins II and Alexander Hymes drop in to talk Thursday Night Football, the FUTURE of Seattle Seahawks QB Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll, college football and the occasional take or tangent. Follow us on all platforms at as well as to stream our archives.
We talked about Odell BeckhamJr to the Rams and how we’ve predicted all the Rams moves for the past year or so. Salute to Les Snead. We talked the Astroworld tragedy and more waiver news like Desean Jackson to the Las Vegas Raiders. College Football news elaborated on the Playoff standings, the Jimmy Lake suspension, some high school football and of course SEC politics. Take or TangentTouchdown or TurnoverUnnecessary Toughness Rants
#LetstalkaboutitHenry Ruggs III DUI tragedy Aaron Rodgers lied with omission about being vaccinated and caught Covid this weekVon Miller traded to the RamsThursday Night Football: Colts Vs JetsDerrick Henry injured. Possibly out for year with foot injuryAdrian Peterson signs with Titans#CollegeFootballNewsTCU fired Gary PattersonGeorgia projected 1st round linebacker Adam Anderson suspended pending rape allegationsTexas assistant coach girlfriend’s pet monkey allegedly bites a kid during Halloween. You read that properly. UCLA freshman defensive lineman under investigation after video and audio of him threatening to beat people up in an elevator comes out. San Diego State no longer undefeated USC receiver Drake London out for year with fractured ankleGeorgia State hires Clay HeltonCongress wants law that will change the way NCAA investigates it’s member schools. #TakeOrTangentJameis Winston out for year with torn ACLTRADE DEADLINE winners and losersHawthrone, Lawndale, Leuzinger and Serra all made the playoffs in high school football#TouchdownOrTurnoverOdell Beckham Jr vs the Cleveland BrownsInglewood high catches criticism for beating Morningside 106-0 last weekDesean Jackson got waived by the LA Rams an is now a free agent. #UnnecessaryToughnessRants
#LetsTalkAboutItThursday night football: Cardinals vs Packers. JJ Watt has potentially Season-ending shoulder surgery. He had 4 injuries. Brady 600th Touchdown pass given back by fan#CollegeFootballNewsTop 25 newsUSC drama No campus sights for playoff games Illinois vs Penn State 9 overtimes Matt Wells fired as Texas Tech coach. They were 5-3#TakeOrTangentMike Tomlin shuts down USC coaching rumorNick Saban says he has 10 more yearsAnti-trust lawsuit from St. Louis#TouchdownOrTurnoverWatson trade rumors with expectation of no suspensionsMelvin Ingram wants out of Pittsburgh NFL won’t release WTF report findings#UnnecessaryToughness
#letstalkaboutitThursday night football: Browns vs BroncosNFL agrees to race-based brain testing in $1billion settlement. in troubleSpecial Guest: Cory Lestochi of the Hardcore Penn State Football podcast 8:35 p.m. #CollegeFootballNewsTop-25Nick Rolovich fired by Washington State because of State mandates and he’s suingAppalachian States upsets 14th ranked Coastal Carolina 30-27.Coach O and LSU agree to part ways at the end of the season. Heinous reports came out.AAU conference to add 6 Conference USA schools in Florida Atlantic, Charlotte, North Texas, UTSA, Rice & UAB.USC vs Notre Dame#TakeOrTangentDeshaun Watson trade rumorsZach Ertz to the Arizona CardinalsDan Campbell critiques Jared GoffDiggs on Diggs, ya digg?Marcus Maye staying?Jenkins invested in soccer teamDk vs shannon#TouchdownOrTurnoverThe Raiders had the most black players in the NFL, then Jon Gruden took over. Marlon Mack trade rumorsWhitney joins GBVon stayingAaron Rodgers says he owns the Bears. Tom Brady says he doesn’t really need the Jets in sick burn
#LetsTalkAboutItOn the latest episode of white people getting exposed for their racist bullshit, The Las Vegas Raiders FORMER Head Coach Jon Gruden gets fired only when his homophobic and misogynistic emails from 12 years ago to Bruce Allen get leaked. The emails where he made racial attacks on NFLPA Director DeMaurice Smith lips and intelligence weren’t enough to garner much outrage at first. This backlash is the cause of the WTF investigation that’s going on. There’s over 6,000 emails. Tampa Bay Buccaneers remove him from their Ring of Honor. Defensive end Carl Nassib takes a personal day. Thursday Night Football Juju Smith-Schuster out for season with dislocated shoulder. Talks about it at his Foundation dinner.#CollegeFootballNewsDown goes Bama. Texas A & M upsets Alabama. 41-38. Bill O’Brien shit down his leg again Iowa beats Penn State is is ranked 2nd behind Georgia. Georgia plays Kentucky. #1 vs #11LSU loses two more key players for the yearLincoln Riley vs School paperJustin Flowe signs with Marshawn Lynch’s Beast Mode Marketing. Currently out for the year with injuryUSC long time Sports Information Director Tim Tessalone to retire. Considered one of the G.O.A.Ts. Coastal Carolina senior tight end Isaiah Likely has 8 catches for 232 yards & 4tds against Arkansas state last week. Set a bunch of school records. Moves faster than Vernon Davis. #TakeOrTangentWTF to retire Sean Taylor’s 21 jerseyReports say Urban Meyer never had the teamMyles Garrett builds Halloween tombstone graveyard of opposing QBs.Bengals Packers game had 5 missed kicks and some extra pointsLamar Jackson ascends to historical levels on Monday Night Football comeback#TouchdownOrTurnoverHNFLPA requests full release of emails from WTF investigation Meme of the week: Is Saquan Barkley the Carson Wentz of running backs?Lamar Jackson finally gets roughing the passer call after 2 yearsChiefs got their ass beat by the Buffalo Bills#UnnecessaryToughnessRants
#LetsTalkAboutItThe well-timed self-destruction of Urban Meyer Cowboys cut Former Pro Bowler Jaylen Smith over money and injury guarantees. He signs with the Green Bay PackersPatriots trade Former Defensive Player if the Year Stephon Gilmore over money and health issues to the Carolina Panthers. Patriots sign Linebacker Jamie CollinsThursday Night Football.Raiders v.s. Chargers recap#CollegeFootballNewsNotre Dame got their ass beat.NCAAF top-25. All-American cornerback Derek Stingley out indefinitely after foot surgery Kentucky fined $250,000 for storming the field at home after upsetting 10th ranked Florida Gators. Waka Flaka Flame walked out the Kentucky team and celebrated with Kentucky students after the win. Most college shit ever. #TakeOrTangentLamar Jackson, “All Quarterbacks deserve the same amount of protection.” He’s only had seven roughing the passer calls in his favor in 41 career starts. Odell Beckham Jr has played with a torn labrum in his left shoulder for the past 10 years. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith job in jeopardy approaching vote this Friday. Lynch to be named the Inaugural NFLPA chief brand ambassador Christian McCaffery said he’d argue against Thursday Night Football due to injury riskDerek Carr said Joey Bosa’s comments on his mental and physical toughness “pissed him off.” #UnnecessaryToughnessRants
#LetsTalkAboutItSuper Bowl lineup announcedLeSean McCoy retires as an EagleThursday Night Football Richard Sherman signs with Buccaneers #CollegeFootballNewsPhil Knight starting NIL company 3 recapArizona football is trashFlorida State is trashier#TakeOrTangentJaguars have lost 19 straight gamesChicago Matt Nagy ruining his QBs#TouchdownOrTurnoverHood Chinese vs Hood Mongolian Kenny’s Boston trip#UnnecessaryToughnessRants
Lets talk about it Locked on Chargers 810Samuel, Herbert, Oline, Defense RbsInjury Updates: Justin Fields in, big ben is hurt, tua out, 820 HS Football 2021 with Connor m. From scorebook live (11 mins) College Football Spot 1-10 minutesUSC UpdateUCLA does what they doKenny football (done by 9:05)Kenny mom 5-10 minutes Touchdown or turnoverNFL keeping taunting rulesRg3 back to washington?Josh sweat 3 years, 40 millb. HJamie Collins held out amid trade rumors9ers workout duke johnson and lamarh millerPete Carroll throws Russell Wilson under the butvstTake or tangent Lamar not a franchise guy says anonymous execRodgers says how do these guys have a platform about naysayersRaiders kicker Daniel Carlson loses to himself in fantasyShermans rep soeaks for itselfRantPOF nomineesContenders or pretenders?
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