Trail Runner Nation

James Lawrence, the Iron Cowboy, joins The Nation to talk about his extraordinary journey in endurance sports, including his world-record-setting Ironman triathlons. James reflects on overcoming early struggles, the transformative power of mindset, and how embracing suffering shaped his resilience. He highlights the importance of community, gratitude, and hope, sharing emotional stories like helping a boy with cerebral palsy complete a triathlon and a profound moment on Mount Kilimanjaro. The conversation explores lessons of mental toughness, personal growth, and parenting, offering inspiration for achieving extraordinary goals. James also shares insights from his new book that hit the market on January 21, Iron Hope, Lessons Learned from Conquering the Impossible. Check out these links: the documentary on Amazon Prime, "Conquer 100: The Iron Cowboy Video of James completing one of his most memorable full-triathlon with Dayton Hayward. Jame's podcast, The Grit Show Follow James on Instagram Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Peluva, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER Ketone IQ, Get 30% off your first subscription order FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

There is an unwritten code of ethics promoting health, respect, and community support. in trail running.  It has existed for longer than any of us.  As a tribe or community, we need to know, share, and protect this code.  Coach Jimmy Dean Freeman rejoins us after many years to help us understand part of this code.  The SoCal Coyotes running club created a short list of some of these codes.  This is not comprehensive but shares some of the tenants we all live by and enjoy.  We did an episode on this code, aka Coyote Bushido, back in 2012 and reviewed it on an episode in 2020 to see if it is still pertinent. We start the conversation by talking about the resilience of the trail-running community, particularly in Southern California, as it faces challenges like natural disasters. Check out the SoCal Coyotes web page Follow the Coyotes on Instagram Watch the original video about the Trail Bushido HERE Check out the first review of the Bushido from 2020 HERE Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Ketone IQ, Get 30% off your first subscription order Liquid IV, get 20% off your first order with code TRAILRUNNER FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

In this  Ask the Coaches episode, three coaches from Sharman Ultra Coaching, Ian Sharman, Dr. Matt Laye, and Jackson Brill  bring topics that they regularly encounter with their athletes. The conversation dives into the importance of mental toughness in ultra running, offering practical training strategies and insights on managing expectations during races.  Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Peluva, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER Get 45% off the Magic Mind bundle FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

In this episode, we play a game of "brilliant" or "bullshit" based on ten essential skills or knowledge areas that our "guest", Chat GPT, feels that every trail runner must know.  Topics include embracing mud, barefoot running, hydration timing, and the value of technical gear, complemented by personal anecdotes and insights. The conversation highlights balancing technology with intuition, the benefits of walking technical sections, and the freedom to personalize nutrition. We also explore evolving views on stretching and the philosophy of racing oneself rather than competing with others, offering valuable takeaways for runners of all levels. Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN Peluva, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

There are so many new studies and scientific discoveries that it's tough for us runners to discern what is fact and what is fiction.  That’s why we enjoy every discussion we have with Alex Hutchinson. He dispels the fake news and brings to us the latest and greatest in athletic research in his "Sweat Science" column at OutsideOnline.com.  In this episode, we discuss a few of his recent articles on meditation, VO2max differences in gender, and how to fight muscle power as we age. Make sure you have his award-winning book, Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance explores the boundaries of human potential on your reading list. Visit the Sweat Science website to learn more about Alex and everything he has going on. And pre-order his new book, The Explorer's Gene. Why We Seek Big Challenges, New Flavors, and Blank Spots on the Map - available on March 25, 2025.  For sure we will be doing at least one episode on this so do your homework! Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off HUEL, 15% off with code TRAIL Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Have you ever wondered if you’re leaving free speed on the trail every time you hit a downhill? Today, we’ll show you how mastering the art of downhill running can not only save your legs but also transform your races—because downhill running isn’t just about gravity; it’s about strategy, skill, and confidence. Coach Ian Sharman offers invaluable insights for trail and ultra runners. We discuss essential techniques to overcome fear, manage muscle fatigue, and master quick feet for navigating technical terrain safely. Ian shares strategies to turn downhill sections into race-winning opportunities, highlighting the importance of consistent effort, decision-making, and tailored fueling strategies. The conversation emphasizes running gear's impact on performance and safety, particularly shoes and explores how practicing falling can reduce injury risks. Listeners are encouraged to embrace new challenges, enjoy the playful side of running, and build confidence through practice and preparation for downhill racing. Check out Sharman Ultra Coaching and get a gift card for your friend! Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off INFERNO by Running Scared Media. BOGO with Promo Code Holiday shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Are the diet myths you’ve believed holding you back from peak performance, or could eating more actually be the key to running stronger and feeling better? In this episode, Zoë Rom and Kylee Van Horn, creators of the podcast Your Diet Sucks, explore the critical role of nutrition in endurance sports. They discuss common diet myths, the importance of individualized nutrition, and the impact of social media on body image and eating disorders among athletes. The conversation highlights why fueling for performance should take priority over aesthetics, the pitfalls of restrictive dieting, and the value of listening to your body. They also touch on food justice, the role of organic food, and the evolving science of recovery nutrition. With their journalism and sports nutrition background, they’re on a mission to simplify nutrition, promote a healthier relationship with food, and debunk the noise surrounding endurance athletes’ diets. Zoë Rom is an award-winning journalist and ultra-runner with a master’s in environmental journalism and author of Becoming a Sustainable Runner. Kylee Van Horn is a registered dietitian and founder of Fly Nutrition, specializing in helping athletes fuel for performance and challenge harmful dietary norms in sports. Her new book, Practical Fueling for Endurance Athletes: Your Nutrition Guide for Optimal Performance is available for preorder and release on March 3, 2025. Both are amazing trail runners who talk our language. Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off INFERNO by Running Scared Media. BOGO with Promo Code Holiday Liquid IV, get 20% off your first order with code TRAILRUNNER Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN20 Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Sometimes, life's greatest challenges lead to its most meaningful moments and change our lives. Dion Leonard joins The Nation to tell one of his stories that might motivate you to embrace resilience, foster kindness, and value the connections that make life extraordinary. Ultra-runner and author Dion Leonard shares his journey through his remarkable transformation from an overweight, heavy-drinking smoker to a decorated endurance athlete. Dion shares the pivotal moments that defined his path, including a half-marathon bet that set him on the road to health and his life-changing encounter with a stray dog named Gobi during the Gobi Desert ultramarathon. Dion reflects on the themes of resilience, personal growth, and the impact of kindness—lessons that extend far beyond the trails. Check out his New York Timse best-selling book, Finding Gobi: A LIttle Dog with a Very Big Heart.  Learn more about Dion Leonard HERE Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN20 AquaTru: use code TRAILRUNNER for up to 20% off any water purifier Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Drop bags are a crucial tool for ultra runners, serving as lifelines that ensure access to essential items like hydration, nutrition, and comfort gear during long races. TRN friend and regular guest, Krissy Moehl and Kelly Kelly Swanson join our virtual run today to discuss the use of drop bags in ultra running. Kelly is the co-host of a new podcast, Drop Bag, and creator of the Ultraplanner, a tool that can help you organize your next ultra adventure or race. They explore the logistics and planning required, sharing personal anecdotes and lessons learned from their experiences as runners and race directors. The conversation highlights the importance of preparation, including packing essential items like hydration, nutrition, and comfort items that can enhance a runner’s experience. They delve into the challenges of race-day adaptability, particularly when drop bags don’t arrive as expected, and offer practical tips on labeling, weatherproofing, and lightening the load for volunteers. The hosts also emphasize the emotional aspects of racing, such as carrying sentimental items for motivation and creating connections within the running community. This episode underscores the value of preparation, humor, and giving back, all while fostering camaraderie among runners. Krissy and Kelly have put together a great book bundle that includes: - "Run Your First Ultra" by Krissy Moehl - "Ultraplanner" by Kelly Swanson - Performance Enhancing Kokopelli tattoos from Trail Runner Nation - Stickers from Drp Bag Podcast and Salty Britches Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Black Friday, Janji is offering 40% off sitewide through Sunday December 1 Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Special BOGO special during Black Friday HUEL, 15% off with code TRAIL Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

What happens when the chaos of touring musicianship meets the grit of ultra-running? In this inspiring episode, we welcome ultra runners, musicians, and friends Kyle Whalum, Brad Sample, and Caleb Gilbreath to share their unique journey through the Pinhoti 100 ultramarathon and beyond. The conversation explores the parallels between music and running, highlighting the importance of self-discovery, inner rhythm, and passion over competition. From battling imposter syndrome to embracing spontaneity, the guests reflect on personal growth, the beauty of simplicity, and finding harmony in life’s challenges. Their documentary Rhythm in the Darkness captures the profound connections between endurance, creativity, and community. Be SURE to listen past the end credits for one of the songs from the documentary. Click here for the Official Rhythm In The Darkness Soundtrack EP their band, DFL: https://music.apple.com/us/album/rhyt... https://open.spotify.com/album/4YHJe4... Here are links to Brad Sample's solo work Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off OneSkin: Get 15% off with code TRN Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN20 Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Should we consider slowing down to Zone 1 for most of our training?  Returning guest and Brad Kearns, co-author of Born to Walk: The Broken Promises of the Running Boom, and How to Slow Down and Get Healthy--One Step at a Time, and long-time advocate for rethinking training principles. Building on our previous conversation with Mark Sisson, Brad explores the misunderstood world of aerobic conditioning. We discuss what elite athletes like Eliud Kipchoge are getting right—and what most recreational runners are missing—by focusing on slow, low-intensity efforts. Brad challenges the hype around Zone 2 training and shares insights on polarized training, resilience, and the surprising value of walking.  Brad highlights the importance of building an aerobic base, using zone one training to prevent injuries, and balancing high-intensity workouts with sustainable practices. He also discusses how outdoor adventure sports can foster a deeper connection to nature and improve overall health. With insights into training philosophy and the value of recovery, this episode offers actionable advice for runners of all levels. Learn more about Brad at BradKearns.com Check out the B.Rad podcast too Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off HUEL, 15% off with code TRAIL Ketone IQ Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

How does the foot arch function in running? How does the big toe play a crucial role in foot health and running efficiency? Dr. Matthew Silver returns to The Nation to answer these questions and help us understand practical ways to activate and strengthen our arches, shedding light on how different shoe types—especially the trend of high-stacked shoes—impact our feet over time. This episode will help you make smarter choices for long-term running performance . Dr. Matthew Silver, physical therapist and author of Built to Run: The Runner’s Guide to Fixing Common Injuries, Resolving Pain, and Optimizing Running Performance Now and For Life Check out Dr. SIlver's website to sign up for his newsletter and for more information or consultation: Alpha Project Phyzio and Performance Here is the link to Barefoot Science orthotics that Matt talked about Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Amazfit - get 15% off their new T-Rex 3 AquaTru: use code TRAILRUNNER for up to 20% off any water purifier Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Returning guest and renowned physical therapist Jay Dicharry returns to unravel the truths and myths around stretching, mobility, and shoe selection for runners. Jay sheds light on the debate between static and dynamic stretching, highlighting how dynamic stretching can better prepare runners for performance and injury prevention. He distinguishes between flexibility (passive) and mobility (active control), emphasizing that mobility training, joint stability, and motor control are crucial for long-term success in distance running. The conversation also explores footwear’s role, with insights into the benefits and risks of minimal and super shoes and how each type can impact running biomechanics. Jay encourages runners to focus on strength and mobility exercises to support muscle mass, bone density, and efficient movement. Runners will leave with actionable tips to improve their range of motion, prevent injury, and make informed choices about stretching and footwear for their unique needs. Check out this video Jay produced on the MASTERCLASS on Super Shoes For Runners By his 2nd edition of his amazing book, Running Rewired: Reinvent Your Run for Stability, Strength, and Speed, 2nd Edition Find out more about Jay and his services at An Athlete's Body Get 10% off a Mobo Board HERE Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off HUEL, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER Ketone IQ Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

For our 700th episode, we convinced our good friend Andy Jones-Wilkins to take some time off from recording his podcast, Crack A Brew with AJW, and his coaching to join us for a new episode type that we call "Trick or Treat." Each participant shares a story, and the others must guess if it’s a Trick (lie) or a Treat (truth). We had a blast making it—hope you enjoy it! Hire AJW as a coach! and read his weekly article in the AJW's Taproom Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Amazfit - get 15% off their new T-Rex 3 Air Doctor: use code TRAILRUNNER for up to $300 off air purifiers Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

“True will is quiet humility, resilience, and flexibility; the other kind of will is weakness disguised by bluster and ambition.” - Ryan Holiday This is the final episode of a 3-part series, where we review  Ryan Holiday's powerful book, The Obstacle is the Way: The Ancient Art of Turning Adversity to Advantage. Holiday, an expert on Stoicism, outlines three essential steps to overcoming challenges—Perception, Action, and Will. In this episode, we focus on Will, essential for overcoming adversity.   If perception and action are the disciplines of the mind and the body, then WILL is the discipline of the heart and the soul.: WILL is the inner fortitude, acceptance of fate, and the relentless pursuit of enduring challenges with grace. Will is the one thing that we control completely, always. We are joined again by Coach Adam Kimble. In this section Holiday emphasizes the importance of inner strength and resilience in overcoming adversity.  This section is about how we respond when we’ve done all we can through perspective and action, yet still face hardships beyond our control. Holiday focuses on the development of willpower, endurance, and the ability to accept and withstand external challenges with grace. Part 1: EP 693: Perception: Turning Obstacles into Opportunities Part 2: EP 696: The Power of Action Learn more about Coach Adam Kimble HERE Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off HUEL, 15% off with code TRAIL Ketone IQ Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

In this episode, we explore the relationship between nutrition and running with registered dietitian Jason Levee. We cover meal prep strategies, the importance of fiber for overall health, and how hydration impacts performance. Jason emphasizes balancing family health with healthy eating habits, providing practical tips on fueling before and after workouts. The discussion also highlights the value of a healthy relationship with food and making nutritious choices even when life gets busy. Listeners will learn how nutrition can enhance physical and mental performance for runners and their families. Check out Whole Family Health, where Jason specializes in helping busy families and athletes find practical ways to prioritize nutrition. Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Amazfit - get 15% off their new T-Rex 3 AquaTru: use code TRAILRUNNER for up to 20% off any water purifier Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Why are there so many fast finish times this year?  How can you get faster? In this episode, we explore the recent trend of record-breaking performances in ultra running, examining the key factors driving these improvements. We talk about the impact of advancements in equipment, nutrition, and coaching on performance, as well as the importance of mental training and recovery strategies. The conversation highlights how consistent training and the right fueling techniques can enhance endurance and lead to personal breakthroughs. Success comes through adopting a holistic approach to ultra running, combining the right gear, structured training, and mental resilience for long-term success. Our coaches who lead this discussion are  Krissy Moehl, the recent voice of UTMB simulcast, coach, author, race director, etc. Ian Sharman, "freaking fast runner" with over 250 marathon and ultra finishes and world record-holder as the fastest marathon dressed as Elvis David Roche, coaching alongside his wife, Megan.  Oh, by the way, he just broke the 19-year-old course record at Leadville 100 in his first attempt at that distance.  Wanna learn more?  Check out our interview about how he did it. Find out more about this episode's sponsors: Janji Tifosi Optics Ketone IQ AND!!!!!  Check out the new free app we developed, Trail Triage

“For us is the life of action….let us rather run the risk of wearing out than rusting out.” Theodore Roosevelt This is the 2 episode of a 3-part series, we dive into Ryan Holiday's powerful book, The Obstacle is the Way: The Ancient Art of Turning Adversity to Advantage. Holiday, an expert on Stoicism, outlines three essential steps to overcoming challenges—Perception, Action, and Will. In this episode, we focus on Action, essential for overcoming adversity We are joined in this series by frequent Nation guest, Coach Adam Kimble. We talk about the critical role of action in overcoming life’s challenges, emphasizing the idea that deliberate action, rather than passive reaction, is key to growth. The discussion highlights how failure is not something to be feared but rather an essential part of the learning process, helping to clarify the path forward. We draw parallels between ultra running and everyday life, showing how perseverance and resilience are cultivated through a process-oriented approach. We also discuss cultural perceptions of failure, the need to reframe obstacles as opportunities for growth, and stress the importance of community in supporting personal development. Part 1: EP 693: Perception: Turning Obstacles into Opportunities Learn more about Coach Adam Kimble HERE Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Amazfit - get 15% off their new T-Rex 3 Field of Greens: use code TRAILRUNNER for 15% off Air Doctor: use code TRAILRUNNER for up to $300 off air purifiers Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

In this episode, Dr. Phil Maffetone takes a comprehensive look at stress management, breaking it down into physical, biochemical, and mental/emotional categories. He shares practical strategies for addressing common stressors, from eliminating physical stress like ill-fitting shoes to managing biochemical stress through diet and reducing inflammation. Dr. Phil shares his personal experiences as a songwriter and stand-up comedian, highlighting how creative outlets like music and comedy can help reduce stress. He emphasizes the importance of balancing positive and negative stress, with exercise playing a key role in stress management. Tools like heart rate monitors can serve as biofeedback for stress control, reminding us that everyone’s stress response is unique. Learn more by watching these clips: - Dr. Phil's Birthday Video - The MAF Method - Dr. Phil's music - Dr. Phil's website Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Ketone IQ Amazfit - get 15% off their new T-Rex 3 Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

What happens when a love for the outdoors leads to launching an outdoor gear company and then running your first ultra-marathon? In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we’re joined by Tayson Whittaker, founder and CEO of Outdoor Vitals, to dive into the world of fastpacking, trail running, and backpacking. Tayson shares his inspiring journey of launching Outdoor Vitals, a company committed to providing high-quality outdoor gear. He reflects on his love for exploring remote areas, disconnecting from the digital world, and how his passion for backpacking evolved into a desire to push his limits through trail running. We also explore Tayson's transition into ultra running, including the challenges he faced in his first 75K race, his experience pacing at the Moab 240, and how these trials sparked his goal of completing a 100-mile race. Throughout the conversation, Tayson emphasizes the importance of building confidence through experience, using the right gear, and embracing the mental and emotional benefits of outdoor adventures. Whether you’re a runner, backpacker, or fastpacker, this episode is packed with insights on stepping out of your comfort zone and growing through new challenges in the wilderness. Watch Tayson talk about his 10 year journey with Outdoor Vitals Tayson's documentary of his first 100-mile completion Follow Outdoor Vitals on Instagram, Facebook, X, and YouTube Check out their podcast, LiveUltraLight Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off True Nutrition Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app Amazfit - get 15% off their new T-Rex 3 ⤵️