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You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.

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On this episode, Travis is joined in studio by his producer Eric for a candid breakdown of the exploding OnlyFans economy, why Californians are leading the charge in spending, and what all of this reveals about our relationship with money and loneliness. Together they mix data, dark humor, and real‑talk money advice to challenge how much you are blowing on subscriptions that do nothing for your long‑term wealth or relationships. On this episode we talk about: How Californians spent over $350 million on OnlyFans in 2025 and why that number is “light” compared to what people imagine. Which cities and states are the biggest OnlyFans spenders per capita and why Utah keeps showing up in adult‑industry data. How the creator side became a billion‑dollar industry with over a million U.S. creators and a tiny handful making most of the money. The psychological trap of thinking you have a “relationship” with creators, paywalled DMs, and AI/agency chat replies. Practical guidelines for how much of your income you should (and shouldn’t) be spending on platforms like OnlyFans if you actually want to build wealth. Top 3 Takeaways If you are already in debt, spending hundreds a month on OnlyFans is not “self‑care,” it is sabotage to your financial future. The average OnlyFans creator makes very little, so chasing top‑1% creator money in that space comes with huge trade‑offs for your reputation and long‑term options. You will not buy your way out of loneliness with parasocial online “relationships”; money does a lot more for you when it is in your bank account than when it is in someone else’s tip jar. Notable Quotes “Stop spending money on dumb shit all the time, because it is just not worth it.” “You feel like you have this quasi‑relationship because you sent her $24,000 over three years—but you don’t, bro.” “Money only solves money problems, but it is easier to solve problems with money in the bank than with a stack of OnlyFans receipts.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Carey James is the founder of Brand Alchemy and a leading positioning expert for founders and executives thriving in today’s AI-driven attention economy. A former PhD candidate in neuroscience, Carey has helped clients generate over $30 million in sales by translating complex expertise into credibility, visibility, and inbound demand. Drawing from neuroscience, storytelling, and sales psychology, he empowers high performers to step into their “niche of one” and transform authority into opportunity. On this episode we talk about: How Carey went from Hollywood to neuroscience to brand strategy Why even brilliant experts often stay invisible online The difference between branding and marketing—and why it matters How to discover your unique brand “DNA” and build trust online Why consistency and authenticity always outperform perfect strategy Top 3 Takeaways If people can’t find you online, they can’t hire you—visibility is no longer optional; it’s essential. Authentic personal branding means doubling down on what makes you different, not what makes you the same. Consistency builds subconscious trust—show up the same way everywhere, online and off. Notable Quotes “If you’re not putting yourself out there, you’re getting overshadowed at a compounding rate.” – Carey James “If you don’t define your label, the market will define it for you.” – Carey James “Best known beats best every single time.” – Travis Chappell Connect with Carey James: Website: brandalchemy.io Instagram: @careyjamesofficial LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/careyjamesofficial Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Travis Chappell solo-hosts this episode of Travis Makes Money, sharing hard-won life lessons from his own journey as a creator, entrepreneur, and podcast coach. He breaks down mindset traps that keep people stuck—like perfectionism, negativity bias, and emotional reactivity—and offers practical tools for building resilience, happiness, and momentum in both life and business. Through stories, analogies, and real-life examples (including a tense pickup basketball game), Travis gives listeners concrete ways to rewire their thinking for long-term success and peace of mind. On this episode we talk about: Why “done is better than perfect” and how perfectionism turns into procrastination The importance of shipping imperfect work to get real-world feedback How to hardwire happiness by revisiting positive moments and strengthening neural pathways Using gratitude and visualization to combat negativity bias and anxiety Stoic principles: external events vs. your perception and reaction Practical strategies to pause before reacting and respond in ways that serve your goals Top 3 Takeaways Done beats perfect every time. Waiting for perfection keeps you from ever launching the book, product, or podcast that will actually teach you what needs to improve. You can train your brain toward happiness. By intensifying and revisiting moments of joy and gratitude, you widen the mental “paths” that make it easier to access positive emotional states. Events aren’t the problem—your reaction is. Your long-term happiness is tied less to what happens and more to the way you choose to interpret and respond, especially in emotionally charged moments. Notable Quotes “Done is better than perfect, because perfectionism is just procrastination in disguise.” “The ability to be happy or grateful in the absence of reasons to be is a superpower.” “External events are not the problem. It’s your perception of them that’s the problem.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Part 2 of yesterday's conversation, Travis Chappell and his producer, Eric, continue their candid discussion about building a career without following the traditional “prestigious school → perfect job” blueprint. From mission-field poverty to producing millions of podcast views, this episode explores the messy middle of modern work—where stability and ambition can coexist. If you’ve ever felt stuck between the safety of a 9–5 and the pull of entrepreneurship, this conversation is your roadmap for navigating both. On this episode we talk about: The hybrid model: why you don’t have to “burn the boats” to build something meaningful Treating your 9–5 like a client instead of a prison Continuously reevaluating your skills, goals, and what fulfillment actually looks like Leveraging content, outsourcing, and systems to build momentum on the side Why complaining repels opportunity—and action creates clarity Getting comfortable with uncertainty in a rapidly changing economy Top 3 Takeaways You can hold both worlds. You don’t have to fully quit your job or fully surrender to it—build stability while creating leverage on the side. Clarity comes from action, not overthinking. The only way to discover what you actually want is by trying things, adjusting, and trying again. Opportunity favors ownership. Complaining about the system changes nothing—creating inside of it (or alongside it) changes everything. Notable Quotes “Find the thing that actually takes care of you—and build the vision on the side.” “There’s never been an opportunity gained from sulking and complaining.” “The bad news is you have to figure it out. The good news is—you get to.” “If there was opportunity repellent in a spray, it would be complaining.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Eric Tash is a brand marketer and the host of Worthy for 30, a mission-driven podcast spotlighting business leaders who are “doing good while doing well.” Through candid conversations with founders, operators, and philanthropists, Eric explores the balance between purpose, profitability, and positive impact. His passion for authentic storytelling and consistent creation makes him a standout example of how side hustles can drive both meaning and momentum. On this episode we talk about: How podcasting sharpens communication, confidence, and connection Building authentic relationships through consistent outreach Why “starting ugly” is better than waiting for perfect conditions The surprising benefits and opportunities podcasting creates How purpose-driven founders use business to strengthen communities Top 3 Takeaways You don’t need massive resources to start a meaningful podcast—just curiosity, consistency, and care. The key to attracting high-profile guests is preparation, respect for their time, and genuine connection. Podcasting isn’t just about building an audience—it’s a platform for growth, learning, and creating impact. Notable Quotes “If you don’t send the email, the answer is always no.” – Eric Tash “Podcasting holds you accountable to becoming a better version of yourself.” – Travis Chappell “All the best business leaders are incredible communicators.” – Eric Tash Connect with Eric Tash: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/erictash Instagram: @worthyforthirty Website: worthyforthirty.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this solo episode, Travis Chappell continues his life lessons series, pulling from a decade of experience producing 1,500+ podcast episodes, interviewing world-class performers, and consuming hundreds of books. Drawing on personal stories—from his religious upbringing to observations about business, politics, and culture—Travis breaks down powerful mindset shifts that can transform the way you approach success, truth, and personal growth. On this episode we talk about: Why all new ideas are considered “heretical” before they’re accepted The difference between studying other beliefs and truly questioning your own Why effort and integrity matter more than outcomes How to accept truth—even from people you disagree with Why collaboration beats obstruction—and how negativity limits your own success The power of doing less, better for long-term growth and sustainability Top 3 Takeaways All big ideas face resistance first. If people aren’t questioning or criticizing your idea, it might not be bold enough. Innovation always looks crazy—until it works. Learn to unbelieve. True growth comes not from defending your current beliefs, but from being willing to question and rebuild them intentionally. Focus on effort, not outcomes. Success without integrity damages your relationship with yourself. Play the long game and build something sustainable. Notable Quotes “All new ideas are heretical at first.” “There’s a huge difference between learning about other people’s beliefs and learning to unbelieve your own.” “Don’t worry about the result—worry about the effort.” “Accept truth wherever you find it.” “We are born to work together. To obstruct each other is unnatural.” “Do less—better.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, Travis is joined in-studio by producer Eric to react to viral commentary about the rising cost of living, disappearing opportunity, and the growing sense of economic hopelessness in America. As videos circulate claiming the American Dream is dead, Travis breaks down why mindset, skill development, and entrepreneurship still offer a path forward—even in a difficult economy. Drawing from his own journey of building income over nearly a decade and 1,500+ podcast episodes, Travis explains why giving up is understandable… but never the solution. On this episode we talk about: Why six figures doesn’t feel like “wealth” anymore—and what that means for today’s economy The growing fear around AI, layoffs, and white-collar job displacement How victim mentality silently sabotages your financial future Why upskilling and value creation are the real income multipliers Entrepreneurship as the modern “great equalizer” in an uneven system Top 3 Takeaways Your future collapses the moment you decide it’s impossible. Even if the system isn’t fair, believing you have no agency guarantees you won’t take action. Income growth is directly tied to value creation. The more valuable your skills are to the marketplace, the easier it becomes to increase your earnings. Entrepreneurship doesn’t require becoming a billionaire—it simply creates optionality. Even modest business success can dramatically improve autonomy and quality of life. Notable Quotes “Your future is corrupted once you buy into the lie that you cannot create the future that you want.” “Just because it’s not your fault doesn’t mean it’s not your responsibility.” “The better you get at making money, the easier it is to make money.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Kareen Zahr is a leadership strategist, founder, investor, and keynote speaker known for helping high-performing leaders navigate uncertainty, pivot with intention, and scale sustainably. She’s the creator of the Evolve methodology and the Hey Kareen On Demand AI coaching platform, and she serves as a business coach and advisor to fellows at the Tory Burch Foundation. With a background that spans fintech, mergers and acquisitions, and executive coaching—including consulting for firms like BlackRock—Kareen blends strategic rigor with human-centered leadership to help entrepreneurs and executives build wealth without sacrificing fulfillment. On this episode we talk about: Kareen’s early money mindset and how her childhood shaped her financial discipline Climbing from $35K to $225K in five years—and what that rapid growth really cost Avoiding lifestyle creep and the “golden handcuffs” trap Transitioning from corporate executive to self-employed consultant to scalable CEO The 90/10 scaling strategy that helped her hit seven figures in under six months Top 3 Takeaways Don’t let lifestyle creep trap you. Keeping fixed expenses low gives you the freedom to pivot, take risks, and build on your own terms. If you don’t want to become the people above you, it’s time to pivot. Looking up the ladder is one of the fastest clarity tools for your career. Shift from trading time for money to building leveraged offers. Scaling requires designing revenue models that don’t depend solely on your hours. Notable Quotes “I’m never going to let the limitations of others become my own.” “Sometimes the chase for the money grab is not what actually fills you up.” “I realized I had employed myself—I gave myself a job.” Connect with Kareen Zahr: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kareenzahr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealkareenz Website: https://heykareen.com Money Mindset Workbook: https://heykareen.com/money-mindset  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this solo episode, Travis Chappell continues his deep dive into the personal “life lessons” document he’s been building for over a decade. Drawing from his journey in podcasting, door-to-door sales, endurance challenges, and personal development, Travis unpacks mindset shifts that directly impact opportunity, income, and long-term success. From learning to separate ego from results to embracing the duality of “awesome” pursuits, this episode is a practical and philosophical guide to leveling up your thinking—and your earning potential. On this episode we talk about: Why you don’t have to like someone to learn from them How ego blocks growth (and how to overcome the “veteran trap”) Catastrophizing vs. trivializing the unknown—and how it affects anxiety Why mastering the cold open multiplies opportunities in sales, networking, and life The hidden truth that things that are awesome are equally not awesome Top 3 Takeaways Detach learning from ego. If someone is getting better results than you, there’s something to learn—regardless of age, experience, or personality. Choose optimism on purpose. You can catastrophize the unknown and create anxiety, or trivialize it and create peace—the choice shapes your outcomes. Opportunity favors the initiator. Mastering the cold open—simply starting conversations—can dramatically expand your network, relationships, and income potential. Notable Quotes "You don’t have to like someone in order to learn from them." "You can catastrophize the unknown or trivialize the unknown—only one leads to peace." "Things that are awesome are equally not awesome." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, Travis sits down with his producer Eric for a candid, unscripted conversation reacting to viral clips and debates around church finances, nonprofit transparency, and leadership accountability. Drawing from his personal experience growing up in a megachurch environment and his perspective as a business owner, Travis breaks down the complex intersection of money, mission, and ethics—highlighting the challenges leaders face when managing large organizations without financial training, and why transparency is essential whether you're running a church, nonprofit, or business. On this episode we talk about: The conflicting messages about money in church culture and how it shapes people’s beliefs about wealth The importance of financial transparency in nonprofits, religious organizations, and leadership roles Why lack of financial education can lead to mismanagement—even with good intentions The ethical complexity of pastor salaries and compensation based on value and leadership impact Alternative models for growing communities without massive overhead and multi-million dollar buildings Top 3 Takeaways Transparency builds trust. Whether you're running a church, nonprofit, or business, people deserve clarity on how their contributions are being used. Leadership requires financial competence. Vision alone isn’t enough—understanding finances is critical when managing organizations with significant revenue. Compensation should reflect value—but accountability matters. Leaders deserve to be paid for the value they create, but openness and ethical stewardship are essential when others fund that compensation. Notable Quotes "When you're looking for reasons to be less transparent, it's not a good look—especially when people are trusting you with their money." "He built something incredible and deserves to be compensated—but transparency makes that easier to trust." "Money only solves your money problems—but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems when you have money in the bank." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Simon Severino is the founder of Strategy Sprints and a global business advisor who has generated over $2 billion in additional sales for his clients. A former strategy consultant working with S&P 500 boardrooms, Simon now helps high-ticket entrepreneurs reclaim 14+ hours per week using his Strategy Sprints method. He’s a bestselling author, top-ranked podcast host, TEDx speaker, Forbes contributor, triathlete—and co-author of Time Freedom with legendary marketer Jay Abraham. Simon blends deep philosophical thinking with practical execution, helping founders build multiple money systems while designing a life they actually want to live. On this episode we talk about: Why working on the business—not just in it—is the key to real scalability What “agile” really means for entrepreneurs and how to pivot quickly in changing markets The difference between making money and keeping money—and why both require different skill sets The 12 money systems you can build to create diversified, resilient income Designing your ideal day and building wealth around the life you want Top 3 Takeaways Agility equals speed of decision-making. The faster you can adapt your offers, pricing, and positioning, the more resilient your business becomes. Income diversification builds freedom. Running 5–7 “money systems” at once (consulting, cohorts, licensing, royalties, newsletters, investing, etc.) creates stability and leverage. Start with lifestyle design. Define how you want your ideal day to look—then build systems and assets that fund that life automatically. Notable Quotes "Give me the biggest problem and a team of the smartest people we can find—I’m happy." "It’s a very different skill to learn how to make money than it is to keep money." "I start with how I want to experience a day—then I build money systems around it." Connect with Simon Severino: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonseverino/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/simonseverino Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/simonseverino/ Other: Website: https://www.strategysprints.com/ Book: Strategy Sprints New Book: Time Freedom (co-authored with Jay Abraham)  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this solo episode of Travis Makes Money, Travis Chappell steps up to the mic to unpack powerful life lessons he’s collected over the past several years—73 lessons, 19 book ideas, and countless reflections distilled into one high-impact conversation. Drawing from personal experience, business insights, fatherhood, and even his battle with cancer, Travis shares the mindset shifts that have shaped his growth as an entrepreneur and leader. This episode is a rapid-fire guide to building better habits, embracing radical responsibility, and becoming the version of yourself capable of achieving bigger goals. On this episode we talk about: Why the quality of your habits determines the quality of your life (inspired by Atomic Habits) The power of radical responsibility and lessons from Extreme Ownership How delayed gratification (think The Marshmallow Test) predicts long-term success Focusing on becoming the person who can achieve the goal—not just chasing the goal itself Escaping the comfort zone and reshaping your reality through perception and empathy Top 3 Takeaways Your habits are your future. If you want to know where you’ll be in five years, look at what you do daily right now. Radical responsibility creates real power. The more ownership you take over your circumstances, the more control you gain over your outcomes. Change yourself to change your world. Your perception shapes your reality—growth starts internally before it ever shows up externally. Notable Quotes "The quality of your habits determines the quality of your life." "The control that you have over the outcomes in your life is directly correlated to the amount of responsibility that you're willing to take." "Don't focus on the goal—focus on becoming the person who can reach the goal." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this co-hosted episode, Travis Chappell and his producer Eric dive into two heated debates in the personal finance world—starting with viral criticism of Dave Ramsey and expanding into the broader conversation around financial influencers, online courses, and what qualifies as “predatory” in today’s creator economy. With humor, hot takes, and a healthy dose of nuance, Travis breaks down why attacking someone’s past doesn’t automatically invalidate their advice—and why personal responsibility still matters, even in a world full of loud opinions. On this episode we talk about: The viral thread criticizing Dave Ramsey’s bankruptcy history Whether financial advice becomes invalid if the messenger isn’t perfect The reality of “grind seasons” vs. making lifelong sacrifices When online courses are valuable—and when they cross into predatory territory Why people value what they pay for (and ignore what’s free) The difference between accountability and outrage culture Top 3 Takeaways A past mistake doesn’t automatically invalidate present wisdom. Sometimes the lesson is the reason the advice exists. Short-term sacrifice can be necessary—but it should be a phase, not a permanent lifestyle. When people pay, they pay attention. Free information is everywhere, but financial commitment often drives real action. Notable Quotes “Is the advice sound or is it not? That’s what actually matters.” “You don’t have to sacrifice your present for your future—or your future for your present—if you learn how to make more money.” “People spend $1,000 on things that will never make them a dollar back—but hesitate to invest in fixing their financial life.” “Money only solves your money problems—but it’s easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ready to rethink everything you thought you knew about networking? In this revealing preview from Travis Makes Friends, Travis Chappell sits down with behavioral scientist and author Jon Levy to unpack why traditional networking feels gross—and what actually works instead. Jon breaks down the four psychological triggers that open doors with high-level performers: novelty, access to other influential people, generosity without hidden agendas, and the rare emotional state of awe. He explains why powerful leaders don’t need another coffee meeting, how the brain’s novelty center drives curiosity and memory, and why most influential people spend far more time with assistants and staff than at glamorous events—unless something truly different pulls them out. You’ll hear the origin story behind Jon’s now-legendary “secret dinner” series: 12 strangers cooking a terrible meal together—without sharing what they do—only to discover they’re sitting next to Olympians, Nobel laureates, Emmy winners, and even Isiah Thomas. What started as a broke experiment funded with credit cards and cheap vodka turned into a global phenomenon, landing Jon on the cover of The New York Times and transforming his career into designing high-impact experiences for major brands. Travis and Jon also dig into why networking events fail, the psychological reason people feel “dirty” when they network, and why making friends—not collecting business cards—is the real path to opportunity. They explore the mechanics of connection, from shared common ground (what Jon calls “multiplexing relationships”) to proximity, intensity, frequency, and duration—the real forces that determine whether two people bond. If you’ve ever wondered how to meet influential people without feeling transactional, how to stand out without status or money, or how to create environments where awe and genuine connection happen naturally, this preview gives you a front-row seat to the science—and strategy—behind building relationships that actually matter. Hit play to learn why the best networkers don’t network at all—and how you can start creating rooms that change your life.Watch the Full Episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RUrACCORfA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this solo episode, Travis Chappell steps away from interviews and gets back to fundamentals. After more than 1,500 episodes and years immersed in books, conversations, and personal growth, Travis breaks down what he believes is the real path to lasting change. This isn’t about hacks, motivation spikes, or waiting for a lightning bolt of clarity. It’s about awareness, identity, environment, and painful consistency. If you’ve ever felt stuck between who you are and who you want to be, this episode lays out a practical, honest roadmap for closing that gap. On this episode we talk about: Why awareness is the catalyst to all meaningful change The difference between wanting results and becoming the person who gets them Why clarity comes from action—not the other way around How your environment (friends, geography, content) shapes your future The “messy middle” where most people quit—and how to push through it Top 3 Takeaways You can’t change what you won’t acknowledge. Radical self-honesty is the starting point for any transformation. Clarity doesn’t come before action—it comes because of action. Stop treading water and start swimming. Lasting change requires courageous commitment and painful consistency, especially when results aren’t visible yet. Notable Quotes “The pain of staying the same is worse than the pain of changing.” “Clarity comes from action.” “Commitment is where freedom lies.” “Everything good in life is on the other side of the work required to attain it.” Episode Breakdown: The Path to Lasting Change Be Honest About Who You Are – Awareness is the catalyst. Without it, there’s no reason to change. Get Clear on Who You Want to Be – Focus on identity first, not just goals. Write the “day in the life” of your ideal self. Craft Your Environment Intentionally – Your circle, geography, and content inputs either support or sabotage your growth. Commit With Courage and Consistency – Push through the messy middle, where excitement fades but results haven’t arrived yet. Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode, Travis Chappell is joined by his producer Eric for a live reaction and breakdown of a recent housing policy proposal from Donald Trump aimed at banning institutional investors from buying single-family homes. They react to a viral breakdown from Graham Stephan and unpack what’s actually happening beneath the headlines—from inventory shortages and interest rate lock-in to zoning laws and Wall Street narratives. The conversation blends humor, impressions, and real analysis as they explore whether banning big investors would actually make homes more affordable—or accidentally make things worse. On this episode we talk about: Trump’s proposed ban on institutional investors buying single-family homes Whether Wall Street is really driving up housing prices The difference between mega-corporate landlords and mom-and-pop investors How low interest rates created “locked-in” homeowners and inventory shortages Real solutions for affordability: zoning reform, tax incentives, modular housing, and permitting reform Top 3 Takeaways Institutional investors make up a far smaller percentage of home purchases than most headlines suggest—inventory shortages and policy issues may be the bigger drivers. Historically low interest rates created a lock-in effect, discouraging homeowners from selling and reducing available supply. If we truly want affordable housing, reforming zoning laws, streamlining permits, and incentivizing new construction may be more effective than banning investors. Notable Quotes "It’s not just about Wall Street—it’s a perfect storm of low rates, zoning issues, and supply shortages." "If you own a piece of the land where you live, you tend to care more about your community." "Money only solves your money problems—but it’s easier to solve the rest of your problems with money in the bank." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ashley Grace is the Founding CMO of Igniton, a groundbreaking quantum wellness company merging subatomic particle science with integrative health. With a background spanning finance, marketing ROI modeling, ad tech, and big pharma—and as the former founding CMO of Charlotte’s Web—Ashley brings decades of experience at the intersection of innovation and persuasion. On this episode, he breaks down how to market complex, cutting-edge products, why message beats media every time, and what skills will actually make you money in the future of advertising. On this episode we talk about: How Igniton is pioneering “quantum supplementation” and validating it through university studies The challenge of marketing complex or unfamiliar innovations Why your message is 4x more important than your media buying strategy Emotional differentiation vs. feature-based marketing The future of AI in ad creative and what skills marketers should focus on now Top 3 Takeaways What you say matters more than how you say it. The creative message is significantly more impactful than targeting, delivery, or frequency. Emotional resonance wins. Emotional differentiation beats feature differentiation. Customers buy based on emotional outcomes first—then justify with logic. Creative skills will outlast media buying. As AI automates targeting and ad delivery, persuasive messaging and human psychology will become even more valuable. Notable Quotes "What you say is four times more important than how you say it or how often you say it." "Persuasion is real—and there are tools and techniques to use language and visuals to make it more powerful." "Focus on the emotional benefit. The feature just explains why you can deliver it." Connect with Ashley Grace: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleygrace Website: https://igniton.com Podcast: https://ashleyon.com Discount Code: Use code ASHLEY for 15% off your first order  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this solo episode, Travis Chappell gets personal. Instead of interviewing a guest, Travis shares one of the most embarrassing moments of his teenage years—completely missing a handspring in front of his entire summer camp—and uses it to unpack a powerful lesson about fear, failure, and the stories we tell ourselves. With honesty, humor, and perspective, he challenges listeners to stop sacrificing their dream lives to avoid short-term embarrassment. On this episode we talk about: A hilariously painful teenage camp story that felt world-ending at the time Why embarrassment feels permanent—but rarely is How fear of public failure stops people from pursuing their goals The “day in the life” exercise for clarifying your dream lifestyle Reframing risk: small moments of embarrassment vs. long-term fulfillment Top 3 Takeaways Most embarrassing moments feel huge in the moment—but are quickly forgotten by everyone else. Don’t overestimate how much people are thinking about you. The fear of public failure keeps more people broke than lack of skill ever will. If the reward is your dream life, it’s worth risking a few days of discomfort or embarrassment. Notable Quotes "The stupid stuff that you're worried about right now will not matter." "The people who care don’t matter, and the people who matter don’t care." "Stop letting the fear of embarrassment run your life." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of Travis Makes Money, Travis Chappell and producer Eric go from questionable breakfast choices to a surprisingly deep breakdown of housing prices, crypto volatility, inflation, and what actually drives wealth over time. What starts as a lighthearted conversation about gas station hot dogs and Tostino’s pizza turns into a real discussion about reacting to headlines, investing during downturns, and recent housing comments from Donald Trump. The throughline? If you want to make money, you have to think in decades—not days. On This Episode We Talk About: Why emotional reactions hurt your investing returns Whether rising housing prices are actually good for homeowners Institutional investors buying single-family homes The real reason housing prices stay elevated: inventory shortages Crypto downturns and how to think about volatility Inflation, dollar weakness, and protecting purchasing power Why over-leveraging—not price drops—causes financial disasters Top 3 Takeaways You don’t need your house or crypto to be up tomorrow. You need it to be up 20–25 years from now. Wealth compounds for those who can hold. Housing prices won’t meaningfully drop until inventory increases. With only 1–3 months of inventory in many markets, upward pressure remains regardless of policy changes. If inflation weakens the dollar over time, idle cash erodes. Even small investments—done consistently—can protect purchasing power better than letting money sit still. Notable Quotes “I don’t need my house to be worth more tomorrow. I need it to be worth more in 25 years.” “Once you put your first dollar in, you want it to go to the moon.” “Cash sitting in your bank account is getting destroyed by inflation.” “The housing crash wasn’t about prices falling—it was about people not being able to hold.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Website: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by HighLevel – the all-in-one sales & marketing platform built for agencies.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nelson Nigel is the founder and CEO of Kidmoto, a tech-enabled transportation company that provides safe airport transfers with properly installed child car seats. What started in 2016 as a frustrating observation while driving for Uber turned into a seven-figure business operating in 80+ cities globally. After losing everything in real estate during the 2008 crash, driving a New York City yellow cab, and grinding through years of failed ventures, Nelson bootstrapped Kidmoto with just a few hundred dollars and two car seats. Today, the company has completed over 40,000 rides and reached a $25M valuation—without raising outside capital. On this episode we talk about: Identifying a gap Uber and Lyft ignored Bootstrapping a tech company with no outside funding Expanding from one city to 80+ global markets Recruiting drivers in a niche no one believed in Building a profitable, purpose-driven business Top 3 Takeaways Your Best Business Idea Might Come From Your Day Job.Nelson spotted the problem while driving Uber full-time. Instead of complaining, he built the solution. Relentless Work Ethic Wins Early.4:15 a.m. to midnight. Seven days a week. Years of grind before traction. There’s no shortcut for showing up consistently. Solve a Real Pain Point.Traveling with kids is stressful. Kidmoto eliminates one major headache—safe airport transportation with car seats—making it a service parents gladly pay a premium for. Notable Quotes “You just have to be relentless.” “When you’re happy and you love what you’re doing, that’s what it’s about.” “Shoot for the stars—because if you land on the moon, it’s not a bad place to be.” Connect with Nelson Nigel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonnigel/ Other: https://kidmoto.taxi  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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