Travis Makes Money

<p>You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.</p>

Make Money by Avoiding Gambling Debt

In this episode, Travis and his producer Eric react to a call from The Ramsey Show with George Kamel and John Delony, where a 26-year-old caller wrestles with whether to wipe out his $20,000 savings to pay off credit card and truck debt. Using that scenario as a springboard, they dig into the psychology of safety, why cash in the bank feels like a “warm blanket,” and how to make smarter decisions about debt payoff and emergencies—without accidentally rebuilding high-interest debt later. The conversation eventually veers into gambling, new casino tech, and the dangerous allure of hooking your bank account up to slot machines and even Uno tables. On this episode we talk about: Why a $1,000 emergency fund often isn’t enough in real life, even if it sounds good on paper The tradeoff between aggressively attacking debt versus keeping meaningful cash reserves for job loss or life emergencies How gambling debt, sports betting, and new “bank-connected” casino tech can quietly wreck your finances Why having cash while still in debt can be a psychological trap—and why zero cash can be just as dangerous Creative ways to pay down car loans faster (without draining your savings) like extra jobs, lump-sum payments, and clear payoff rules Top 3 Takeaways Credit card debt should go first: if you have the cash to kill high-interest consumer debt—especially from gambling—do it quickly before it snowballs. Staying liquid matters: draining a $20,000 cushion down to $1,000 just to slightly lower a truck balance can backfire if you lose your job or get hit with real emergencies. Systems beat vibes: set clear rules (e.g., “everything above X in savings goes to the loan each quarter”) so you can both protect your downside and make real progress on debt. Notable Quotes "If you have credit card debt that lasts beyond a 30-day cycle, you’re using it wrong." "When you see cash in your account, you think it’s yours—but if you’re in debt, by definition, it’s not; it belongs to your creditors." "Please don’t hook your debit card or bank account up to a slot machine—that’s how you go from ‘just having fun’ to ‘I’m not going home tonight.’" ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-18
17:58

Make Money with the Savannah Bananas

In this episode, Travis and his producer Eric riff on the wild success of Jesse Cole and the Savannah Bananas, a baseball franchise that exploded by obsessing over fan experience instead of traditional revenue models. Using Jesse’s journey from near-bankruptcy to selling out NFL stadiums, they unpack how “fans first” thinking can transform any business, not just sports. On this episode we talk about: Why Jesse Cole eliminated every ad in the stadium and built a business that doesn’t rely on sponsorships How the Savannah Bananas turned low-level summer league baseball into a sellout national phenomenon The power (and risk) of saying no to traditional TV money and insisting on non‑exclusive broadcast deals Why most owners cling to short‑term cash (fees, sponsors, overpriced concessions) instead of long‑term fan loyalty How to apply “fans first” thinking in your own business by overdelivering value and playing a longer game Top 3 Takeaways When you truly put fans first—removing junk fees, overdelivering on experience, and making the product genuinely fun—you create word-of-mouth growth that no ad budget can buy. Long-term vision requires rejecting easy, short-term money; saying no to ads, exclusive rights, or bad-fit sponsorships can unlock far bigger upside later. Disruptors often look “insane” at first, but building for the next 10–20 years instead of the next 10–20 months is how you end up owning the category. Notable Quotes "Nobody walks into a ballpark saying, ‘I can’t wait to see what billboards they have in the outfield.’" "Most people would rather keep the sponsors and the processing fees than mortgage their house to build the experience they actually believe in." "If you massively overdeliver for the people already willing to part with their hard-earned dollars, it’s going to end up going pretty well for you." ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-17
22:34

Make Money with Biblical Principles | Bishop Kevin Foreman

Bishop Kevin Foreman is a visionary leader, entrepreneur, and wealth strategist who has generated and managed millions through ministry, real estate, coaching, and digital ventures. From pioneering his first business at 12 to building Denver’s largest Black-owned mortgage company and leading Harvest Church, he blends biblical principles with bold execution to help people break cycles of lack and step into abundance. On this episode we talk about: How Bishop Foreman combined a “Bible and briefcase” mindset from childhood into a life of purpose and profit Starting a first business at 12, pioneering a youth business loan program, and learning to “stack” cash early Building a multi-million-dollar mortgage company in his early 20s and navigating the 2000s housing collapse How painful pivots led to planting a debt-free church, Bible college, and a portfolio of M&A-driven businesses Why biographies, constant learning, and seeing yourself as a lifelong student are unfair advantages in life and business Top 3 Takeaways Faith and finances are not enemies: when money is treated as a tool for purpose, wealth-building becomes a spiritual assignment, not a selfish pursuit. Seasons of collapse and reinvention (like the mortgage crash) can be the catalyst that pushes you into your real calling—if you’re willing to pivot instead of panic. One of the most underutilized wealth vehicles is buying existing businesses: M&A lets you acquire cash flow, corporate credit, and teams instead of always starting from scratch. Notable Quotes "Money was a tool. Money was a resource. The purpose of obtaining wealth was what I would do with it, not just getting it for its own sake." "The idiot is the one that thinks they know everything. The smart guy sits there and listens as a student." "Sometimes the best move isn’t to build from nothing—it’s to buy what someone else already built and make it better." Connect with Bishop Kevin Foreman: Twitter/X: https://x.com/bishopforeman Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bishopforeman/ Other: https://bishopforeman.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-17
30:20

Make Money with a Small Audience

Producer Eric joins Travis in this episode to break down why creators, podcasters, and business owners do not need millions of followers to build a serious income online. Eric is a veteran content producer and host in his own right, bringing a creator’s eye for monetization strategies, niche positioning, and long-term brand building to the conversation.​ On this episode we talk about: Why a massive audience is not required to make a full-time income as a creator How brands are shifting ad dollars toward small and midsize, niche creators Real examples of niche creators making five figures per month with modest audiences Why CPMs/RPMs vary wildly by niche (finance vs comedy vs generic entertainment) How to think about “blue ocean” opportunities and combining niches like Chiefs + Swifties Top 3 Takeaways You can out-earn much bigger creators by going narrow: a small, high-intent, niche audience often monetizes better than a huge, generic one because sponsors know exactly who they’re reaching. Niche, high-ticket categories (brain health gear, vertical farming, audiophile equipment, real estate, finance) command far better ad rates and affiliate payouts than broad entertainment content. The real lever is fit, not fame: if your content solves a specific problem for a clearly defined group—and you either sell something yourself or attract aligned sponsors—you do not need a massive following to build a multi–six or seven-figure business. Notable Quotes "You don't need to have a million subscribers on YouTube to be able to make a full time income from doing YouTube videos." "Some people will have a half a million subscribers and make less than somebody with 15,000 subscribers, because it's in a very broad market that has really low RPMs." "Sometimes niching down means niching up—you can combine two things you care about and create a blue ocean where there’s literally no competition."​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis​ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-17
22:41

Make Money with Strong Operations | Jason Haugen

Travis sits down with long‑time friend and entrepreneur Jason Haugen to unpack the very real, very unsexy side of building and exiting a nine‑location RV dealership group that peaked at $100M a year—then got crushed by a 70% sales drop and exploding interest costs. After taking some time off, walking through his wife’s cancer battle, and licking his wounds, Jason is now co‑founder and CEO of Black Jet Ventures, acquiring and growing brands with a focus on operations, marketing, and sustainable profitability. On this episode we talk about: How Jason scaled from a few RV stores to nine locations and $100M+ in revenue—and what actually triggered his decision to sell The brutal reality of a market swing: going from 350–400 units a month to 100, floorplan interest jumping from ~$107k to ~$700k, and why revenue can hide operational inefficiencies Losing $20M, having an executive team walk out, sleeping at the office, and how he managed his mental health and focus through calls from the bank and constant crises Why he believes in “grow, then stabilize, then grow” (not growth at all costs), and how over‑expansion can kill a business even when top‑line numbers look impressive What Black Jet Ventures and Iconic Marketing do today—acquiring CPG and media brands, running a major golf‑focused content/marketing agency, and helping founders build real systems, not just hype Top 3 Takeaways Big revenue doesn’t equal real success; without tight operations, intentional growth phases, and clear profitability targets, you can “grow” your way straight into a cash‑flow crisis. Mental resilience in entrepreneurship comes from focusing only on what you can control, staying in motion, and building routines (like golf or other outlets) that let you reset even in the middle of chaos. Sustainable businesses are built by going deep, not just wide: simplifying SKUs, optimizing existing locations, and stabilizing systems before expanding again often leads to far better margins than chasing vanity scale. Notable Quotes “The best thing that ever happened to me was losing $20 million—because I get to take those lessons into everything I do now.” “You can’t grow and stabilize at the same time; you grow, then you stabilize, then you earn the right to grow again.” “If you’re not absolutely crushing it with three locations, adding six more isn’t going to save you—it’s just going to multiply your problems.” Connect with Jason Haugen: https://www.iamjasonhaugen.com/ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-16
24:36

Make Money Faster with AI-Powered Movie Editing | Aden Bahadori & Brett Granstaff

Aden Bahadori and Brett Granstaff join Travis to unpack how AI is about to change the economics of filmmaking and content creation. Aden is an award‑winning editor, post‑production engineer, and longtime Adobe advisor who has cut music videos, TV, and features; Brett is a veteran producer, writer, and actor, and the president/founder of Ridge Rock Entertainment Group with two decades in independent film. Together, they’re building Tachi‑AI, a human‑centric tool that automates the most tedious parts of editing so creatives can spend more time actually telling stories. On this episode we talk about: How Aden went from working for free on music videos to six figures by year two, and how Brett parlayed ADR gigs and “distressed” studio scripts into a producing career What producers actually do, why there are so many different producer credits, and the real split between creative vs. financial producers The origin of Tachi‑AI: Aden’s 2012 dream of an “auto‑edit” button, an early proof of concept (Fast Track), and why now is the moment to bring AI into post‑production How Tachi‑AI ingests raw footage and a script to generate multiple assembly edits—saving editors from hours of slogging through dailies and freeing them to focus on nuance, performance, and story Why they see AI as a creative utility (like AutoCAD for architects), the democratization of filmmaking, and how lower technical barriers can make story—not budget—the real differentiator Top 3 Takeaways The biggest immediate impact of AI in film will be in post‑production, where automating assembly edits and other technical grunt work gives editors and directors more time and energy for true creative decisions. As tools like Tachi‑AI spread, high‑quality visual storytelling will no longer be reserved for massive studio budgets; independent creators will be able to prototype and finish projects faster and cheaper than ever. AI will not replace filmmakers; it will reward those who learn to wield it—by treating it as an assistant that expands their capacity, not a shortcut that replaces taste, judgment, or original stories. Notable Quotes “Our goal isn’t to replace editors; it’s to give them their time and mojo back by killing the most tedious, technical parts of the job.” “Think of it like AutoCAD for filmmakers—the software doesn’t design the building for you, it just lets you explore way more options, way faster.” “As AI democratizes the creative process, the thing that wins isn’t the biggest budget anymore; it’s the strongest story and the most original point of view.” Connect with Tachi‑AI: Website: https://tachi-ai.com  ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-15
27:18

Make Money with the Retail Doctor | Bob Phibbs

Bob Phibbs joins Travis to break down why great retail is really about great human connection—and how that truth is even more important in an AI‑driven world. Known globally as “The Retail Doctor,” Bob has spent decades turning around struggling stores, training more than 250,000 associates, and helping brands like LEGO, Seiko, and Yamaha boost sales with people‑first systems that actually work in the real world. On this episode we talk about: How a paper route, cowboy‑boot sales, and a near‑dead coffee shop across from Starbucks led Bob to create “The Retail Doctor” and land a New York Times business feature The turnaround of a Long Beach coffee roaster that was down 10% a year for eight straight years and facing two nearby Starbucks—and how Bob helped it grow 50% in year one, 40% in year two Why so many retailers die: undertrained staff, no standards, commoditized experiences, and leaders who think customers (not employees) are the “greatest asset” The future of brick‑and‑mortar vs. e‑commerce, why online sales have likely capped around 20%, and how physical stores can win by focusing on discovery, experience, and real conversations How retail work “normalizes” young people—teaching responsibility, resilience, and people skills—and why every aspiring entrepreneur should spend time on a sales floor Top 3 Takeaways Products and locations don’t win in retail—people do. Training front‑line associates to make shoppers feel seen, heard, and helped is the most reliable sales lever any store owner has. E‑commerce and AI will keep eating the easy, transactional parts of shopping, but brick‑and‑mortar thrives when it leans into what online can’t replicate: laughter, serendipity, and genuine human connection. If you’re serious about entrepreneurship, you should treat retail or customer‑facing work as a rite of passage; learning to open hearts and make someone else’s day is foundational to making serious money later. Notable Quotes “It doesn’t matter what I sell; it matters how the person feels when I’m standing in front of them.” “You’re known more for your compromises than for your successes—especially in how you treat your people.” “If you can’t get someone to open their heart to another human being, you’re not going to make money, no matter what business you’re in.” Connect with Bob Phibbs (The Retail Doctor): Website: https://www.retaildoc.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-14
31:50

Make Money by Being Polarizing

Travis and producer Eric dig into an old clip from 2019 where a 27‑year‑old Travis explains why polarizing beliefs and “true fans” are critical for creators and entrepreneurs. Using that as a jumping‑off point, they talk candidly about content, integrity, legacy, and what it means to build an audience your future kids can look up—and cringe—at. On this episode we talk about: Whether Travis still agrees with his past take that 100 “true fans” can fuel a multi‑seven‑figure business The difference between healthy polarization (clear beliefs and opinions) and cheap outrage or political hot‑takes How becoming a parent changed the way Travis thinks about what he says online and the digital footprint his kids will one day see The pressure and temptation to use extreme hooks (“you’ll never be a millionaire if…”) versus playing the long game with trust and authenticity Why Travis believes entrepreneurs who refuse to create content will be “left in the dust” over the next decade Top 3 Takeaways You don’t need millions of casual followers; a relatively small group of true fans who deeply trust you can support a highly profitable business. Being “polarizing” doesn’t require rage‑bait or politics—it means taking clear, defensible stances on ideas you actually believe, even if others disagree. As an entrepreneur, publishing content is no longer optional; showing up consistently online is becoming a baseline requirement for long‑term relevance and opportunity. Notable Quotes “If you talk to everybody, you’re talking to nobody—lines in the sand are what turn listeners into true fans.” “If I wouldn’t feel in integrity saying it to my kids one day, I’m not going to say it just for clicks.” “If you’re refusing to create content as an entrepreneur, you’re going to be left in the dust in the next ten years." ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-14
17:55

Make Money with the Smartest Investment Strategies | Daniel Solin

Daniel Solin joins Travis to explain why most investors are overcomplicating things and quietly lighting their wealth on fire. A former Wall Street attorney who spent decades representing clients burned by bad brokers, Daniel became a New York Times bestselling author of the “Smartest” series of investing books and now focuses on helping ordinary people outperform most professionals with a no‑nonsense, low‑cost strategy. On this episode we talk about: How 30 years as a securities lawyer opened Daniel’s eyes to how often brokers harm clients while putting their own commissions first Why most “experts” don’t actually know how to beat the market—and why the real experts are the researchers publishing peer‑reviewed data, not pundits on TV The core strategy: broad‑market index and ETF investing, keeping fees ultra‑low, not timing the market, and doing as little trading as possible Red flags when hiring an advisor, including complex portfolios, stock‑picking, market‑timing promises, and products stuffed with hidden costs and conflicts How to think about crypto, real estate, and other speculative plays versus your core, set‑it‑and‑forget‑it retirement portfolio Top 3 Takeaways Most people don’t need an advisor or a complex strategy; owning low‑cost, globally diversified index or ETF funds and leaving them alone will beat the vast majority of active managers over time. Fees, turnover, and advisor conflicts quietly erode returns; simple, transparent portfolios almost always outperform complicated, high‑fee “genius” strategies. Treat speculative assets like crypto or concentrated real estate deals as gambling with a small slice of your net worth—never as the foundation of your long‑term financial security. Notable Quotes “Investing is really simple: do as little as possible, ignore almost everything you see in the financial media, and capture the total return of the market at the lowest possible cost.” “Wall Street has a vested interest in making investing look complicated so you feel forced to use them—even though complexity usually just means higher fees and lower returns.” “If you buy one broad stock‑market fund and a short‑term Treasury fund in your 30s, then barely touch it for decades, you’ll likely beat 95% of professionally managed money.” Connect with Daniel Solin: https://danielsolin.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-13
27:56

Make Money Without Insane Car Payments and Destroying Relationships

Travis brings producer Eric into the virtual studio for a late‑night, high‑energy reaction episode on how money, status, and expectations collide in modern relationships. Using viral clips about insane car payments, a rejected Walmart engagement ring, and a boyfriend insisting on separate finances and a prenup, they break down what these decisions reveal about values, red flags, and long‑term wealth building. On this episode we talk about: Why multi‑thousand‑dollar car payments are almost always a wealth killer, not a “flex” The viral story of a woman rejecting an $898 Walmart engagement ring and what it says about priorities How the wedding industry exploits “once in a lifetime” emotions and traps couples in years of debt When prenups make sense, what they actually do (vs. the myths), and why they’re different from keeping money separate Why shared financial values and a common mission matter more than ring size, wedding cost, or follower count Top 3 Takeaways Massive payments on depreciating assets like cars are usually a sign of poor financial priorities; if you want to build wealth, avoid over‑leveraging on status items. Engagement rings and weddings are symbols, not investments—if they’re forcing you into debt or exposing deep value misalignment, that’s a relationship red flag, not “romance.” A prenup can be smart planning, but separate finances inside a marriage often signal that you’re not truly on the same team; long‑term success requires a shared mission and transparent money conversations. Notable Quotes “If you want to build wealth, don’t get a $3,700 car payment—that’s not a flex, that’s financial self‑sabotage.” “You’re not owed a $10,000 ring or a six‑figure wedding—love doesn’t magically make more money appear.” “Marriage is a partnership and a shared mission; if you’re sharing a bed and kids but not money, something’s off.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-13
32:45

Make Money by Deleting Clubhouse

Travis and producer Eric perform a tongue‑in‑cheek “autopsy” on the rise and fall of Clubhouse, revisiting a 2021 conversation with Jordan Harbinger where they questioned whether the app could ever compete with podcasting. They unpack why a product that looked brilliant on paper—and raised money at a $4B valuation—collapsed so quickly, and what creators, founders, and marketers should learn before betting their careers on the next hype platform. On this episode we talk about: What Clubhouse actually was (live, invite‑only audio rooms) and why early hype convinced many people it might “kill podcasting” Why Travis and Jordan were skeptical from the start: no on‑demand listening, chaotic audio quality, unqualified speakers, and a format that demanded hours of real‑time attention How follower counts and moderator status created a hollow, status‑driven game that rarely translated into real audience or revenue The psychological moment Travis realized the opportunity cost—half‑listening to a room while missing time with his infant son—and decided to walk away even if Clubhouse “won” How a few marketers did monetize the app (treating rooms like live webinars), and why podcasts and audiobooks still win for durable, compounding content and leverage Top 3 Takeaways Any platform that requires constant real‑time presence, but doesn’t create durable assets (episodes, clips, searchable archives), is risky as a primary growth strategy. Vanity metrics and FOMO can lure smart people into massive time sinks; always weigh status and follower counts against actual business outcomes and life trade‑offs. Long‑form, on‑demand media like podcasts remain powerful because they respect the listener’s time, allow deep preparation, and compound over years instead of disappearing after one live session. Notable Quotes “Clubhouse was like a podcast that doesn’t get recorded, done by everybody on AirPods, with eight unprepared guests, none of whom are qualified to talk.” “I realized I was half‑present with my son just to ‘be a mod’ and chase followers on an app that might not exist in a year—that was a terrible trade.” “Even if this is the next Instagram, I’m okay not ‘winning’ here if the time cost means sacrificing what actually matters.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-12
31:58

Make Money Knocking Doors in Solar | Steven Cohen

Travis reconnects with long‑time friend and solar sales leader Steven Cohen to break down how door‑to‑door solar has created life‑changing income for thousands of reps—and why the recent merger of Sunder Energy with publicly traded SunPower has only strengthened that opportunity. From early days earning a few hundred dollars per kilowatt to today’s multi‑thousand‑dollar commissions, Steven explains how the industry has evolved, what the new legislation means, and why performance‑based sales is still one of the fastest paths out of a capped paycheck. On this episode we talk about: How Sunder Energy grew into one of the largest solar sales dealerships in the U.S. and why SunPower acquired it to power their third‑party ownership (TPO/lease/PPA) strategy going into 2026 What the recent “big, beautiful bill” did to tax credits, why homeowners will lose the 30% credit on ownership, and how finance companies now use that credit on TPO to lower customer costs Current solar commissions (often $700–$800+ per kW and even higher in some markets), realistic income potential for committed reps, and why many people are now earning the same money on less volume The realities of 100% commission work—no base, no benefits, but unlimited upside—and why solar, pest control, alarms, and similar models are better viewed as businesses than jobs How industry corrections, higher interest rates, and weak operators have shaken out tourists from solar—and why those who stay, build teams, and play the long game are best positioned for the next upswing Top 3 Takeaways Performance‑based sales can compress your earning timeline dramatically, but only if you treat it like a business, manage volatility, and stay in the game when conditions get hard instead of chasing the next “easy” industry. Door‑to‑door isn’t just about commission checks; it forges rare skills in communication, resilience, team building, and leadership that transfer to any future venture or career. Solar is still a long‑term growth industry despite short‑term corrections; as energy demand soars with AI, data centers, and crypto, those who remain and level up through this cycle are likely to benefit most from the next boom. Notable Quotes “Profits are better than wages—any time you can be paid on the value you create instead of the hours you clock, you give yourself a real shot at financial freedom.” “It’s never just about your comp plan; it’s about what you believe you’re worth and whether you’re willing to bet on your performance instead of your time.” “Most people play the finite game and quit when a cycle turns; if you can stay planted for a decade in the right vehicle, you usually win by simply outlasting everyone else.” Connect with Steven Cohen: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevencohen/?hl=en ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-12
32:25

Make Money Learning from Immigrant Entrepreneurs | Neri Karra Sillaman

Neri Karra Sillaman joins Travis to unpack why immigrant entrepreneurs are disproportionately likely to build enduring, billion‑dollar businesses. Drawing on her journey from refugee child expelled from Bulgaria, to founder of a 25‑year‑old leather goods company, to PhD and entrepreneurship expert at Oxford University, Neri shares the eight principles from her book Pioneers: Eight Principles of Business Longevity from Immigrant Entrepreneurs and how any founder can apply them. On this episode we talk about: Neri’s family being expelled from Bulgaria with two suitcases, becoming refugees in Turkey, and how that shaped her obsession with education as a path to a better life Coming to the University of Miami at 18, discovering that the Intel chip in the computer lab was created by a refugee, and how that reframed her identity as an immigrant Launching a sustainable leather goods brand by repurposing surplus luxury Italian leather, and eventually manufacturing for houses like Prada and Miu Miu Why nearly half of Fortune 500 companies and the vast majority of billion‑dollar startups have immigrant founders or executives, and what she calls the eight “pioneer” principles behind that success How cross‑cultural bridging, future‑back vision, deep community orientation, humility, and a lack of entitlement help immigrant entrepreneurs spot opportunities and build companies that last Top 3 Takeaways Immigrant founders often win because they blend cultures, see problems from multiple vantage points, and design solutions informed by their past while building toward a very clear future vision. A strong sense of non‑entitlement—expecting to earn every opportunity—and humility in leadership (inviting employees, suppliers, and communities into the solution) are core to long‑term business resilience. Treating your company as part of an ecosystem, not the center of the universe, leads to healthier relationships with suppliers, employees, institutions, and even the environment, which supports business longevity. Notable Quotes “Being an immigrant is not something to hide; it can be the very source of the ideas and resilience that build great companies.” “You are not a star operating alone—your company is only as healthy as the ecosystem it’s a part of.” “You can’t have ego in this game; you can’t take rejection personally when you’re building something that matters.” Connect with Neri Karra Sillaman: https://nerispeaks.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-11
32:56

Make Money by Being a Better Interviewer

Eric and Travis react to a clip of Riaz Meghji. Riaz breaks down the craft of powerful conversations, drawing on his two decades as a TV host, human connection keynote speaker, and author of Every Conversation Counts. Known for helping leaders build meaningful relationships in a distracted, digital-first world, Riaz shares practical frameworks any creator, entrepreneur, or interviewer can use to unlock deeper stories and stronger trust with guests, clients, and audiences.​ On this episode we talk about: Why Riaz lost his first MTV Canada hosting job, what imposter syndrome looked like on camera, and how not burning bridges brought him back to the network later The mindset shift from “how do I look?” to “how do I light up the person watching?” and why focusing on the audience changes everything about how you show up How to “overprepare to improvise” so research gives you confidence, but listening and curiosity drive the actual conversation Simple phrasing shifts—like “tell me about,” “take me back,” and “set the scene”—that turn flat Q&A into emotional, story-rich dialogue Practical ways to ask for stories you “can’t Google,” especially with highly interviewed guests, and how that leads to more memorable content and relationships Top 3 Takeaways The best interviews prioritize the audience and the guest, not the host’s ego; your job is to unlock stories and insights that genuinely serve the listener. Overpreparation plus improvisation is the winning combo: know your guest’s world deeply, then be willing to drop the script when something more alive shows up. Asking for specific moments and stories instead of abstract answers creates emotional connection, builds trust faster, and makes your content stand out. Notable Quotes “The opportunity to unlock something unique, personal, and something you can’t Google is always there—but only if you stop obsessing over how you look on camera.” “Overprepare to improvise: do the work beforehand, then lean into listening so you can follow what actually matters in the room.” “Emotion is what connects us; when you ask for a story, people don’t just hear information—they feel like they’re living the moment with you.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-11
36:22

Make Money to Buy More Happiness

Travis and producer Eric tackle one of the most common questions in personal finance and self‑help: can money really buy happiness? They dig into research on income and life satisfaction, talk through how money affects freedom and options, and explore cautionary tales of wealthy people who became slaves to greed. The conversation ultimately reframes money as a powerful tool—one that can remove money problems and expand your choices, but can’t fix who you are on the inside. On this episode we talk about: What happiness research actually says about income thresholds and why the happiness “boost” from more money flattens out once basic needs and comfort are met How money amplifies your character—making generous people more generous and greedy people more dangerous—and why being broke or rich can both turn you into a slave to money if you’re not careful Stories of investors and executives who risked everything for “one more” big win, versus those who hit their number and chose time, relationships, and impact over endless accumulation The idea that money only solves money problems—and why removing financial stress can free up mental and emotional bandwidth to work on purpose, relationships, health, and fulfillment Practical encouragement to pursue wealth unapologetically while simultaneously working on your mindset, values, and skills so you can handle money well when it arrives Top 3 Takeaways Money doesn’t directly buy happiness beyond a certain baseline, but it absolutely buys options, time, and stress relief—all of which make it easier to pursue the things that do drive long‑term happiness. You can be equally enslaved to money whether you have none or have a lot; the difference is whether you control money as a tool or let it control your decisions, identity, and integrity. The healthiest path is to grow your character and your net worth at the same time—so that when you do become wealthy, you’re the kind of person who uses that wealth to improve life for yourself and others. Notable Quotes "If you’re going to be unhappy, you’d rather be unhappy with money than without it—but the real win is using money to remove money problems so you can focus on everything else." "Money is just an amplifier; if you’re a crappy person, money will make you a crappier person. If you’re a good person, money will make you a better version of yourself." "Unapologetically pursue money, but don’t worship it—treat it as a tool to buy back your time, support the people you love, and fund the impact you want to have." ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-10
25:53

Make Money by Becoming Non‑Needy | Keith Yackey

Keith Yackey joins Travis to talk about the surprising overlap between making more money and having a thriving marriage. A former contractor, pastor, and real estate investor who built a seven‑figure online business in 14 months, Keith now runs Married Game, where he helps men become the most attractive version of themselves for themselves—and, as a byproduct, for their wives. From proof‑of‑funds tools in real estate to high‑ticket relationship coaching, Keith has consistently turned conviction, collaboration, and personal transformation into serious income.​ On this episode we talk about: How Keith turned a painful separation from his wife Jessi into the foundation for Married Game and a business built on leading from what he actually lives​ The real estate proof‑of‑funds service that became his “easiest $2 million” and what it taught him about solving specific problems for existing audiences​ Why he believes being rich can be one of the most spiritual journeys you can pursue, especially if you grew up with “money is evil” messaging in church culture​ The mindset shift from needing to impress others to simply doing what you say you’ll do, paying people fast, and becoming radically non‑needy in business and relationships​ How surrounding himself with wealthier friends, adopting a white‑belt mentality, and paying off a 14‑year‑old $50k debt at a doorstep full of family changed his internal peace and external opportunities​ Top 3 Takeaways The same skills that make you good at business—having a great product, serving people well, taking responsibility—also make you good at marriage; most men simply refuse to apply them at home.​ Money is a neutral amplifier and a scoreboard for value at scale; mastering it lets you contribute more to the causes and people you care about, instead of being a lifelong slave to financial stress.​ Non‑neediness is a cheat code: when you keep your word, pay people quickly, and detach from impressing others, you become more attractive to high‑level partners, clients, and friends.​ Notable Quotes “If you believed about business what most people believe about marriage—that it just gets worse after a couple of years—you’d never invest a dime in a company.”​ “Being rich might be one of the most spiritual journeys you can go on, because it forces you to become more valuable to the people around you.”​ “Do what you say you’re going to do, when you say you’re going to do it, without fault—that one rule has built my reputation and set me free.”​ Connect with Keith Yackey: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keithyackey​ Married Game: https://marriedgame.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-10
40:42

Make Money by Avoiding Lifestyle Creep

Travis and producer Eric break down how “lifestyle creep” quietly traps people in careers and businesses they don’t even like. Using Travis’s own journey—from upgrading houses and stuffing the biggest U‑Haul available, to downsizing into an 800 sq ft apartment with his brother‑in‑law so he could rebuild—this episode shows how controlling lifestyle and expenses can buy the freedom to switch careers, start a business, and actually enjoy the process. On this episode we talk about: How innocently “just upgrading a little” turns into bigger houses, pools, and piles of stuff that quietly dictate your career choices The story of walking away from a big Vegas house, throwing away and selling most possessions, and moving into a tiny apartment to make room for a new business chapter The real cost of “nice things” like backyard pools—and how ongoing utilities, maintenance, and repairs add up far beyond the install price Why most people use money from work they dislike to finance a lifestyle they don’t really care about, locking themselves into golden handcuffs Practical ways to improve your lifestyle without killing your margin for growth, including setting income/expense targets and channeling surplus into skills, networks, and investments Top 3 Takeaways If you don’t consciously tell your money where to go, lifestyle creep will decide for you—there is always a nicer car, neighborhood, or upgrade waiting to absorb the raise you just got. Freedom comes from the gap between what you earn and what you spend; increasing income only helps if you keep your lifestyle intentionally below your means and invest the difference. You can have most of what you want—just not all of it right now; delaying some gratification to build skills, relationships, and assets can compress your timeline to real wealth by decades. Notable Quotes "If you don’t give your money a job, it will start doing whatever it wants—usually in the form of upgrades you didn’t actually need." "Most people are doing work they don’t like to pay for a lifestyle that doesn’t really matter to them, and that trade keeps them stuck." "Your attitude matters more than your circumstances; plenty of people with far less than you are far happier, because they’re not trying to impress anyone." ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-09
23:35

Make Money with Predictable Profits | Charles Gaudet

Travis sits down with entrepreneur and “CEO Whisperer” Charles Gaudet, founder and CEO of Predictable Profits, to unpack how real momentum—not just ideas—creates lasting success. From launching his first “business” at four years old to building a multimillion‑dollar company in his twenties and helping clients add over $100M in revenue, Charles explains why most owners cap out on hard work, how to think about setbacks, and why—if he started over today—he’d buy a business instead of starting from scratch. On this episode we talk about: Charles’s early exposure to entrepreneurship through his father, his first art “business” at age four, and the conviction it took to ignore college pressure to get a job Why entrepreneurship is a springboard—up, down, then higher up again—and how your peer group and spouse can either pull you back to “70 degrees” or push you into your next level The difference between treating setbacks as proof you should quit versus training yourself to ask, “Why could this be the best thing that’s happening to me right now?” How consistent, imperfect action and momentum beat “perfect strategies,” and why most owners stall when they rely only on hard work, word of mouth, and referrals Why Charles would buy a business today instead of starting one, what he looks for in acquisitions (recurring revenue, low owner dependency, scalable marketing), and how that compares to real estate’s capped returns Top 3 Takeaways Sustainable success is driven by momentum, not a single “genius idea”—showing up consistently, tracking what works, and compounding small wins eventually creates the “overnight” avalanche. Who you surround yourself with matters: if your circle sits at “70 degrees,” they will unconsciously pull you back whenever you try to cool off or heat up, so keep upgrading your peer group and protect your mindset. Buying a business can be a faster path to income and upside than starting from zero, especially when you acquire existing cash flow, systems, and recurring revenue that can be scaled rather than built from scratch. Notable Quotes "A business doesn’t succeed or fail because of a good idea or a bad idea—it lives or dies on momentum." "Consistent, imperfect execution beats a perfect strategy that never gets implemented—every single time." "If I were starting over today, I wouldn’t start a business—I’d buy one and then grow the momentum that’s already there." Connect with Charles Gaudet: Website: predictableprofits.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-09
34:17

Make Money Getting Started in Real Estate (Without Waiting for the “Perfect” Deal)

Travis and Eric sit down for a candid conversation about how beginners should actually get started in real estate—without overthinking strategy or blindly trusting gurus. Drawing on Travis’s own “real estate dabbler” experience and recent insights from billion‑dollar multifamily operator Veena Jetti, they break down mindset, risk, education, and why doing a small, imperfect first deal usually beats sitting on the sidelines. On this episode we talk about: Why there’s so much conflicting advice on “where to start” (house hack, flip, small multifamily, or go straight to big apartments) Veena Jetti’s perspective on skipping single‑family and going directly into multifamily—and when that’s realistic versus paralyzing Creative ways to get into deals without being the one writing the big check, from finding and structuring deals to partnering and earning equity The risks of trusting operators you don’t understand, the importance of knowing how the deal makes money, and why “just give it to the expert” can backfire How Airbnb shifted from easy arbitrage to a hospitality business, and why hotels and experiential short‑term rentals may now have the edge Top 3 Takeaways The best “first strategy” is the one you will actually execute; do a real deal—any reasonable, understandable deal—rather than spending years trying to pick the perfect niche. Never invest in a deal you can’t clearly explain, especially when you’re handing money to an operator; understand how value is created, where it can break, and what your actual risk is. Real estate is a business, not a magic passive ATM: whether it’s multifamily, flips, or Airbnb, expect real work, real learning, and some paid tuition in the form of mistakes along the way. Notable Quotes "If you sit on the sidelines trying to decide your strategy for five years, you’re losing money and time—go do something." "Don’t assume that because someone knows more than you, they know everything; if you can’t explain how the deal makes money, you shouldn’t be wiring money into it." "Airbnb today is closer to running a hotel than owning a rental—it’s hospitality, not a set‑and‑forget investment. ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-08
35:33

Make Money with an Athlete Database | Ryan Rottman

Travis sits down with actor‑turned‑entrepreneur Ryan Rottman, cofounder of AthleteAgent.com, an IMDb‑style database for the sports world. From training as a business major and actor at Texas Tech to navigating constant rejection in Hollywood, Ryan shares how thick skin, relationships, and a love of sports led him to build the most extensive searchable sports database online, alongside partners like Aaron Rodgers and Nate Robb. On this episode we talk about: How Ryan’s early trading and acting work out of college built the financial runway and mindset he needed to pursue creative projects What acting teaches about rejection, resilience, and treating yourself as a business—and how those lessons transfer directly into startups and fundraising The origin story of AthleteAgent.com, modeled after IMDb but built to centralize athlete data, representation info, and off‑field opportunities Why most athletes beyond the top 1% are massively under‑monetized, and how better visibility can unlock endorsements, podcast bookings, investments, and partnerships The realities of building a tech platform from scratch—finding dev teams, talking to 100+ investors, and expanding from 10 sports toward a global, 50+ sport footprint Top 3 Takeaways Acting and entrepreneurship share the same core skill: moving from “no” to “no” without losing enthusiasm, while treating every experience as training for the next opportunity. Athletes are brands, and most are dramatically under‑leveraged off the field; centralized, accurate data and contact info unlocks deals for the other 99%, not just superstars. Long‑term success often comes from repurposing skills and networks—Ryan used his IMDb experience, sports relationships, and business training to spot an obvious gap and fill it with AthleteAgent.com. Notable Quotes "As an actor, you are your own business—rejection is daily, and your job is to keep showing up until the right role hits." "IMDb changed my acting career because people could actually find my reps; I realized nothing like that existed for athletes." "We didn’t build AthleteAgent for the top 1%—we built it so the other 99% can finally be found, booked, and paid." Connect with Ryan Rottman: Website (AthleteAgent): athleteagent.com Instagram: @ryanrottman ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-08
36:49

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