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Join married couple Kay and John as they cover some of the lesser known true crime cases. In this bi-weekly podcast, Kay presents the case to both the audience and John at the same time, so they can react together. We pride ourselves on the research we conduct and the respect we show to victims. We hope you enjoy!
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Three members of the Colegrove family were brutally murdered in their home during a thunderstorm in a Pennsylvania town of roughly 379 people. Is the killer walking among them or is it the residents of the town that can help detectives find out who the killer is with their inside knowledge of the family.  Patreon.com/truecrimecouple Sponsors: Uncommon Goods uncommongoods.com/tcc for 15% off! Sources: https://law.justia.com/cases/pennsylvania/superior-court/2020/1220-mda-2019.html Newspaper articles arcdieved through Newspapers.com from: The Star-Gazette Times Tribune Citizen's Voice Press and un Bulletin 2007-2009
Join us as we read creepy stories from our listeners. Thank you for all that submitted! If your story did not appear in this episode it will be next week's Patreon episode. Happy Halloween!
On Monday October 19, 1970 in the midst of the Manson family murder trials and with two serial killers on the loose, both the Zodiac and the Co-ed Killer, firefighters in Soquel, CA discover the bodies of five people in the swimming pool of a wealthy home in the Santa Cruz mountains. Through a note left at the scene a murderous cult took responsibility for the Ohta family murders. Join me as I tell John just what happened and who was responsible.  Sponsors: Ibiana Unlock your inner wit today by downloading the Ibiana app and sign up. Or get more information at ibiana.com. Join the hunt today (it’s free).  Sources: https://law.justia.com/cases/california/supreme-court/3d/5/287.html https://projects.scpr.org/timelines/capital-punishment-in-california/ https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Santa-Cruz-mass-murderer-kills-self-in-prison-3221281.php https://history.santacruzpl.org/omeka/files/original/571aa1b2b278eb1f40c3970e109bbcb4.PDF https://lookout.co/i-wanted-to-see-the-co-ed-killer-in-a-wheelchair-old-and-broken-down-revisiting-edmund-kemper/ https://www.sfweekly.com/archives/yesterday-s-crimes-the-santa-cruz-serial-killer-epidemic/article_9b3d46d5-6be8-5fc0-9779-93e77924685a.html Murder in California: Rage and Revenge  By Marques Vickers, 2021 Accessed through Everand Newspaper articles from the Santa Cruz Sentinel from October 20, 1970-November 23, 1973 accessed through Newspapers.com
On June 8, 2017 a call came into Montgomery County, MO dispatch. The two people on the line stated that someone had been found dead inside a large snake breeding facility and one of the large snakes was not accounted for. When deputies got on the scene they were terrified and had no idea what they were in for. Had someone been killed by a snake or had this been a cold blooded murder? Sponsors:  Hometown Ghost Stories Watch Hometown Ghost Stories live on YouTube, Tuesday nights at 9pm eastern; or catch the podcast on Wednesdays on any podcast platform. Listen to terrifying ghost stories from all around the world, or go to hometownghoststories.com to submit your own. IQ Bar Products To get your twenty percent off, just text TCC to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Sources: https://www.courttv.com/trials/mo-v-renick-2021/ https://www.courts.mo.gov/file.jsp?id=198075 https://abc17news.com/news/top-stories/2022/08/16/attorney-wants-murdered-mans-wife-barred-from-inheritance-payouts/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W_WPo3g_VY Archived newspapers articles from: Columbia Daily Tribune, Springfield News-Leader, Missouri States Times, and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch between June 2017 and May 2023
As all news does in a high school, rumors of what happened to bright, beautiful, athletic Emma Walker spread like wildfire. Some said that she had died by suicide, but most couldn’t believe that. Her life was perfect. She had a great boyfriend, she was a cheerleader, and had a close circle of friends. It just didn’t seem like it could be true. But if Emma Walker did not harm herself, it meant that something far more sinister happened…that someone had wanted to hurt her. Now that didn’t sound too far from the truth because in the days prior to her death odd things had been happening to the 16 year old girl.  Patreon: Patreon.com/truecrimecouple Don’t forget to send your listener stories to truecrimecouple@gmail.com Sponsors: Miracle Made Go to TryMiracle.com/TCC and use the code TCC to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OF Sources: https://www.wbir.com/article/news/local/teen-dating-violence-red-flags-from-someone-who-lived-through-it/51-f28f6a14-dbd7-4f0c-bca4-47cd37f7c435 (talking about relationship - mom) https://www.newspapers.com/image/777866500/?match=1&terms=emma%20walker https://www.newspapers.com/image/777847139/?match=1&terms=emma%20walker https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2018/05/02/william-riley-gaul-trial-witnesses-detail-staged-kidnapping-before-central-high-cheerleader-slain/570824002/ Google view of the home: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0364202,-83.9765422,3a,75y,159.82h,86.13t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saCY5BTqOUoBf2DIMyKFr_g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DaCY5BTqOUoBf2DIMyKFr_g%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D159.82049548311872%26pitch%3D3.868277855724372%26thumbfov%3D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu If you or someone you know is suffering from domestic violence help is available Speak with someone today 800-799-7233 or text BEGIN to 88788 National Domestic Violence Hotline Languages: English, Spanish and 200+ through interpretation service Hours: 24/7
On August 30, 2011 the body of Jennifer Webb was found beside her SUV near a drainage ditch in Buena Vista, MI. What police think initially is a suicide turns out to be a case that will shake them to their very core. Trigger Warnings: Discussions of suicide and violence against a pregnant woman Send in your listener stories to truecrimecouple@gmail.com Sponsors: Magic Mind You have a limited offer you can use now, that gets you up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one time purchases with code TCC at checkout You can claim it at: https://magicmind.com/tcc Miracle Made Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to TryMiracle.com/TCC and use the code TCC to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Thank you Miracle Made for sponsoring this episode! Sources: https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/us/mi/buena-vista-township/crime-rate-statistics#:~:text=The%20Buena%20Vista%20Township%20MI,a%200.22%25%20decline%20from%202016. https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend https://www.911.gov/assets/2021-911-Profile-Database-Report_FINAL.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4411039/ Buena Vista Township MI Crime Rate 1999-2018 | MacroTrends https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/saginaw/name/jennifer-webb-obituary?id=21780242 https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/2012/09/jennifer_webbs_mother_sister_t.html Source 8 Source 9 Source 10
Introducing a NEW investigation from the BBC’s World of Secrets podcast: The Apartheid Killer. All the victims were black and the youngest was just 12 years old. Some relatives are still searching for the graves. They were killed during a three-year bloodbath in the 1980s, in the South African city of East London – by one person. He killed so many, he lost count. It has been 30 years since the white supremacist apartheid regime crumbled. The unresolved trauma of this time has cast a long shadow across a nation. In piecing together this story, the new season of World of Secrets exposes the disturbed past and racial injustices of South Africa itself. Search for World of Secrets, wherever you get your podcasts. World of Secrets is the BBC podcast about the stories they don’t want told. Delve into a World of Secrets – major BBC global investigations and gripping storytelling. Holding the powerful to account and exposing scandals around the world.
Jake Millison was last seen leaving the ranch he called home on May 16, 2015 by his mother. He would often leave for long term jobs in other states, but after he was not heard from for two months he was finally reported missing. Investigators would have to make up for a lot of missed time in order to solve the mystery of the 7-11 Ranch. (Solved case) Sponsors: Miracle Made TryMiracle.com/TCC and use the code TCC to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF Sources: https://www.ranchflip.com/ranch/12923 https://www.gunnisontimes.com/articles/idyllic-ranch-rocked-by-murder/ https://quartzcreekrides.wixsite.com/711-ranch/about2#:~:text=About%20the%207%2D11,Open%20from%20May%20to%20November. https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/10/colorado-gunnison-ranch-murder/ https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/194409383/marion-adam-rudibaugh Source 6 https://www.co7da.org/stephanie-jackson-plea/ https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/10/colorado-gunnison-ranch-murder/ Archived newspaper articles from the Gunnison County Times, The Crested Butte, the Denver Post, and the Denver Gazette through Newspapers.com
In the early morning hours of June 2, 2009 a thunderstorm broke the constant quiet that existed in the Amish community of Apple Creek, OH. Inside the well kept two story white house the occupants slept fretfully because of the storm. What they did not know was that the loud noises outside were nothing compared to the danger that had sneaked its way inside. A figure walked its way through the unlocked house and down the hall to the main bedroom. They readied themselves to shoot the rifle they had brought with them. Temporarily they were illuminated by a bright flash of lighting and as a thunderclap roared its way through the house they fired the gun. The children slept on none the wiser that their lives had just been shattered by the murder of their mother.  Sources: Olsen, Gregg, and Rebecca Morris. A Killing in Amish Country: Sex, Betrayal, and a Cold-Blooded Murder. St. Martin’s Press, 2016.  Purchase the book! Articles found in the Akron Beacon Journal, accessed through Newspapers.com  https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ga-supreme-court/1294613.html https://appgateway.drc.ohio.gov/OffenderSearch/Search/Details/A573154 https://amishamerica.com/amish-technology-friendliness/ https://amishamerica.com/who-are-the-andy-weaver-amish/ https://www.amishbaskets.com/blogs/blog/amish-ordnung
In the early morning hours following the 4th of July celebrations in Moorpark, CA a security guard spots what he assumed was a drunk driving incident. But when he approached the accident he realized something more sinister had occurred at the intersection between Highway 23 and Los Angeles Avenue. The investigation that would follow would reveal the depth to which humanity could reach.  Sponsor: Miracle Made Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to TryMiracle.com/TCC and use the code TCC to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Thank you Miracle Made for sponsoring this episode! Sources: Google Maps of area (crash) https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-court-of-appeal/1465032.html https://international-spr.com/2021/06/10/haunted-lands-in-southern-california-the-santa-susana-mountains/ https://www.oxygen.com/homicide-for-the-holidays/megan-barroso-killed-by-vincent-sanchez-4th-of-july Angels Are Watching by J.D. Berger publisher: AuthorHouse 2005 (accessed through Everand in July of 2024) Amazon Link for Angels Are Watching https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-may-07-me-rbriefs7.1-story.html https://www.newspapers.com/image/190352861/?match=1&terms=Joshua%20Reno https://www.newspapers.com/image/776771692/?match=1&terms=simi%20valley%20rapist https://www.newspapers.com/image/929034645/?match=1&terms=simi%20valley%20rapist https://www.newspapers.com/image/928934219/?match=1&terms=simi%20valley%20rapist https://www.newspapers.com/image/160495259/?match=1&terms=simi%20valley%20rapist https://www.newspapers.com/image/160393340/?match=1&terms=simi%20valley%20rapist https://www.newspapers.com/image/935440033/?match=1&terms=simi%20valley%20rapist https://www.newspapers.com/image/161659644/?match=1&terms=simi%20valley%20rapist https://www.newspapers.com/image/159650673/?match=1&terms=simi%20valley%20rapist Black Canyon Road View - Google Earth
Two days after she had run away and returned home 14 year old Kristy Ohnstad went missing from her home in the Happy Valley neighborhood of Bellingham, WA. The investigation that followed would reveal an evil so diabolical no one saw it coming.  Patreon.com/truecrimecouple Sponsors: IQ BAR To get your twenty percent off, just text TCC to 64-000. Get your discount.  Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Sources: https://cob.org/services/planning/neighborhoods https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/wa-supreme-court/1480415.html https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/160207745/kristy-lynn-ohnstad Distance from home to middle school https://www.newspapers.com/image/770914597/?match=1&terms=Kristy%20ohnstad https://www.newspapers.com/image/770923992/?match=1&terms=Kristy%20ohnstad https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/crime/article122770324.html Evil Lives Here | Investigation Discovery (Mark’s interview) https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/1764-1771_Online.pdf ​​https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article124043069.html https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/court-upholds-death-penalty-for-rapist-clark-elmore/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/oct/17/us-supreme-court-rejects-clark-elmores-death-penal/ https://casetext.com/case/elmore-v-sinclair-7
Fred ‘FC’ Martinez Jr. was brutally murdered on the night of June 16, 2001. He is one of the youngest recorded victims of a hate crime in the United States. Join me as I tell John the case of the Navajo teen and his two spirits.  Trigger Warning: mentions of suicide and hate crimes Patreon.com/truecrimecouple or join on the app to get ad free episodes and two full length bonus episodes per month Sponsors: Miracle Made TryMiracle.com/TCC and use the code TCC to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF IQBAR Text TCC to 64-000 20% off all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping Sources: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/01/gay-youths-death-shakes-colo-city/98d8eab5-4afb-41b9-b83c-35d69d7cc88e/ https://otherwisechristian.com/2020/01/06/gender-diversity-nadleehi-and-dilbaa/ https://www.pbs.org/video/independent-lens-gender-as-a-spectrum-not-a-divide/ https://www.greeleytribune.com/2019/03/02/weld-residents-face-felony-charges-for-allegedly-robbing-extorting-man-out-of-120/ https://www.denverpost.com/2009/11/27/film-explores-death-of-transgendered-colo-teen/ http://archive.cortezjournal.com/archives/1news2006.htm https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hate-crimes-media-and-emt_b_334566 Two Spirits (2009) from filmmaker Lydia Nibley
In the early morning hours of July 22, 1987 a mother and daughter were found in a car wreckage. An first responders worked to save the women's lives they quickly realized the crash had been no accident... Sponsors: Detective Perspective Podcast Sources: https://www.newspapers.com/image/175480928/?match=1&terms=robert%20peernock https://www.newspapers.com/image/403006838/?match=1&terms=robert%20peernock https://www.newspapers.com/image/176359550/?match=1&terms=robert%20peernock https://www.newspapers.com/image/334357576/?match=1&terms=robert%20peernock https://www.newspapers.com/image/67978002/?match=1&terms=robert%20peernock A Checklist for Murder by Anthony Flacco 
On August 3, 2013, just weeks before beginning her senior year of high school, 17 year old Alexis Murphy left her family home after telling her mother that she was going to spend the day shopping in Lynchburg, VA. Unfortunately Alexis never returned home that night so her mother reported her missing to the Nelson County Sheriff’s Department. Within a week investigators would find a suspect, but it would take years for the family of Alexis Murphy to receive justice.  Patreon.com/truecrimecouple Sponsors: Miracle Made Go to TryMiracle.com/TCC and use the code TCC to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Criminal Coffee WWW.CRIMINALCOFFEECO.COM and use our code CRIMECOUPLE10 for 10% off your order!  FÜM Head to tryfum.com and use code tcc to get a free gift with your order today. Sources: https://www.newspapers.com/image/987401891/ https://www.oakridgeestate.com/ https://www.missinginillinois.org/post/samantha-ann-clarke-19-september-14-2010-orange-virginia https://twitter.com/AugensteinWTOP/status/1362167909259358210/photo/1 https://wtop.com/virginia/2021/03/alexis-murphys-killer-led-authorities-to-her-remains-remains-focal-point-in-virginia-murder-of-samantha-clarke/ https://wset.com/archive/the-search-for-alexis-murphy-a-timeline https://wset.com/news/local/remains-of-alexis-murphy-missing-since-2013-found-in-lovingston https://www.c-ville.com/inside-the-randy-allen-taylor-trial-jury-rejects-defendants-claims-delivers-murder-conviction/ https://www.wsls.com/news/2015/05/11/appeal-denied-for-randy-taylor-man-found-guilty-of-killing-alexis-murphy/ https://www.12onyourside.com/story/26095068/randy-taylor-sentenced-to-in-death-of-alexis-murphy/
On the night of August 8, 2017 15 year old Jasmine Block seemingly disappeared into thin air. When her mother returned home after only being gone an hour that night Jasmine’s cell phone was near the couch which she had left her daughter sitting on. Join me as I tell John the case of Jasmine Block.  Trigger Warning: Sexual assault and descriptions of extreme violence Correction: John told me to let you know he was wrong about St. Paul and he apologizes to all Minnesotans! Patreon.com/truecrimecouple Join for two full length bonus episodes a month and ad free episodes! Sponsors: Crime Weekly Listen to Crime Weekly wherever you listen to podcasts or on YouTube. Be sure to tell them we sent you Füm Start the Good Habit at https://tryfum.com/tcc to save 10% off the Journey Pack today. Sources: https://www.kare11.com/article/news/crime/jasmine-blocks-mom-shares-kidnapping-story/89-472038358#:~:text=%22Sleep%20is%20hard%2C%22%20Sarah,daughter%2C%20Jasmine%2C%20was%20missing. https://www.newspapers.com/image/442436194/?match=1&terms=jasmine%20block https://frankweberauthor.com/blog/alexandria-teenager-jasmine-block  https://www.kare11.com/article/news/crime/jasmine-blocks-mom-shares-kidnapping-story/89-472038358 https://frankweberauthor.com/blog/alexandria-teenager-jasmine-block https://www.echopress.com/news/barker-sentenced-to-25-years-in-prison https://www.echopress.com/news/holby-sentenced-to-less-than-eight-years-second-man-in-jasmine-block-case-sent-to-prison#:~:text=Sarah%20Block%20said%20she%20is,has%20already%20spent%20in%20jail. https://www.echopress.com/news/powers-pleads-guilty-in-kidnapping-case-sentencing-set-for-january https://www.twincities.com/2018/11/21/third-man-pleads-guilty-to-abducting-alexandria-girl-holding-her-captive-till-she-escaped/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/retired-farmer-gives-reward-money-to-kidnapped-teen Polaris Project ​​https://polarisproject.org/blog/2020/08/what-we-know-about-how-child-sex-trafficking-happens/
On April 17, 2016 A motorist found the burned, beaten, and frostbit body of a woman on a desolate stretch of Highway 212 in the Crow Reservation in Montana. Miraculously she was still alive. Join me as I tell John the case of Roylynn Rides Horse and the senseless act of violence that left her in the condition in which she was found.  Trigger Warning: domestic violence, extreme violence ** Correction: the time between the murder of Hanna Harris and Roylynn Rides Horse was 3 years not 9, I apologize.** National Indigenous Women’s Resource Center Sponsors TryMiracle.com/TCC If you order today you can save over 40%. AND if you use our promo TCC at checkout you’ll get 3 FREE TOWELS and SAVE an extra 20%! Sourcing: Map showing distance from Kirby Saloon to Castle Rock Road https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-sanchez-1064 https://www.justice.gov/usao-mt/pr/busby-man-sentenced-life-murder-woman https://scholarship.law.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3642&context=mulr#:~:text=Misprision%20of%20felony%20is%20defined,respect%20of%20the%20other's%20crime. https://www.newspapers.com/image/480228813/?match=1&terms=roylynn%20rideshorse https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/2018/12/21/man-gets-life-sentence-burning-woman-crow-reservation/2393219002/ Investigation Discovery Show: Dead Silence Season 4 Episode 8 https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-woman-dies-after-being-beaten-burned-on-crow-2016jun28-story.html https://nbcmontana.com/news/local/slain-womans-last-words-cant-be-used-in-trial-judge-rules https://www.niwrc.org/restoration-magazine/february-2018/call-action-declare-may-5-2018-national-day-awareness-missing
Today’s case spans three countries and the course of ten years. It begins as separate tragic cases of young individuals who are in crisis, but when a 64 year old self-admitted armchair detective got involved she slowly began to connect all the dots…something horrible was happening on the internet.  Trigger Warnings: Today’s case deals with discussions surround suicide and suicide ideations Resources: Suicide Prevention resources The national suicide prevention lifeline is now 988 (Suicide and Crisis Lifeline) You could also call 1800-273- TALK (8255) Learn the warning signs for suicide International Suicide prevention hotline lists Yourlifecounts.org Patreon.com/truecrimecouple Sponsors Füm Start the Good Habit at https://tryfum.com/tcc to save 10% off the Journey Pack today. Sources: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/kajouji-s-video-diary-shows-path-to-suicide-1.802270 https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/parents-plea-for-help-to-find-missing-daughter-1.282736 https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/angels/melchert_dinkel/1.html https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/mn-supreme-court/1660689.html Newspaper.com archives from the Vancouver Sun, Ottawa Citizen, Windsor Star, Battle Creek Enquirer, and New York Times Death on the Web miniseries Web of Lies (ID)
On November 14, 2015 the most unthinkable crime was committed in the midst of a youth football game in Scottsville, KY reaffirming the scary truth that it is not the unknown we should fear, but those closest to us. Join me as I tell Johnny the case of seven year old Gabriella Doolin. Trigger warning: sexual abuse and murder of a minor Sponsors: Factor Meals Factormeals.com/truecrimecouple50 and use code truecrimecouple50 to get 50% off Miracle Made TryMiracle.com/TCC and use the code TCC to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF Morbidology Podcast You can find Morbidology wherever you listen to podcasts! Sources: https://www.scribd.com/document/293042050/Timothy-Madden-Indictments https://www.wbko.com/content/news/Sentencing-for-Timothy-Madden-begins-in-Allen-County-563706761.html https://vocal.media/criminal/the-gruesome-murder-of-gabbi-doolin https://www.newspapers.com/image/663596265/?terms=Gabriella%20Doolin&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/663596330/?terms=Gabriella%20Doolin&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/140911235/?terms=Gabriella%20Doolin&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/463094782/?terms=Gabriella%20Doolin&match=1
30 year old Cindy Monkman went missing in the hours before she was supposed to catch a flight home with her sister for Christmas. Join me as I tell John the heartbreaking case of Cindy and how falling in love can sometimes be a very dangerous thing to do.  Kathy Monkman Higham’s links: Blog Youtube Channel  Sponsors: FUM TryFum.com/tcc Get 10% when you use code tcc Sources: Source 1 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/168356499/dorothy-june-monkman https://casetext.com/case/state-v-apelt Clip from American Monster (Season 9 and Episode 4) https://middlechildbook.com/2022/04/27/gone/ Newspaper.com access to the Arizona Republic and the Arizona Daily Star archives
The case that we have for you today will take us on a scenic road trip from the beautiful Vancouver Island through the majestic pacific northwestern state of Washington, with our final destination being Seattle. But somewhere along the way a wrong turn was taken, and the vast and dense forests around us, once beautiful and intoxicating, will take on a new sinister light. And very quickly the trip that was supposed to be fun for a young, new couple, just beginning to map out their own lives, would send them on the path towards their brutal murders…because a killer was now following them.  Join me as I tell John the case of Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg Patreon.com/truecrimecouple  For ad free episodes, and two full length bonus episodes a month Sponsors: Factor Meals factormeals.com/truecrimecouple50 and use code truecrimecouple50 to get 50% off. Sources: The Forever Witness: How DNA and Genealogy Solved a Cold Case Double Murder By Edward Humes Penguin Random House 2022 Purchase book https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njKHQNyEXaY https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/tracing-the-last-steps-of-saanich-couple-killed-in-1987-4661130 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tanya-van-cuylenborg-jay-cook-cold-case-timeline/ https://casetext.com/case/state-v-talbott-15#:~:text=William%20Earl%20Talbott%20II%20appealed,reversal%20and%20affirm%20his%20convictions. https://bjs.ojp.gov/taxonomy/term/combined-dna-index-system-codis https://www.newspapers.com/image/515711914/?terms=tanya%20van%20cuylenborg&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/488387258/?terms=tanya%20van%20cuylenborg&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/488386250/?terms=tanya%20van%20cuylenborg&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/488383043/?terms=tanya%20van%20cuylenborg&match=1
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Megan

I just don't think the Colegrove parents were particularly good people if they were prepared to disown and disinherit one of their sons over petty $%^&. I would not want them near my children with their viciousness and vindictiveness, they would be a bad influence. And in the end, they vilified and were afraid of the wong person.

Nov 4th
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Yachiyo Lauks

I think Kay's assumption was spot on. The fact that Ohtas were Asian family was the reason this case didn't get much attention.

Oct 8th
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Daniel Cole

your husband can't be this dumb it's got to be an scripted backhoes machine come on she's 60 some years old her son is all help her I still haven't heard who helped her yet I'm saying the center all day Tyler was guessing that alone while back and I had a feeling the mother had something to do with it and I'm just a Baltimore boy

Aug 13th
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Daniel Cole

is that an act with your husband being dumb I will let you know now we're almost at the end of the episode you're asking the question how could she do this being over she is and having surgery the son-in-law helper.

Aug 13th
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Daniel Cole

That's why you need a gun in your house. So if someone Break in your house. You can kill them If Gary would have had a gun, None of this. Would have happened.

May 20th
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lil john

Im curious @51:43 she mention jug handle..what did she mean by that?

May 20th
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stefan henriksen

it's inzane americans need to pay for help for her ptsd themselfs..here everything would be paid for by the state

May 6th
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Daniel Cole

I hope they don't kill him I hope. They just make him A girlfriend better yet a prostitute in the prison system.

Mar 27th
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Daniel Cole

The only bright Thing. that man We'll get his manhood taken from hima'am not too long after he gets in the prison system and I hope they care his butt up.I hope he need stitches

Mar 27th
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cold bird

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐👍

Feb 29th
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Raychel McGibeny

Kay, no hate, love you to pieces, but it's pronounced Wash-show, not wash-shoe. just a friendly fyi 😉

Feb 13th
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Victoria Efford

How do I leave a review? I just love you guys. I listen to crime podcasts constantly and have binged all yours in the past 6 months. You are a definite favourite. My daughter is currently doing a law degree so we live and breathe crime all the time!!! Keep doing what you do - it’s fab. I love your honesty and genuineness- you crack me up.

Jan 7th
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lil john

Orange County my hometown..I remembered this case..

Sep 10th
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Jacob Stone

john is basically ruining this podcast now. He butts in way too much and just rambles on. I keep hoping it will get better but he's just gotten worse.

Aug 15th
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lil john

This is crazy..damn Dustin had no clue..had me thinking why would he do something like that..and his father was so torn apart about losing his son..he took his..so sad all together…

Jul 31st
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Megan

somehow I don't think we have the full truth of this case.

Jul 17th
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NATHY MACHADO LIMA

block heels = platforms

Jun 5th
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Lahela

Such f—d up case! I don’t understand where the parents were t charged as accessories after the fact. They helped cover up actual events of a murder for their kids. Also, hate is a learnt behavior. Even if not by parents or mentors (like police and coaches), it is our job as parents to instill a strong moral code in our children which clearly was not done here. Also , why didn’t Luis’ fiancé sue the polic department in civil courts for financial compensation? Without a doubt she would of won.

Apr 25th
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Dman64

It’s true 80s were easy time I live in Maryland and back to DC. You didn’t need insurance so you would just make up a fake address for a DC register your car and you have to have insurance

Apr 24th
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Robin Garske

are you as mad at the native Americans perpetrators as you are at jurisdiction issues? The tribes in my area are thriving with casinos. they are able to have their own police, schools, Healthcare and government. quit looking to the federal government. ( that is failing all of us and doesnothing well). there comes a time to help yourselves.

Feb 21st
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