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Deep dives into the worlds of competition, privacy, and consumer protection from a rotating panel of experts.
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In the latest episode in our popular "Mergernomics" series, Compass Lexecon's Hélder Vasconcelos tells you everything you need to know about bargaining leverage theory - how to calculate it, what it means, and when to use it. Hosts Anant Raut and Paula Camara discuss with Dr. Vasconcelos how merger enforcers applied this theory in their reviews of the AT&T/Time Warner and Fresenius/NxStage mergers, and differences between the US and European approaches. The panel also talks about the challenges and limitations of using bargaining leverage theory. With special guests: Paula Camara, Partner, Matthos Filho, Veiga Filho, Marrey Jr. e Quiroga Advogados and Helder Vasconcelos, Senior Vice President, Compass Lexecon Hosted by: Anant Raut
By now in our popular "Mergernomics" series you've learned how to calculate the potential harm from a horizontal merger; but how do you measure the risk from a vertical merger? In this episode, Cornerstone Research's Dr. Craig Malam tells you everything you need to know about "Vertical Math" analysis in merger review - how to calculate it, what it tells you, and when to use it. Hosts Anant Raut and Analysis Group's Emily Cotton use Microsoft's controversial acquisition of video game maker Activision to discuss with Dr. Malam how to assess the risks of total or partial foreclosure from a vertical merger and how to use this analytical tool in relation to other economic tests in this series. With special guests: Dr. Craig Malam, Principal, Cornerstone Research and Emily Cotton, Managing Principal, Analysis Group Hosted by: Anant Raut
In this episode, listeners will hear the oral history of the landmark capacitors price-fixing case, a case that went to trial not once but twice in the midst of a worldwide pandemic. Attorneys for both the plaintiffs and the defense discuss their courtroom strategies, their approach to damages and guilty pleas, and adjustments they had to make on the fly in response to an unprecedented global health crisis. Later, presiding Judge James Donato shares his perspective on what worked well and what didn't, as well as advice he wishes every trial lawyer would follow, that no litigator will want to miss! With special guests: Christopher Young, Partner, Joseph Saveri Law Firm Steven Williams, Founder, Steven Williams Law P.C. David D. Cross, Partner, Goodwin Procter LLP Margaret A. Webb, Morrison & Foerster LLP The Hon. James Donato, United States District Judge, Northern District of California Hosted by: Anant Raut
In this episode of Trust and Trade, Dr. Elizabeth Wang, Executive VP of economic consulting firm Compass Lexecon, explains how antitrust enforcers use the Gross Upward Pricing Pressure Index (GUPPI) analysis to determine whether to stop a merger. Dr. Wang walks listeners through what the GUPPI test is, what it tells you, when to use it, and its advantages and limitations. Later, host Anant Raut and co-host NERA's Anton Kandalin discuss how the GUPPI test was used to challenge the Penguin Random House and Simon & Schuster mergers. With special guest: Dr. Elizabeth Wang, Executive Vice President, Compass Lexecon Hosted by: Anant Raut and Antonin Kaladin
Why are groceries more expensive than they were 4 years ago? In this episode, agriculture policy expert Austin Frerick and economist Tim Richards debate the impact of consolidation on food prices, and the role antitrust should play. Hosts Anant Raut, Evan Harris, and Erika Inwald later discuss the Federal Trade Commission's lawsuit to block the Kroger-Albertson's merger, and what to expect at trial later this month. With special guests: Austin Frerick, Fellow, Thurman Arnold Project (Yale University) and Dr. Timothy J. Richards, Morrison Chair of Agribusiness, W. P. Carey School of Business (Arizona State University) Hosted by: Anant Raut, Evan Harris, Morrison Foerster LLP, and Erika Inwald, Hausfeld LLP
In this episode you'll learn everything you need to know about the Critical Loss test used by enforcers to determine whether to block a merger - what it tells you, how to calculate it, and when to use it. Guest Ron Drennan, Economic Advisor to the DOJ Antitrust Division and former acting director of economics, explains how Critical Loss predicts the profitability of a post-merger price increase. Co-hosts Scott Scheele and Anant Raut later discuss real world cases where the Critical Loss test was used by the DOJ in litigation (H&R Block/TaxAct and Aetna/Humana), with mixed results. The latest in our "Mergernomics" series, demystifying the economic tools used in merger analysis! With special guest: Ronald Drennan, Economic Advisor, United States Department of Justice Antitrust Division Hosted by: Anant Raut and Scott Scheele, Kirkland & Ellis LLP
In this episode, Open Markets Institute's Sandeep Vaheesan and former acting FTC Chair Maureen Ohlhausen discuss the looming nationwide ban on noncompete clauses for workers and debate the roots and limits of the FTC's powers under Section 5 of the FTC Act. Host Anant Raut and co-host Scott Perlman talk about the legal challenges the ban is likely to face, and where Lina Khan's FTC may go next with the agency's interpretation of its own authority. With special guests: Sandeep Vaheesan, Legal Director, Open Markets Institute and Maureen Ohlhausen, Co-Chair of the Antitrust and Competition Practice, Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati Related Links: FTC noncompetes ban Hosted by: Anant Raut and Scott Perlman, Partner, Mayer Brown
#31 Mergernomics

#31 Mergernomics

2024-06-2435:30

This episode kicks off Trust and Trade's "Mergernomics" series, demystifying the economic analysis that antitrust enforcers use to predict whether a merger will harm competition and should be blocked. Host Anant Raut and co-host January Kim welcome Aditi Mehta, Economics Director for the DOJ Antitrust Division, to give an overview of the role of economists in merger review, common frameworks for understanding competitive harm, quirks of special markets like platforms and labor, and some of the most commonly-used tests to evaluate merger effects. With special guest: Aditi Mehta, Economics Director of Enforcement, Department of Justice Antitrust Division Hosted by: Anant Raut and January Kim, Counsel to the Director of Civil Enforcement, Department of Justice Antitrust Division
It's been called the "antitrust trial of the century" - U.S. v Google, the DOJ and state AGs' case against Google's alleged search monopoly. In this episode, we asked three of the top antitrust trial lawyers in the country to listen to the closing arguments in the case and talk about the tactics and strategies of both sides, the effectiveness of their arguments, and potential implications for ongoing antitrust cases against Amazon, Apple, and Google. With special guests: Tara Reinhart, Partner, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, Kalpana Srinivasan, Managing Partner, Susman Godfrey LLP, and Dan McCuaig, Partner, Cohen Milstein Sellers & Toll PLLC Related Links: Transcript of the closing arguments Hosted by: Anant Raut, Host, Trust and Trade and Christopher Graham, Associate, Sullivan & Cromwell LLP
US v AU Optronics, or, the LCD screens case, is one of the most important price-fixing cartel cases of the last 25 years. Now, for the first time, co-hosts Anant Raut and Anna Pletcher bring together lawyers from the prosecution, defense, and presiding Judge Susan Illston to recount some of the case's historic firsts, including the size of the financial harm, the extraterritorial reach of the Sherman Act, and the unique sentencing imposed. Get an inside take on the litigation strategies, the legal arguments, and the view from the bench in a one-of-its-kind account of this watershed case! With special guests: Hon. Susan Illston, Senior Judge, United States District Court for the Northern District of California, Heather Nyong'o, Partner, Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP, Brent Snyder, Partner, Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, and Patrick Robbins, former Partner, Shearman & Sterling LLP Related Links: United States' Sentencing Memorandum Hosted by: Anant Raut and Anna Pletcher
The word "privacy" doesn't appear in the FTC Act, yet for 25 years, the FTC has used its limited resources and enforcement tools to act as the country's privacy enforcer. Past and current FTC leadership join host Anant Raut for this rousing look at the history of privacy enforcement by the FTC, and contemplate its future. In a world where the threats to privacy have grown manifold, has the Commission stretched the handful of words passed by Congress in 1938 as far as they can, and is it time for a new agency, empowered with fit-to-purpose authority, to take the baton for the next 25? With special guests: Samuel Levine, Director of the Bureau of Consumer Protection, Federal Trade Commission, Daniel Kaufman, Partner, BakerHostetler, and Maneesha Mithal, Partner, Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati LLP Hosted by: Anant Raut
Look around you - almost everything in your home or office was once on an ocean shipping vessel. Yet this essential area of commerce continues to enjoy one of the oldest exemptions from US antitrust law. Does this loophole keep prices low for consumers? Or does it raise prices for shippers and make supply shocks worse? Hosts Anant Raut and David Golden are joined by Shipping Act expert Melissa Maxman and the American Antitrust Institute's Kathleen Bradish to debate whether it's time to deep-six the Shipping Act antitrust exemption. With special guests: Kathleen Bradish, Acting President, American Antitrust Institute and Melissa Maxman, Partner, Cohen & Gresser LLP Related Links: American Antitrust Institute report on "Competition Enforcement, Private Actions, and the Shipping Act" Hosted by: Anant Raut and David Golden
#26 Lina Under Fire

#26 Lina Under Fire

2023-09-2552:48

Season 3 of Trust and Trade kicks off with an in-depth look at the heated turn in the relationship between the Federal Trade Commission and Congress, which broke into public view during a July oversight hearing by the House Judiciary Committee. Host Anant Raut and guest host John Villafranco welcome Katie McInnis (Chief Democratic Counsel to the subcommittee) and Nina Frant (former counsel to Commissioner Wilson) to discuss their insights from the hearing - what was said, how Chair Khan responded, and what this might mean for the FTC going forward. With special guests: Katie McInnis, Chief Democratic Counsel, House Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on the Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust and Nina Frant, Vice President for Consumer Policy, U.S. Chamber of Commerce Hosted by: Anant Raut, John Villafranco, and Greg Fortsch
It was a Supreme Court case about 1 word, worth $1.2 billion dollars. But after SCOTUS killed the Federal Trade Commission's ability to get scam victims their money back, the FTC got creative. On this episode of Trust and Trade, Anant and Rich talk to a panel of former FTC-ers, including former Commissioner Phillips, about the FTC's ability to make fraud victims whole under Section 13b of the FTC Act. We learn about the history of this law, as well as the rise, fall, and resurgence of the FTC's monetary restitution authority. With special guests: Hon. Noah J. Phillips, Co-Chair of the Antitrust Practice, Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP, Maneesha Mithal, Partner, Wilson, Sonsini, Goodrich & Rosati and Ioana Gorecki, Special Counsel, Kelley Drye & Warren LLP Hosted by: Anant Raut and Richard H. Cunningham
In this episode of Trust and Trade, Anant and Anna take us into the inner workings of joint defense groups, discussing the unique challenges of working together as a band of equals behind a common goal but sometimes with differing approaches and client interests. Guests David Cross and Dr. Laila Haider offer insights on decision-making, trust, and transparency when working in a joint defense group, and offer practice pointers on how to make them work more smoothly. With special guests: David Cross, Chair of the Antitrust Litigation Practice, Morrison & Foerster LLP and Dr. Laila Haider, Economist and Vice President, Charles River Associates Hosted by: Anant Raut and Anna Pletcher
To change antitrust policy, you have to win in court, and a key part of any civil trial is the expert witness. We invited a couple of veteran prosecutors to share their best tips and secrets. Whether you're preparing for your first trial or are a seasoned litigator seeking an edge in the courtroom, whether your next trial is bench or jury, there's something useful and surprising for everyone in this episode. With special guests: Steve Tugander, Acting Assistant Chief, US Department of Justice (New York office) and Bob Hubbard, Assistant Attorney General, Antitrust Bureau, New York Attorney General's Office Hosted by: Chris Young and Kathleen McMahon
#22 Biden at 2

#22 Biden at 2

2023-04-1742:32

We debate the hits and misses from the first two years of antitrust enforcement under the Biden Administration, and make some predictions about what to expect in the next two years. With special guests: Eyitayo St. Matthew-Daniel, Partner, Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP and Lauren Willard, Partner, Covington & Burling LLP Hosted by: Anant Raut and Michael Murray
Have judges gone too far and become too reliant on economic experts in antitrust cases? Legendary plaintiffs' attorney Michael Hausfeld joins hosts Anant Raut and Travis Wheeler to talk about whether dueling professional economists either cancel each other out or decide the fate of antitrust cases, and the right way for judges and practitioners to think about their testimony. With special guest: Michael Hausfeld, Hausfeld LLP Hosted by: Anant Raut and Travis Wheeler
Would-be monopolists have traditionally faced fines and civil remedies; under the Biden Administration's more muscular enforcement of the Sherman Antitrust Act, they could face jail time as well. Law professor Travis Wheeler walks the former acting head of the DOJ Antitrust Division Richard Powers through some of the most famous monopolization cases in US legal history to help us understand where we could see criminal charges under the new regime. With special guests: Travis C. Wheeler, Nexsen | Pruet and Richard A. Powers, Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP Hosted by: Anant Raut
#19 Illumina/GRAIL

#19 Illumina/GRAIL

2022-12-1242:09

Dual challenges to the Illumina/GRAIL merger on both sides of the Atlantic underscore the differences between US and European approaches to mergers. A group of experts featuring a veteran of DG Comp and an FTC alum walk us through the procedural and litigation intricacies, what happened on both sides of the pond, and key lessons for practitioners about proposed behavioral fixes to embattled mergers. With special guests: Paul Csiszar, Unit Director, DG Comp and Jennifer Milici, Partner, WilmerHale Hosted by: Anant Raut and Bill Batchelor
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