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Author: Stacey Gross

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Are you tired of the Mommy Wars? Why not spend an hour each week stepping back from the carnage as it unfolds on social media to take a deep dive into the story of one of the soldiers instead? Being a mom is hard as hell. Each week, host Stacey Gross gets together with another mom (or a dad, or a grandma, or someone who's chosen not to have kids at all) to talk about how they relate to the enormous concept that is parenting. Whether you have kids or not, tune in every Saturday for a fresh dose of humor, humility, and unvarnished truth about the fact that mommin' ain't easy.
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Frank Williams

Frank Williams

2020-10-2339:24

An extra hour of tape from my interview with Frank Williams, who talks about how deployment may have helped his marriage, and helped him to see what he had at home that he possibly hadn't appreciated before. You can hear the first part of Frank's interview in Episode 11. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Aaron Stearns Extras

Aaron Stearns Extras

2020-10-1640:52

So I've been going through old content as well as pre-2020 and early-2020 content, when everything was still relatively normal and I thought I might actually take a shot at monetizing this project. Part of that included bonus content from each episode, which was only available for Patrons at the time. Each interview typically lasted 2 hours or a little more. I always aired the first half of the episode and kept the second half for Patreon.But now we're all wizened October 2020-ers and I simply am not able to commit the time or consistency to asking for patronization (you're always more than welcome to pledge, but by no means can I request pledges for content with the schedule I currently keep). So I've decided to dig up these bonus episodes and release them, as I'm also going through the last of the pre-lockdown interviews I did. I think there's a lot of value in these interviews. All of them. Whether the guest and I have much in common or not, the conversations are worth sharing in their entirety. This is the second half of my interview with Aaron Stearns. You can hear the first half of our conversation in Episode 10. Aaron has prioritized his wife Carissa's career and takes on a more or less full-time stay-at-home dad role at home. He's a pretty cool dude, and passionate about politics, his family, and being aware of his own motivations and inner workings. He's for sure worth kicking off this Deep Cuts series of episodes with. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Sunny Kirby grew up in the same part of northwestern Pennsylvania as I did, around the same time as I did. We probably knew a lot of the same people. Yet Sunny and I hadn't met in person a day in our lives before sitting down this past Monday to talk about homeschooling. Our conversation naturally branched and stretched, always coming back to that home base of a topic, but naturally and organically occurring as we discovered more and more we had in common with one another. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Gina and I disucss our favie princesses ever in the Disney Canon, which happen to be the same princess actually, as well as our favie non-princess female leads. We also discuss Gina's first Hocus Pocus viewing and lay out some plans for upcoming Halloween EpisodesSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Tarzan Good. Gaston Bad.

Tarzan Good. Gaston Bad.

2020-10-0101:05:58

Gina and I break down Toxic Masculinity through a brief deconstruction of Gaston, Frollo, and Hans from Frozen, while establishing that (a) Tarzan, who was raised by apes, is the most perfect man in history and (b) Gina's love storhy or "How Gina Met Mr. Gina" is the most romantic story of all time and I'm both intensely jealous and in breathless awe. Gina is a real Disney Princess with a real Disney love story. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Sailin' On

Sailin' On

2020-09-2646:17

In part two of her episode, Michelle discusses how rising up - using her voice to speak openly and unabashedly about her past and her struggles - has helped her to sail on. To move forward from those struggles by picking up any useful pieces left behind in the wake of her past and going forward in a constant state of development and growth. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Risin' Up: Michelle I

Risin' Up: Michelle I

2020-09-2158:59

Michelle speaks with unvarnished honesty about her experience of growing up with an abusive father, within a context of chronic stress and fear. And about how that experience played out throughout her family, what that looks like today, and what she's learned from it. The most important thing, Michelle says, is to find your voice and to move past the past. This is part one of Michelle's episode. The second half will be out at the end of the week, and I feel like if you give Michelle five minutes of your time today, there's no way you're not going to come back on Friday to hear the rest. She's an excellent storyteller, with incredible insight, and a resilience that looks and seems nearly bulletproof to me. Michelle is an excellent example of how controlling the narrative of your life, and how it's used, and for what purpose, can be what sets you in motion toward moving past it. And, while she and I had very different experiences of childhood, we both know what it is to have grieved a man with whom we've had to develop visitation arrangements for our children. A man we loved, deeply, and lost, in the end, but one we grieve a little bit each time we see them, and we see them often. We both also know how awkward it can be to speak openly about the biggest challenges in our lives while also staying within - if we must - or, better yet, restructuring our environments to reflect social expectations that we endorse. Part one is about finding your voice, what Michelle calls "risin' up." Part two will be Michelle explaining what "sailin' on" means to her. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Reluctantly Homeschool Moms

Reluctantly Homeschool Moms

2020-09-1901:10:31

I've talked to moms who stay at home exclusively and moms who work. Moms who work in the schools their kids attend, as professionals and providers. I've talked to dads who've chosen a stay-at-home lifestyle in order to prioritize their wives' careers. That was all before. Before a pandemic. Before 2020 took John Prine and Ruth Bader Ginsberg, cruelly, and without remorse. Before the world turned itself on its head. Now, I'm talking to Author Abby Knox, who finds herself, having just adjusted to a work-from-home lifestyle, abruptly having to transition into a work-from-home, homeschooling mom of two school-age kids. I'm personally going through the exact same thing, loudly, and unabashedly, on Twitter, if you care to watch the cargnage unfold in real time. Abby and I got a little off-topic a couple of times, but I like that, because I consider it a clear case for art imitating life, considering the context in which we currently find ourselves. Listen in as we wade into the national shit show that is Post-Pandemic Education in America. Also, you need to go to Amazon and check out Abby's writing. She's a romance author slinging some sassy, sexy prose if you dig a good book crush. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Not Moms, By Choice

Not Moms, By Choice

2020-09-1246:45

Holy Crow, Y'all. I've been looking for someone to talk about making a conscious choice not to have children since December of 2019 and, man, did Bridget deliver. This is a woman who grew up in a chaotic home with a mother who struggled with significant mental health issues, but who loved her very much, and told her so. Bridget displays an insane amount of insight and introspective wisdom, and I am so, so excited to share this episode with you. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Gina and I wound up discussing the differences between the classic Greek myth of Heracles and Disney's 1997 adaptation of the myth for its movie canon. It's different comparing Greek myth to modern life because in no way was it attempting to account for modern life. Plus we couldn't really find a lot to bitch about in terms of Disney's adaptation. So we just talked about it for an hour. Because that's what we do. Was gonna hold this for Friday, but I've decided to throw it on now, bring the newest episode to ya this Friday, and start working my way through episodes I never got to edit and release from this past April, when the pandemic shut me down for a while. Just some girls giggling about muscles and bees today, kids. Good craic. Come have a listen. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Jenny has a number of autoimmune and hormone disorders that prevent her from safely getting pregnant. "There's no good way for this to end," Jenny said in regards to the notion of having kids. In this episode, Jenny talks about the process of deciding, for the sake of not only her own health, but for the health of any potential children she might conceive, not to try having children at all. And, said Jenny, while it's not the end of the world for her and her husband to hang that idea on a permanent hook, it's not without occasional thoughts in the "what if" vein. This podcast is all about exploring our notions, schemas, and philosophies around raising kids, and it would be woefully incomplete without highlighting the voices of women who either can't or won't be moms. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Gina and I asked the Twitter Lovelies which villainesses they wanted to hear discussed from both Disney movies and the Fairy Tale canon in general. Altogether we came up with: Mother Gothel, Evil Queen, Ursula, Maleficent, Cruella de Vil, Prince Charming's mother from Shrek, and Lady Tremaine. Rather than discuss each character (or archetype, rather) individually we approached the subject more in terms of tropes or common themes that emerge when one examines the various villainess archetypes within folklore and Disney movies alike. We touched on vanity, vindictiveness, beauty (or the lack thereof), social slights, witches and wise women, and the danger of female power as expressed in both classic and contemporary storytelling, as well as how those tropes translate to today's actual lived experience for women in terms of work and parenting domains within their lives. It's a great conversation, built on the interests and requests of the women who listen, and we hope it will both destroy your Disney nostalgia in the healthiest of ways, while giving you more insight into the complexities and nuances of actual women whose lives are infused with the messages and values inherent in the stories we grow up on. Also, giggling. So. Much. Giggling. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Gina Merritt discusses navigating the IEP process in both private and public Pennsylvania schools, teaching her son to advocate for himself, and how she wound up with adult kids who actually like her, and enjoy being around her - something I desperately hope to accomplish as well, as a mom. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
I'm going to have to go to bed soon. I have to get up at 3 a.m. to drive 70 miles into the blood drive in the morning - gotta be there by 6. So it's bedtime soon and because I don't feel good about being a little later on Friday than I'd like to be, then I wanted you to have this little teaser to tide you over. Scout's honor, the full episode will be up by the end of the day on Friday. Gina kicks ass. Stay tuned. The episode was nearly two hours long, so I had to make cuts, but I didn't want to cut anything so I decided to turn at least this part into a little clip for you. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Fairy Tale Teaser

Fairy Tale Teaser

2020-08-1926:47

A teaser of the episode featuring Gina Merritt, who talks about helping her son learn to self-advocate through the process of navigating his IEP in both public and private Pennsylvania schools. Also, a teaser for another potential sidecast in which Gina basically allows me to destroy all of her favorite Disney movies in the name of feminism. I'm going straight to hell. I'm sorry. Mostly to Gina. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Pretty much exactly what it sounds like. I'm exhausted. Emily EgglestonCody ElmsThat Paper I CitedSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
A little ramble on the intersection of parenting human children and chicken mommin'. Going to be testing out a new upload schedule of a new ramble episode every two weeks. Look for new content on August 7. For now it'll be rambles and if I'm able to make it work (and I believe I will), I'll get back to uploading the remaining interviews and possibly getting some new interviews in queue for you!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Hey, y'all! Just wanted to take a minute and update you all on the state of the podcast, which isn't dead, but is in the process of becoming a memoir manuscript. I've got some information on how COVID-19 had affected and changed my ability to produce, and also let you know about my new job as a phlebotomist at a nonprofit blood bank in my region. Check out what TMDD is becoming, and learn how you can help me out with it as a beta reader for the manuscript. Get ahold of me at twomomsdaydrinking@protonmail to get a copy of the manuscript and provide feedback by Friday, July 10. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
Air Force Moms

Air Force Moms

2020-04-2501:05:01

First, a bit of news: So, it's after careful consideration that I've decided to suspend pledges on Patreon. For the time being the content will be available free to everyone at all times. I'd still love it if people visited the Patreon page, and I'll take a donation any old time you feel like buying me a cup of coffee, but I'm struggling with the "new normal" as we all call it. I'm back to work part time, but the kids aren't in school, and it's impossible to find care for them when I'm already wearing my childcare options thin just getting to work each day. I just don't feel comfortable charging patrons for a thing when I can't reasonably promise to have bonus content, content up by Friday at the latest, or other benefits that come along with patronage. Now, about this episode: Katrina and I actually went to high school together. She's a super cool chick, with four kids, living in Honolulu, Hawaii, with her husband, who is also in the air force. She talks about her choice to join the Air Force, her current dilemma: go back into the air force and, if so, in what capacity, and how she raises four kids while her husband is deployed (but he's not currently, so that's a good thing). Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
So things have been hairy the last couple of weeks, eh? I'm currently back to work part time, but also have about 30 chicken eggs incubating, five hatched, and some duck eggs on the way (because my drake is either a fat hen or just not into the ladies, so we don't get fertile eggs from our ducks. Also, another friend is giving me some Brahma eggs to incubate. That's a really enormous chicken, if you're not into the poultry lingo. If you're not following me on Instagram (instagram.com/twomomsdaydrinking) or Twitter, (@2mddpodcast), you should, because I'm posting videos and pictures of our little farm almost every day, and lots of them are of brand new baby chickens. So if you like to go "awwwwww, squee," you should hit me up on social media. Anyhow, I've taken a week off from editing and this week wanted to instead share with you an episode of Michael Hsu's podcast, on which I did a guest appearance last month. Michael reached out to me after I posted on a podcasting forum asking what everyone's numbers were looking like in early March. Everyone experienced a huge downturn in listeners and downloads, and I disclosed that I was feeling a significant amount of imposter syndrome as a result. Michael invited me to try a session of his intergenerational healing approach to dealing with issues like the ones I have every day (Anxiety Girl - Able to Leap to the Worst Conclusion at a Moment's Notice). I'm also notorious for trouncing all therapists' attempts to make me do things that make me feel like I'm performing, or being hokey, or generally going along willingly with their plans whatsoever. My old therapists would probably barf if they could hear this. Because difficult. I can't help it, it's just how I am. I warned Michael before taking him up on his offer that I'm basically Chandler Bing and tend to deflect all efforts at seriousness or intimacy with inappropriate and slightly offensive humor. Michael is brave. He had me on on anyway. This was a fun opportunity to lean into an interpersonal interaction I'm VERY uncomfortable with, and his story during the final half of the episode is fun to listen to. I've always been keenly aware of how my parents' and grandparents' issues inform my own issues, both growing up and now, during what people insist is my adulthood (regardless of whether or not I choose to act like an adult). This was a great opportunity to have my own thoughts on my family's generational issues reflected back to me, and I wound up with some new ideas. It was super awkward. Because I'm super awkward, not because he is. His content is interesting, and he's a fascinating guy with a cool story of his own. He's said he'd love to guest on my show as well sometime, but with the current climate being what it is we just haven't been able to hash out a schedule to do a remote interview, but he just had a baby with his wife 6 months ago and said he'd love to discuss some of the "emotional crapola" that comes up when we have kids. Especially our first kids. So. For this week check out my episode with Michael, and then listen to other ones. Because it's cool hearing people's stories through the lens of his unique method of intergenerational healing. I'll be back next week with a new episode of my own for you. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/twomomsdaydrinking)
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