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A Priest and a Pastor start a podcast...
Father James Bozeman is an Orthodox Priest serving at St James Orthodox Church in Beaufort, South Carolina (stjamesbeaufort.org).
John Mulholland is the Lead Pastor at WestWay Christian Church in Scottsbluff, Nebraska (westwaychurch.com).
James and John have been friends since meeting at Toccoa Falls College in August of 1988. They like talking about theology.
Father James Bozeman is an Orthodox Priest serving at St James Orthodox Church in Beaufort, South Carolina (stjamesbeaufort.org).
John Mulholland is the Lead Pastor at WestWay Christian Church in Scottsbluff, Nebraska (westwaychurch.com).
James and John have been friends since meeting at Toccoa Falls College in August of 1988. They like talking about theology.
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Pastors James and John dive into the nature of the Gospel and the need to protect its integrity, drawing insights from early church fathers. They emphasize that their role is not to redefine the Gospel but to guard it, highlighting the importance of catechesis—a period of teaching and guidance for new believers. Referencing Ignatius and Justin Martyr, they explore the balance between community, tradition, and church teachings, as well as the tension between prescriptive and descriptive interpretations of early texts. The pastors discuss differing approaches to catechesis and baptism, stressing that faith is not a one-time decision but an ongoing journey of discipleship. Rooted in tradition yet engaged with contemporary culture, their conversation challenges modern believers to wrestle with faith’s truth claims in a way that fosters dialogue and growth.
Pastors James and John talk about cultural Christianity and the idea of being “Christian-ish,” examining how faith intersects with modern media and society. The pastors reflect on PBS's "All Creatures Great and Small "and its portrayal of Christian rituals—particularly baptism and the renunciation of evil—contrasting these depictions with historical traditions. They discuss the challenge of guiding people in faith without reducing it to superficial practices or a checklist of good deeds, emphasizing that true transformation takes time and patience, not just religious observance.
Pastors James and John discuss chapter four of The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider, emphasizing that church growth and conversions were driven more by the habits and behaviors of individual Christians than by organized church gatherings. They highlight that early Christians lived out their faith in their daily lives, which drew people to the gospel rather than relying on traditional evangelistic methods. James and John encourage believers to focus on genuine living and witness to their faith instead of feeling pressured to bring others to church, suggesting that authentic actions often speak louder than words. Ultimately, they stress the importance of being ordinary and relatable in one's faith, contrasting this with the often flashy approaches to evangelism seen in modern contexts.
Pastors James and John engaged in a discussion about the shift in cultural interest toward traditional forms of Christianity, particularly Orthodoxy. They emphasized the importance of understanding why individuals are drawn to these traditions, noting that many seek fulfillment outside of capital C Christianity. They highlighted the role of habitus, catechesis, and community worship in transforming lives and emphasizing that true faith requires both heart change and obedience. Ultimately, they pondered how to ensure that seekers are genuinely pursuing a relationship with Christ, rather than just the appealing aspects of the faith, reminding listeners that the Christian journey can be fraught with challenges but rooted in trust and grace.
This past Summer, Pastor John went to the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota and visited the sire of the December 29, 1890 massacre of nearly 300 Lakota by the United States Army.
This led to a conversation about "Hallowed Spaces."
In this riveting BONUS episode, Pastors James and John talk about Cars.
James and John begin their discussion of Alan Kreider's "The Patient Ferment of the Early Church."
Pastors James and John talk about what's next for the Two Pastors Talk podcast; we'll be reading and discussing Alan Kreider's book "The Patient Ferment of the Early Church."
Pastors James and John discuss the topic of being "pro-life" beyond political associations and stress the moral importance rooted in Scripture and the Orthodox Church's teachings. It is highlighted that being pro-life encompasses issues like war, death penalty, and treatment of bodies after death. We urge believers to prioritize biblical principles over political affiliations by focusing on the sanctity of life. Cultural devaluation of children is addressed, emphasizing the need to value and protect human life from conception to death and engaging in meaningful conversations with a biblical perspective.
*Programming note- we changed the order of episodes. This was originally scheduled to be episode 1 of season 2.
People leave churches; James and John talk about what it looks like for them to have conversations with them.
And, they talk briefly about an article written by Ryan Burge, who recently oversaw the closing of First Baptist Church in Mt Vernon Illinois.
You'll find the article here.
In response to questions from a viewer in episode 2, Father James and John talk about the importance of guardrails and the role of tradition within their respective faith traditions.
Pastors James and John talk about serving in the church: how it helps us grow in our relationship with God and others.
Pastors James and John talk about the role of preaching.
Recently, Richard Dawkins (evolutionary biologist, author, atheist) was interviewed by Rachel Johnson on "Leading Britain's Conversation." In it, he talks about the value of being a "cultural christian."
Father James and Pastor John found it fascinating, so we had a conversation about it. You can view video of our conversation here: https://youtu.be/yV-cBfwbbc0?si=UdPn1HIVi52iO-kf.
Pastors James and John share their stories- how they met and how they became pastors.
Two pastors talk (get it?) about the role of prayer in the church, especially as it relates to being ready to participate in the gathering and the work of the church.
Pastors James and John talk about the purpose and use of prayer in their respective churches.
Resources mentioned:
"Help! I'm Bored in Church!": https://store.ancientfaith.com/help-i...
Atheists in Space: https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/p...
The Cross and the Machine: https://www.firstthings.com/article/2...
Why does my pastor wake up at 2am?
In 2 Corinthians 11:28, Paul talks about having, "the daily burden of concern for all the churches."
Pastors James and John talk about what this has looked like in their own lives, why it happens, and how they work through it.
Why do churches gather? What are the elements of the gathering? Why does it matter?
Pastors James and John talk through the question "What is worship?"






