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Author: John Andrews and David Harvey

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A Podcast about the Bible 

Every two weeks, from two different countries, the two hosts of the Two Texts podcast pick two biblical texts to talk about. Each episode we pick one text to talk about, which invariably leads to us talking about two texts and often many more.

Dr John Andrews and Dr David Harvey share a mutual fascination with the Bible. Simple yet complex; ancient yet relevant; challenging yet comforting. But one thing that fascinates them consistently is that, like a kaleidoscope, no matter how many times they look at it there is something new, fresh and exciting to talk about.

This podcast is designed for you regardless of how much or how little you've read the Bible. Grab a hot beverage, a notepad (or app), and a Bible, sit back, listen, enjoy, and learn to also become fascinated (or grow your fascination) with this exciting, compelling and mysterious book. 

John and David are two friends who love teaching the Bible and have both been privileged enough to be able to spend their careers doing this - in colleges, universities, churches, homes and coffee shops. The two of them have spent extended periods of time as teaching staff and leadership in seminary and church contexts. John has regularly taught at David's church, and there was even a point where John was David's boss! 

Nowadays David is a Priest and Pastor in Calgary, Canada, and John teaches and consults for churches in the UK and around the world. They're both married with children (John 3, David 1) and in John's case even grandchildren. In their down time you'll find them cooking, reading, running or watching football (but the one thing they don't agree on is which team to support). 

If you want to get in touch with either of them about something in the podcast you can reach out on podcast@twotexts.com or by liking and following the Two Texts podcast on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love it if you left a review or comment where you’re listening from – and if you really enjoyed it, why not share it with a friend? 

238 Episodes
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Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David begin a new series on the “I AM” sayings in John’s Gospel, beginning by tracing them back to the burning bush of Exodus 3. We explore how Jesus’ words are rooted in the divine name, how the New Testament reads the Old, and why Christ must be seen as present from the beginning if we are to understand who he truly is. Episode 234 of the Two T...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David bring Jonah to a close by sitting with God’s final question. We reflect on divine mercy, human prejudice, and the unsettling grace that keeps everyone alive. Along the way, we consider God’s habit of asking questions, the patience that refuses to give up on prophets, and why Jonah’s story is still our story. Episode 233 of the Two Texts Podcast | ...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David reflect on the final 39 words of Jonah and the question that ends the book. We explore the contrast between plant and city, mercy and justice, and why God’s unanswered question exposes our own hearts. Along the way, we consider Nahum, judgment, repentance, and the danger of shaping God in our image. Episode 232 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Bey...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David turn from the gift of the plant to the discomfort of its removal. Reflecting on the worm, the scorching wind, and Jonah’s desire for death, they explore divine rebuke, trust, and the exposure of hidden evil. They move toward Jonah’s unresolved ending—and the uneasy question of what happens when grace is resisted. Episode 231 of the Two Texts Podca...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David linger over Jonah’s plant and discover it is far more than a narrative oddity. Reading Jonah 4 alongside Genesis, the Feast of Booths, and the wider scriptural pattern of divine provision, they explore how God’s mercy repeatedly shelters Jonah—even as he resists extending that same mercy to others. Episode 230 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jona...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David linger with Jonah 4 and the strange mercy of the plant, the worm, and the wind. They explore God’s repeated acts of provision, the attempt to draw Jonah out of his anger, and the Eden-and-Exodus echoes of a God still trying to rescue his prophet from the evil burning within him. Episode 229 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 25 If ...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David begin Jonah 4 and confront the shock of the prophet’s anger. They explore the collision between Nineveh’s repentance and Jonah’s rage, the kindling of ra‘ah within the man of God, and the unsettling question of whether we, too, sit on the hill hoping for judgment while God persists in mercy. Episode 228 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the ...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David consider Jonah 3:10–4:1 and the unsettling language of turning, repentance, and evil. They trace shuv and ra’ah through Jeremiah and Exodus, explore God’s predictable mercy, and wrestle with Jonah’s anger at a God who turns from judgment when people turn toward him. Episode 227 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 23 If you want to g...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David return to Jonah 3 and ponder the king of Nineveh’s response. They trace the force of the word that strikes the king, explore sackcloth, fasting, and the language of turning (shuv), and reflect on a repentance that draws in people, animals, and even God’s own merciful turning. Episode 226 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 22 If you...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David reflect some more on Jonah’s bewildering sermon, its response, and the mysterious work of the Spirit in both preaching and hearing. We explore humility in proclamation, the difference between talking and true preaching, sackcloth and repentance, memory as yearning, and why Nineveh’s response reveals far more about God than about Jonah. Episode 225...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David explore the startling response to Jonah’s five-word sermon and consider how belief arises in surprising places. We ponder the mystery at the heart of Jonah 3, the unseen work of God, Tolkien’s tower, frogs in biology class, and why faith often exceeds the logic of its parts. Episode 224 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 20 If you ...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David explore Jonah’s five-word sermon, noticing how its brevity holds layers of meaning and ambiguity. We reflect on the tension between judgment and invitation, the dual possibilities within the word “overturned,” and the surprising breadth of compassion revealed in God’s dealings with Nineveh. We trace how the sermon’s grammar, its echoes across scri...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David reflect on Jonah’s five-word sermon, the prophet’s half-hearted obedience, and the surprising repentance of Nineveh. We explore how the narrative exposes Israel’s own reluctance to hear God, and how—even through flawed preaching—God’s word still brings life. Along the way we draw Bonhoeffer into the conversation on faithful proclamation. Episode 2...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David trace the divine symmetry between the great fish and the great city of Nineveh. Together they uncover how Jonah’s story reveals a God both cosmic and near — one who commands creation yet longs for relationship. They reflect on the city “great to God,” the paradox of divine judgement and mercy, and how the incarnation embodies the mystery of a Crea...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David explore Jonah’s second calling and the grace woven into the story’s repetition. They reflect on Buechner’s and Tolkien’s ideas of myth, Hebrew wordplay that shifts God’s tone from 'against' to 'toward', and the layered symbolism of Nineveh’s name—revealing a God who commands even the 'gods' of the world. Episode 219 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jona...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David explore Jonah’s cry from the “belly of Sheol” and ask whether the prophet’s prayer describes death, near-death, or resurrection itself. We trace echoes of Psalms 16 and 139, connect Jonah’s deliverance to Jesus’ “sign of Jonah,” and marvel at the irony that salvation—still—belongs to the Lord. Episode 218 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond th...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David reflect on Jonah’s prayer from the belly of the fish, exploring how it echoes the Psalms and reveals a God who always calls us home. We discuss honesty, faithfulness, and what it means to return to God even in darkness—remembering that salvation belongs to the Lord. Episode 217 of the Two Texts Podcast | Jonah Beyond the Whale 14 If you want to g...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David explore Jonah’s prayer from the belly of the great fish. We explore its Psalm-like poetry, Jonah’s descent into death, and the layers of creation, flood, and exodus woven through his cry. Along the way, we ask what kind of repentance this really is—and discover that even in Jonah’s inconsistency, the Lord remains steadfast. Episode 216 of the Two ...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David explore Jonah’s descent into the deep and God’s appointment of the great fish. We trace the Hebrew term manah—God’s “ordination” of creation—to reveal divine order emerging from chaos. Along the way, we uncover echoes of Genesis, the three-day pattern of transformation, and Jesus’ sign of Jonah that links creation to redemption. Episode 215 of the...
Drop us a text message to say hi and let us know what you think of the show. (Include your email if you’d like us to reply) In which John and David reflect on Jonah 1:7–17, exploring Jonah’s confession of faith and its irony against his rebellion. We trace echoes from Psalm 95, Genesis, and Exodus, uncovering how the sailors sound more righteous than the prophet. The conversation uncovers themes of evil and creation, as Jonah is cast into the sea and swallowed by the great fish. Episode 214 o...
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