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UnHerd with Freddie Sayers

UnHerd with Freddie Sayers
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Freddie Sayers from online magazine UnHerd seeks out top scientists, writers, politicians and thinkers for in-depth interviews to try and help us work out what’s really going on. What started as an inquiry into the pandemic has broadened into a fascinating look at free speech, science, meaning and the ideas shaping our world.
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Freddie Sayers sits down with renowned cognitive psychologist, author, and Harvard Professor of Psychology Steven Pinker to discuss his latest book, When Everyone Knows That Everyone Knows... and explore how common knowledge shapes our social, political, and economic worlds. Their conversation delves into the power and pitfalls of collective thinking, the dynamics of cancel culture and censorship, and the Trump administration’s clashes with academic institutions like Harvard. They also consider whether democracy is in decline, if society is losing its shared sense of reality, and whether there’s still reason to be optimistic about the future. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
UnHerd’s Contributing Editor Jonny Ball (aka Despotic Inroad) sits down with Lord Maurice Glasman, the Labour peer and political theorist behind Blue Labour, at Labour party conference 2025 in Liverpool. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer is under fire and polling as the least popular on record — Glasman argues that the party faces a battle for its very soul.In this conversation, he traces the history of the movement he founded, Blue Labour, and its critique of the Labour party’s transformation into what he sees as metropolitan and liberal, detached from its working-class roots. Glasman highlights how the working class and young voters are drifting to Nigel Farage’s Reform, why the best predictor of whether you vote Labour is whether you went to private school, and what it would take to reverse Labour’s decline: a renewed focus on industrial strategy, job creation, and working-class empowerment.Can Blue Labour stop Reform’s rise and save Labour? Could Reform actually replace Labour as the voice of working people? And what, if anything, should Labour learn from MAGA and Trump’s populist success? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
UnHerd’s Freddie Sayers welcomes Paul Kingsnorth to the UnHerd Club an exclusive interview about his new book Against the Machine. Kingsnorth has spent decades charting the alienation and upheaval brought about by modernity. In this wide-ranging interview he sets out why he sees today’s technological order as inhuman, why AI may be the 'Antichrist', and why he believes the West must be allowed to die.What does it mean to live as a dissident inside the Machine? And what lines must we draw if we are to remain human? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Has the political Right become what it once despised? In the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, a wave of firings and online campaigns has many asking if a "woke right" has finally arrived, adopting the very tactics of cancel culture it used to condemn. Freddie Sayers sits down with author and commentator James Lindsay for a conversation about this dangerous new chapter in the culture wars. As calls for "retribution" grow louder, what is the line between legitimate accountability for those in public trust and the illiberal, mob-like vengeance taking hold? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Freddie Sayers speaks with Dr. Martin Kulldorff — co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration and newly appointed chair of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) — to discuss his and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s views on vaccines, the recent turmoil at the CDC that has seen senior officials resign or be removed, and his reflections on the global pandemic response, from Sweden’s no-lockdown strategy to the United States’ vaccine mandates. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In the wake of Charlie Kirk's killing, what does this precarious moment mean for American politics? UnHerd's Freddie Sayers speaks to Thomas Chatterton Williams, author of 'Summer of Our Discontent: The Age of Certainty and the Demise of Discourse' about the eerie parallels between 2020 and 2025. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Freddie Sayers is joined by Undercurrents host Emily Jashinsky, reporting from the White House, and UnHerd's US Editor Sohrab Ahmari to discuss the immediate aftermath of the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. On the somber anniversary of September 11th, they analyse the profound and frightening fallout, including the sense that a "seal has been broken" in American politics, the potential for a J. Edgar Hoover-style crackdown on left-wing groups by an angered Trump administration, and the grim question of whether civil debate can survive in an era of escalating violence. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Try High Flavanol Cocoa (Stem Cells & Nitric Oxide): (40% OFF PROMO FOR 48HR) https://blackforestsupplements.com/UNHERDUnHerd’s Freddie Sayers speaks with journalist and author Matt Taibbi. A former Rolling Stone reporter and now publisher of Racket News, Taibbi was chosen by Elon Musk to help release the “Twitter Files,” exposing political and government influence on online speech.In this conversation, he reflects on Musk’s promise to turn Twitter into a “digital town square,” the re-platforming of Trump and other controversial voices, and the mission creep that has left X accused of amplifying right-wing politics while throttling critics.Has Musk delivered a freer public square? And how do these questions play out in Britain, where viral flashpoints like “Sophie of Dundee” and the arrest of writer Graham Linehan at Heathrow over X posts about trans issues have turned free speech into a front-line cultural battle? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
UnHerd’s US Editor Sohrab Ahmari interviews former Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan. As head of the Biden FTC, Khan shook up decades of corporate deference — suing Big Tech, targeting drug middlemen, and reviving antitrust enforcement.In this conversation, she reflects on the collapse of the brief “post-neoliberal” consensus, warning that corporations now use both woke and anti-woke rhetoric to shield their power, while Trump’s return has revived old patterns of lobbyist capture and green-lit mega-mergers.Can Democrats truly embrace economic populism? Was the populist moment just a mirage? And is antitrust still America’s frontline battle against monopoly power? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
UnHerd’s Freddie Sayers brings together two leading voices on the decline of reading and the future of literacy: Times columnist and cultural critic, James Marriott, and YouTuber and philosopher, Jared Henderson.Marriott has written extensively about what he calls the dawn of a “post-literate society.” For him, the slow death of English literature and the retreat from serious reading mark a cultural crisis, with far-reaching consequences for politics, education, and civic life. He argues that without books and deep reading, society risks becoming shallow, distracted, and dangerously unserious.Henderson agrees and sees the problem through a different lens. On his YouTube channel he has chronicled the “male reading crisis” in American colleges, showing how boys and young men are abandoning reading altogether. But rather than mourning literature’s decline, he focuses on practical ways to reignite reading habits, from choosing the right books to rebuilding attention in an age of screens.In this discussion, Freddie Sayers asks: Is literacy truly collapsing, or simply evolving into new forms? As AI, smartphones and digital media reshape our minds, is the future of reading one of decline — or reinvention? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
UnHerd’s Freddie Sayers brings together two starkly opposed voices on the Ukraine war and the future of world order: John Mearsheimer, University of Chicago professor and leading realist, and Matthew Syed, Sunday Times columnist, broadcaster and author.Mearsheimer has long argued that NATO expansion and Western policy blunders set the stage for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. From a realist standpoint, he warns that Russia’s position is essentially non-negotiable and that Ukraine must cut a deal now if it is to avoid further devastation. For Mearsheimer, ignoring the hard facts of great-power politics and clinging to Western rhetoric risks only catastrophic escalation.Syed sees things very differently. In a recent Sunday Times column, he criticised the West’s handling of Ukraine, from the failed Alaska summit. He accused Western governments of failing Ukraine and directly attacked Mearsheimer’s realist position as “morally deranged” and fatally weak. For Syed, only moral clarity and Western resolve — not accommodation with Putin — can change the course of the war.In this debate, Freddie Sayers asks: Is realism just disguised defeatism? Is idealism dangerously naïve in the age of Trump, Putin and Xi? And, after the White House summit with Zelensky, does the West finally have a coherent strategy — or is Ukraine still being left to fight alone? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
UnHerd’s Freddie Sayers speaks with journalist and author of new book Apple in China, Patrick McGee – who was the Financial Times’s principal Apple reporter from 2019 to 2023 – about the man at the centre of Apple’s China story: CEO Tim Cook.On August 1st, Cook quietly became Apple’s longest-serving leader, overtaking Steve Jobs — a milestone that came days before a high-profile White House appearance in which he warmly praised Donald Trump. The move was widely seen as a calculated bid to secure political goodwill as US–China tensions threaten Apple’s business.Before becoming CEO, Cook built Apple’s vast Chinese supply chain — training millions of workers and investing billions in infrastructure — giving the company unmatched manufacturing power but also a deep reliance on China’s authoritarian system. Now, McGee says, he is scrambling to shift production elsewhere while navigating Washington politics. His book, Apple in China, charts how Cook’s choices drove Apple’s rise — and its vulnerabilities — as speculation grows over his future and who might replace him. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
UnHerd’s Freddie Sayers interviews renowned evolutionary biologist Professor Richard Dawkins about the enduring biological differences between men and women — and why recognising them remains essential in the face of growing ideological pressure. Dawkins lays out the evolutionary and genetic foundations that distinguish the sexes.He addresses the growing influence of gender ideology and the way it has infiltrated scientific institutions, education, and public discourse. From the redefinition of sex to the silencing of researchers, Dawkins warns that a once-clear understanding of biology is being sacrificed to political orthodoxy — and makes the case for defending scientific truth against the encroachment of dogma. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Journalist Batya Ungar-Sargon and UnHerd US Editor Sohrab Ahmari discuss the MAGA pivot against Israel in recent weeks and the reasons for waning support for Netanyahu's war from the American Right. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Philosopher and UnHerd writer Kathleen Stock joins Freddie Sayers to discuss one of the strangest and most revealing cultural moments of the year: the rise of Bonnie Blue, the OnlyFans pornstar at the heart of a new documentary that's turning heads and raising questions about sexuality, morality, and the future of sex.Stock — a former professor of philosophy, a leading critic of gender ideology, and a regular UnHerd contributor — agreed to watch the Bonnie Blue documentary at a screening and return with her reflections. In this wide-ranging conversation, she and Freddie delve into the deeper meaning behind the phenomenon: What does Bonnie Blue say about us? Is this just porn, or is it something more — a symptom of a culture in moral decline?They explore the lasting wisdom of Roger Scruton, whose warnings about the separation of sex from beauty and meaning now feel prescient. They also consider the implications of the Online Safety Act, censorship, the state's role in regulating sexual content, and whether we’ve lost the language for intimacy, mystery, and erotic imagination. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Freddie Sayers interviews renowned physicist and author Lawrence Krauss to explore how culture wars and ideological issues threaten science and his new book The War on Science—an anthology of essays from leading scientific thinkers including Jordan Peterson, Richard Dawkins, and Peter Boghossian, examining how academia and scientific institutions are increasingly under siege from within.Krauss lays out how “woke” ideology, DEI policies, and campus cancel culture are eroding the foundations of open inquiry, with contributors offering alarming insights from across disciplines—from medicine and biology to physics and philosophy. He discusses high-profile incidents like the recent antisemitism scandals at Harvard, arguing they reflect a broader intellectual crisis gripping universities.The conversation then shifts to the political backlash, particularly on the American right. With Donald Trump and other conservative figures now sceptical of academia altogether, Krauss raises concerns that the pendulum may be swinging too far the other way—threatening funding, trust in scientific institutions, and the space for real reform.From ideological capture in the lecture hall to political overreach in Washington, Krauss and Sayers dissect what’s driving this war on science, why it matters, and what’s at stake if both sides keep escalating. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Freddie Sayers, UnHerd’s Editor-in-Chief, sits down with Patrick Christys, GB News journalist, fresh from his reporting on the ground in the Calais migrant camps, to probe their volatile dynamics and the escalating UK migration crisis.Christys recounts his experience posing as a migrant to expose how, reportedly, easy it is to contact people smugglers orchestrating illegal Channel crossings, revealing a hostile environment rife with confrontations, a charity he says is allegedly facilitating crossings, and the stark accessibility of trafficking networks, raising urgent concerns about French authorities’ inaction and the role of NGOs in this chaotic situation.Turning to the UK, Christys unpacks the mounting tensions surrounding migrant hotels – with officials calling the situation a “powder keg” and government fearing of a “summer of riots”. With protests flaring, most recently in Epping and Canary Wharf, and public frustration growing over strained resources, he examines the deepening divide fuelled by polarised rhetoric and distrust in political leadership. From Calais camps to British streets, Christys highlights why the migration crisis risks sparking widespread unrest, what’s at stake if tensions erupt, and what can be done to stop it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
UnHerd’s Florence Read sits down with Todd McGowan – philosopher, film theorist, and author of Pure Excess, Capitalism and the Commodity – to dissect the new Superman film and its deeper political, philosophical, and psychoanalytic currents.As Hollywood leans heavily on superhero franchises, and remakes and adaptations of all sorts, they question whether Superman embodies a "stuck culture," where studios’ risk-averse, profit-driven strategies stifle cinematic innovation. Todd probes whether this trend signals a decline in bold, original art, contrasting it with the provocative visions of directors like David Lynch, Stanley Kubrick, Spike Lee, and Martin Scorsese, the latter of which criticised superhero films as “not cinema”, they explore if genres, like horror, have taken up the mantle, delivering the confrontational, cathartic experiences superhero films often lack.Todd finds merit in the new Superman, praising its execution and thematic depth, and reveals why superhero films reflect broader cultural tensions, what’s at stake for cinema’s future, and whether bold auteurs can still break through the noise. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Freddie Sayers, UnHerd’s Editor-in-Chief, sits down with Helen Thompson – Professor of Political Economy at Cambridge University and author of Disorder: Hard Times in the 21st Century – to dive into the high-stakes geopolitics of rare earth elements.As China tightens its grip on the global supply of these critical minerals—vital for everything from electric vehicles to military tech—the West scrambles to catch up. Helen unpacks how China’s dominance, built through strategic foresight and control of refining, has left the US and Europe vulnerable. From trade wars to green energy ambitions, they explore whether the West can break free from China’s chokehold or if a rare earths crisis is looming.Helen reveals why rare earths are the hidden battleground of global power, what’s at stake if the West loses, and whether the moon holds the keys to the future. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Freddie Sayers, UnHerd’s Editor-in-Chief, interviews journalist Michael Tracey to unpack the recent Jeffrey Epstein files news, and the use and proliferation of conspiracy theories.The Trump administration’s hyped-up promise of explosive Epstein revelations, including a “client list,” has fallen flat. The Department of Justice and FBI now confirm there is now list and Epstein’s death was indeed suicide, pushing back against years of wild speculation. Michael examines whether Trump, JD Vance, Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and Dan Bongino, naively, or cynically, fuelled Epstein conspiracy theories – namely, that “Epstein didn’t kill himself”, and more – to rally their base, only to now face flak for either hiding the truth or admitting there was nothing to reveal.Freddie and Michael draw parallels with the JFK files, where declassification also disappointed, offering little new insight. Touching on Israel, UFOs, the military industrial complex, they explore how Trump’s administration has leaned into conspiracies for political gain and now faces the fallout when the “truth” underwhelms. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Mearsheimer's fundamental error is to assume the Israelis are the aggressors. But it's Iran that wishes to destroy Israel - they have said so, and worked to achieve that goal.
A new religion.
yanis totally wrong about ais election
Dumpster diving?! Wow. Glad I'm not young enough to consider her.
could they have chosen a more out of touch panel
you can't say that anymore
Of course people who make a good living out of podcasts are going to trash the 'legacy media'. There's a need for both to help shed light on the world.
Fuck this warhawk.
I hoped for more pushback here. Shrier makes bizarre claims without support, misrepresents research, sneers at and strawmans opposing positions. She's a journalist selling a book and has no expertise in any relevant area, which is obvious when you isolate the truth claims from the style of presentation. It's a pity; her central claims are worthy of exploration and have some support in the relevant fields. They are not, however, original or well presented.
Patrick Brown is not fully informed. Climate is very complex but both past geologic proxy measurements and comparing the second derivative of the Keeling CO2 curve to satellite atmospheric temperature measurements clearly show temperature changes before CO2 concentrations change. It is clear that CO2 is not a major factor affecting Earth's atmospheric temperature. The global warming hypothesis has reversed cause and effect. Look at the measurments, you will be relived.
Great balanced interview. It's hard to imagine that there were no repercussions given the existing law at the time.
This conversation with Konstantin shows up Freddy as very woke. He doesn't get the reality of the situation.
Love Glenn! Great interview!
A bit disjointed. WTF is "biological oppression"? I would need an explanation otherwise all I can think of is biological reality.
No doubt, sooner or later, a publisher with more integrity than Pan Macmillan will snap Clanchy up. Her emotional pain at being outcast by her publisher and pursued by a tiny, hateful mob on Twitter was palpable. The hounding abuse she has been subjected to is disgraceful.
Prof. Baylor, respectfully, Re covid vaccines: Thoughtful people take the best decision for themselves based on their own risk/benefit analysis. Over 7,000 people have died in the U.S. from the vaccine, and over 1,000 mostly young males have developed myocarditis. My son knows a healthy guy in his 20s who died within two days of receiving the vaccine. That young man essentially had zero risk of death had he caught the virus. Seems understandable to me that some of his family and friends now are vaccine hesitant. Your comment about the unvaccinated being mostly Trump voters was made to be an insult. That kind of nudging probably is counter productive and makes you look like an ass. -KB (she/her/vaccinated)