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Unbelievable? offers a weekly podcast, blog, and video series hosted by Ruth Jackson and a team of thinkers and Christian apologists.
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Tom Holland and philosopher A.C. Grayling differ deliciously in this classic Big Conversation part of Premier's Unbelievable? Podcast. Where does the West’s moral compass really come from? Drawing on Holland’s bestselling Dominion and Grayling’s secular humanism, they spar over the roots of dignity, equality and rights. Was the cross a moral revolution that overturned Rome’s hierarchy reshaping attitudes to slavery, sex, and the status of victims? Or do our ethics flow chiefly from classical philosophy, the Renaissance and Enlightenment? Expect lively exchanges on Paul, Stoicism, preserving ancient texts, the abolition of slavery, and whether humanism is a “godless Protestantism”. A riveting clash of history and philosophy and what it means for faith, reason, science, law, culture and public life today and beyond.
For AC Grayling’s ‘The History of Philosophy’ https://www.amazon.co.uk/History-Philosophy-C-Grayling/dp/0241304539
For Tom Holland’s ‘Dominion’ https://www.amazon.com/Dominion-Christian-Revolution-Remade-World/dp/0465093507
A bestselling French engineer argues that modern cosmology points to a Creator — but a leading physicist says science explains it all without God. Unbelievable? podcast John Nelson hosts cosmologist Dr Niayesh Afshordi and entrepreneur-author and engineer Michel-Yves Bolloré for a lively clash on cosmic origins. Afshordi outlines ideas that our universe may have emerged from a black hole and surveys competing models of the Big Bang. Bolloré, co-author of God: The Science, The Evidence, argues that twentieth-century discoveries—from thermodynamics and entropy to expansion and fine-tuning—stack up as evidence for a Creator. They test “beginning versus eternity,” debate whether fine-tuning signals design or selection effects, and ask what constitutes prediction, falsifiability, and proof. Is the “God hypothesis” scientific, metaphysical, or both? Can science ever answer “why there is something rather than nothing”? Thoughtful, spirited, and friendly, this episode brings faith and physics into constructive dialogue.
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How did the universe come into being, and why are we part of it? Sir Roger Penrose (atheist-leaning Nobel laureate) and Christian philosopher William Lane Craig come together for this mind-stretching Big Conversation: “Did the universe begin and what is its origin and purpose in it?” Penrose outlines his three “mysteries” (physics, mind, mathematics) and his Conformal Cyclic Cosmology, while Craig argues that the beginning of the universe, the applicability of maths, morality and fine-tuning point to a divine mind. Expect respectful fireworks and first-rate clarity from two titans on this classic of Unbelievable? podcast. Since recording, Penrose received the 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics for work on black holes, reinvigorating interest in his cosmic ideas. Craig has continued to draw huge audiences, publishing In Quest of the Historical Adam (2021) and debating cosmology and God worldwide.
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In this special Unbelievable? debate, recorded live at Waddesdon High School, Andy Kind moderates a lively exchange between philosopher Dr Shaun Stevenson and Oxford doctoral candidate Nathan Elvidge on one of life’s biggest questions: Does God exist?
From the origins of religious belief to the grounding of morality, the two thinkers spar over whether right and wrong can be explained without God, the problem of evil, and whether concepts like “absolute morality” require a divine lawgiver. Along the way, they tackle Spinoza, slavery, free will, the Garden of Eden, and even whether “evil” itself is an illusion.
Engaging, challenging, and thought-provoking, this conversation brings philosophy into the classroom, offering students and listeners alike a window into one of humanity’s oldest debates.
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Two world-class cosmologists talk it out in a classic Unbelievable? podcast debate: What best explains the universe—God or naturalism? Christian astrophysicist Luke Barnes (Sydney Institute for Astronomy; co-author A Fortunate Universe) and atheist physicist Sean Carroll (Caltech; author The Big Picture) explore whether Big Bang cosmology hints at a beginning with purpose, or a brute fact within a naturalistic story. Expect poetic naturalism, the fine-tuning of physical constants, the role (and limits) of explanation in fundamental physics, and whether a multiverse offers a better account of a life-permitting cosmos. Is the universe’s mathematical elegance evidence for design, or simply how reality is? Would we expect a universe this vast if humans matter to God? Expect rigorous science, sharp philosophy, and respectful pushback as Barnes and Carroll test theism and naturalism against the full sweep of cosmic evidence.
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1Few topics raise as many questions as hell. Is it eternal torment, final destruction, or something else entirely? In this episode of Premier Unbelievable?, Vince Vitale is joined by Australian apologist Dan Paterson (Questioning Christianity: Is There More to the Story?) and Catholic theologian Jordan Wood (The Whole Mystery of Christ). Together they explore whether the traditional doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment is biblically and theologically defensible, and why so many Christians today are reconsidering alternative views such as conditional immortality or annihilationism.
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In this second part of Unbelievable? Season 2’s The Big Conversation, recorded before a live London audience in partnership with the Templeton Religion Trust, we return to Christian theologian Prof. Alister McGrath (University of Oxford) and evolutionary biologist Brett Weinstein.
Having debated whether religion is a useful fiction or ultimate truth in Part One, McGrath and Weinstein now field questions from the audience. The Q&A covers wide-ranging issues: is humanity more than an “over-evolved animal”? Has evolutionary science stalled since Dawkins’ The Selfish Gene? Does Scripture remain relevant in addressing modern moral concerns? What are the evolutionary benefits of following Jesus? And is belief in God essential to the usefulness of religion?
A lively, respectful dialogue probing the deepest questions of science, faith, and human meaning.
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In this classic episode of Unbelievable? The Big Conversation, recorded before a live London audience in partnership with the Templeton Religion Trust, Christian theologian Prof. Alister McGrath (University of Oxford) and evolutionary biologist Brett Weinstein explore the provocative question: Is religion a useful fiction or ultimate truth?
Weinstein, well known for his work on evolutionary theory and public debates on culture, argues that religion may be literally false but metaphorically true—an adaptive survival mechanism. McGrath, drawing on his journey from atheism to Christian faith, contends that Christianity is not only beneficial but also true.
This is Part One of the discussion. Join us next time for Part Two, featuring audience Q&A with the speakers.
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The shocking death of Charlie Kirk has left a void in the public square. However you felt about his politics or style, he was a figure unafraid to step into hostile spaces, defend his Christian faith, and face opponents head-on. From the Oxford Union to U.S. campuses, Kirk embodied a willingness to disagree openly at a time when many retreat to echo chambers.
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In this live edition of Unbelievable?, Andy Kind hosts a fascinating conversation on the nature of the soul and spiritual experience.
Philosopher Harry Amos, a former Christian turned humanist, challenges whether the soul exists at all, pointing to science, consciousness studies, and the limits of dualism. Meanwhile, Dr. Claire Gilbert, writer and ethicist, shares her profound personal journey through faith, ecology, and cancer, drawing inspiration from Julian of Norwich and the deep mysteries of spirit, love, and human worth.
From neuroscience and quantum mechanics to prayer, mortality, and whether dogs have souls (!), this discussion wrestles with some of the most profound questions humans can ask.
In this classic Big Conversation, mathematician and Christian thinker John Lennox
sits down with philosopher of science Michael Ruse before a live London audience to ask whether modern science points towards — or away from — God. They trace the roots of science in the Judeo-Christian worldview, debate “scientism,” and spar over miracles (from water into wine to the Resurrection), natural theology versus faith, and the “unreasonable effectiveness” of mathematics. The pair tackle evil and suffering — yes, even hemorrhoids — free will, Auschwitz, and whether hope requires revelation. Audience Q&A presses them on the Big Bang, objective morality, Calvinism, and what counts as . Expect sharp disagreement, surprising agreement, and plenty of wit as Lennox argues for evidence-based faith and Ruse defends a conservative, largely agnostic naturalism.
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In this second part of our Premier Unbelievable? schools debate with Aylesbury Youth or Christ, host Andy Kind is joined once again by philosophers Dr Amna Whiston (Oxford University) and Dr Alex Carter (Cambridge University) to explore the ethical dilemmas raised by artificial intelligence.
What happens when machines are asked to make moral decisions? Can AI ever be truly responsible - or feel pain? What are the risks of outsourcing human judgment to code? And is a "happy dystopia" ruled by AI just around the corner?
Together, they unpack issues like the trolley problem, privacy, intellectual property, moral intuition, and the dehumanising effects of the “race to the middle.” This thought-provoking conversation asks not just what AI can do, but what it might undo in human society.
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Illusionist and writer Derren Brown joins broadcaster and Anglican priest Rev. Richard Coles for a searching conversation on The Big Conversation stage of Unbelievable?. Both men tell strikingly different life stories: Brown, once a youthful Christian, gradually left faith behind as his fascination with the mind, psychology, and scepticism grew. Coles, meanwhile, rose to fame in the 1980s pop group The Communards before an unexpected conversion led him into Christian ministry.
In this dialogue they share candid reflections on happiness, suffering, transcendence and the role of stories in shaping our lives. Can Stoic philosophy provide enough meaning without belief in God? Does Christianity uniquely transform suffering into hope? And how do we face death in a culture that has lost its guiding narratives?
This classic edition invites listeners to weigh whether life’s deepest questions find their fullest answer with—or without—God.
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If God is all-powerful and all-loving, why does so much evil exist?
In this edition of Unbelievable?, Christian philosopher Dr. Joshua Sijuwade debates atheist philosopher Dr. Stephen Law on whether the reality of suffering undermines belief in God - or whether there are good reasons a loving God might allow it.
From moral evil and natural disasters to the evil God challenge and the limits of human understanding, the discussion dives deep into one of philosophy’s most enduring and emotionally charged questions.
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What does it really mean to think, create, or feel? Are we losing our humanity in the age of AI - or discovering it anew? In this live schools debate with Aylesbury Youth For Christ, Premier Unbelievable? host Andy Kind is joined by Dr Amna Whiston (Oxford) and Dr Alex Carter (Cambridge) to explore the limits of artificial intelligence. Together they ask: Can machines ever truly be creative? Can they experience emotion - or are they just mirroring us back to ourselves?
Expect a lively, thoughtful and sometimes humorous conversation on philosophy of mind, the uncanny valley, whether AI can be conscious, and what separates humans from code. Along the way, they touch on Jackson Pollock, emotional reasoning, giddiness, and even Gattaca vs Skynet - a must-listen for anyone curious about the future of humanity in a technological world.
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Humanism vs Christianity: Who Really Shaped the Modern World? In this gripping episode of The Big Conversation for Unbelievable? Harvard psychologist Steven Pinker and bestselling author debates Christian thinker Nick Spencer on whether the Enlightenment values of science, reason, and humanism have made religious belief redundant. Pinker defends the legacy of secular progress, arguing that human flourishing owes more to data and rationalism than divine revelation. Spencer acknowledges the progress but challenges Pinker’s foundations—arguing that modern values like equality and human dignity have deep Christian roots. From the abolition of slavery to the origins of science, this is a searching conversation about what truly underpins human progress.
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In this explosive end-of-term schools debate, Unbelievable? host Andy Kind moderates a gripping clash between Christian evangelist and CEO of Speak Life, Glen Scrivener and John Richards, President of Atheism UK. Recorded live at St Michael's School in Aylesbury (thanks to Aylesbury Youth For Christ), the debate asks: Does Christianity provide the moral foundation of the West? Glen argues that Western values—such as equality and compassion—are shaped by 2,000 years of Christian influence. John counters that morality evolved naturally and religion often fuels division. From ancient Rome to Richard Dawkins, from the Good Samaritan to scientific discovery, this is a passionate exchange that pulls no punches.
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Can Jesus be meaningfully compared to other spiritual figures like Krishna? In this classic episode, Christian philosopher Ken Samples and Hindu representative Dipen Rajyaguru join Justin Brierley to explore Hinduism, the person of Krishna, and whether all religions ultimately lead to the same God. Drawing from his book God Among Sages, Ken believe that Jesus is unique among all spiritual leaders and is superior to Krishna in terms of his historical and moral record and his offer of salvation. Ken argues for the uniqueness of Jesus as God incarnate, while Dipen explains Hindu perspectives on avatars, karma, and Krishna as a divine figure. The conversation navigates areas of agreement—such as mutual respect and moral insights—as well as deep differences on sin, salvation, and the exclusivity of truth claims.
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What kind of future does humanity need? One shaped by Christian theism or guided by secular humanism? In this edition of Unbelievable?, philosopher and atheist Dr. Stephen Law goes head-to-head with Christian apologist and YouTuber Mike Jones (Inspiring Philosophy) to debate which worldview offers a stronger foundation for meaning, morality, and human flourishing.
Do concepts like human rights, dignity, and progress depend on a belief in God?
Can secular humanism provide a compelling vision for the future without religion?
Which worldview better addresses suffering, justice, and hope?
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Jesus in Christianity and Islam: Can We Bridge the Divide?
Mustafa Akyol, author of The Islamic Jesus, and Richard Shumack, author of Jesus Through Muslim Eyes discuss what do Muslims and Christians really believe about Jesus—and can their views be reconciled? Mustafa argues that the Jesus of Islam reflects a lost strand of early Jewish Christianity—one that did not view Jesus as divine but as a prophet and messiah. Richard responds with a robust Christian defence, noting early worship of Jesus and questioning whether Jewish-Christian sects like the Ebionites represented the faith's true origins. Together, they explore profound theological differences, shared reverence for Jesus, and the possibility of mutual understanding without erasing essential convictions. Can honest disagreement lead to deeper friendship between faiths?
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Islam, Judaism, and most Christians miss the point that Christ is the Logos, which is inadequately translated as the "Word". Anyone willing to investigate the meaning and concept of Logos incarnate will come to see Jesus as the one and only Lord and Saviour.
I found this somewhat boring. I don't know if it was the guests, the fact that it has a format for radio, the host, or a combination.
Absolutely awesome discussion. I must highlight David's statement: "I did not become celibate because I'm gay, but because Jesus is worthy". Wow!
bizarrely, it looks like this podcast has been hijacked by a short story podcast also called 'unbelievable'
There is nothing more annoying than listening to an "atheist"... they all come across as petulant children with daddy issues.
What a diverse panel! /s This show has seriously lost the original appeal of having opposing viewpoints. Of course - the Bible condones slavery. And, the morality of the Bible is subjective and relative. Twist all the pretzels you want.
Great... Christians can even agree on hell, and atheists are constantly threatened with it. It never stops amazing me how believers claim to have to the truth about a god, life, the universe, afterlife, and so on - but they don't even agree within themselves. It reminds me of being a Christian in the 90s when there were Christian bookstores all around. There would only be a couple rows of Bibles (in multiple translations), and dozens of rows of other books trying to explain the Bibles.
Listening to this in 2024, with the benefit of hindsight, is amazing. Note the section from ±50:00–62:00. Andrea mentions, near the end, how the religious right's alliance with Trump had not had much fruit, with Roe v Wade as an example. We all know how that turned out, and I would love to hear what she thinks about that. Having said that, I absolutely think Andy Flanagan and Andrea are on the money with their concerns about the price we pay for such alliances. John's response misses the point.
great episode
a hill of beans
what about the millions of people born with an unclear gender or mixed gender (xxy, hormonal disbalance and others)
Typical theists skipping over awkward questions about the embarrassing parts of the bible such as slavery being endorsed. Theists only ever cherry pick the nice parts. The Bible is a vulgar book of fables that endorses genocide, misogyny, homophobia, slavery, racism and child abuse
do you have catholics on?
Thank you! I would love to hear a discussion about covenant theology vs dispensationalism. This one touches on it, but doesn't focus on it.
This was really helpful, thank you! As a "reformed" Christian, I really wanted to understand arguments from the other side.
this was ridiculous and best summed with "I don't know know what your are talking about....but it's not science"
I am sick of these stupid race debates. it doesn't matter what skin colour Jesus is. He is the Lord. the devil is using the race issues to defend us more and we keep letting it happen. Just stop it. Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
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I loved this discussion, but it seems to have had an issue in the middle where the audio starts to replay an earlier segment.
I cannot accept that "cancer" wasn't in the design, that it was brought into us by Adam's sin. I find that atrocious to think god is punishing random people with disease because of of something that is written in the bible. I wonder if god is the reason for Covid.....just ridiculous. It's biology, and biology has been existing before us, before our brain thought if the idea of what biology was. It's just crazy to think god created biological cells that harm humans because man supposedly sin. Which isn't even provable.