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Welcome to “The Chopping Block!” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week, they cover: why Bitcoin maximalists are mad about Bitcoin NFTs why Robert thinks Bitcoin is not a good blockchain on which to build things why Canto, a layer 1 blockchain, surged in price and activity and why Haseeb is anti-Canto how Ethereum will have multi-dimensional fee structures  what the role of applications in generalized blockchains should be and why they think they shouldn't be enforced at the base layer the accusations against the LayerZero team and their response the battle to provide the bridging services to Uniswap Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital Links Disclosures Bitcoin NFTs:  The Block: What are Bitcoin NFTs Ordinals and how do they work? BTC: Core On-chain - Glassnode Studio Bitcoin - The Overview Ordinals Canto:  The Block: Layer 1 blockchain Canto sees surge in trading activity Canto - Lending LayerZero controversy: James Prestwich’s tweet Bryan Pellegrino’s response Explanation of the situation by Bartek Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Following the release of Celsius' examiner report, Kadhim Shubber, an investigative reporter at The Financial Times, dives into the controversial business practices of the lender, how the company inflated the CEL token, the use of customers' money, and much more. Show highlights: how Celsius used investors’ money to prop up the price of CEL the reasons why Celsius inflated the CEL token where the money to pay rewards to investors came from blatant misstatements from Alex Mashinsky and how his team tried to cover him how the company leveraged Bitcoin to fill the hole in its balance sheet who was responsible for Celsius' shady business practices Celsius' poor investment decisions whether Mashinsky is at risk of facing criminal charges Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Kadhim: Twitter Links Final report of Shoba Pillay, examiner Financial Times: Crypto lender Celsius misused customer funds for years, examiner finds Unchained: 7 Revelations From Celsius’ Examiner Report CoinDesk: Celsius Used New Customer Funds to Pay for Withdrawals: Independent Examiner The Block: Tether denies it borrowed $2B from Celsius, as described in court report Blockchain News: Celsius' Official Creditor Committee Denies Rejected Bids Ram Ahluwalia’s take on the Celsius bankruptcy examiner report Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sheila Warren, CEO of the Crypto Council for Innovation, and Miller Whitehouse-Levine, Policy Director of the DeFi Education Fund, offer insider takes on how lawmakers and regulators are viewing crypto after FTX’s catastrophic failure. Both expect heightened activity in the U.S. from what they’re calling the “Crypto Congress.” Will this be the year for stablecoin regulation? Is DeFi still in the crosshairs? What about Ripple’s fight with the SEC? The two crypto policy experts look to the U.S. and beyond for what regulatory battles lie ahead in 2023. Show highlights: why the current environment in Washington makes it difficult to pass new legislation whether the opinion of members of Congress on crypto has changed in the aftermath of FTX’s alleged fraud how Elizabeth Warren and others are using the FTX collapse to prove their anti-crypto stance whether it’s possible to prevent a fallout like FTX from ever happening again why Miller believes that this year Congress will be “absolutely obsessed” with crypto what stablecoin legislation would look like, and why stablecoins are more likely to be regulated sooner why Sheila thinks Ripple could win its case against the SEC why they believe the SEC’s failure to approve a spot Bitcoin ETF is a logical inconsistency  why they think it’s not possible to apply TradFi rules to DeFi technology how more policymaker education needs to be done how OFAC sanctioning Tornado Cash sparked many conversations among researchers and policymakers the role of the government in preserving national security how MiCA took an appropriately slow approach to imposing DeFi regulations the impact of China and India adopting digital currencies  why Miller thinks China’s digital yuan is “the apotheosis of a totalitarian technology”  Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com FTSE Links Previous coverage of Unchained on crypto legislation: Why Bitcoin Now: Michael Casey and Niall Ferguson on How Bitcoin Fits in the History of Money Kristin Smith on Why Crypto Legislation Could Be Passed by Year's End Why Senator Pat Toomey Thinks SEC Chair Gary Gensler Is Wrong About Crypto Guests: Sheila: Twitter Miller: LinkedIn FTX CoinDesk:  After FTX: How Congress Is Gearing Up to Regulate Crypto Congress' FTX Problem: 1 in 3 Members Got Cash From Crypto Exchange's Bosses After FTX: How Congress Is Gearing Up to Regulate Crypto CNBC: House Republicans move to regulate crypto industry with a new subcommittee MiCA CoinDesk: Analyzing What's Next for Europe's Markets in Crypto Assets Law EU’s MiCA Crypto Law Would Have Stopped FTX's Malpractice, Officials Say Others Project Hamilton - Building a Hypothetical Central Bank Digital Currency U.S. Treasury Sanctions Notorious Virtual Currency Mixer Tornado Cash Tornado Cash is no “golem.” It’s a tool for privacy and free speech. - Coin Center Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block!” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week, Flashbots co-founder Phil Daian joins the show to go deep on what maximal extractable value (MEV) means and how it’s shaping the Ethereum ecosystem. Show highlights: how Phil started working in MEV and why he believes it resembles 'Alice in Wonderland' Phil's definition of MEV and when he realized this was an actual problem how Flashbots was born the story of how Vitalik didn't care about sandwich attacks at the time Uniswap was released whether it's possible to minimize MEV via more competition the never-ending debate about whether MEV should be accepted why Tarun thinks the concept of fair ordering is against nature  how Bitcoin uses social norms to solve its weaknesses  how Google is being called out in court for creating auction to front run its customers how Flashbots worked prior to and after Ethereum's Merge why Flashbots complies with OFAC sanctions  what is the Suave project and how it aims to decentralize Flashbots what the future of MEV looks like Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital Guest: Phil: Twitter Disclosures Links The Block: Flashbots seeks up to $50 million at a billion-dollar valuation CoinDesk: Opinion: Miners, Front-Running-as-a-Service Is Theft CNN: DOJ sues Google over its dominance in online advertising market Unchained: 51% of Ethereum Blocks Are OFAC Censored Given the Sanctions on Tornado Cash, Is Ethereum Censorship Resistant? - Ep. 390 The Cost of Decentralization in 0x and EtherDelta Previous coverage of Unchained on MEV: Why Is Ethereum Trying to Maximize Value From Users? Two Sides Debate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Sonnenshein, CEO of Grayscale Investments, gives an overview of his firm’s case against the SEC, which has denied requests to turn Grayscale’s bitcoin trust into an exchange-traded fund (ETF). With oral arguments kicking off March 7, Sonnenshein lays out what a worst-case “tender offer” would entail and whether DCG CEO Barry Silbert has any say over GBTC’s fate.  Show highlights: why Grayscale charges higher fees than, say, the average ETF what Grayscale will do if it loses its case against the SEC why Grayscale has not filed for Regulation M relief Michael's comments on Gemini liquidating 31 million shares of GBTC the reason behind the October 2022 timing of Grayscale changing GBTC's “authorized participant” the relationship between Grayscale and DCG, and Barry Silbert's involvement in Grayscale's operations why the trust agreement of GBTC was changed Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Michael Sonnenshein: Twitter Links CNBC: Court sets date for oral arguments in Grayscale's challenge of SEC's bitcoin ETF decision Reuters:  Grayscale would appeal lawsuit against SEC if court rejects case, CEO says Ruling in Grayscale-U.S. SEC lawsuit likely within a year MarketWatch: Grayscale may ‘ultimately’ consider tender offer for bitcoin trust, CEO says CoinTelegraph: Grayscale terminates Bitcoin trust material agreements with Genesis CoinDesk: Grayscale Slams SEC's 'Unreasonable' Barring of Spot Bitcoin ETFs Bloomberg: Hedge Fund Sues Grayscale for Data on Battered Bitcoin Trust Bitcoinist: Here's What A Reg M Will Entail For Genesis, DCG And Bitcoin Why Investment Experts Say a Spot Bitcoin ETF Would Be Superior to Bitcoin Futures ETFs by Laura Shin Andrew Parish’s tweet on the possibility of the case going to the Supreme Court Grayscale’s End of Year CEO Letter to Investors Ycharts: GBTC Discount or Premium to NAV Previous coverage of Unchained on GBTC:  Bitwise's Latest Plans to Get a Bitcoin ETF Approved DCG's Dilemma: Should It Sell Its GBTC Holdings to Repay Gemini? Gemini vs. DCG Is Heating Up. Could Gemini Force Genesis Into Bankruptcy? ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block!” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week, they covered: why the markets were up so much recently how and why Genesis entered into bankruptcy why the hole in DCG's financials are potentially much bigger than previously reported the differences between the bankruptcies of FTX and Genesis whether 3AC founders Su Zhu and Kyle Davies will find success with their new exchange what will happen to GTBC now that a huge portion has already been liquidated whether Tarun is predicting "the start of a new supercycle" the large percentage of vested SOL held by the FTX estate how SBF is still trying to win the public  Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital Links Disclosures Genesis:  Bloomberg: FTX Bankruptcy Judge Backs Company Law Firm, Rejects Last Minute ‘Rumors’ CoinDesk:  Crypto Lender Genesis Global Capital Is FTX's Largest Unsecured Creditor Crypto Trading Firm Cumberland DRW Disputes Genesis Exposure CNBC:  Crypto firms Genesis and Gemini charged by SEC with selling unregistered securities Crypto publication CoinDesk hires Lazard to explore sale as crisis deepens at parent company DCG Unchained:  Is Genesis’s Prepackaged Bankruptcy The Ultimate Sacrifice?  Gemini Ends Its Earn Program and Calls for Barry Silbert’s Ouster DCG Under Investigation by DOJ and SEC: Report Genesis CEO Says Firm Needs More Time to Find a Solution FTX: Unchained:  SBF Says Excel Spreadsheet Proves FTX US Is Solvent WSJ: New FTX Chief Says Crypto Exchange Could Restart The Block: FTX debtors identify $5.5 billion of liquid assets in ’Herculean effort’ 3AC/GTX:  Unchained: 3AC Founders Are Raising $25M for ‘GTX’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

James Block, crypto skeptic and author of the Dirty Bubble Media newsletter, rose to prominence with a timely post predicting FTX’s insolvency. The blogger, a doctor by day, explains why he sees crypto as an unregulated morass of would-be securities and outright “Ponzi schemes.” From an early interest in Tether to connecting the dots on Celsius, Block explains why he does what he does and why almost all of crypto is just “regulatory arbitrage.” Show highlights: how James got into crypto and why he started writing about the space why James chose "Dirty Bubble Media" for the name of his publication the problems with the legitimacy of crypto projects the reasons to be bearish on Coinbase why the question of whether Bitcoin has intrinsic value is highly subjective whether every token in crypto is a scam and whether regulations will hit stablecoin issuers hard how FTX used tokens to create fictitious value worth billions of dollars  why Celsius and FTX were closely linked, and the difference between both cases ties James found between FTX's European subsidiary and a company doing binary options, an industry characterized by fraud how he believes financial fraud is similar throughout history — it doesn't repeat, but it rhymes James’s concerns around Signature Bank and its "questionable tactics" why Genesis and DCG got into trouble and how James thinks the situation will likely play out whether exchange tokens are securities and why he believes they have very little value why he says BNB resembles OneCoin's pyramid scheme James's contrarian take on the Avi Eisenberg case Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com DeFi Saver Links Guests: James Block: Twitter Substack FTX:  Dirty Bubble Media: Is Alameda Research Insolvent? FTX'ed: The Tangled Ties Of Celsius Network and Sam Bankman-Fried FTX's European subsidiary was built on top of a binary options scam A forgotten banking scandal suggests FTX is the tip of the crypto iceberg DCG Dirty Bubble Media: Digital Currency Grift  Unchained: ​SEC Charges Gemini and Genesis With Sale of Unregistered Securities Binance Dirty Bubble Media: The Binance Scam Chain Signature Bloomberg: Binance Says Signature Sets Transaction Minimum Amid Pullback Mango Markets The Ballad of Risk-Free Avi - Dirty Bubble Media  Unchained:  Mango Markets Exploiter Arrested on Market Manipulation Charges Solana’s Mango Markets Sees $100M Drained in DeFi Exploit Celsius Dirty Bubble Media: Anatomy of a (fake) Market Unchained: NYAG Sues Celsius’s Alex Mashinsky for Defrauding Investors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Maria Shen, partner at Electric Capital, unpacks the venture firm’s latest Developer Report. Hotly anticipated among crypto observers, the annual report captures which chains developers are building on. Despite 2022’s price carnage, the report finds developer interest remains strong. Ethereum is the leading chain by far but EVM-compatibility is emerging as a major force in winning developers’ hearts and minds. Shen unpacks Bitcoin’s stability, Terra’s implosion, and many more insights from crypto’s open-source code repos. Show highlights: why the report "undercounts" developers and how it defines active developers how developers represent a fundamental measure of the health of emerging technologies like crypto the meaning of developer numbers going up even when prices plummet why in recent years the speed of developer growth jumped so drastically what happened after the number of developers reached an all-time high in June 2022 the role of Terra in the decline of developer activity in 2022’s second half why Ethereum dominates the ecosystem and whether it will continue to be the leader the benefits of being part of “the EVM universe” why the number of Bitcoin developers has remained flat over the last year whether looking at the number of developers in the NFT ecosystem is even relevant Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Maria Shen: Twitter Electric Capital Developer Report Full report Maria’s 2022 thread 2021 report 2020 report Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From 3AC to FTX (and possibly more to come), it’s boom times for those trading crypto bankruptcy claims. Thomas Braziel, founder and CEO of 507 Capital, gives a crash course on bankruptcy law, offering the latest updates on the FTX, Celsius, and Three Arrows Capital cases. Plus, insight on how 2023 could finally be the year Mt. Gox creditors get (some) closure. Show highlights: how Tom got into crypto with the Mt. Gox bankruptcy and whether "crypto distressed" is an emerging asset class how buying bankruptcy claims is also a way to buy crypto assets at a discount how to determine how much value creditors are owed in a crypto bankruptcy what the marketplaces for buying and selling claims are like whether it's possible to tokenize bankruptcy claims whether crypto tokens should be treated as property what is likely to happen when Mt. Gox creditors are returned their BTC the importance of Celsius' separation of custodial assets vs. assets in interest-bearing accounts the likelihood of Celsius being acquired why the fact that FTX recovered $5 billion in assets is "amazing" why so many stakeholders disputed the ownership of the $450 million in Robinhood shares why there's so much difference in the prices of FTX, Voyager, BlockFi and Celsius claims whether the customer list of FTX should be kept private what type of creditors are Gemini Earn customers Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com DeFi Saver Links Guests: Thomas: Twitter 507 Capital Previous appearances on Unchained: Will FTX Customers Ever Recover Their Assets? Two Insolvency Experts Weigh In Will Celsius Survive the Bankruptcy Process? Episode Links:  Celsius Reuters: U.S. judge says Celsius Network owns most customer crypto deposits Celsius bankruptcy judge orders return of some crypto assets to customers Bloomberg: Bankrupt Crypto Lender Celsius Receives Multiple Bids for Retail and Mining Assets FTX Unchained:  DOJ Seizes $450M in Robinhood Shares from FTX Bankrupt FTX Recovers Over $5B Worth of Assets: Report CoinDesk:  FTX Creditor Claims Going for 13 Cents on the Dollar on Bankruptcy Marketplace Xclaim After Bankruptcy, FTX User Claims Pay Cents on the Dollar Fortune: Sam Bankman-Fried's lawyers just filed a claim to keep his $450 million in Robinhood shares Reuters: U.S. Trustee files objection to FTX's planned asset sales Thomas Braziel’s prediction on the FTX claims Connor Grogan’s take on the $5 billion in assets  DCG/Gemini: Unchained: Gemini Ends Its Earn Program and Calls for Barry Silbert’s Ouster 3AC Kyle Davies’ comments Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block!” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. Show topics: Haseeb’s TL;DR of the ongoing situation between DCG, Genesis and Gemini whether DCG committed fraud because of a misrepresentation of its financials why DCG did Genesis a favor by absorbing the losses from exposure to Three Arrows Capital what's required to force an entity into bankruptcy  why Cameron Winklevoss would request Barry Silbert to step down as DCG CEO the SEC’s probe into the investors of FTX and whether the regulators will fine them whether there will be on-chain assets for trading FTX bankruptcy claims what Tarun thinks of the future of NFTs and what needs to be built for them to thrive why Robert thinks most NFTs are “hot garbage” what the value behind NFTs is and whether they need a utility  whether the massive layoffs are good for the industry and how many companies over-hired during the bull market Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital Links DCG/Gemini: Unchained:  Gemini Ends Its Earn Program and Calls for Barry Silbert’s Ouster DCG Under Investigation by DOJ and SEC: Report Genesis CEO Says Firm Needs More Time to Find a Solution Previous coverage of Unchained on DCG and Genesis:  Gemini vs. DCG Is Heating Up. Could Gemini Force Genesis Into Bankruptcy? ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis Adam Cochran on Why Crypto Prices Will Be Down Bad for the Next Six Months Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Genesis May Be Facing Bankruptcy. Could It Take DCG Down With It? Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid FTX: Unchained:  DOJ Seizes $450M in Robinhood Shares from FTX Sam Bankman-Fried Pleads Not Guilty to All Charges Decrypt: FTX Restructuring Team Has Clawed Back $5B in Lost Assets Previous episodes of The Chopping Block on FTX: The Chopping Block: Can Exchange CEOs Like SBF Be Crypto True Believers? The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn't Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater The Chopping Block on FTX/Alameda: Is Sam Bankman-Fried 'Crypto Kanye'? The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning? Layoffs:  Unchained:  Coinbase Lays Off 950 Employees Amid Market Conditions Genesis Considers Bankruptcy and Cuts Another 30% of Staff: Report - Unchained Podcast Bloomberg: Silvergate (SI) Tumbles After FTX Implosion Prompts $8.1 Billion Bank Run Why We Missed On Inflation, and Implications for Monetary Policy Going Forward | by Neel Kashkari Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gemini has accused Digital Currency Group CEO Barry Silbert of fraud after allegedly misrepresenting the financials of his company. The accusations follow a dispute over the return of $900 million in assets owed to Gemini Earn’s users. Karim Dandashy, CFA and portfolio manager at XBTO Group, discusses everything about the ongoing drama between Genesis, its parent company DCG, and Gemini.  Show highlights: the fraud accusations against DCG CEO Barry Silbert all the details disclosed in Barry's response whether Genesis will file for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection the meaning of the $1.1 billion promissory note being not callable the EDNY and SEC investigation on transfers between DCG and a subsidiary – potentially Genesis whether the 1% interest rate charged for the loan was suitable considering the nature of Genesis' business whether DCG could sell its venture investments to plug the hole why Bitvavo rejected an offer from DCG to return 70% of the $300 million owed to them what Karim would do if he was leading DCG  Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Karim: Twitter LinkedIn Previous coverage of Unchained on DCG and Genesis:  Gemini vs. DCG Is Heating Up. Could Gemini Force Genesis Into Bankruptcy? ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis Adam Cochran on Why Crypto Prices Will Be Down Bad for the Next Six Months Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Genesis/Gemini: Unchained:  Gemini Ends Its Earn Program and Calls for Barry Silbert’s Ouster DCG Under Investigation by DOJ and SEC: Report Genesis CEO Says Firm Needs More Time to Find a Solution ​​Gemini Co-Founder Accuses DCG’s Barry Silbert of ‘Bad Faith and Stall Tactics’  Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report Financial Times: DCG’s crypto broker Genesis owes creditors more than $3bn Protos: Scoop: Larry Summers gives up advisory role at crypto firm DCG amid criticism CNBC: Crypto firms Genesis and Gemini charged by SEC with selling unregistered securities Forbes: Gemini Faces Class-Action Lawsuit Over Unregistered Interest-Bearing Accounts Decrypt: Dutch Bitcoin Exchange Bitvavo Says DCG’s Payback Plan ‘Not Acceptable’  Sam Andrew’s thread Ram Ahluwalia on DCG CEO’s update to shareholders Ryan Selkis on the definition of the current assets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gabriel Shapiro, general counsel at Delphi Labs, and Collins Belton, managing partner at Brookwood P.C., dive into the controversial case of Avi Eisenberg, the self-described “applied game theorist” who was arrested in Puerto Rico on Dec. 26 on market manipulation and fraud charges. The two crypto lawyers discuss the case’s potential impact on DeFi and DAO governance — and whether “code is law” stands a chance in the courtroom. Show highlights: whether Avi’s manipulation of the markets constitutes fraud  debating the crypto maxim “code is law” whether it’s wrong to use DeFi code in a “smarter way” how the Mango Markets exploit happened due to poor governance management whether crypto should be regulated from the securities angle or the commodities angle the consequences of Avi’s arrest for the DeFi space whether MEV could constitute market manipulation, even if it’s democratized for everybody the role of DAOs and whether early-stage projects should maintain some level of centralization how DAOs could be designed to have better mechanisms in order to deal with potential issues whether members of the Mango Markets DAO are liable because of their role in designing the system how Avi was “naive” to think he could avoid legal liability by returning the funds why Gabe thinks credit protocols are socially positive and why he hopes that prosecutors won’t “throw everyone in jail” Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com DeFi Saver Links Guests: Gabriel: Twitter Delphi Labs Gabriel’s Twitter thread on the case Previous appearances on Unchained:  The SEC's Lawsuit Against Ripple and 2 Execs: What You Need to Know Collins: Twitter LinkedIn Previous appearances on Unchained: How the Greatest Decentralizing Force for Crypto Projects Is the SEC Episode Links:  Previous coverage of Unchained on Avi Eisenberg and the Mango Markets exploit:  The Mango Markets Attacker on Whether His 'Trade' Was Ethical or Not - Ep. 413 The Chopping Block: 'Code Is Law' Is 'Obviously Not How Anything Works Ever' The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? - Ep. 428 Mango Markets exploit Explanation Avi’s “Highly profitable trading strategy” Twitter thread Unchained:  Mango Markets Exploiter Arrested on Market Manipulation Charges Mango Markets Exploiter Gets Liquidated But Leaves Aave With ‘Excess Debt’ Mango Markets $42M Reimbursement Proposal Passes Mango Markets Exploiter Returns $67M After Revealing His Identity Mango Markets Hacker Proposes Keeping $70M ‘Bad Debt’ As Bounty Solana’s Mango Markets Sees $100M Drained in DeFi Exploit Chaindebrief: How Manipulation On AAVE And CURVE Went Wrong, Attacker Got Rekted Instead The Defiant: Another Fork Bites the Dust: The Looming Fall of Fortress DAO and the Perils of Off-Chain Governance Karlstack: EXCLUSIVE: The Man Who May Have Milked $100+ Million from Mango Markets CoinDesk: The Impact of Avraham Eisenberg’s Case on the Future of Crypto Mango Markets Exploiter Eisenberg Arrested in Puerto Rico Mango Exploiter's Funds Get Liquidated After Roiling Aave Using $20M of Borrowed Curve Tokens Complaint CNBC: Decoding The Avraham Eisenberg Arrest And Its Impact On Crypto Bug Bounties, White Hat Hackers Decrypt: Mango Markets Attacker Avraham Eisenberg Arrested, Charged With 'Market-Manipulation Offenses' Protos: Who is Avraham Eisenberg and why is he all over Crypto Twitter? Crypto Briefing: Curve Whipsaws 75% as DeFi Degens Squeeze Avraham Eisenberg New Filing: CFTC charges Avi Eisenberg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ram Ahluwalia, CEO and cofounder at Lumida, talks about the ongoing dispute between Gemini and Digital Currency Group (DCG), specifically focusing on the actions and statements of DCG CEO Barry Silbert and Gemini’s cofounder Cameron Winklevoss. Ram discusses various aspects of the conflict, including the potential commingling of assets between DCG and its subsidiary Genesis and the options available to Gemini if DCG does not cooperate. Show highlights: how Cameron Winklevoss’s tweets attempt to put Barry Silbert in the same class of actors as Celsius and BlockFi whether the assets of DCG and Genesis are commingled what Gemini’s options are if DCG does not commit to cooperate whether Gemini will file an involuntary petition for Genesis to enter chapter 11 bankruptcy why Barry's statement that DCG didn't borrow $1.675 billion from Genesis is "very surprising" to Ram why it is relevant whether Genesis has a liquidity issue or an insolvency one whether a class-action lawsuit alleging Gemini's earn product is an unregistered security has any merit the essential role of the $1.1 billion promissory note and whether Genesis will drag DCG into bankruptcy if DCG goes under, what would happen to Grayscale whether Valkyrie is going to become the hero and save GBTC why DCG needs to accept the credit committee terms, according to Ram Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Ram: Twitter Ram Ahluwalia’s thread on Fir Tree and Valkyrie Previous appearances on Unchained: Genesis May Be Facing Bankruptcy. Could It Take DCG Down With It? Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid Previous coverage of Unchained on DCG and Genesis:  ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis Adam Cochran on Why Crypto Prices Will Be Down Bad for the Next Six Months Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Genesis: Unchained:  ​​Gemini Co-Founder Accuses DCG’s Barry Silbert of ‘Bad Faith Stall Tactics’  Genesis CEO Says Firm Needs More Time to Find a Solution Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report Protos: Scoop: Larry Summers gives up advisory role at crypto firm DCG amid criticism Forbes: Gemini Faces Class-Action Lawsuit Over Unregistered Interest-Bearing Accounts WSJ: Crypto Lender Genesis Asks Binance and Apollo for Cash Decrypt: Grayscale Ethereum Trust Trades at Record 60% Low Against Ethereum - Decrypt The Block: DCG CEO Barry Silbert updates shareholders, says company will emerge 'stronger' FT: Crypto broker Genesis owes Winklevoss exchange’s customers $900mn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lucas Nuzzi, head of R&D at CoinMetrics, and Larry Cermak, VP of research at The Block, discuss the current state of the crypto market, including the potential for contagion effects and the challenges faced by VC companies. They also delve into the mining industry and the issues surrounding MEV and Ethereum. The conversation also touches on stablecoins, DeFi activity and NFT trading, and the potential dangers of Binance's dominance in the industry.   Show highlights: how the collapse in 2022 of FTX and other behemoths will affect the industry in 2023 why there's been a lot of forced selling in the markets recently why the industry could still be headed to more contagion effects the characteristics of the current bear market, how it differs from previous ones, and the role of the macroeconomic environment why it's very hard to predict how prices will behave in 2023 why VC firms will have to focus on long-term projects rather than speculation what's going to happen in the Bitcoin mining industry in 2023 considering the current tough situation why Lucas thinks that Bitcoin "drastically overpays for security" why MEV is a concerning issue and how it represents a single point of failure for Ethereum how the narrative of alternative layer 1s has changed and why the focus will shift to layer 2s whether there is a need to develop better blockchain monitoring tools why stablecoin issuers have a very good business model given the interest rate environment what are the problems of stablecoins and how they will be regulated why DeFi activity and NFT trading were down so heavily in 2022 and whether the downtrend will change  how Binance's dominance is "terrifying" and whether it could hurt the industry Lucas' concerns about the lack of transparency around Binance's BNB token   Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Chainalysis Minima DeFi Saver   Links   Guests: Lucas : Twitter CoinMetrics   Larry: Twitter The Block Research Previous appearances on Unchained: Larry Cermak of The Block on What 90% of Bitcoin Trading Is For   The year in crypto:   FTX Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: Why Martin Shkreli Thinks SBF’s New Judge Could Still Be Lenient – Ep. 438 The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning?  How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing?  Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC   NFTs: The Block: From CryptoPunks to Redditors — and a Trump card: The year in NFT charts CoinDesk: Over $30B of NFT Trading Volume on Ethereum Is Wash Trading, Research Suggests NFT Market Overview   MEV:  MEV Watch Flashbots dashboard Unchained: Why Is Ethereum Trying to Maximize Value From Users? Two Sides Debate   BTC Mining: The Block: Bitcoin mining companies close out year $4 billion in debt: Report Unchained: Bitcoin Miners Going Bankrupt? Here's How Crypto Winter Is Impacting the Industry   Contagion:  Genesis/DCG:  Unchained:  ​​Genesis May Be Facing Bankruptcy. Could It Take DCG Down With It?  Genesis Owes Creditors At Least $1.8B: Report Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Martin Shkreli, entrepreneur, investor and convicted white-collar criminal, talks about the new judge assigned to the case against Sam Bankman-Fried, whether Sam’s going to plead guilty or not, and the potential involvement of his family in the lawsuit. Show highlights: whether Sam Bankman-Fried truly did not have money to post bail why the government did not restrict Sam's usage of the internet and social media why Martin thinks the new judge assigned to the case, Judge Lewis Kaplan, is good for SBF how many years Judge Kaplan could sentence SBF to, given his unusual work experience whether there's still a chance that Sam could paint this case as a business failure how defense attorneys will likely try to exploit the romantic relationship between Ellison and SBF in their favor why it is unlikely that SBF will plead guilty on the January 3rd arraignment date what a telemarketing fraudster case has to do with FTX how the prosecutors could indict SBF's family if he doesn't plead guilty how a jury would be selected  whether Sam has enough funds to pay for a decent lawyer and how that's going to affect the case how Martin learned about crypto while he was in prison how prisoners engage with crypto while incarcerated whether Sam could run a business from prison Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Martin: Socials Previous appearances of Martin on Unchained: Martin Shkreli Explains Why Sam Bankman-Fried Got Lucky With His Judge - Ep. 435 Videos on SBF: Which Gang Will Sam Bankman Join In Prison? | Martin Shkreli Gives Prison Advice to FTX CEO My Boy Sam Bankman Is Facing Life in Jail for Sure | Martin Shkreli Predicts the FTX Court Hearing Episode Links Reuters: Sam Bankman-Fried to enter plea in FTX fraud case Unchained: SBF Released on $250M Bond Secured by Parents Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang Plead Guilty and Are Cooperating in FTX Investigation SBF Signs Extradition Papers After 8 Nights in Bahamas Jail With AC and Cable TV CFTC and SEC File Damning Complaints Against Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested Amid US Indictment Bloomberg: Bankman-Fried Judge Recused Because Husband’s Firm Advised FTX FTX Bankruptcy Standoff Heats Up as Bahamas Challenges US Case Fortune: Sam Bankman-Fried indicted on multiple conspiracy and fraud charges by U.S. officials Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning?  How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing?  Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block! Crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the year 2022 in the crypto industry and share their biggest winners and losers of the year, what were the best mechanisms, the biggest surprises and the best memes, and their predictions for the upcoming year.   Show topics:   why stablecoin bulls performed so well in 2022, as well as journalism, DeFi, and the EVM how the reputation of the industry suffered tremendously in 2022 how Solana had to endure multiple hacks and challenges and whether it’s having its “ETH moment”  whether ETH is the only crypto with good tokenomics why MEV has seen such a massive adoption, even if it’s technically not good for crypto  why the investment landscape changed so much in June whether Arbitrum is the winner among layer 2s on Ethereum and the role of retroactive airdrops why so many lending companies went bust this year whether proof of reserves is a useful concept whether developers will go back to build on Ethereum rather than alternative layers 1s     Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital   Links   Last year's episode: The Chopping Block... 2021 in Crypto: The Biggest Winners, Biggest Losers, and Best Memes - Unchained Podcast   FTX: The Chopping Block: Can Exchange CEOs Like SBF Be Crypto True Believers? The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn't Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater The Chopping Block on FTX/Alameda: Is Sam Bankman-Fried 'Crypto Kanye'? The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning?   Tornado Cash The Chopping Block: Why DeFi May Be Over-Complying With Tornado Cash Sanctions The Chopping Block: Did OFAC Overstep by Sanctioning Tornado Cash? Solana The Chopping Block: Anatoly Yakovenko on Why Solana Is Building the SAGA Phone The Chopping Block: Why Solana’s Frequent Downtime Doesn't Bother Kyle Samani Terra: The Chopping Block: Kevin Zhou on Why He Knew Terra Would Crash  The Chopping Block: Does the New Terra Have Any Chance?  Others: The Chopping Block: Here’s What Was So Bad About Three Arrows Capital  The Chopping Block: SBF on a Crazy Week of Bitfinex, Wormhole and ENS Drama  The Chopping Block: Do Kwon Pitches a Decentralized NFT Publishing Service The Chopping Block: Did Andre Cronje Pull an Epic Crypto Rug Pull?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode of Unchained looks back on a tumultuous year for the cryptocurrency industry in 2022. Significant events such as the bankruptcies of FTX, Three Arrows Capital, Celsius, Voyager, BlockFi, and the collapse of Terra/LUNA, led to billions being lost due to market plunges and also due to numerous hacks.  This year also brought the Ethereum Merge, one of the most awaited events in crypto's short history. Amidst the turmoil, true believers like Chris Burniske saw a silver lining, while the crypto community watched for the further fallout of this year’s crypto contagion to play out.    Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Chainalysis Minima DeFi Saver DAO attacker revealed:  Exclusive: Crypto’s Biggest Whodunnit: Who Was Behind the 2016 DAO Attack on Ethereum? Exclusive: Austrian Programmer And Ex Crypto CEO Likely Stole $11 Billion Of Ether Ukraine War: How Ukraine Is Leveraging Crypto in Its Fight Against Russia - Unchained Podcast The Chopping Block: In 'the First Crypto War,' How Should the Money Be Spent? - Unchained Podcast Ukraine Has Received $150 Million in Crypto. Here’s How It Is Being Used - Unchained Podcast Hacks and exploits: Bridge Hacks Have Caused ~$1 Billion in Losses. Here’s Why Bridge Security Is Tricky - Unchained Podcast Terra collapse: Did Someone Deliberately Attack Terra/Luna to Kick off a Death Spiral? - Unchained Podcast Why Terra Collapsed and Whether an Algo Stablecoin Can Ever Succeed - Unchained Podcast The Chopping Block: Kevin Zhou on Why He Knew Terra Would Crash - Unchained Podcast The 5 Biggest Lessons From Terra/Luna's Collapse, According to Tascha Che - Unchained Podcast Bankruptcies - 3AC, Celsius and Voyager:  Why Possible Insolvencies by Celsius and 3AC Could Spell Disaster for Crypto - Ep. 364 - Unchained Podcast The Chopping Block: Here’s What Was So Bad About Three Arrows Capital - Ep. 368 - Unchained Podcast Three Crypto Bankruptcies: 3AC, Celsius and Voyager. What Happens Now?- Ep. 374 - Unchained Podcast Tornado Cash: Tornado Cash Sanctioned. Did the Government Overstep Its Bounds? - Ep. 384 - Unchained Podcast The Chopping Block: Did OFAC Overstep by Sanctioning Tornado Cash? - Ep. 386 - Unchained Podcast Is TRM Labs Blocking Addresses From DeFi Protocols? Ari Redbord Says No - Ep.387 - Unchained Podcast Given the Sanctions on Tornado Cash, Is Ethereum Censorship Resistant? - Ep. 390 - Unchained Podcast The Chopping Block: Why DeFi May Be Over-Complying With Tornado Cash Sanctions - Ep. 392 - Unchained Podcast The Merge: With the Merge, Will Ethereum Take Over Bitcoin’s Title as Digital Gold? - Ep. 389 - Unchained Podcast Arthur Hayes, Former Ethereum Skeptic, on Why the Merge Makes Him Bullish on ETH - Ep. 393 - Unchained Podcast Preston Van Loon on Ethereum's Merge and His Lawsuit Against Treasury- Ep.394 - Unchained Podcast Did the Merge Make Ethereum ‘the Most Secure Blockchain in the World’? – Ep. 397 Do Kwon comes on Unchained:  Do Kwon of Terra: ‘It Was Never Really About Money or Fame or Success’ – Ep. 408 NFT royalties: The Chopping Block: Two on Two Debate: NFT Royalty Throwdown! - Ep. 409 - Unchained Podcast Are NFT Royalties the Way? How to Build a Sustainable Creator Economy - Ep. 414 - Unchained Podcast FTX Collapse: The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? - Ep. 418 - Unchained Podcast Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets - Ep. 419 - Unchained Podcast Will FTX Customers Ever Recover Their Assets? Two Insolvency Experts Weigh In - Ep. 420 - Unchained Podcast The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn't Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater - Ep. 421 - Unchained Podcast Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? - Ep. 422 - Unchained Podcast Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion - Ep. 423 - Unchained Podcast The Chopping Block on FTX/Alameda: Is Sam Bankman-Fried 'Crypto Kanye'? - Ep. 424 - Unchained Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Martin Shkreli, entrepreneur and investor, talks about what Sam Bankman-Fried’s potential life in prison could look like. As a former white-collar criminal, Martin had a lot to say about prison culture, how judge selection affects sentencing, and more. Show highlights: why Martin says that the prosecution part of the case is the most difficult to endure why he thought Sam had "no chance at bail" (although shortly after we recorded, news broke that Sam had been released on what is believed to be the largest bail bond ever – $250 million) whether SBF should plead guilty and hope to be favored by his cooperation what jails in New York are like and how the other inmates might treat SBF  whether SBF will be in danger if he goes to prison and Martin's suggestions for him if he wants to survive why the FTX's case is so unprecedented, especially considering the current sentencing guidelines Martin's take on Ronnie Abrams, the judge in charge of the case, and why her selection will be good for SBF whether Caroline Ellison made a mistake by pleading guilty to so many counts why Gary Wang would likely face a tough time in prison for ratting out SBF Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Martin: Socials Videos on SBF: Which Gang Will Sam Bankman Join In Prison? | Martin Shkreli Gives Prison Advice to FTX CEO My Boy Sam Bankman Is Facing Life in Jail for Sure | Martin Shkreli Predicts the FTX Court Hearing Episode Links CNBC: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250 million bail, will live with his parents Unchained: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang Plead Guilty and Are Cooperating in FTX Investigation SBF Signs Extradition Papers After 8 Nights in Bahamas Jail With AC and Cable TV CFTC and SEC File Damning Complaints Against Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested Amid US Indictment Bloomberg:  FTX Bankruptcy Standoff Heats Up as Bahamas Challenges US Case Sam Bankman-Fried’s Harsh Bahamas Jail Could Shift His Stance on Extradition Fortune: Sam Bankman-Fried indicted on multiple conspiracy and fraud charges by U.S. officials Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning?  How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing?  Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What a year. Cobie, crypto investor and host of UpOnly, and Chris Burniske, partner at Placeholder Ventures, sift through 2022’s rubble for clues as to what lies ahead in 2023. The two bright lights of Crypto Twitter weigh in on SBF’s fraud, how to succeed through the bear market, and what remains promising despite the gloom and doom. Show highlights: why 2022 is “the hangover of 2021” why this year’s big meltdowns were different and dispiriting why it was actually a year to remind us of why we’re all here how the underlying protocols didn’t skip a beat how to survive the bear market what Chris feels guilty about in the wake of Alameda’s collapse why Cobie hopes SBF spends life in jail whether people will actually use decentralized alternatives – or if banking-like relationships will prevail what Chris sees as the 2023 version of proof-of-stake in 2017 why Cobie thinks bitcoin is an area of opportunity over the next few years whether the multichain thesis (“Solunavax”) will ever rise again whether the contagion is over if disgraced figureheads deserve a second chance a lightning round lookback on 2022 Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Chainalysis Minima DeFi Saver Guests: Cobie: Twitter Substack UpOnly Previous appearances on Unchained: Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets Cobie and Chris Burniske on How to Navigate a Crypto Bear Market Chris: Twitter Placeholder VC Previous appearances on Unchained: Chris Burniske: A Blank Slate of State Chris Burniske of Placeholder on the Downsides of ICOs The year in crypto: FTX Unchained: CFTC and SEC File Damning Complaints Against Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested Amid US Indictment FTX Bankruptcy Overseer Says Company’s Collapse Is Worst He’s Ever Seen Terra: CoinDesk: The Fall of Terra: A Timeline of the Meteoric Rise and Crash of UST and LUNA Three Arrows Capital CNBC’s full interview with Three Arrows Capital’s Kyle Davies on the downfall of the defunct crypto hedge fund CoinDesk: Three Arrows Capital Files for Bankruptcy in New York Tied to British Virgin Islands Proceeding DeCrypt: Bankrupt Three Arrows Capital Owes $3.5B to Creditors, Including $2.3B to Genesis Binance Unchained: Binance Passes Withdrawal ‘Stress Test’ After $3B in Daily Outflows Forbes: Kevin O’Leary Points Finger At Binance For FTX Crash In Senate Testimony Silvergate The Block: Silvergate CEO seeks to reassure investors over crypto contagion The Financial Times: Silvergate: from tiny local lender to bank behind the crypto boom Genesis/DCG:  Unchained:  Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report On-chain Analysts ID 432 GBTC Addresses After Grayscale Says No to Proof-of-Reserves Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Chopping Block! Crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra were joined by Laura Shin to chop it up about the latest news. Show topics: the details of the SEC and CFTC complaints how crypto traders have always speculated about Alameda's preferential treatment whether many people knew about the mismanagement of funds and alleged fraud why Haseeb thinks SBF was a "f*cking psycho" how helpful Tarun believes a testimony from Sam Trabucco, former co-CEO of Alameda, would be why Alameda and FTX lost billions of dollars, and the poor diligence of SBF's venture investments Sam's "ineffective altruism"  why a bull market wouldn't have solved the insolvency problems of FTX whether SBF will fight extradition and how long it would take how Sam's consistent use of Facebook and his anti-Maker stand shows he was not a crypto-native why Laura thinks that The Block CEO's undisclosed loans represent a "total betrayal" Robert's take on the ineffectiveness of the government's control of information why Binance is under scrutiny and whether it's the "next FTX" Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  Guest: Laura Shin, author, host of Unchained Episode Links FTX: Unchained:CFTC and SEC File Damning Complaints Against Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX SBF Denied Bail in The Bahamas, Will Remain in Fox Hill Prison Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested Amid US Indictment Bahamas Asked SBF to Mint Hundreds of Millions of Dollars’ Worth of New Tokens After Collapse, Say FTX Liquidators SBF Directed $8B Alameda Liabilities to an FTX Account He Called ‘Weird Korean,’ Says CFTC Forbes: Despite Boasting Of Big Profits, FTX And Alameda Lost $3.7 Billion Before 2022 Bloomberg: FTX Bankruptcy Standoff Heats Up as Bahamas Challenges US Case Sam Bankman-Fried’s Harsh Bahamas Jail Could Shift His Stance on Extradition Fortune: Sam Bankman-Fried indicted on multiple conspiracy and fraud charges by U.S. officials Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX:How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Binance: Unchained: Binance Passes Withdrawal ‘Stress Test’ After $3B in Daily Outflows Forbes: Kevin O’Leary Points Finger At Binance For FTX Crash In Senate Testimony The Block Unchained: The Block CEO Steps Down After Revealing He Was Secretly Funded By SBF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices