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Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.
248 Episodes
Jeff Dorman, the chief investment officer at Arca, comes on the show to give a macro perspective on the crypto environment. In this episode, he discusses: how economic data and real-world events have affected digital assets how Jeff classifies the different types of assets within crypto what market forces have pushed ETH to new all-time highs above $4k whether EIP 1559 will have the same effect on ether price as the Bitcoin halving has on BTC price what is happening with Dogecoin and other meme-coins why the market’s reaction to Tesla’s halt of BTC vehicle purchases was healthy whether environmental concerns surrounding Bitcoin will have long-term consequences on crypto as an asset class   Thank you to our sponsors!    Tezos:    NEAR:    Episode Links   Jeff Dorman Twitter Arca Blog post titled “How Economic Data Affects Digital Assets”  Blog post titled “The Four Types of Digital Assets”    Miscellaneous Links Dogecoin SNL clip SHIB token + dog meme-coins  Nic Carter on Bitcoin mining Tesla’s announcement on halting BTC vehicle purchases   Link to the Crypto News Recap:  
In this discussion I moderated for Paxos, Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev and Paxos CEO Charles Cascarilla discuss GameStop, the broken traditional financial infrastructure, and how blockchain technology may change the future of settlements. Show highlights:   why Robinhood stopped trading on GameStop and AMC stock earlier this year what both Charles and Vlad think the feasibility of T+0 settlements versus Citadel’s and the DTCC’s aim of T+1 settlements  how the GameStop scenario would have been different in a T+0 environment  what it would look like if certain markets used T+0 settlements while others still settled on T+1 why Robinhood decided to add crypto back in early 2018 how Robinhood’s crypto operations work on the back end why Robinhood does not allow users to move crypto off-platform whether securities trading or crypto will be a larger portion of both Paxos’ and Robinhood’s business model what Paxos and Robinhood have planned for the near future   Thank you to our sponsors! E&Y:   Kyber Network:     Episode Links:   People:   Charles Cascarilla   Linkedin  Coindesk Profile  Previous interview with Laura  Blog post on the GameStop saga    Vlad Tenev   Twitter  CNN Article  Tweet Thread on T+2    Companies: Paxos Twitter   Paxos Settlement Service   Wall Street Journal write-up    Robinhood   Twitter Robinhood Crypto Public offering    Miscellaneous Links   Citadel on settlements DTCC on settlements    Other:   Caitlin Long Unchained episode:   
Reshma Patel, a Democratic candidate for New York City’s Comptroller position, talks about her “future proof” plan for the city, which centers on investing in cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology. In this episode, she discusses: what duties the New York City Controller performs how Reshma thinks crypto and blockchain tech can help New York City, which she calls her “future proof” plan how a city comptroller would go about investing 1%-3% of the city’s pension funds into crypto what type of crypto investment vehicles would be appropriate for the city to invest in  why Reshma became interested in crypto in the first place  what sort of real-world issues blockchain technology could solve in NYC, particularly in its procurement system whether Reshma envisions an NYC blockchain solution for its procurement system being on a private or public blockchain  how the Comptroller could influence the state of New York to make the BitLicense more accessible for entrepreneurs  why NYC must compete in the blockchain/crypto space with Miami and Wyoming  how crypto could help NYC recover post-COVID  what comes next for Reshma’s campaign and why she is not allowed to receive crypto donations    Thank you to our sponsors!  Tezos:  NEAR:    Episode Links   Reshma Patel Twitter:  Blockchain campaign:  CoinDesk profile:  The Block article: Miscellaneous Links BitLicense  Duties of NYC Comptroller  Link to the Crypto News Recap:
Crypto sits at the intersection of two male-dominated industries: tech and finance. I was asked to moderate a panel for the Amber Group with four leading women in crypto to discuss the role of gender in the crypto industry and what can be done to bring more women into the space. Panelists include Mia Deng, partner at Dragonfly Capital; Amy Zhang, vice president of sales at Fireblocks; Alexis Gauba, cofounder at Opyn; and Annabelle Huang, partner at Amber Group. Show highlights: how each panelist got into crypto, what it is they do, and which company they work for why women have been somewhat reluctant to speak on crypto gender disparity in public what the main obstacles to bringing about better gender diversity in crypto whether the crypto space is harder to break into than traditional finance for women how gender issues in the U.S. are different than in Asia why more women have begun trading cryptocurrencies and how to increase that interest which crypto explanations are most effective for female friends why there are so few female crypto co-founders good hiring practices for bringing more women into the space advice for women trying to break into crypto    Thank you to our sponsors! E&Y:  Kyber Network:    Episode Links   Panelists Mia Deng Crypto career cofounder at TR Lab ---- NFT Platform (2021) partner at Dragonfly Capital -  Head of biz Development + Venture partner @ Amber Group -  Social link   Amy Zhang Crypto career vice president of sales at Fireblocks -  head of sales/investor relations at Diginex -  Social link    Alexis Gauba Crypto career cofounder at Opyn -  cofounder at she256 -  Social link   Annabelle Huang Crypto career partner at Amber Group  -  founding member at KeeperDAO -  risk lead at AirSwap -  Social Link
Dan Finlay, co-founder of MetaMask, talks about the meteoric growth of monthly active users of the crypto wallet, which has quintupled in the past seven months. In this episode, he discusses: which crypto use case drove MetaMask’s active user base to grow 5x in under a year what types of scaling solutions are drawing users to MetaMask how MetaMask works what kind of customers are using MetaMask  how MetaMask has grown without targeted marketing  whether the type of crypto usage in developing nations differed from developed nations which feature MetaMask released in 2020 that is bringing in revenue what pivotal moments in crypto over the past six years have brought new users to MetaMask why scalability and security are the most important challenges facing MetaMask in the short term  how MetaMask is trying to make online wallets more secure  how much volume users have traded via MetaMask's new swap feature  what new features are coming up for MetaMask wallets    Thank you to our sponsors!  InterPop:  NEAR:    Episode Links MetaMask Dan Finlay: MetaMask: $5 Million Monthly Active Users: MetaMask in Emerging Markets: Filecoin in MetaMask:    Miscellaneous Robbie Ferguson on Unchained: Marguerite deCourcelle on Unchained: Charles Cascarilla + Vlad Tenev conversation:   Link to the Crypto News Recap:  
Devin Finzer, co-founder and CEO of NFT marketplace OpenSea, talks all things non-fungible. Check out the whole show to hear Devin answer the following questions:   First Half: Breaking Down NFTs Why did he become so interested in NFTs ?  What is an NFT? Why have NFTs become so popular recently?  Who is creating NFTs? Who is purchasing NFTs?  Are we in an NFT bubble?  How is the NFT ecosystem going to evolve over the next few years?  What are people purchasing when they buy an NFT?    Second Half: OpenSea Q+A What is OpenSea?  How will OpenSea maintain its competitive advantage in the open-source blockchain ecosystem?  How does OpenSea make money?  Are artists making money on OpenSea?  How is OpenSea planning on integrating with layer 2 solutions on Ethereum and other blockchains?  How do royalties work on OpenSea? Why are they hard to enforce?  What can be done about content being minted on OpenSea without an artist’s permission?  What issues in the NFT world still need to be resolved?  How is OpenSea handling the environmental concerns surrounding NFTs?  What’s next for OpenSea?    Thank you to our sponsors! E&Y:  Kyber Network:   Episode Links   Basic Links Devin’s Twitter  OpenSea    Devin Finzer Content Podcast appearances  The NFT Bible Blockchain gaming (2018)    OpenSea Profiles Fortune CoinDesk 50 for 2020 (#47)  Recent announcements scaling solution w/ Immutable X (Mar 31)  A16z investment (Mar 18th)  updating terms of service (Mar 13)  taking down the hacker NFT (Mar 9) unlockable content (early March)  Tezos collab (Feb 10)  creating NFTs for free (Dec 29)  recent usage: 2018 investing round  Other Terms of service talk Stats
Robbie Ferguson, co-founder and president of Immutable, talks about how Immutable is transforming the NFT industry through its layer 2 solution, Immutable X, which just launched April 8. In this episode, he discusses:  what sort of problems Immutable is solving by creating a layer 2 solution (1:21) why scalability is especially an issue for NFTs in gaming (1:59) how Immutable X, built with partner Starkware, addresses the problems with scaling NFTs (3:28) how Immutable is scaling Ethereum and the definition of a layer 2 solution (5:46) the Immutable business model and how the company makes money (6:40) how validity proofs like ZK-rollups differ from fraud proofs like Optimistic rollups (7:52) how Gods Unchained has performed since the April 8th launch of Immutable X (8:27) why building on Ethereum is so important to Immutable (10:54) why Immutable is obsessed with bringing liquidity to NFTs (14:54) what sort of partners Immutable is looking to attract and how Immutable X is different from a traditional marketplace (18:00) why Immutable decided to purchase carbon credits to offset the gas the protocol consumes on Ethereum (21:33) what we might see from Gods Unchained, Immutable X, and NFT gaming in general by the end of this  year (23:32 ) weekly news recap (26:22)   Thank you to our sponsors!  InterPop:  NEAR:    Episode Links   Robbie Ferguson   Immutable Twitter:  Website for Immutable X  Layer 2  Gods Unchained Previous Unconfirmed interview:   Miscellaneous Links Hearthstone link  Carbon Credits  StarkWare relationship StarkWare’s recent Unchained appearance    Link to the Crypto News Recap:  
In a fun change of pace, I was interviewed by the On Deck Podcaster Fellowship about the origins of Unchained pod, how my background as a journalist prepared me for podcasting, and tips for aspiring creators. Episode highlights: why I believe the Unchained podcast has been successful and how my penchant for asking tough questions came about (1:48) how my background in journalism prepared me for hosting a podcast (6:35) how I choose guests for the show and how they feel about being asked difficult questions (9:10) why I feel my background in traditional media is so important (15:46) whether my podcast helped me land a book deal (20:35) the Unchained podcast origin story (26:37) how I’ve brought my sense of journalistic integrity and ethics to podcasting (33:56) the top tips for choosing a good podcast title (41:58) advice for aspiring podcasters on sifting through BS answers and warming up shy guests (48:19) who I look up to in the podcast space (53:25) what future creators and podcasters from underrepresented backgrounds can learn from my experience breaking into the world of finance and technology (57:33)   Thank you to our sponsors: E&Y:  Kyber Network:   Episode Links On Deck:    Laura Shin:    Unchained Podcast:
Gil Luria, director of research at D.A. Davidson, talks about Coinbase’s performance on its first day as a public company. In this episode, Gil discusses: the significance of Coinbase going public (1:05) why doing a direct listing was a risky move (1:31) why he revised his price target for COIN from $440 to $650 (3:17) how investing in COIN as a “pure play” crypto company compares to buying stock in companies like MicroStrategy and Square (5:06) why some people are disrupting Coinbase’s actual market cap (7:11) whether Coinbase can smooth out revenue over the long term and not be so correlated to the crypto markets themselves(10:45) what sort of statistics Gil is looking for in valuing Coinbase (13:08) why Gil thinks Coinbase can meet its goal of growing non-transaction revenue from 4% to 50% in five to ten years (15:32) how Coinbase could navigate the compression of fees that will occur as competition increases among exchanges (17:33) whether Coinbase’s stance as an apolitical company could affect the stock price in an era in which companies are getting involved in issues like voting rights (19:45) whether the Bitcoin price and COIN stock price will always be highly correlated (21:18) which other crypto companies are good candidates for going public as well (22:35) weekly news recap (24:03)   Thank you to our sponsors! Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:    Check out InterPop, a superteam redefining the future of NFTs and fandom!    Episode links:   Gil Luria Twitter profile:   Introducing Crypto’s Amazon Moment (written by Gil):  2013 Quote from Gil on Bitcoin: Previous Unchained Appearance:    Related Content Ellie Frost Blog: Tweet Thread on Market Cap Discrepancy w/ Comment From Jeff Dorman Forbes Coverage of Coinbase Direct Listing:  Brian Armstrong CNBC Interview on Transaction Fees:
In an interview I moderated at Real Vision’s “Crypto Gathering,” Peter L Brandt, veteran trader and publisher of the Factor Report, and Willy Woo, prominent on-chain Bitcoin analyst and author of the “The Bitcoin Forecast,” a market intelligence newsletter, discuss Bitcoin charts, trading, and how Bitcoin is evolving as an asset. They cover: why Peter believes that, with Bitcoin, we are watching history in the making and what a “parabolic advance” has to do with that belief (2:02) the differences in trading Bitcoin, which trades 24/7/365, in comparison to a normal asset -- like a stock or commodity (6:36 ) Willy’s price target for the top of this bull run (8:37) why Willy thinks there is a Bitcoin supply shock (12:12) the reason Peter does not think Bitcoin is a bubble (15:09) why Willy believes we are witnessing the birth of a new monetary system (17:23) the state of Bitcoin adoption and how fast adoption will grow (21:24) Peter’s crypto journey and why he measures wealth in Bitcoin instead of dollars (27:02 ) why Peter thinks we are prisoners of war to the fiat system and how Bitcoin fixes this (31:33) what sort of volatility both Peter and Willy expect going forward from Bitcoin (33:43) how Peter feels about the laser eyes trend on Crypto Twitter (39:35) tips for aspiring chartists and traders (41:33)   Thank you to our sponsors! Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:  Indexed Finance:  Kyber Network:   Episode Links   Willy Woo Twitter: Website:  Content Unchained podcast appearances Tweets  Peter L. Brandt Twitter Website:  Content Book Tweets BTC  Crypto  USD
Larry Cermak, director of research at The Block, discusses the upcoming Coinbase direct listing in light of the exchange’s recently released Q1 revenue hitting an impressive $1.8 billion. In this episode, Larry talks about: significant takeaways from Coinbase’s Q1 results (1:04) how Coinbase was able to increase its non-transaction revenue in Q1 and why he thinks the exchange gets away with charging higher fees than its competitors (4:14) why retail consumers are investing in crypto at such a high clip (8:36) how Coinbase compares to its competition -- and why competition will drive transaction fees down (11:23) whether it matters that Coinbase has so little Bitcoin on its balance sheet (14:52) what he still wants to know about Coinbase after its S-1 filing and Q1 results 15:36) products and services that Coinbase should acquire to round out its crypto offering (17:10) his expectations for Coinbase’s stock performance (17:50) why investors may not be interested in NFTs (19:37) how the crypto markets will perform in 2021 and how that might affect the COIN price (20:43) Crypto New Recap (22:40)    Thank you to our sponsors! Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:   Check out InterPop, a superteam redefining the future of NFTs and fandom!   Episode links:   Larry Cermak   Coinbase Q1 Results Coinbase Details  Larry Cermak Analysis  The Block John Street Capital   Direct Listing Information   Related Podcasts Gil Luria Jeff Roberts   Link to the Crypto News Recap:
Mark Cuban -- billionaire investor, owner of the Dallas Mavericks, and Shark Tank “shark” -- shares his thoughts on the Ethereum vs. BTC debate, issues with DeFi, and how NFTs could change content distribution. Tune in to hear Mark talk about... why ETH is a better store of value than BTC (1:08) why bitcoin as an inflation hedge is a bananas narrative 6:29) his opinion on EIP-1159 and the idea of proof of stake mining (9:06) why minting an NFT was a crypto-lightbulb moment for him (11:36) how his background in technology prepared him to invest in crypto (13:55) the main problem with the DeFi user experience and his advice for new DeFi users (16:34) what might happen to the centralized banking system if DeFi becomes the norm (20:46) how putting private data on a blockchain could work (25:53) why CBDC’s make “perfect sense” (32:11) how he evaluates decentralized business models and governance structures (41:13) his NFT investment thesis (47:09) who he believes will be the NFT winners in the long term (52:09) why Mavs tickets are a perfect example for how NFTs may be used in the future (54:55) industries that are ripe for NFT disruption (59:45) the many use cases for NFTs (1:01:48) why he is advising against minting social tokens (1:04:15)   Thank you to our sponsors!  Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:    Indexed Finance:    Kyber Network:   Episode Links   Mark Cuban Personal website: Twitter:    NFT Investment Mintable Esprezzo OpenSea  SuperRare Other   Other Links Defiant Podcast (“ETH Has An Advantage Over Bitcoin”) Why DeFi is the Future | Mark Cuban on the Bankless Podcast Mark Cuban: The Billionaire Crypto Degen on the Delphi Podcast NFTs as ticketing disruptor Bananas video (2:16-3:49)  CoinDesk interview
Dave Jevans, CEO of Cipher Trace, talks about what the new draft guidance from the FATF (Financial Action Task Force) means for DeFi, NFTs, and crypto in general. In this show, he breaks down: the six main areas the draft guidance covers, including the expansion of KYC regulatory standards into DeFi (1:07) how a dex like Uniswap would operate under the proposed draft guidance, and which types of companies or services providers would have to take identifying customer information (3:54) why DeFi applications might start requiring customers to create an account to use their platforms (7:03) how the crypto community has reacted to the FATF draft guidance (8:59) whether NFTs are affected by the proposed draft guidance (11:01) who the FATF recommendations apply to (13:54) how to reach out to FATF to comment on the draft guidance (15:32) the nuances of the travel rule and how DeFi developers may now be forced to include KYC mechanisms in their applications (17:29) how the crypto community would likely want to tweak the guidance to align the philosophy of DeFi (21:27) Crypto News Recap (23:42)    Thank you to our sponsors! Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:   Check out InterPop, a superteam redefining the future of NFTs and fandom!   Episode Links   Dave Jevans Twitter: Cipher Trace: Previous Unchained episode: FATF Website: Updated FATF draft guidance: Analysis of draft guidance: CoinDesk: Decrypt: Coin Center: Cipher Trace:  Miscellaneous Links Travel Rule: FinCEN:    Link to the Crypto News Recap:
Olta Andoni, fintech and IP Attorney at Zlatkin Wong and adjunct professor at Chicago Kent College of Law, Tonya Evans, visiting Full Professor of Law at Penn State Dickinson Law School and host of the podcast Tech Intersect, and Stuart Levi, co-head of the Intellectual Property and Technology practice at Skadden Arps and coordinator of the firm's Blockchain and Digital Asset practice, break down the legal issues surrounding NFTs. In this episode, they discuss: how the law looks at non-fungible tokens (1:25) why owning an NFT is different from owning the rights to the underlying asset making up the NFT (3:12) problems that blockchain solves for creators  (5:09) how corporations (aka content intermediaries) are handling NFTs (6:53) what rights the purchase of an NFT gives a buyer (11:51) derivative artwork, the fair use copyright law, moral rights, and how U.S. law views NFTs (15:53) how to determine the jurisdiction of an NFT (25:00) what type of legal recourse is available to artists whose art has been stolen and redistributed as an NFT (32:37) the differences in the terms of services between NFT marketplaces  (36:26) why the first sale doctrine may not apply to digital assets (43:16) what a buyer is getting when purchasing a blockchain license (46:12) how NFT creators should protect their work (51:43) whether a fractionalized NFT is a security (55:25) how NFTs will change the business of content creation (58:44)   Thank you to our sponsors!  Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:    Indexed Finance:    Episode Links   People Tonya Evans Twitter: Penn State Dickinson Law:  Relevant content:  Olta Andoni Twitter: Zlatkin Wong:  Relevant content:  Stuart Levi LinkedIn: Skadden:  Relevant content:    Legal Links Fair Use Doctrine:,teaching%2C%20scholarship%2C%20and%20research. First Sale Doctrine:,interests%20of%20the%20copyright%20owner Moral Rights: Digital Millennium Copyright Act  Visual Artists Rights Act    Miscellaneous Links Banksy Fractionalized NFTs Dapper Labs License  TechnoLlama Blog
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez talks about how Miami plans to be the crypto capital of the world. In this show, he discusses: what Miami is doing to become the crypto capital of the world (1:40) why he feels so strongly about bringing crypto to Miami (3:09) the relationship between cryptocurrencies and government (4:08) why he believes that, in the future, governments will transaction in crypto, not fiat currency (5:26) his feelings about the FTX sponsorship proposal and how he convinced city officials to move past crypto’s tumultuous past (6:51) whether city of Miami employees have expressed interest in being paid in bitcoin (10:06) what needs to happen for Miami to be able to hold BTC in its treasury (11:25) how Mayor Suarez balances his interest in Bitcoin against his interest in mitigating the effects of climate change on Miami (14:24) Crypto News Recap (18:00)   Thank you to our sponsors!  Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:   Check out InterPop, a superteam redefining the future of NTFs and fandom!   Episode Links:   Francis Suarez - Mayor of Miami Twitter:    Miami and Crypto  Overview New York Times: https://www.nytimes3xbfgragh.onion/2021/03/23/business/dealbook/miami-suarez-crypto.html  CNBC interview:  Forbes Coverage:  FTX Naming Rights Press Release:  The Block:  Bitcoin paying employees in BTC + investing treasury in BTC:   Link to the Crypto News Recap:  
Ric Edelman, founder of Edelman Financial Engines, and Matthew Kolesky, president at Arbor Capital, discuss the state of Bitcoin adoption amongst financial advisors, who control $5 trillion in investor wealth. In this episode, they talk about: their background and why they got into crypto (1:25) how most RIAs (registered investment advisors) view digital assets and the hassle of buying crypto on a client’s behalf (8:59) what percentage of financial advisors have already invested in bitcoin and how many more will come into the space by next year (18:20) how RIADAC -- the RIA Digital Assets Council -- is educating financial advisors about crypto (21:59) their favorite methods to explain Bitcoin and other digital assets (25:22) the different ways financial advisors are getting bitcoin/crypto exposure for their clients (35:32) why RIAs use investment vehicles to purchase Bitcoin rather than spot-buying the actual asset (39:58) why GBTC is trading at a deficit to the bitcoin price and their thoughts on a bitcoin ETF (44:40) the percent allocation to crypto they feel comfortable with for their clients (54:26) how they rebalance crypto holdings, whether they use yield-bearing crypto products yet, and projections for 2021 (57:35)   Thank you to our sponsors!  Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:    Indexed Finance:    Episode links: Ric Edelman Twitter: RIADAC:   Matt Kolesky Twitter:  Arbor Capital: +    Helpful Links: Bitwise ETF Trends + Survey of Financial Advisors Fidelity’s Bitcoin Investment Thesis  RIADAC’s 12 Predictions for 2021 RIADAC 1% Allocation strategy Arbor Capital’s “True Digital Asset SMA”  Grayscale BTC Premium Flips Negative Blockchange
MetaKovan, the pseudonymous buyer of Beeple’s Everydays NFT and founder of MetaPurse, talks about his recent $69 million purchase. In this episode, he discusses: why he bought Everydays: The First 5000 Days for $69 million (1:57) Beeple’s 13-year “proof of effort” process of creating art and why Beeple has the potential to become a generational artist (4:38) why he believes NFTs are “10x” better than physical art (9:40) his vision of the metaverse (13:57) the reasons for hiding his identity behind the Metakovan avatar (17:09) how he made his fortune in crypto and why he felt comfortable spending $69 million on something that might be a fad (19:12) why he started Metapurse and how its native B20 token works (24:31) crypto news recap (28:57)   Thank you to our sponsor! Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:    Episode Links   MetaKovan:   Metapurse:   Everydays: The First 5000 Days Purchase:    B20 Tokens:   Link to the Crypto News Recap:  
Jamie Burke, CEO of Outlier Ventures, and Mason Nystrom, a research analyst at Messari, discuss the NFT craze that has enveloped the crypto world over the past few weeks. In this episode, they talk about: their backgrounds, and how they became involved in crypto (1:19) the major catalysts -- specifically Beeple and NBA Top Shot -- that have brought NFTs into the mainstream (5:29) why NFTs are a “megatrend” and not just another ICO-like bubble (13:35) how to explain non-fungible tokens to normies (18:06) what someone is actually purchasing when they buy an NFT (24:46) the reasons behind NBA Top Shot's success and why it is so difficult to withdraw money from its platform (36:27) the best way to scale NFTs and why Ethereum, despite severe storage limitations, will most likely remain the most popular blockchain on which to mint NFTs (41:44) why the gaming, fashion, and music industries will be disrupted by NFTs (49:37) when the current subscription-based business model for content creators will transition to the ownership economy (55:10) the differences between the marketplaces and platforms that make up the NFT economy (57:06) whether NFT valuations will go to zero and the challenges of appraising digital art (1:03:39) their predictions for the market capitalization of NFTs by the end of 2021 (1:15:23)   Thank you to our sponsors!  Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:    Square:    Episode Links:    Jamie Burke Twitter:  Outlier Ventures:  Content: the open metaverse:  100xARt:  podcast:    Mason Nystrom Twitter:  Messari:  Content: NFTs as an investment strategy:  evolution of content:  psychology of crypto art collecting:  the current state of NFTs:    NFT Sales Mentioned Beeple:  Previous Unconfirmed interview with Beeple: Taco Bell:  3LAU:  Jack Dorsey Tweet:  Kings of Leon album:  NBA Top Shot:    NFT Guides New York Times:  DappRadar:  Andrew Steinwold:  Decrypt: CoinDesk:    Miscellaneous Links:  Chris Dixon blog:  NFT market cap:  Outlier Ventures decentralized accelerator program:  Top NFT marketplaces (DappRadar):  Jesse Walden’s “Ownership Economy”:  Flow blockchain:
Brendan McGill, co-founder of Offsetra and, a company focused on reducing carbon emissions, talks about the environmental impact of NFTs. In this episode, Brendan discusses: his career as an environmentalist and how his sites intersect with crypto (1:07) why online art platform ArtStation canceled its plans to create an NFT program (3:21) what the environmental impact of NFTs actually is and why minting and transacting with NFTs has a greater environmental impact than for normal Ethereum transactions (5:21) misconceptions surrounding the environmental impact of NFT minting and why he believes artists should not be blamed for the carbon footprint calculated by Offsetra (6:57) what accounts for the emissions in NFT transactions and why it’s hard to calculate the exact environmental impact of any specific NFT, and why minting NFTs doesn’t necessarily increase emissions (7:32)  why NFTs aren’t really responsible for the bulk of emissions from Ethereum and why Brendan thinks the backlash against NFT creators for the environmental impact is unfair (12:02) how Offsetra and attempt to calculate the amount of ‘clean’ energy vs. fossil fuels used in PoW mining and what assumptions they use (13:59) the methods (and blockchains) artists are using to create “clean NFTs” (16:17) Crypto New Recap (16:17)   Thank you to our sponsor!  Download the app and get $25 with the code “Laura”:   Episode links: Brendan McGill:   Offsetra:  website: Ethereum CO2 footprint calculator: methodology:    Reading Material: guide to ecofriendly NFTs fixing NFTs’ carbon pollution problem Other: statement from ArtStation   Link to the Crypto News Recap:
Antonio Juliano, founder of the decentralized exchange dYdX, and Eli Ben-Sasson, cofounder of StarkWare, discuss the recent launch of dYdX on Ethereum layer 2 using StarkWare’s scaling technology. In this episode, they cover: what cross-margin perpetual trading is and why dYdX chose StarkWare to be its scaling partner (1:13) ZK rollups and how they contrast with optimistic rollups (8:49) how many transactions per second StarkWare can handle through its layer 2 solution (16:57) lessons learned and critical takeaways from their six months spent working together (20:15) the similarities between Ethereum and StarkNet (26:07) why Antonio believes that scalability is more important than composability (27:30) the benefits of decentralized exchanges and how dYdX fits into the dex marketplace (31:54) why dYdX chose Chainlink as its oracle provider, and how it got oracle prices onto layer 2, which previously had none (38:11) why Cairo, StarkWare’s Turing-complete programming language and platform, can be the “one verifier to rule them all” (42:10) what it was like for StarkWare to compete in the Great Reddit Scaling Bake-Off (45:41) whether or not DeFi could handle a GameStop/Robinhood situation (48:56) fair launch tokens versus VC tokens (54:12) the likelihood of dYdX and StarkWare each creating a token (58:19) upcoming developments and projects for both companies (1:02:14)   Thank you to our sponsors!  Download the app here:   Square:   Episode Links: Antonio Juliano Twitter:  Eli Ben-Sasson Twitter:  dYdX Twitter: Website:  Exchange:  Reading Material Recent funding:  2020 in review:  Decrypt profile:  Medium post: StarkWare Twitter:  Website:  Reading Material: ZK roll-up explainer:  Understanding Cairo:  Funding: dYdX and StarkWare Relationship Original Twitter announcement (2020):  The Block’s original coverage:  Layer 2 is live announcement:  Blog post on why dYdX is moving to Layer 2 (2021):  CoinDesk’s coverage:    Other CoinDesk on Ethereum Layer 1 vs. Ethereum Layer 2: Roll-ups as throughput solutions: Vitalik on optimistic rollups vs. ZK-rollups: Antonio showing how dYdX works: Optimistic Rollup Dilemma (written by StarkWare) ChainLink Tweet on dYdX + StarkWare relationship:  The Great Reddit Scaling Bake-Off
Comments (29)

Tommy Lam

it answer some of my question on decentralization

Apr 21st

Andrew Paul Carter

Dick move bringing up that prop 8 stuff from 15 years ago.

Feb 10th

John Adderholdt

Awesome podcast. I've read whole books that were not as complete as your work here.

Dec 26th
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mr jj

great show wonderful history story.

Nov 14th


This was really hard to listen to. Please don't ever bring him back onto the show.

Oct 13th

Philip-Alexander Jach

fed economist = liar

Oct 8th


my opinion: for a better future, design to move as much as possible for real equal opportunity and anonymity, cut middlemen and gate keepers, give more to real workers and less to burucrats and owners, AI and robotics is coming, UBI, and if some people want to waste there own lifes doing nothing that's their own problem, no one should be forced to work if not necessary

Aug 21st

Philip-Alexander Jach

Fuck the IMF and fuck central banks. Crypto was made against, not for them.

Aug 14th


is this an interview or a date?

Jun 5th
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Jiasun Li

Unique takeaway: how to jump-starting a blockchain the Litecoin way.

Apr 30th

Lior Goldenberg

Great episode, very informative & help understanding the makerDao eco system! looking forward part2

Feb 4th

pablo creel

I would be great if you could do a podcast on Loyalty programs and blockchain. I topic you haven't talked that much in a high growing industry. Happy holidays

Dec 15th

Jomari Peterson

leveraging an opportunity zone fund can allow people to defer and eliminate their capital gain taxes “Don’t Worry About Capital Gain Taxes this Year.” by Jomari Peterson

Dec 4th

Rr Mathieu

ransom!? what facts are these statements based on? sounds like 2 old men who live in the past. terrible interview, very biased

Oct 30th

Matthew Lopez

Wow Barry's a bigger con artist than I thought

Oct 25th

Matthew Lopez


Oct 24th

Rr Mathieu

I am an investor in crypto. Most of which is in Bitcoin and some alts such as, XRP, 0X. In my opinion you are doing a fantastic job with your research and top notch interviews. Believe me they help. Keep up the good work Laura! Ron M.

Oct 17th

R. R.

Financial derivatives are the foundation/underlying cause of the 2008 financial crisis.

Oct 3rd


Wow, she says that she was trading totally on inside information. And they wonder why regulators are playing it safe on the sector.

Sep 21st

R. R.

Q: So Robert, what are you having for lunch tomorrow? A: That's a great question......

Sep 20th
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