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In our changing world, there are more ways than ever to do ministry. The Unconventional Ministry podcast brings you creative and innovative ways individuals do ministry and make a difference. A conversation about fresh ideas, innovative approaches, and collaborative efforts.
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In this episode of the Unconventional Ministry Podcast, host Dennis Wiens welcomes Fouad Masri, founder and global ambassador of the Crescent Project. Discover how the Crescent Project is dedicated to ensuring that every individual has the opportunity to respond to the Gospel and connect with a true follower of Jesus. With a focus on equipping believers to reach out to Muslim communities, the Crescent Project is expanding its mission globally, addressing the challenges and opportunities in the Middle East, Europe, and Latin America. Join us as we explore the transformative impact of this mission and how you can be a part of it. Please tune in to learn more about the Crescent Project's vision and the inspiring journey of its founder.
Previous episodes you will learn from:
Giving Principles and Strategies for Multiplying Impact with Dr. Jim Bakke EP#191
Money Is Spiritual with Heather Day EP#185
In this episode, host Dennis Wiens sits down with Becca Spradlin, author of Lead on Mission and a trusted voice in the global faith-at-work movement. Together, they discuss how Christian leaders can weave faith, values, and excellence into the marketplace in ways that endure beyond their own leadership.
Becca shares her personal journey and the vision behind Lead on Mission, celebrating the inspiring growth of the faith-at-work movement while also sounding a vital warning: without intentional planning, many organizations lose their Kingdom focus in just one leadership transition. Avoiding mission drift requires uncommon intentionality.
The conversation addresses the urgency of today’s moment. As baby boomers retire and a new generation of leaders takes the helm, organizations are facing a “values stress test.” Becca offers practical strategies for building companies that achieve operational and financial excellence while also fostering spiritual growth, discipleship, and a lasting witness of God’s love in the workplace.
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Most people know they should have a will… but more than half of Americans don’t. In this Unconventional Ministry episode, Dennis Wiens tackles one of the most overlooked yet life-changing acts of stewardship – estate planning.
Discover why creating a will is more than just legal paperwork; it’s an act of love, faith, and intentional stewardship that protects your family, prevents conflict, and leaves a lasting Kingdom impact. You’ll hear practical, biblically grounded reasons to start a plan now. Also, learn what happens if you don’t plan. Estate planning is one of the most powerful but underutilized planning tools.
Whether you’re just starting your adult life or enjoying retirement, this episode will give you the tools, inspiration, and biblical motivation to take action now, before it’s too late. Listen now and learn why doing your will honors God while protecting your family.
Resource mentioned in podcast episode:
Barnabas Foundation
Financial Planning Ministry
On this episode of Unconventional Ministry, host Dennis Wiens welcomes Randy Grimm, Interim Chief Development Officer at Calvary University, a school ranked in the top 30% nationwide for lowest student debt and in the top 3% of Christian universities. Randy shares how Calvary is redefining Christian higher education through an unwavering commitment to biblical truth, academic excellence, and debt-free graduation. Discover how Calvary University equips students for Kingdom impact while removing financial barriers through strategic donor partnerships and innovative funding models.
From the heart of the Midwest to global missions, Calvary is proving that faithful stewardship and forward-thinking Christian education can go hand-in-hand. Tune in to hear what makes Calvary’s approach to Christian education truly unconventional!
Enjoy this previous podcast episode: Giving Principles and Strategies for Multiplying Impact with Dr. Jim Bakke, Barnabas Foundation
In this episode of the Unconventional Ministry podcast, host Dennis Wiens welcomes Rawad and Marianne Daou, a dynamic couple serving with SAT-7 ARABIC in Beirut, Lebanon. Marianne, a longtime media presence and the Viewer Support Manager, shares how her early start as a child TV presenter eventually led her to minister to couples and families through media. Rawad, a veteran TV director with 25 years of experience, offers insight into the creative and spiritual impact of SAT-7's broadcasts across the Middle East and North Africa (MENA).
Together, they reflect on how God has used their musical talents as a powerful tool to communicate the Gospel, especially in children’s programming and worship ministries. Their decision to remain in Lebanon, despite the opportunity to leave, reveals their profound commitment to being a voice for the voiceless in the MENA region.
The episode also explores the life-changing role of SAT-7’s Viewer Support ministry. Marianne describes how her team, spread across four countries, responds to viewers with biblical care, connects them to counselors, and helps guide them into deeper faith through online discipleship and local church connections. With moving testimonies from Syria, Algeria, and beyond, Marianne and Rawad reveal how music, media, and authentic storytelling are transforming lives and multiplying faith across the Arab world.
Resources mentioned in podcast:
Rawad and Marianne's Apple Music Channel
Rawad and Marianne's YouTube Channel
Learn more about SAT-7's broadcast ministry
Welcome to the Unconventional Ministry Podcast, hosted by Dennis Wiens, where we explore innovative approaches to sharing the Gospel. In this episode, Dennis interviews Todd Michaels, the founder of the Story Stewardship Initiative. Todd makes a bold claim: that over 95% of believers will take their stories to the grave. He calls this “the greatest missed Kingdom opportunity of our time.” In a church culture saturated with sermons, promotions, and devotionals, he points to the quiet absence of something essential, the stories of ordinary believers, bearing witness to the extraordinary grace of God.
This episode challenges leaders to move beyond content creation to story cultivation, intentionally creating space where testimonies are not only celebrated but also stewarded. Through presence, prayer, and practice, Todd invites churches to equip believers to share their stories vulnerably and authentically, captured on video and shared online for Kingdom impact.
This conversation will awaken a new vision: a church where no story of God’s grace is wasted and every testimony becomes a tool for spiritual formation, community building, and digital outreach.
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Welcome to the Unconventional Ministry Podcast with host Dennis Wiens. In this thought-provoking episode I visit with Dr. Kent Haralson, author of The Martial Arts: A Christian Perspective and Philosophy, to tackle several surprising questions: Can Christians practice martial arts with a clear conscience? Can Martial Arts be a platform for ministry?
Dr. Haralson unpacks the three most common objections believers raise about martial arts and offers biblical, historical, and practical responses.
Does martial arts promote violence? Kent explains how proper training prevents violence by equipping individuals to de-escalate and manage conflict.
Isn’t martial arts rooted in Eastern mysticism? He addresses the spiritual history of some systems while clarifying that many modern styles are free from such influences—and that martial arts have diverse global origins.
Is self-defense biblical? Drawing from Scripture, Kent makes the case that the Bible not only permits but values the defense of oneself and others.
This episode challenges assumptions and invites believers to consider how physical discipline and spiritual conviction can work together in today’s world. Learn more at www.masterswarriors.org
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Enjoy this previous podcast episode: Closing the Special Needs Ministry Gap with Pastor Russ Ewell. While 99% of pastors and 97% of churchgoers say people with special needs are welcome in their churches, only 29% of churches have actual programs to support them. Why the disconnect?
Welcome to the Unconventional Ministry Podcast, hosted by Dennis Wiens of SAT-7 USA. In this episode, we explore eternal returns on investment through strategic philanthropy and biblical stewardship. Dennis is joined by Dr. Jim Bakke, President of the Barnabas Foundation, to discuss how Christians can effectively steward their resources for lasting kingdom impact.
Delve into practical strategies that balance reducing tax burdens with making meaningful charitable contributions, and learn how inviting God into your business or personal finances can transform outcomes. Gain insights into leveraging assets beyond cash gifts for greater impact, using tools like donor-advised funds to manage your giving effectively.
Whether you are a business owner or an individual seeking to enhance your philanthropic efforts, this episode offers valuable perspectives on maximizing the use of God-given resources for eternal significance. Don't miss the opportunity to unlock the potential within your stewardship journey.
To learn more about giving non-cash assets to make God’s love visible in the Middle East and North Africa, download a free copy of Gifts that Reduce Taxes – Stock, Real Estate, and Other Non-Cash Assets.
Join host Dennis Wiens on the Unconventional Ministry Podcast as he challenges the common perspective on ministry donations. Discover how SAT-7, a broadcast media ministry in the Middle East, offers a kingdom-focused return on investment, reaching millions in regions closed to traditional outreach. Through innovative broadcasting in Arabic, Farsi, and Turkish, SAT-7 breaks barriers and impacts lives by delivering the gospel where churches are often illegal, and Christian workers are banned.
This episode unpacks the powerful values of giving to SAT-7, highlighting transformative outcomes, sustainable ministry, and quantifiable reach. Learn how even modest donations can introduce the name of Jesus to new hearts, build a spiritual legacy, and support persecuted churches across the region. Explore actionable reasons for local churches to partner with SAT-7 and be part of a global movement that brings light to the darkest places without leaving home.
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Please tune in to a previous Unconventional Ministry episode with Dr. Paul Hoffman explaining AI, Human Flourishing, and Spiritual Discernment
Join host Dennis Wiens as he welcomes Joshua Whitehouse, the visionary behind Go Chatter Studios, on this episode of the Unconventional Ministry Podcast. Discover how Joshua transforms Bible stories into engaging Lego stop-motion animations designed to captivate viewers of all ages.
Learn about the creative journey from lockdown beginnings to a fully operational charity, producing short, vibrant animations that creatively convey the stories of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation.
Joshua shares the powerful vision behind Go Chatter Studio: using colorful plastic bricks to build something that lasts forever – lives transformed by the Gospel. Picture the parting of the Red Sea, the walls of Jericho falling, or the resurrection of Jesus – all told in a way that draws people in with joy and awe. This episode will remind you that no tool is too small, and no idea is too unconventional when it’s placed in the hands of the Master Builder. Be ready to see children’s ministry, digital evangelism, and even your next box of LEGOs with brand-new eyes.
In this episode of the Unconventional Ministry Podcast, host Dennis Wiens engages in an insightful conversation with Dr. James Davis, a global leader in Christian networking. Dr. Davis shares wisdom passed down from the legendary Sir Edmund Hillary, encouraging listeners to pursue unique ventures that break new ground and bring unparalleled satisfaction.
Listeners will discover the essence of the Great Commission as their personal 'Mount Everest,' and learn how to actively participate in fulfilling it through global synergy. Dr. Davis passionately discusses pivotal paradigm shifts necessary for the modern church, such as transitioning from competition to completion and fostering relational networks for a lasting global impact.
Whether you're a pastor, church leader, or someone sitting in the pews, this episode offers practical guidance on adopting new visionary paradigms to advance the global Church. Tune in to discover how you can make a difference in the world by tying relational knots and preparing for a new millennium of faith. Spoiler: it’s not about going viral – it’s about going eternal.
A resource Dr. Davis suggested for next steps is "How to Make Your Net Work Tying Relational Knots for Global Impact".
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Enjoy this previous podcast episode SAT-7 Ministry Strengthening Middle East Christianity with Rami Al-Halaseh. Rami elaborates on SAT-7's strategic role in bolstering the Christian presence in a region where many are seeking to emigrate to the West or Europe. Learn how the ministry is strengthening the very Christian existence of the Church in the Middle East. The SAT-7 ministry goes beyond television programs and social media content, working to meet needs holistically. It is one thing to tell people about the love of God; it's a whole different experience when SAT-7 goes out and builds bridges with the people on the ground.
In this episode of Unconventional Ministry, we welcome Dr. Paul Hoffman, co-author of AI Shepherd and Electric Sheep, to explore the crucial need for a biblical lens in the ethical use of artificial intelligence. As AI rapidly integrates into daily life, how do we ensure it promotes a biblical view of human flourishing rather than distorting God’s design? Dr. Hoffman unpacks AI’s role in transhumanism and the spiritual dangers of outsourcing too much of our moral and spiritual discernment to algorithms. Listen to a thought-provoking conversation on navigating AI with a biblical lens, wisdom, faith, and a commitment to biblical truth.
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Enjoy a previous podcast episode "Theology, Technology, and SAT-7" with Ray Heinen. Originally from Egypt, Ray shares his experiences of living across several Arab countries for over two decades before moving to the United States with his wife, Sue, in 2010. Being an early viewer of SAT-7’s broadcasts, Ray brings a unique perspective on how this satellite ministry has transformed lives across the Middle East, offering encouragement and hope to Christians and seekers alike in challenging contexts.
This episode explores how media isn’t just a tool, it’s a mission field. Guest Danielle Gudgal from Deidox shares how their innovative storytelling approach captures real moments of divine intervention and turns them into compelling, impactful narratives. From short films to immersive audio experiences, Deidox is pioneering a fresh way to bear witness, reaching hearts in places where traditional ministry might never go. Along the way, we uncover a powerful but often overlooked truth: a healthy partnership between local churches and Christian artists may be one of the most significant untapped resources in the Church today.
Their latest audio documentary series project reimagines storytelling through a collaborative symphony of artists and volunteers. Each episode is more than a story, it’s an encounter, woven together by a dozen creatives who bring raw, powerful testimonies to life. This isn’t just about hearing; it’s about experiencing the movement of God in a way that transcends screens and stages. Tune in and discover how you, too, can use storytelling as a tool for mission, and how churches and artists, working together, can amplify the message like never before. Visit to learn more.
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Please enjoy this previous podcast episode Unique Challenges Facing Holy Land Arab Churches with Rani Saba.
Money isn’t just practical – it’s spiritual. The way we handle our finances reflects the state of our hearts. In this episode of Unconventional Ministry, author Heather Day from Barnabas Foundation shares how surrendering our money to God leads to true financial wellness.
Too many people live in an endless cycle of financial stress, feeling trapped by anxiety, emptiness, and broken relationships caused by misplaced priorities. While worldly advice focuses on spending less, saving more, and working harder, these strategies alone won’t bring the peace and freedom we long for. True transformation happens from the inside out when we follow the Holy Spirit’s guidance in our finances.
Heather draws from her own journey of financial struggles and shares practical steps to align our money with God’s will. As the author of Money and Spirit: Surrendering Our Finances to the Work of the Holy Spirit, she brings a message of faith, hope, and renewal for those ready to break free from financial burdens and experience God’s provision.
Tune in for an inspiring conversation on replacing greed with generosity, anxiety with peace, and worldly tactics with God’s wisdom. Let’s pursue financial freedom – God’s way!
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Please tune in to a previous Unconventional Ministry episode with SAT-7 USA staff Ruth Thomas "Accountability, Transparency, and SAT-7." Learn how she transformed her career frustration into a pursuit of meaningful work serving in a leadership role with SAT-7 USA.
While 99% of pastors and 97% of churchgoers say people with special needs are welcome in their churches, only 29% of churches have actual programs to support them. Why the disconnect?
In this episode, we sit down with Russ Ewell, pastor of Bay Area Christian Church and founder of Digital Scribbler, to uncover the barriers that keep churches from truly including people with disabilities, and how to break them down. Russ and his wife have developed the Spiritual Resource Ministry Manual, a FREE step-by-step guide to help churches create an accessible and thriving ministry for those with special needs.
Join us for an eye-opening conversation about what it means to be a welcoming church and how your ministry can go beyond good intentions to make a real impact.
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Please tune in to a previous Unconventional Ministry episode with SAT-7 USA staff member Ray Heinen, the Senior Director of Ministry Partnership, to explore his inspiring journey of faith and service. Listen to Theology, Technology, and SAT-7 with Ray.
Are you ready to transform the way you think about fundraising? In this episode of Unconventional Ministry, we welcome Rebekah Basinger, co-author of Growing Givers' Hearts, to share how faith-based organizations can turn fundraising into a powerful ministry. Whether you're a development professional, pastor, executive, or board member, you'll discover how to make faith-building opportunities for donors your first priority. Rebekah’s insights will challenge you to move beyond transactional giving and embrace a biblical vision of generosity that strengthens both ministries and the hearts of those who support them.
Don’t miss this inspiring conversation that will shift your perspective on fundraising and equip you to engage donors in a way that deepens their faith. If you’ve ever struggled with asking for support or wondered how giving can be a spiritual act of worship, this episode is for you! Tune in to learn how to cultivate a joyful, generous culture that fuels Kingdom work and transforms lives.
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Tune in to a previous Unconventional Ministry episode with SAT-7 USA staff member Andrea Harrison, the Donor Relations Coordinator and Accounting Assistant at SAT-7. She shares insights from over 20 years of serving as the "voice of SAT-7." Listen now to "Phone Calls, Sticky Notes, and SAT-7" with Andrea Harrison (S5 EP#175).
In this episode, Dr. Jared Looney, founder of Global City Mission and author of Crossroads of the Nations, joins us. Dr. Looney shares about an invaluable workshop designed to equip local churches to engage their diverse communities through meaningful, Spirit-led conversations. With a focus on cross-cultural ministry, disciple-making, and the power of everyday dialogue, this workshop offers practical tools to help churches connect with their neighbors in impactful ways. Discover how your church can be a catalyst for transformation, one conversation at a time.
Global City Mission works through cities and relationships developed in urban-global centers, leading to ministry opportunities in rural or other settings. The Gospel has always traveled on the wings of relationships, and working in global cities opens the possibility for a reach beyond boundaries. Global City Mission offers equipping in healthy, conversational outreach to help churches mobilize their members.
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Tune into a previous Unconventional Ministry podcast episode with SAT-7 USA staff member Brian Nelson as he shares how God prepared him years ago for his current ministry responsibilities. Listen to "Radio Host, NASCAR, and SAT-7" with Brian Nelson EP#174
In this episode, we explore how Ruth Thomas, SAT-7 USA VP for Finance and Administration, transformed her career frustration into a pursuit of meaningful work. Now serving in a leadership role with SAT-7 USA, Ruth shares her passion for excellence, accountability, and transparency, which she sees as vital for building trust and support among ministry partners. She reflects on her journey of aligning her professional life with her personal values and her mission to create a greater impact through the work she leads.
Ruth discusses her commitment to ensuring SAT-7’s operational efficiency, highlighting how 82% of the ministry’s total operating expenses are directly invested in programs that reach women, children, families, and seekers across the Middle East and North Africa. Additionally, Ruth emphasizes the growing importance of stock gifts in sustaining SAT-7’s mission, noting their unique value in helping donors maximize their giving potential while supporting life-changing programs. Through these initiatives, Ruth strives to balance low overhead costs with high-impact results, providing a model of stewardship that inspires others to do the same. Tune in to hear Ruth’s insights on leadership, transparency, and creating meaningful change in ministry.
Learn more about planned gifts that are powerful ways to give and reach more people with God’s love.
In this episode, we explore the inspiring journey of Becky Lucas, Senior Development Director at SAT-7 USA, sharing her calling to make a difference in some of the world's most challenging places. Becky shares how her career began with an international aid agency supporting persecuted Christians, eventually leading her to the world of Christian publishing. However, her heart for the Middle East and the unique testimonies of women impacted by SAT-7's programming ultimately drew her to join this impactful ministry. Becky’s story is a testament to how God’s calling can weave together diverse experiences into a powerful mission for His glory.
Becky was particularly moved hearing a testimony from a Middle Eastern woman who shared that “SAT-7 programs are the breath of life!” In a region where hope is often hard to find, SAT-7 brings the light of Christ into homes and hearts. Becky reflects on how hearing these stories set her faith on fire, motivating her to serve alongside a ministry reaching millions across the Middle East and North Africa. Join us for a conversation highlighting the incredible ways God works through media to transform lives and bring hope to the persecuted and marginalized.
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In this episode of Unconventional Ministry, we are joined by Dr. Rex Rogers, President of SAT-7 USA, a groundbreaking international nonprofit media ministry broadcasting hope and the Gospel across the Middle East and North Africa. With over 34 years of academic experience, Dr. Rogers shares his journey from the halls of higher education to the frontlines of faith-based media outreach. Discover the unique vision and calling that led him to step into leadership at SAT-7, a ministry leveraging technology to deliver Christ-centered programming in some of the world's most challenging environments.
Dr. Rogers reflects on the spiritual needs of the region and how SAT-7’s innovative media strategies make an eternal impact in communities longing for truth and transformation. If you’re passionate about spreading the Gospel and curious about how media can reach beyond barriers, this conversation will inspire and inform your faith journey.
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