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Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted fanbase. Phish's quirky sense of humor pervades and steers the podcast. Tom will interview the band, fans, insiders, outsiders...and dare to go UNDER THE SCALES to uncover the beating heart of Phish!
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055:Scott Aukerman

055:Scott Aukerman

2019-09-0901:14:571

From 2011 to 2014 there was an amazing Phish podcast called Analyze Phish hosted by Scott Aukerman and Harris Wittels. Once it ended, Tom Marshall, saw an opportunity for another Phish podcast and launched Under the Scales in 2016. In this episode, Tom interviews one of the Analyze Phish hosts, Scott Aukerman. This episode contains clips from the Analyze Phish podcast:https://www.earwolf.com/episode/a-different-angle/https://www.earwolf.com/episode/phish-live-in-ny/Special thanks to Scott Aukerman, RJ Bee and Earwolf’s friendly staff.Thanks to producers Nick Ruffini and Kirsten Cluthe of RevoiceMedia.com.
Under the Scales is proud to preview a full episode from Osiris' newest podcast, The Tapes Archive. This one features an interview with Trey Anastasio from 1993 -- a key moment in Phish's growth and transition to a national act.Subscribe here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tapes-archive/id1477111579Check out: https://www.thetapesarchive.comProduced and engineered by: revoicemedia.com
054:Waterwheel

054:Waterwheel

2019-07-2200:59:12

Phish's charitable arm, the Waterwheel Foundation, is discussed by the founders: Beth Montouri Rowles, Matthew Beck and Henry Schwab.Produced by RevoiceMedia.com
Tom speaks with Brando Rich of CashOrTrade.org. Platinum tickets, hoarding, scalping and more are discussed, and how new technology is helping to get face-value tickets into fan’s hands. The ticket secondary market is examined. Buyers often face steep markups, but there are new methods being employed to get more face-value tickets to fans. Produced by revoicemedia.com.
052:Lyrics Reprise

052:Lyrics Reprise

2019-05-2701:49:40

The lyrics for 5 popular Phish songs are examined lovingly by the Under the Scales forensic team. Scents & Subtle Sounds, Walls of the Cave, Joy, Steam and Pebbles & Marbles are all on the table. Is there a nod to David Bowie in Joy? Is there a very valuable Walls of the Cave T-Shirt about to hit the auction block? Did Tom's dad accidentally steer him off the electrical engineering track and into rock lyrics? Did Tom's voice slip unnoticed onto an actual Phish album? Was Steam composed on an iPad? Did a Walls of the Cave prank sow the seeds for Kasvot Vaxt? YES is the likely answer to all the above. Only one way to get the details...jump in to UTS Episode 52: LYRICS REPRISE!
051:Deep Dive into Lyrics

051:Deep Dive into Lyrics

2019-04-2801:09:33

In this episode, Tom dives into the meaning of five popular Phish songs, chosen by co-hosts Tebo Thomas and RJ Bee: Wading in the Velvet Sea, Blaze On, Horn, Bug and Life Boy.
050:Kevin Statesir

050:Kevin Statesir

2019-03-2501:05:20

Kevin Statesir, Trey’s brother-in-law and founder of the Burlington Vermont music venue Higher Ground, joins Tom in the studio to discuss Phish from a family perspective, and also how Higher Ground has become an integral piece in the Vermont music puzzle these days. Kevin’s long history in the music biz includes brushes with John Lennon and Keith Richards. Kevin also discusses Trey’s efforts to help with the hurricane-ravaged island of Tortola, Please check out http://trey.com/tortola-relief/ to learn more.
049:Mike Gordon Part 2

049:Mike Gordon Part 2

2019-02-1801:08:13

A sampling of Mike’s music accompanies further discussion about the creative process. Mike’s solo projects are covered, and songs highlighted. Mike’s motives for each subsequent project seems to change as his collaborations with admirable artists continues to abound. However, Scott Murawski emerges as possibly Mike’s longest collaborator. Mike discusses his extensive journals he keeps about his playing, and gives us a glimpse into these as he shares the best jams from previous tours. Mike turns the mic around and interviews Tom about songwriting with a few insightful questions.
048:Mike Gordon Part 1

048:Mike Gordon Part 1

2019-02-1101:02:50

Mike Gordon joins Tom for the Under the Scales Season 3 opener. This is Part 1 of 2. Mike is a bass player, bandleader, consummate collaborator, songwriter, inventor. Mike speaks on the metaphysics of groove. See where this is going? WAS MIKE ALMOST IN THE WHO??Crazy how many topics we covered, couldn’t get it done in one hour, so enjoy part 1 of the interview now, part 2 coming at you next Monday!
For the Season 2 closer of Under the Scales, Mockingbird member Scott Marks - also known as @bizarchive - helps Tom rank the best New Years shows in the Phish 3.0 era.
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