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Undermine is the definitive Phish podcast. The first season will focus on Phish’s genesis in the 1980s—through deep-dives into the music, shows and songs; interviews with people who were there for the early years; and discussion about the lasting impact of these foundational years. Undermine is a combination of Under the Scales, Helping Friendly Podcast and Beyond the Pond. Presented by Osiris Media.


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000:Let's Take a Ride

000:Let's Take a Ride

2016-11-0718:50

My producer, Mark Dowd, and I take a ride through Trey's and my old grade-school, and discuss some history and motivation behind the Under the Scales podcast. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
In 1997, Trey and I escaped for long weekends to write a lot of songs which eventually appeared on Phish albums and became part of Phish's live repertoire. This is the story of one of those weekends, and how it got off to a *horrifying* start. Trey listened to this and said "it's like the secret backstory for the song Twist" -- and it really is. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
002:Riding the Rail

002:Riding the Rail

2016-11-0743:02

Derek Gregory joins me in the studio to discuss his extensive experience with Phish...he likes it up close to the band. Real close. I try to figure out the hows and whys of "riding the rail" as it's called. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
003:Tapers

003:Tapers

2016-11-1454:12

Co-hosts RJ and Jonathan and I take a DEEP DIVE into Tapers. Tapers are a huge part of Phish's history...but what are they? Who are they? Let's find out. Take a deep breath and jump in with us. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
004:Timer

004:Timer

2016-11-2158:03

I interview David Steinberg, long-time Phish fan and the band's unofficial statistician. He's an author and extreme long-distance touring expert. He also times shows...and has the scars to prove it. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
005:PhantasyTour

005:PhantasyTour

2016-12-0555:101

Paul Glace, founder of PhantasyTour.com, is featured. We discuss the site's origins and how it grew to the incredible Phish fan destination it is today. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
006:Setlist Tees

006:Setlist Tees

2016-12-1236:01

Ryan Stanley joins me in the studio to discuss his T-shirt business, Amfibian, a movie and other stuff. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
007:Dude of Life

007:Dude of Life

2016-12-1901:01:49

Steve Pollak, also known as THE DUDE OF LIFE, talks to me about the early days with Trey in Taft and brings us up to the present musically. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
008:Flotation

008:Flotation

2017-01-0240:08

Tom Bazis is my guide into the infinite...his business is flotation and sensory deprivation and pure relaxation. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
009:Higher Thymes

009:Higher Thymes

2017-01-0951:34

Jen Bernstein stops by to educate me about WEED. Yes, she does. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
010:McLovins

010:McLovins

2017-01-1650:31

Jake Huffman catches me up on the McLovins. Remember the YEM video from 2008 when they were 14 years old?? YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
011:TreyGuitars1

011:TreyGuitars1

2017-02-0601:00:07

Trey Anastasio shares years of guitar insights with me and Dan Kanter. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
012:TreyGuitars2

012:TreyGuitars2

2017-02-1349:081

Trey Anastasio explains the magic of Paul Languedoc's guitars to me and Dan Kanter.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
013:Runaway Gin

013:Runaway Gin

2017-02-2051:03

RJ and I talk to Andy Greenberg, guitarist for Phish cover-band Runaway Gin. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
014:RELIX

014:RELIX

2017-03-0649:11

Mike Greenhaus gives us an amazing perspective on how Relix magazine has been involved in and crucial to the jam scene since its inception. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
015:Phish Companion

015:Phish Companion

2017-03-1345:35

I speak with Phillip Zerbo, co-editor for the incredible Phish Companion Volume 3. Can 30 years fit into 900 pages? YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
016:PhanArt

016:PhanArt

2017-03-2043:34

Phan Art Pete (Mason) created a vibrant art enterprise which has grown beyond the Phish community where it started. And that's just ONE thing he's doing...  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
017:Benjy Eisen Part 1

017:Benjy Eisen Part 1

2017-04-0348:48

Benjy Eisen talks about the wonderful book, Deal, he co-wrote with Bill Kreutzmann of the Grateful Dead. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
018:Benjy Eisen 2

018:Benjy Eisen 2

2017-04-1001:01:54

The second half of the Benjy Eisen interview in which we cover Phish and Reed Mathis...oh, and life and lyrics. YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
019:Holly Bowling 1

019:Holly Bowling 1

2017-04-1749:14

Holly Bowling stops by the studio to educate us musically -- my piano has never sounded better! YouTube version of this podcast.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
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