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Author: Garry Turner

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This is Value through Vulnerability, a human-centered podcast from The Listening Organisation, dedicated to helping put the human back into humanity.

We share ideas, opinion & challenges around courage, self-awareness, vulnerability, inclusivity, listening, trust, values, mindset & more.

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109 Episodes
I absolutely loved this conversation with Heather who shared rich context as to why she is as driven as she is to ensure everyone has a voice, especially those that are inadvertently silenced.We have a wide-ranging and flowing conversation that touches on vulnerability, awareness, mindset, adversity, leadership and so much more.Heather's TEDx talk can be found here -> can be contacted via the following means:LinkedIn - - Younger is the best-selling author, international TEDx speaker on adversity, podcast host on leadership, facilitator and coach, she has earned her reputation as “The Employee Whisperer”. Her experiences as a CEO, entrepreneur, manager, attorney, writer, coach, listener, speaker, collaborator and mother all lend themselves to a laser-focused clarity into what makes employees of organizations and companies – large and small - tick.Heather has facilitated more than 150 communication style and leadership workshops, reaching +100 employers and their employees. Her motivation and philosophy have reached more than 20,000 attendees at her speaking engagements on large and small stages. Companies have charted their future course based on her leading more than 100 focus groups. In addition, she has helped companies see double-digit employee engagement score increases through implementation of her laws and philosophies. She has driven results in a multitude of industries, including banking, oil & gas, construction, energy, and federal and local government.Her book “The 7 Intuitive Laws of Employee Loyalty” hit Forbes Must-Read list and is a go-to source for HR professionals seeking insight into their organization’s’ dynamics. Heather serves on the Board of Directors for Mile High SHRM in Denver, Colorado.Coupled with her Leadership with Heart podcast, weekly videos and employer newsletters, Heather stays connected to organizations long after she leaves the stage or conference room.Today, Heather hopes to empower and inspire you to change the experiences for your employees, your customers, and your community.--- Send in a voice message:
This was a simply sensational conversation that meandered through mindset, trust, vulnerability, mental health, culture and so much more.I especially loved being able to talk to someone that is both deeply academic AND fully awake spiritually, it made for an amazing conversation.Bart can be contacted via the following means:Website – – - Hof Method website - am Bart Scholtissen: Back To Your Nature Coach, Wim Hof Method Academy Instructor, Soul Scientist, Speaker.My specific expertise is guiding change and transformation on each level in individuals or teams.Once trained as a PhD. in Neuropsychology, now passionately engaged in balancing ‘evidence based’ with ‘experience based’ with the mission to bring people closer to their own nature and make this world a more balanced and beautiful place. I left the academic world and started my own business to create a live that aligns best with my mission.I love to work outdoors in nature. To me this is the best place to create a better inward and outward connection, and with that help people in the proces of taking back control over their own life, and living it in an open and successful way.Feeling thankful to be able to live in the now, learn new things every day, and meet and inspire beautiful people along the way.--- Send in a voice message:
I absolutely loved this conversation with Amanda, despite us having a battle with wifi throughout :-)  We covered do much including creativity, story-telling, self-worth, relationships, vulnerability, awareness and much more. Email - amanda@truetointention.comWeb- Message Matrix program is recommended if people are interested in getting their stories out.Amanda's programme 'Character to Co-Author' is for people who wish to heal their story.Bio:As a Personal Brand Strategist and Messenger Guide, Amanda Johnson helps aspiring speakers, authors, and coaches craft their message, expertise, and stories for maximum impact on their audience, their brand, and their bottom line AND heal their st*ries and lives in the process. After years of engaging, clarifying, and helping others develop powerful messages [as a Student, Teacher, and Master Writing Coach], Amanda uncovered her own. The decision to share it launched her on a journey of personal and professional transformation that quickly made her limited life unrecognizable. In her bestselling books Upside-Down Mommy and Upside-Down Messenger, Amanda shares The Butterfly Approach philosophy responsible for her successes as a parent, messenger, and coach.--- Send in a voice message:
Today was another wonderfully engaging, varied and inspiring conversation, this time with Steve Keith, founder of The Branding Man.We discussed inclusion, culture, vulnerability and young people at depth, whilst also meandering into mental health, listening, curiosity and so much more.Steve can be contacted via the following means:Web - - - it comes to supporting young people in their transition from education into the world work we are failing to use inclusive strategies which help them to better understand their future career options. I work with student employers to create inclusive brand campaigns and experiences that help young people to access the world of work, using the power of storytelling. I am also the host of the My Career Story podcast, a weekly insight into the many career stories that have shaped the people behind them. Find out more at or search for @thebrandingman across all social media channels.--- Send in a voice message:
I absolutely LOVED this conversation with John who has such a diverse background in distressed debt and finance, but now mentors tens of new startups.We cover a range of topics, directly and indirectly, including leadership, innovation, mindset, community, mission, inclusion, diversity, awareness, mentoring and lots more.The charity that John supports via his crazy marathon's and Ultras includes -> can be contacted via the following means:LinkedIn - - Board Member, Mentor and Advisor with a demonstrated history of working in the internet industry. Skilled in Leveraged Finance, Distressed Debt, Healthcare, Structured Finance, Investment Management, and Hedge Funds. Strong business development professional with a Bachelor of Arts (BA) focused in Economics and Organizational Behavioral Management from Brown University.--- Send in a voice message:
I really loved this conversation with Joey who is one of the most matter of fact, inspiring and congruent people I know in the HR leadership space.We discuss current and future challenges & opportunities of HR leveraging their unique position, whilst meandering into Joey's early life influences,  leadership, vulnerability, empathy, trust, mindset and lots more.The event that Joey will be speaking at this week can be found here include Joey's podcast with Cecile of Ultimate Software that he referenced: can be contacted via the following means:Website - - - Price is an award-winning Human Resources executive, business coach, thought leader, and professor. He is the founder of Jumpstart:HR, LLC, an HR Consulting Practice specifically for small businesses and startups, and host of Business, Life, and Coffee, a weekly personal and professional development podcast. As the CEO of Jumpstart:HR, LLC, Joey innovates by creating HR solutions for small business owners and start-up founders who want to build better, more competitive businesses. As a podcaster on the Business, Life, and Coffee show, Joey shares carefully curated conversations on personal finance, psychology, professional development, and business for emerging professionals and business owners alike. BLC is a podcast focused on enhancing the quality of your business and life through relevant content that endures over time. Joey is a recent HR Executive Magazine Top 100 HR Tech Influencer, SHRM Top 30 Under 30 award winner, one of Forbes Magazine's Kevin Kruse's Top 100 Employee Engagement Experts in the World, and frequently cited HR and Startup Thought Leader in publications such as Forbes, HR Magazine, Inc., Businessweek, AMEX Open Forum, Money Magazine, and more.--- Send in a voice message:
I absolutely loved this conversation with Olga who blends a wonderful mix of deep experience in neuroscience and a deep passion for developing love-based cultures.Olga offers a wonderful description of vulnerability, we go deep into emotion, fear, self-awareness, mindset, loyalty, purpose and just so much more.  I learned so much from Olga during this discussion and I am confident you will also.Olga can be contacted via the following means:LinkedIn - - - LOVE people. I believe we are walking miracles and as such we all possess our own special gifts. I also believe that it is our responsibility, to share those gifts with the world. That is how we repay to the universe the investment it made in our creation. It’s the Law of Economics at its core as Napoleon Hill stresses in his book Think and Grow Rich written in 1937 - “you don’t get something for nothing.”I believe that an organization is a group of people that come together bringing their unique gifts to solve a job to be done with the world. Only when everyone in the organization can bring his/her unique gifts to the table in a wholeheartedly way, while allowing others to do the same, will that organization solve that job to be done as a synchronized symphony - creating its own unique melody for others to receive. Because the universe provides us with the perfect vessels that carry those unique gifts, we owe it, to create this melody as MUCH as possible and share it with as MANY others as we can in the BEST way we know possible. That is our responsibility as an organization and since we cannot get something for nothing, if we do NOT comply, the universe will come back to collect in the form of dissatisfied customers, poor service reviews, profit losses, inability to remain competitive, poor employee morale and eventually the end of its relevance and existence.--- Send in a voice message:
I really enjoyed learning about Nuria's unique gifts of blending her engineering expertise and a deep passion around rehumanising work.Nuria covered so much ground in a super accessible way including hitting all the key elements of this podcast such as vulnerability, leadership, mindset, inclusion, courage, and awareness whilst speaking to leadership, culture, systemic shifts, #HumansFirst, personalisation of work and service and so much more - just a fantastic conversation.Nuria's Hacking HR event in Zurich takes place on Oct 24th with tickets available here -> Ignite Conference that she kindly connected myself and others to is taking place across 23-24th Oct in St Gallen with tickets available here -> can be contacted via the following means:LinkedIn - - am helping companies to transform to healthy, high-performance and sustainable cultures and organizations, where everything and everyone counts and influences each other, where purpose, transparency and trust has an impact, where people are motivated to learn, to grow, to make the best out of themselves, where technology is helping to thrive, where leaders are serving and caring for their teams, so that companies can give their best to customers, to steak holders and to society.I am passionate about technology, about the future of work and about how to transform workplaces where people find a meaning in what they do and can successfully evolve and adapt to the new needs of the fast-changing world. Because when people in the organization win, customers win and the company wins.--- Send in a voice message:
I really enjoyed going deep into a conversation around values with Christine today.Christine truly has a wonderful grace and presence and was an absolute joy to talk to.  We had a diverse conversation touching on core values, leadership, culture, self-talk, being good enough and she offered some great ideas and insights to live a more values-aligned life.Christine can be contacted via the following means:Twitter - - -'s book Values-Based can be found here -> Locher is a coach, author and leadership consultant, working with individuals and organizations to bring about positive change by helping them tap into their values and then making real changes based on this. Basically, a way to go deep that is workable in a business setting without scaring people off, and then making it practical so things start moving in the right direction. She is a London-based cosmopolitan, Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts and the Learning and Performance Institute, experience on the corporate side and with startups. Avid reader, craft beer fan, traveler and crazy curious. Lots of work in tech, and unapologetically #TeamHuman--- Send in a voice message:
I was grateful and inspired to spend 40 minutes with Neil Mullarkey during this podcast.I have watched Neil in action in the past, however back then 5-6 years ago, I was not myself 'awake' to the importance of our deepest, innate humanity.  Neil uses his expertise in Improv to help organisations step back into their innate creative and innovative selves, whilst having some fun along the way.We discussed a range of topics including vulnerability, leadership, listening, body language, presence, thinking, learning and so much more.Neil can be contacted via the following means:Website - - - Steps Book - keynote speaker, coach and author. Creativity, Collaboration, Communication.--- Send in a voice message:
I just loved this conversation with Oleg who has dealt with his own range of challenges as he grew up to become the motivator and agent for positive change that he now is via his work and live events.We had a wonderfully rich and deep conversation around beliefs, vulnerability, awareness, mindset, belonging, courage, curiosity and so much more.Oleg's upcoming events include 'The Courage to be You' which is just one of the best names of an event I have heard and I would ask that you check this and his other events out. can be contacted via the following means:Website -  - - - connect@overcomingodds.todayBio:His start in life was inauspicious. At 9 years old, he relinquished his parents' rights and entered the Russian orphanage. At 12 years old, he decided to be adopted into a new family, in a new country, halfway across the world, to start a new life. At 24 years old, he began his journey of helping others live the life they have always dreamed of, despite their hardships and misfortunes by allowing them to recognize the uniqueness and worth within their own story.--- Send in a voice message:
I really enjoyed this deeply insightful and diverse conversation with Eleanor Snare who has the wonderfully affectionate title of Business Witch who focuses on Getting Artists and Writers Organised with mindset coaching, operations advice + marketing expertise.Eleanor's insight, however, crosses every profession and every human being for me.  She shares what vulnerability means to her;  we discuss the power of intuition, non-violent communication, awareness, courage, emotions, leadership and so much more.Eleanor can be contacted via the following means:Email - hello@eleanorsnare.comWebsite - - - described what I do as 'art counselling'. Someone else said it's 'sparkly PRINCE 2'.It's a mixture of coaching, mentoring, consultancy and educational techniques. It's bringing you ideas from years of marketing and communication experience. It's having someone who gives a shit about you, your work and believes creativity is going to be what saves our world.My goal is to help you feel confident and organised so that you can get on with developing and sharing your creative gifts.What holds creative people back is not a lack of Instagram skills, networking nerves, procrastination over blog posts or any of that fiddling nonsense.It's their level of self-belief.We've been encouraged to think creativity isn't 'useful' to the world.Bullshit. It's crucial. It's essential. It's what this is all FOR.So I tend to work with the people I think are going to change the world: artists, writers, makers and creative folk who feel frustrated, unhappy, confused and want someone to support them in making their dreams a reality.I generally work with them one-to-one for about six to twelve weeks, as this gives them the accountability they need as well as ensuring they see the big changes they really want to see.(Although they tend to see changes immediately after the first session, and I do one-off sessions too).Creativity is why we are here. It's what brings vibrancy to life. Otherwise, it's all bank balances and salad.I want to help more creative people get more of their gifts out into the world so we can change it for the better.--- Send in a voice message:
This was a wonderful conversation with Gethin, the 2nd time he has joined the podcast after being part of the #selfcareweek 10 x 15 mins podcast series back in Nov 2018 - a summary an be found here ->   Gethin and I had a great discussion around leadership, wellbeing, vulnerability, love and lots more. Gethin can be contacted via the following means: Twitter - -  Website -'s book -  A psych grad and guest lecturer who has worked in HR Tech for almost 20 years. I'm a frequent speaker and writer on the subjects of global employee engagement, HR, the employee experience, employee benefits and financial well-being.  As well as the most well known HR and People Management magazines, I have been published in The Financial Times, The Huffington Post and The Guardian. I’m also the author of the 5 star rated, award-winning and Amazon bestselling book ‘A World of Good: Lessons From Around the World in Improving the Employee Experience’.  *Listed as an EEA 101 Global Employee Engagement Influencer* *Listed as a Global Employee Experience expert by Bonfyre*  *Listed on 'The Human Impact’ Global Employee Engagement Power list*  *Founder member of the Engage for Success Wellbeing Thought Action Group*  *Winner of Lotus Award for Culture* *Investor in Age Wage* Working across 3 FTSE 250 companies and a few tech startups, I have experience in developing and bringing new EX and Wellbeing tech products to market and a strong track record in b2b partnerships. I have generated growth through partners including Barclays, Lockton, EY, PwC and SAP. I have assisted many organisations with their employee engagement, experience, wellbeing and benefit strategies including ASOS, Bamk of America, Coca Cola, BT, MITIE, Bank of England, John Lewis, British American Tobacco, Orange, M&S, EasyJet, Nestle, Tesco, the NHS and O2.  --- Send in a voice message:
I absolutely loved this conversation with freelance social change maker Mary Freer.We discussed at depth vulnerability, courage, awareness, compassion, leadership and lots more.Her live event, Compassion Revolution Conference, takes place across 10th and 11th Sept 2019 - You can still gets tickets here -> can be contacted via the following means:Twitter - -'m activating a Compassion Revolution in health and aged care - join me http://compassionrevolution.careIn 2016 Mary launched Compassion Lab, a space where leaders can practice together to uncover compassion in their organisations, their teams, and themselves. The link between innovation, creativity, workplace safety and compassion is now well researched - Mary's work unpacks what this means for individuals.Mary is a Westpac Bicentennial Social Change Fellow, a Member of the Australian Compassion Council, a TEDx speaker and a Coach at Seth Godin’s AltMBA. Mary is regularly sought after as a keynote speaker, executive coach and advisor on cultural change and compassionate leadership.--- Send in a voice message:
I really enjoyed this conversation with leadership consultant and middle manager advocate Renata Porter.I had the pleasure of meeting Renata via the #HumansFirst movement a few months ago and since then have really enjoyed her open, direct and thoughtful contributions to improving leadership impact.During this conversation we go deep into leadership, vulnerability, accountability, courage, awareness, mindset and much more.Renata can be contacted via any of the following means:LinkedIn - - - rp@renataporter.comBio:WHAT I DO: I work with managers, small business owners and companies who want to go to the next level in Leadership. Where they build fully engaged teams that enjoy their place of work, know the value they bring and have the desire to exceed all expectations. I help them connect by being inclusive, transparent, inspiring and most of all, Lead through Action.WHY IT WORKS: Quite honestly, I stay out of theory and get into action. I've spent the last 10 years in Leadership roles. I've worked in both the Public and Private sectors as well as with Non-Profits. I've gained a wealth of knowledge when it comes to leading teams and I know how to build empowered teams that WANT to outperform and overdeliver. While my roles have been varied, the common denominator is how I connect with people. The ability to truly connect with my staff, peers, and superiors is what sets me apart. My approach is to deliver real and actionable programs that managers can make their own and start building on their successes quickly.HOW IT WORKS: I have two avenues, consulting or training. For consulting, the first step is to begin your transformation is to schedule a complimentary 30-minute strategy session. From there we decide on what direction works best for you. These strategies can be delivered through workshops, courses, personal coaching or a combination of the three. With regards to training, I provide a variety of options. Those are online self-study, face to face workshops, webinar workshops (great for busy or remote teams) and face to face or remote coaching.--- Send in a voice message:
I really enjoyed speaking with Lee who has a varied and interesting background with a fascinating toolkit to help serve clients out of their own way by uncovering their blind spots. I loved the range of topics that Lee and I covered including vulnerability, leadership, self-awareness, inclusion, energy, fear, startups and so much more. Lee's FREE Blindspot check can be found here -> Lee can be contacted via the following means:   Website - -   Twitter -  Bio: I UNCOVER YOUR STARTUP'S OPERATIONAL AND STRATEGIC BLINDSPOTS. I'm a business consultant with over 14 years of coaching know-how and over 23 years of corporate knowledge, particularly in financial services. I deliberately look for those areas that could be stifling or stopping your ability to perform to your potential. And you may not even realise they are there - until it is too late. These are your blindspots. I work with all sizes of business, from startups up to large organisations. I also take on a limited amount of individual clients for one to one work. --- Send in a voice message:
I really enjoyed talking to Jo Menon who delivers large scale, global technology projects with a grace and presence that is honestly, incredible.Jo talks candidly about some scary personal life situations that were the catalyst for her shifting her approach to work and life.  We discuss mental health, vulnerability, courage, leadership, horses, mind, boundaries and so much more.Jo can be contacted via the following means:Website - - - Change management, Global systems (HRIS) implementation, Global Talent acquisition, Executive/ High Potential Talent assessment, Recruitment & HR Process Outsourcing, Coaching teams & individuals, Equine Facilitated Learning --- Send in a voice message:
This was a sensational conversation with Minda Harts who is an author, speaker and adjunct professor, helping women of colour secure and own their seat at the table.We had a wonderful, meandering conversation that touched on inclusion, leadership, vulnerability, courage, volunteering, legacy, mindset and so much more.He book The Memo comes out on August 20th and can be pre-ordered here -> Minda can be contacted via the following means:Twitter - LinkedIn - Web - Podcast - Bio: A well-connected, sought after speaker and thought-leader, frequently speaking on topics of Advancing Women of Color, Leadership, Equity, and Entrepreneurship. In 2018, Minda was named as one of 25 Emerging Innovators by American Express. Minda is an assistant professor of public service of NYU’s Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service and the founder of The Memo LLC, a career development company for women of color. Secure The Seat is her weekly career podcast for women of color. Minda has been a featured speaker at Bloomberg, Google, SXSW, Universities, and Colleges, and various Corporations. Minda has a book coming out 8/20 with Hachette Book Group; Seal Press (Available on Pre-order). Minda is accepting speaking engagements for the fall. --- Send in a voice message:
Cornell is an International speaker, multiple title author, social entrepreneur, corporate trainer, mindset coach, former basketball coach, player, and trainer.  He also runs an Executive Coaching Program for CEO’s that focuses on EQ, team building, and culture. This was one of the most impactful conversations, not only of this podcast, but my life.Cornell shares openly and vulnerably his personal journey as we meander though resilience, growth, vulnerability, mindset, family, inclusion, spirituality and so much more.  This truly was one of those WOW conversations.Conrell's positivity summit can be found here -> Cornell can be contacted via the following means:Website - LinkedIn - Twitter - --- Send in a voice message:
What an awesome conversation this was.For the first time on this podcast, I had a conversation with a serial entrepreneur in Anil Dharni, who has set up multiple tech startups including his latest Sense.  Our conversation covered a range of topics including teamwork, leadership, culture, values, awareness, courage, purpose and much more.  I was particularly impressed, and inspired, by the fact that Sense's purpose is to help humanise the contingent labour market, thus tech enabling humans rather than what tends to happen, especially in big corporate, where tech and process rules humans.Anil can be contacted via the following means:Website - Twitter - Email -   Anil@sensehq.comBio: Anil Dharni is the co-founder and CEO of Sense. He founded Sense to help fix temporary employment for the 42 percent of the U.S. workforce that are contingent workers. Before founding Sense, Anil received his MBA from MIT and was co-founder and COO at Funzio, which was acquired by GREE in 2012, where Anil continued his work as COO. Anil led Funzio’s seed round, raised $20 million in Series A funding, and arranged the sale to GREE. --- Send in a voice message:
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Jennifer Cawthorne

I highly reccomend this podcast for anyone interested in leadership, coaching, human resources, or any other topics related to a human-focused approach to work and life. Garry is an engaging host, providing a platform for open and honest discussion with insightful and passionate guests. Thought-provoking and authentic!

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