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Waking Up With AI

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Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel bring you “Waking Up With AI,” an innovative and award-winning Paul, Weiss podcast focused on cutting-edge AI in both tech and law. Katherine and Anna will walk you through the day’s biggest developments in AI just in time for your first cup of coffee.
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Join Katherine Forrest in this week’s episode of "Waking Up With AI" as she unravels the complexities of APIs (Application Programming Interfaces). Discover how these essential software tools enable communication between program and their critical role in AI applications like ChatGPT. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel unravel the mysteries of quantum physics, quantum algorithms and quantum computers. Join them as they discuss the potential of quantum computing to transform AI and scientific discovery. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week on “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel break down the fundamentals of quantum computing and its powerful computational abilities, setting the stage for upcoming episodes that will explore quantum computing's relationship with AI and recent advances from major tech companies. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

AI Research Reimagined

2025-03-0616:40

In this episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel examine the integration of end-to-end reasoning and agentic AI capabilities, with new developments from OpenAI, DeepMind and other leading AI labs. Katherine also shares her firsthand experience with OpenAI’s new deep research capability, which is transforming academic applications of AI. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel examine recent shifts in AI regulation, including the withdrawal of former President Biden's 2023 executive order on AI and the emergence of state-level regulations. They also discuss what these changes mean for companies in terms of navigating governance and compliance. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

The Year of the Robot

2025-02-2716:04

As robotic capabilities have progressed from toys and vacuum cleaners to highly advanced robotic humanoids, so too have the associated challenges and legal implications. This week on “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest explores these developments, as well as her personal experiences with Tesla’s Optimus Pro robot. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Join Anna Gressel as she builds on last week’s DeepSeek discussion to explore why open source AI is once again taking center stage globally, from its potential for collaborative innovation to the policy challenges it presents. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

DeepSeek Rising

2025-02-0624:50

In this episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest delves into the groundbreaking advancements of AI newcomer DeepSeek's R1 and V3 models. She explores how this Chinese tech company is challenging the status quo and making waves in the AI space. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

Deepfakes After Death

2025-01-3007:19

In this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Anna Gressel considers audio deepfakes and the complex legal and regulatory questions that arise when a deepfake uses the likeness of the deceased. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Following last week’s deep dive into semiconductor chips, Katherine and Anna revisit the concept of AI inference. They explore AI reasoning capabilities, why inference quality matters for lawyers and recent advancements that can improve how models infer. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

All Things Chips

2025-01-1622:18

This week, Katherine Forrest delves into the critical role of semiconductor chips in AI and the complex export controls shaping their future. Discover why these tiny components are at the heart of global innovation and what it means for the AI landscape in the year ahead. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Join Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel as they explore the concept of on-device AI. They delve into the benefits and challenges of on-device AI, as well as related topics like on-premise AI and model optimization techniques like quantization and pruning. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel review recent research on newly discovered model capabilities around the concepts of AI alignment and deception. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this week’s episode Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel explore the nuances between misinformation and disinformation, the role of AI in spreading falsehoods and the innovative tools being developed to combat these threats. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel look at some of the benefits, potential risks and safeguards that companies may want to consider when using AI to generate code. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Join Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel as they explore the challenges and opportunities of scaling AI models, from data walls to Moore's law, in this episode of "Waking Up With AI." ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel explore the ways in which the AI user interface (UI) may be changing, from text-based interfaces to robots, brain-machine interfaces and more. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss how courts are grappling with the evidentiary issues raised by AI-generated or manipulated content, such as deepfakes, and how the federal judiciary is considering new rules to address them. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Join Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel as they delve into the latest advancements in AI policy, regulation, and agentic technology. On this week’s episode they discuss how AI agents are transforming industries and the critical compliance and governance issues that come with these innovations. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel explore the transformation of LLM capabilities over the past few years. Are these models merely engaging in word prediction, or can they actually “reason”? ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel explore a new tool that can generate podcasts from text input. Can they spot the signs of artificiality, and how does this tool challenge our assumptions about media and communication? ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel introduce you to NIST—the National Institute of Standards and Technology, an office of the Department of Commerce—and its role in shaping the present and future of artificial intelligence in the United States. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this episode of Waking Up With AI, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel update you on the latest status of two AI bills from the California legislature—SB 1047, which was sent back without signature, and AB 2839, which is the subject of a preliminary injunction in Federal court. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
As frontier models continuously get larger and more capable, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss the challenges and breakthroughs in AI architecture, energy consumption and data requirements that are shaping the future of technology. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel explore whether AI is truly transformative or just part of a technology hype cycle. They point to transformative use cases that have already been seen and identify recent advancements in the field. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel provide a primer on jailbreaking in the generative AI context, a subject that's top of mind for security researchers and malicious actors alike. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel walk you through key provisions of the AI-related bills that recently made their way out of the California legislature and onto Governor Newsom’s desk. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel look at some of the governance, regulatory and technological questions that boards of directors may want to consider amid a rapidly evolving AI landscape. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Join Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel as they delve into the latest developments, from algorithmic bias to risk mitigation, and explore how these issues impact both the technical and legal landscapes of artificial intelligence. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week on “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel look at recent U.S. regulatory developments in AI, namely a significant piece of legislation coming out of Colorado. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel delve into different types of AI architectures, from Transformer models to “Mamba” — a type of architecture that’s making significant headway in 2024. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

AI Interpretability

2024-08-1511:32

In this week’s episode, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel unravel interpretability, an evolving field of AI safety research, while exploring its potential significance for regulators as well as its relation to concepts like explainability and transparency. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

Open Source AI

2024-08-0808:45

In this episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss the brief history of open source software, while also exploring the complexities and implications of open source AI models. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this episode of "Waking Up With AI," Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss the complexities and implications of the EU AI Act coming into effect, outlining its broad territorial scope, risk categories, governance expectations, and phased compliance timeline. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

Robots and Embodied AI

2024-07-2510:14

Katherine and Anna unravel the relationship between robotics and generative AI while highlighting some recent demonstrations that integrate these two dynamic fields. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel break down the concept of “Mixture of Experts,” an innovative AI technique that enhances efficiency and performance and powers some of today’s most advanced large language models. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

Human-Centered AI

2024-07-1107:51

Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel explore the concept of human-centered AI, discussing how AI systems can be designed with the fundamental goal of prioritizing human needs and enhancing our daily lives. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this week’s episode, Katherine Forrest introduces the infamous accuracy versus fairness problem in AI, while pointing to some recent research developments that could show promise in identifying bias in models. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this week’s episode, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel delve into the pressing issues surrounding responsible AI and the potential for its misuse, including the darker side of AI. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

Transparency and AI

2024-06-2009:13

In this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel describe what it means for an AI system to be transparent, and how the shift from narrow AI to generative AI has made transparency harder. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

Reasoning in AI

2024-06-1308:19

In this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel address the captivating topic of AI’s reasoning capabilities and its ethical implications. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

AI Safety

2024-06-0606:49

In the wake of the AI Summit in Seoul, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss AI safety—how to ensure that AI systems don’t pose unacceptable risks, including catastrophic risks—in this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI.” ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

Biometric Data and AI

2024-05-3007:59

In this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel explore the intersection of AI with the complex world of biometric data, breaking down the tangled web of regulations impacting its usage around the world. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence

The Rise of Deepfakes

2024-05-2309:25

In this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI," Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss the rise of deepfakes, the risks they pose, and the regulatory and legal responses they are triggering. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel introduce the concept of frontier AI models, their potential risks and the growing regulatory concerns surrounding these powerful AI systems. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
What are the ethical implications of AI agents that can act autonomously, learn from their interactions and influence human behavior? In this week's episode of "Waking Up With AI," Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel dive deeper into this complex topic and explain how it applies to real-world scenarios and challenges that businesses may face with this emerging technology. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this week’s episode of “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss the role of indemnification provisions as a clarification tool in the complex AI landscape – and all of the questions that they raise. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week on “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss the potential for AI to increase access to justice, while flagging some risks and ethical concerns around the use of AI in law. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
In this week’s episode, Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss the differences between AI regulatory regimes around the world. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
This week on “Waking Up With AI,” Katherine Forrest and Anna Gressel discuss AI agents, which not only have the ability to perform multiple tasks, but the flexibility to pivot when they run into problems. ## Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence Practice: https://www.paulweiss.com/practices/litigation/artificial-intelligence
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