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A podcast covering 50 years of Saturday Night Live. With hosts Christian Schneider and Scot Bertram.
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Season 51 of Saturday Night Live is upon us, so in this episode, Christian and Scot discuss all the cast changes made over the summer and what they thought of the season debut, hosted by Bad Bunny.Wasn't That Special: 50 Years of SNL is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
You’ve heard us discuss the best cast members in Saturday Night Live history. You’ve read our list of the best seasons. But what are the best single episodes in show history? (And what are a few of the worst?) All will be revealed in this episode.Wasn't That Special: 50 Years of SNL is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
Presumably you have popped your champagne and donned your finest tuxedo or evening gown and you’re ready to listen to us count down the best 25 SNL cast members of all time. (And while you’re at it, you can catch up on our rankings of the next 50 cast members here and cast members 76-128 here.)Without any further ado, here are the best SNL cast members of all-time, ranked (With Christian’s ranking and Scot’s ranking listed.)25. Billy Crystal (CS 40, SB 18)24. Joe Piscopo (CS 31, SB 21) 23. Chris Farley (CS 26, SB 26)22. Molly Shannon (CS 18, SB 31)21. Martin Short (CS 19, SB 30)20. Vanessa Bayer (CS 24, SB 22)19. Jason Sudeikis (CS 33, SB 11)18. Rachel Dratch (CS 14, SB 27)17. Kenan Thompson (CS 21, SB 20)16. John Belushi (CS 23, SB 13)15. Mike Myers (CS 15, SB 19)14. Chevy Chase (CS 12, SB 17)13. Bill Hader (CS 16, SB 12)12. Kate McKinnon (CS 11, SB 16)11. Amy Poehler (CS 9, SB 15)10. Jon Lovitz (CS 13, SB 8)9. Will Forte (CS 10, SB 10)8. Kristen Wiig (CS 8, SB 9)7. Gilda Radner (CS 5, SB 7)6. Bill Murray (CS 6, SB 5)5. Dana Carvey (CS 4, SB 6)4. Phil Hartman (CS 7, SB 2)3. Dan Aykroyd (CS 3, SB 3)2. Eddie Murphy (CS 1, SB 4)1. Will Ferrell (CS 2, SB 1) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
Welcome to the second installment of our Saturday Night Live cast member countdown. This time, we tackle the next 50 cast members on our list, from number 75 down to 26. Not only does this one have some rankings that will shock casual SNL viewers (and Tina Fey and Adam Sandler fans especially), it also features some sharp disagreements between your hosts, with some cast members being ranked almost 50 spots apart on their ballots. All is explained in the episode. Enjoy! (And make sure to catch our rankings of cast members 76-128 here.)The rankings: (with Christian and Scot’s ballot position added.)75. David Spade (CS 86, SB 64)74. Joan Cusack (CS 73, SB 76)73. Leslie Jones (CS 81, SB 67)72. Garrett Morris (CS 53, SB 93)71. Laraine Newman (CS 68, SB 72)70. Gary Kroeger (CS 66, SB 73)69. Andrew Dismukes (CS 93, SB 44)68. Beck Bennett (CS 76, SB 60)67. Christopher Guest (CS 79, SB 51)66. Alex Moffat (CS 67, SB 63)65. Al Franken (CS 44, SB 83)64. Ana Gasteyer (CS 64, SB 62)63. Bowen Yang (CS 59, SB 66)62. Tracy Morgan (CS 52, SB 71)61. Jim Belushi (CS 75, SB 47)60. Robin Duke (CS 36, SB 85)59. Nasim Pedrad (CS 56, SB 65)58. Taran Killam (CS 65, SB 53)57. Julia Sweeney (CS 34, SB 73)56. Mary Gross (CS 46, SB 59)55. Mikey Day (CS 62, SB 41)54. Cecily Strong (CS 72, SB 29)53. Heidi Gardner (CS 45, SB 55)52. Tina Fey (CS 43, SB 56)51. Sarah Sherman (CS 38, SB 61)50. Chris Kattan (CS 49, SB 50)49. Seth Meyers (CS 50, SB 46)48. Jan Hooks (CS 47, SB 49)47. James Austin Johnson (CS 48, SB 48)46. Colin Jost (CS 57, SB 38)45. Chris Parnell (CS 55, SB 40)44. Kevin Nealon (CS 60, SB 34)43. Ego Nwodim (CS 54, SB 35)42. Cheri Oteri (CS 30, SB 57)41. Michael Che (CS 58, SB 28)40. Norm Macdonald (CS 61, SB 23)39. Jimmy Fallon (CS 42, SB 42)38. Adam Sandler (CS 41, SB 43)37. Victoria Jackson (CS 27, SB 52)36. Tim Meadows (CS 20, SB 59)35. Aidy Bryant (CS 39, SB 36)34. Andy Samberg (CS 17, SB 54)33. Rob Schneider (CS 32, SB 37)32. Maya Rudolph (CS 22, SB 45)31. Dennis Miller (CS 51, SB 14)30. Fred Armisen (CS 25, SB 39)29. Darrell Hammond (CS 37, SB 25)28. Tim Kazurinsky (CS 28, SB 33)27. Bobby Moynihan (CS 29, SB 32)26. Jane Curtin (CS 35, SB 24)Wasn't That Special: 50 Years of SNL is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
Of all the reasons to start a podcast, spite seems to be near the top of the list. For too many years, we have seen ridiculous “best of” lists ranking Saturday Night Live cast members, seasons, and sketches that were clearly written by people who had only watched a small fraction of the show. Norm MacDonald the seventh-worst cast member of all time? Jenny Slate ahead of Bobby Moynihan? Beth Cahill above Joe Piscopo? Pamela Stephenson ahead of Will Forte?If SNL had a justice system, these would be capital crimes. Naturally, any good holder of grudges would spend two years watching 1,000 hours of SNL to set the record straight, and that is what we did. Based on our careful notes and observations we made our own list of best cast members, and we’re starting to count them down with this list.Some ground rules to start: We picked out 38 cast members who only served one season or less and excluded them from our ranking. There is simply no way to rank this morass of people. Think of them all being tied for number 129. You may note that some notable cast members only served one year - Billy Crystal, Martin Short, and the like. We left these people in because the changes to the show were structural - they were not related to the performance of the cast member. With these loose rules in place, the excluded cast members list (alternately known as the “thank you for your service” list) includes: Aristotle Athari, Peter Aykroyd, Morwenna Banks, Paul Brittain, Beth Cahill, George Coe, Jim Downey, Christine Ebersole, Dean Edwards, Siobhan Fallon, Janeane Garofalo, Lauren Holt, Yvonne Hudson, Laura Kightlinger, Matthew Laurance, Laurie Metcalf, John Milhiser, Jerry Minor, Luke Null, Mike O'Brien, Emily Prager, Rob Riggle, Tim Robinson, Jon Rudnitsky, Tom Schiller, Sarah Silverman, Jenny Slate, Pamela Stephenson, Ben Stiller, Chloe Troast, Dan Vitale, Nancy Walls, Michaela Watkins, Patrick Weathers, Noel Wells, Brooks Wheelan, Fred Wolf, and Alan Zweibel.From then on, we move to the list of featured players who merited ranking. Below are the rankings, along with the rank given to each cast member by Christian (CS) and Scot (SB). You will see that in some cases, the disparity is pretty large. (The final ranking is determined by averaging out each host’s score.)So listen above to our commentary on the list - we get into why we ranked people where we did and discuss some of our biggest disagreements.Thus, without any further ado, the final list of cast members between 76 and 128 are:128. Charles Rocket (CS 127, SB 127)127. Ann Risley (CS 124, SB 128)126. Robert Downey, Jr. (CS 125, SB 125)125. Kyle Mooney (CS 126, SB 123)124. Paul Shaffer (CS 128, SB 118)123. Jeff Richards (CS 123, SB 122)122. Anthony Michael Hall (CS 118, SB 126)121. Jay Mohr (CS 122, SB 120)120. Molly Kearney (CS 119, SB 116)119. Melanie Hutsell (CS 120, SB 113)118. Jane Wickline (CS 112, SB 117)117. Damon Wayans (CS 111, SB 115)116. Jim Breuer (CS 114, SB 111)115. Michael O'Donoghue (CS 105, SB 119)114. Finesse Mitchell (CS 103, SB 121)113. Emil Wakim (CS 109, SB 114)112. Casey Wilson (CS 113, SB 109)111. Brian Doyle-Murray (CS 116, SB 106)110. Gilbert Gottfried (CS 117, SB 100)109. Devon Walker (CS110, SB107)108. A. Whitney Brown (CS 115, SB 99)107. Terry Sweeney (CS 87, SB 124) 106. Don Novello (CS 104, SB 101)105. Tom Davis (CS 91, SB 113)104. Brad Hall (CS 95, SB 108)103. Michael Longfellow (CS 99, SB 103)102. Colin Quinn (CS 106, SB 94)101. Punkie Johnson (CS 97, SB 102)100. Abby Elliott (CS 94, SB 105)99. Tony Rosato (CS 107, SB 91)98. Michael McKean (CS 121, SB 77) 97. Harry Shearer (CS 108, SB 84)96. Gail Matthius (CS 101, SB 88)95. Danitra Vance (CS 88, SB 99)94. Melissa Villaseñor (CS 89, SB 95)93. Denny Dillon (CS 92, SB 90)92. Robert Smigel (CS 71, SB 110)91. Ellen Cleghorne (CS 77, SB 104)90. Jay Pharoah (CS 83, SB 96)89. Rich Hall (CS 96, SB 81)88. David Koechner (CS 98, SB 78)87. Sasheer Zamata (CS 74, SB 97)86. Ashley Padilla (CS 82, SB 89)85. Pete Davidson (CS 90, SB 80)84. Mark McKinney (CS 102, SB 68)83. Julia Louis-Dreyfus (CS 100, SB 70)82. Chris Redd (CS 85, SB 82)81. Horatio Sanz (CS 70, SB 92)80. Marcello Hernandez (CS 80, SB 79)79. Chris Rock (CS 69, SB 86)78. Randy Quaid (CS 84, SB 69)77. Chloe Fineman (CS 78, SB 75)76. Nora Dunn (CS 63, SB 87)Check back in next time, where we review cast members ranked 26 through 75. And thanks for listening!Wasn't That Special: 50 Years of SNL is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
We hope you are wearing oven mitts when holding your phone as you listen to this episode, because we dish up our hot takes covering the first 50 years of Saturday Night Live. How would we improve the show? What cast members are overrated? Who were our SNL crushes? Find out in this listener-requested episode! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
On this episode, Christian and Scot discuss the Saturday Night Live 50th Anniversary show that aired in February of 2025. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
They say it couldn’t be done. (And maybe some say it shouldn’t be done.) But we got to the 50th season.Season 50 debuted with high expectations, given the historic anniversary. While some hoped for each episode to be hosted by past cast members and filled with nostalgic callbacks, the reality was more conventional. Although it featured a star-studded anniversary special and brought back several past SNL icons—including Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Alec Baldwin, and David Spade—the season overall did not radically deviate from SNL’s recent trajectory.Three new cast members joined—Ashley Padilla, Emil Wakim, and Jane Wickline—while Punkie Johnson, Chloe Troast, and Molly Kearney departed. Ashley Padilla, in particular, was praised for her impressive rookie performance and potential to take on a larger role if veterans like Chloe Fineman or Heidi Gardner leave.A prominent feature of the season was its reliance on recycling. Sketch concepts, characters, and even formats were reused or reinterpreted. For example, a successful sketch from Season 49 featuring Nate Bargatze as George Washington was revived, albeit with diminished surprise. Similarly, a sketch mimicking the old Chris Farley–Mike Myers Japanese game show setup reappeared in new form, highlighting the season’s tendency to “resurface” material.Political sketches were frequent, if uninspired. Dana Carvey reprised his Biden impression, Maya Rudolph played Kamala Harris, and James Austin Johnson returned as Donald Trump. Many of these sketches were described as “political cosplay”—faithful reenactments of real events with little added satire or perspective. This dynamic was most evident in cold opens that simply replayed political moments from the week with minimal comedic insight. One notable exception was a post-election cold open that subverted expectations by mocking SNL’s own history of over-earnestness after political losses.The overuse of celebrity cameos sometimes came at the expense of the current cast. Christian and Scot observed that cast members like Sarah Sherman and Ego Nwodim were overshadowed. Bowen Yang was heavily featured early in the season, but both hosts argued that he lacks the range to carry that much weight, often playing variations of himself. Conversely, James Austin Johnson was underused outside of his Trump impression, despite being one of the show's most versatile performers.One of the season’s breakout sketches, “Domingo,” which revolves around a chaotic wedding reception, became a viral hit—especially among millennial women. While the hosts didn’t find the sketch particularly strong, they acknowledged it struck a nerve with a specific demographic, showing how the show’s appeal can vary widely depending on cultural context.Ultimately, Bertram and Schneider conclude that Season 50 of SNL didn’t reinvent the wheel but encapsulated the modern SNL experience—safe, familiar, and intermittently excellent. It wasn’t a triumphant landmark season, but it did enough to suggest the show remains relevant, if uneven, as it enters its second half-century. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wasntthatspecial.comAfter the prior handful of seasons that felt like a slog, Saturday Night Live came to life in Season 49 in ways we’d almost forgotten the show could manage.Much of that spark came from what we half‑jokingly labeled the “return of the patriarchy.” For nearly a decade the women quite deservedly owned the spotlight, but this year the men finally pushed the…
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wasntthatspecial.comSeason 48 of Saturday Night Live represented a subtle but notable step forward for a show that had been mired in several years of creative stagnation. While far from a return to peak form, the season was generally considered a “standard deviation” — a slight improvement that, while still below average in historical terms, felt like a more “normal” SNL s…
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wasntthatspecial.comSeason 47 of Saturday Night Live was defined by overpopulation, inertia, and hints of a creative reset. While it wasn’t a creative renaissance, there were signs of potential - new cast members, fresh writers, and a few flashes of promise - amidst a bloated and often sluggish season.This season came on the heels of a historically weak run marked by cast …
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wasntthatspecial.comIf you like your comedy sleepy, inconsistent, and oddly celebrity-packed, Season 46 of Saturday Night Live was ready to serve. But if you were hoping for a creative rebound after the shaky COVID lockdown season before it, well… sorry.This was the first season back in Studio 8H after the “At Home” episodes that ended Season 45. And while you’d think the …
Season 45 of Saturday Night Live was one of the most unusual and pivotal in the show’s long history, defined by both the disruption of the COVID-19 pandemic and lingering creative stagnation. In this episode, we each described the season with medically themed words—“viral” and “infected”—capturing its literal interruption by the coronavirus and the metaphorical symptoms of deeper artistic problems.The pandemic played a defining role in this season, with production halting in March 2020. The final three episodes, known as the “SNL at Home” shows, were filmed remotely, with cast members recording sketches in their kitchens and bedrooms using whatever technology they had on hand. Though uneven, these episodes formed a kind of proto-TikTok aesthetic—short-form, DIY comedy that foreshadowed future trends in digital humor. Despite their limitations, the remote shows were endearing and occasionally clever, offering glimpses into cast members’ homes and personal lives. Opening credits were revamped accordingly, showcasing the performers in lockdown mode, which added a touch of humanity to the chaotic moment.Season 45 began with a scandal before it even aired: comedian Shane Gillis was hired and then quickly fired after offensive podcast clips surfaced. His departure cast a shadow over what could have been a much-needed injection of edgy male energy into a cast lacking strong male leads. Gillis’ story, later revisited in his own words, remains one of the great “what-ifs” in SNL lore. Meanwhile, the season welcomed Chloe Fineman and Bowen Yang to the cast, the latter becoming the show’s first Chinese-American cast member. Leslie Jones departed after several seasons.A major highlight came mid-season with Eddie Murphy’s much-anticipated return to host for the first time since the 1980s. The episode leaned heavily on nostalgia, reviving Mr. Robinson, Gumby, Buckwheat, and Velvet Jones. Though not a groundbreaking night creatively, Murphy’s energy and charisma carried the episode, making it the clear standout of the season. Adam Driver also returned and solidified his reputation as a dependable host who throws himself into absurd material with gusto.However, the rest of the season often faltered under the weight of formulaic writing and stale impressions. The political cold opens were frequently bloated, unimaginative, and crammed with cameos and impersonations with little satirical bite. Alec Baldwin’s portrayal of Donald Trump continued to degrade in quality, and sketches often focused more on quantity of impressions than on substance or commentary. Characters like Elizabeth Warren (played by Kate McKinnon) were used more for performative cheerleading than actual satire, contributing to a sense of detachment from meaningful political critique.The show leaned heavily on a comedic duo dynamic between Kate McKinnon and Aidy Bryant, who appeared together in numerous sketches. While they had chemistry, their sketches were hit-or-miss, with Bryant receiving a significant uptick in screen time this season. Meanwhile, male cast members like Mikey Day and Alex Moffat were underused. Bennett and Mooney's brand of surrealist sketches wore thin, and Christian Schneider raised red flags about a growing collaboration between Beck Bennett and writer Andrew Dismukes, citing multiple sketches that felt lazy or derivative.Season 45 marked the end of the road for veteran writer James Anderson, who had been with the show for 20 years. The writing staff was supplemented with new faces, including Dan Licata and Jasmine Pierce, but the overall tone of the show remained inconsistent and often uninspired.Despite occasional bright spots—some quirky digital shorts, decent host performances, and nostalgic callbacks—the season was largely weighed down by political fatigue, repetitive sketches, and the existential shock of a global pandemic. As we concluded, SNL was not just infected by COVID—it was creatively ailing and in desperate need of a reboot. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wasntthatspecial.comNever has any television show wanted anything more than Saturday Night Live wanted to see President Donald Trump imprisoned over his alleged collusion with Russia during the 2016 presidential election. In sketch after sketch this season, SNL writers pleaded with Special Investigator Robert Mueller to recommend criminal charges against Trump - and yet wh…
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wasntthatspecial.comAmong the many complaints you always hear about Saturday Night Live these days is that the show is saturated with celebrity cameos. The actual cast members don’t get their chance to shine because the show is overstuffed with big names showing up to play the week’s newsmakers.Season 42 certainly had its share of stuntcasting, with Melissa McCarthy showin…
On this free episode, we talked with Entertainment Weekly writer Andy Hoglund about his recent Vulture article in which he interviewed 65 former Saturday Night Live cast members and writers in advance of the 50th Anniversary show. Hoglund also discusses how he got into SNL and tells some stories about he collected signatures for his SNL autograph book.You can find Hoglund’s SNL episode recaps at Entertainment Weekly here. And follow him on X at @SNLinReview.Here’s video of our chat! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wasntthatspecial.comWe have said it in prior seasons - sometimes, huge political and cultural shifts push Saturday Night Live to rise to the occasion. It happened with the Monica Lewinsky scandal in the late 1990s. It happened when Sarah Palin joined the Republican presidential ticket in 2008.And it happened again in 2016, as Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton battled it out…
On Monday night, Wasn’t That Special co-host Scot Bertram joined WTMJ Radio host Sandy Maxx to recap the big SNL 50th Anniversary Special on NBC. Did it live up to expectations? What moments stood out? Who was missing?You can find the appearance on the WTMJ page here or listen above. Christian and Scot shared some thoughts in the chat the night of the broadcast on NBC and also plan a full review of the festivities as part of the project. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
On Friday night, Wasn’t That Special co-host Scot Bertram joined WTMJ Radio host Sandy Maxx to preview the big SNL 50th Anniversary Special on NBC. Who might attend, what might happen, and what’s the special sauce the powers Lorne Michaels’ success?You can find the appearance on the WTMJ page here or listen right here. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wasntthatspecial.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wasntthatspecial.comSince its inception, Saturday Night Live has been political. But rarely has the show delved into politics more deeply than in Season 41, when President Barack Obama had one foot out of the door, Hillary Clinton was taking a presumptive victory lap, and a group of Republicans was battling to see who would challenge Clinton in 2016.Clinton herself would s…