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Caleigh & Justin explore the intersection between mass media culture & mental health. We bring on entertainment industry professionals to talk about any and everything - but especially how they stay sane day to day!
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Actor and acting teacher Rachel Bailit not only gets generous with her time and expertise, she also helps us understand what generosity has to do with the work of an actor in our chat about demystifying method acting and how to balance the use of our own selves and memories in our work with the ability to let go and stay attentive in the moment. Pull out all your masks and shove this in their earholes and then go get the vaccine.
ONE COOL THINGS:
Rachel: Communicating through Ancient Greek vases.
(Rachel's "Sense Memory in Art tour discussing an ancient Greek Amphora" video)
Cales: Kintsugi & vaccines
Rachel Bailit:
www.rachelbailitteaching
www.Rachel Bailit.com
IG: @RachelBailitteaching
FB: @RachelBailit  and @actingforanimators
Clubhouse: Methodacting
Rachelâs book reco:
Acting : The First Six Lessons
by Richard Boleslavsky
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Justinâs been taking on more responsibility with his new puppy; Cales showers then gets back into no bra forever howwillshemakeitbackoutinrealworlds; and thank goddesses for our guest who is the ever-delightful, brilliantly-witted, comically-inclined Dena Jackson. Friends, sheâs a breath of fresh air and talking to her feels like talking to heart. Shove us in the tunnel tubes to your own heart and listen to Dena talk about comedy, reiki, and tiny egos with loud voices.
Also, itâs t bittyâs birthday (date recorded)! SO HAPPY BORN DAY TO THE QUEEN. đ
COOL THINGS:
Dena: mindfulness showers
Cales: home herbs & mood mail forewarning!
Justin: wins it all again with puppy Aspen making a guest appearance! THAT FACE! đ„ș
Dena Jackson:
Denajackson.ca
Twitter/ig: @denatalks
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Storyâs all around us â selling us, buying us, moving us, halting us. But what the heck is it? How do advertisers and screenwriters and friends and fam use it? Gimme the basics, WTNOK!
New friend and long time Story Creator Rodrigo Portaro breaks Story down into basics. He also shares his own story about leaving a career that was making him sad and finding his new path in life, helping others tell stories. Shove us in your earholes to listen to the⊠story.
Rodrigo Portaro:
Site:Â https://rodrigoportaro.com/
Twitter:Â https://twitter.com/RodrigoPortaro
Instagram (but it is in Portuguese):Â https://www.instagram.com/rodrigoportaro/
COOL THINGS:
Rodrigo: www.academiadatrama.com.br
Justin: Christmas music, meow! Donât matter that it ainât Christmas! (Just cuz itâs April donât mean it ainât currently snowing in Canada, baybeeee đ)
Cales: Unplug. (Especially when the universe forces you to when you get too wrapped up in being busy.)
Rodrigoâs Recommended Books:
Story, Robert Mckee:Â https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042FZVOY/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
The Golden Theme, Brian McDonald:Â https://www.amazon.com/-/pt/dp/B06VYHWMDZ/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_pt_BR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=the+golden+theme&qid=1617309314&s=digital-text&sr=1-1
Invisible Ink, Brian McDonald:Â https://www.amazon.com/-/pt/dp/B06W5KC2ZR/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_pt_BR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=invisible+ink&qid=1617309362&s=digital-text&sr=1-1
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From frequencies and ethics around shaping sound for film to working with masters and having an actual dragon as a part of production, composer David Federman chats with Cales about the work theyâve done together and the journeys heâs experienced along his trajectory as a music maker in the film industry, including all the Spanish dancing and concussions along the way!
COOL THINGS:
David: I'm the arranger/orchestrator of Back and Forth (music/book/lyrics by Dayjan Lesmond), which is a musical about... totally not being okay. It explores the artist's journey and struggles with mental health... and by the way, we have a dragon. Avail to watch here:Â
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5GpsWoKb2k
Cales: Meet yourself where youâre at.Â
Justin: sneakinâ in there via Happs audience member Frankâs ââ±â post (fun lil Easter egg for ya beauty live viewers!)
Additional links:
David Federman:
@federmusik on FB, TW, and IG.
federmusik.com
https://soundcloud.com/federmusik
https://federmusik.com/blog/
https://federmusik.com/2021/03/21/inside-the-federmusik-double-edged/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIBNvCpLukI
âThe Monster in Meâ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyG492Ilxvg
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Captivating. Keen. Killinâ it with the analogies. We zoom-sat-chat with Jessica Schmiedchen to hear how she balances being a mom with her role as a CBC TV exec and all the notes in between (specifically, those given around the dinner table). AND! The coach you never knew you needed until you got a platinum pixie cut!
COOL THINGS:
Jessica: Yoga With Adriene (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFKE7WVJfvaHW5q283SxchA)
Cales: Home-made disinfectant spray [80% rubbing alcohol, freshly squeezed aloe vera, and your fav essential oils for fragrance]
Justin: Reach out!
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ZOOM DATE with Meagan... ok not a zoom date, weâre still on @happsnews but we talk about zoom dating. And life as a talent agent. And a cat that walked out of a house fire as the sole survivor.
Down to earth gab fest full of real talk, peloton and mugs of wine. Shove us in yer earholes, babes.
Meow.
COOL THINGS
Cales: Saje essential oils (theyâre delicious).
Meagan: Library
Justin: Dumplings from scratch
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Is art in the doing or in the result; in the act or the product? This was a night-long conversation Cales had with her grand pal Donis & we decided to continue it on in a WTNOK episode to not only watch Calesâ head almost spin off its axle, but so yâall could be privy to how effing cool of a pirate Mike Donis is â filmmaker, director, editor, actor, and yes, an actual pirate. Shove us in yer ear holes for clarification (& antics).Â
Donis on  Instagram: @mikedonisÂ
â on Twitter (which he never uses): also @mikedonisÂ
Check out more from his composer for âPete Winningâ here: http://aarontsang.com/ and on insta: @aarontsang.music
   Â
Cool things:
Donis: âFor my own mental health, I wake up every day at least two hours before I have to leave home. I essentially just sit by myself for the first hour, before starting to get ready to leave during the second hour. No matter how early I have to get up, 95% of the time I do the two-hours thing. It helps me feel settled before gearing up for the day.â
Cales: jeans (but also something significantly deeper, mentioned mid-ep, which none of us could remember by the end, so maybe not so deep actually, but rather than re-listening to her own voice again, yay, a fun Easter egg for you!)
Justin: Drawing as an act of mediation!Â
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Dav, like Cales, doesnât necessarily care for labels, though several deem her a sensational journalist and we feel confident enough saying she is a delightfully passionate conversationalist and bright, shiny soul!
This gal can not only talk up a storm but has the gumption and confidence to keep advancing her own conversations on her own platforms, even in the face of adversarial voices. She opens up about personal prompts to want to be vocal, political plies that fuel her fire, and references one of Calesâ favourite poets with a quote we cannot help but share here again:
âThe best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.â
    â    William Butler Yeats
COOL THINGS:
Dav: self-compassion
Cales: âOpening Scenesâ Scriptnotes episode (https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/493-opening-scenes/id462495496?i=1000514099795)
Justin: Onesies & March of Remembrance and Hope Canada (http://www.marchofremembranceandhope.org/)
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TRIGGER WARNING! Sensitive topics discussed!
Watch this Ep on Youtube: https://youtu.be/aljOWzfVcLM
Has isolation offered us a sense of âmore time?â Have social apps that âbring us togetherâ made us feel âless alone?â Has having these technologies at our disposal or even roofs over our heads left us feeling âless stressedâ or âmore put together?â Honestly, NOPE.
Todayâs guest makes us feel OK about not always feeling OK, opening up about personal moments of vulnerability â being homeless, having packages arrive in the middle of an interview, pushing forward in the fight to fight the good fight that often feels like a fight with yourself.
Revolution has his own @HappsNews show, where he aims to create space for good conversation with good-hearted people and, as he was the one who introduced us to the platform, he also shares a bunch of things he loves about the community!
Find more of Rev here:
Twitter: @RevMacLive
Happs: @RevMacLive
IG: @revmaclive
http://becomecenter.org/
COOL THINGS:
Rev: @HappsNews
Cales: Thank you. (Youâre welcome.)
Justin: IS GETTING A PUPPY!
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SEASON 3!
WE MOVED! Weâre LIVE! Weâre on @HappsTV! And we also forgot to introduce ourselves in this episode because we were SO FREAKING EXCITED. So allow us to do so now.Â
Hello, and welcome to Weâre Totally (Not) OK.Â
But thatâs OK.
A podcast about the intersection between mass media culture and mental health.Â
Iâm Caleigh Le Grand.
And Iâm Justin Van Lieshout.
And we promise to try to remember things that make you feel comfortable and nostalgic and just plain informed because basics, right?
WEâLL NEVER FIGURE IT OUT AND WEâLL NEVER GET IT DONE AND THATâS OK!
Weâre hashtag blessed to have a dear friend, Gavin Michael Booth, as our first episode for season three, because heâs literally perfect for our podcast â a filmmaker who just released his film precisely dealing with intricacies of mental health. Gavin tells us about some of the challenges he faced putting together his double-single-take feature film (yes, you read that right), shares his insanely adorable dog (which you can actually see if ya head over to Happs TV to catch the broadcast replay), and we all get to interact with fans who watched and commented live-time while we conducted the interview!
Check out more of Gavin's work:
https://www.instagram.com/gavinmichaelbooth/
https://twitter.com/GavinBooth
http://gavinmichaelbooth.com/
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Donât start here! Go one ep back! This is part 2 of 2 of our conversation with documentary filmmakers Omar Mouallem and Dylan Rhys Howard, creators of âDigging in the Dirtâ â a documentary film about addiction, suicide, and men's mental health in the Alberta oil sands. Find it on CBC Gem, and listen on to hear them share views on things like:
How do we think about work? Is productivity worth more than life itself? Not sure anyone would openly conquer, but what does our economyâs last â oh, I donât know â few hundred years reflect? How much of our identities are intrinsically tied into our occupational endeavours? Is work the epitome of our cultural values? Is there that much more of a culture of silence around menâs mental health, given our hegemonic ideologies about masculinity? Does reporting on suicide expose and curb paths that lead to them or encourage copycats? What kind of fear is good to have as a journalist? Emotionally, how does communication like texting or typing differ from speaking the words from your mouth?
So. Many. Questions.
They also open up about their own mental health whilst working on a documentary about suicide. Spoiler alert: one starts going to therapy, the other claims to have been going to therapy long before it was cool.
Letâs get deep and have fun about it.
E-book: Mindset: Reporting on Mental Health
http://www.journalismforum.ca/mindset-reporting-on-mental-health
âDigging in the Dirtâ on CBC Gem:
https://gem.cbc.ca/media/media/absolutely-canadian/episode-23/38e815a-011a7b71c5b
Cool Things:
Justinâs:
SPJ Code of Ethics
https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp
Calesâ:
Coffee grounds (obvi) but for plants!
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/ingredients/coffee-grounds-gardening.htm
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We dive into the social, economical, and emotional expectations of men in the oil & gas culture with documentary filmmakers Omar Mouallem and Dylan Rhys Howard. Their film âDigging in the Dirtâ (on CBC Gem) focuses on addiction, suicide, and menâs mental health in the Alberta oil sands. They explore the layers underneath the culture of silence that surround menâs mental health and how men are sometimes stoic to their own detriment.
The more they learned about menâs mental health, the more they were able to reflect on their own personal mental struggles and journeys. If the work didnât begin personal, it certainly became so.
This was such a poignant and deep conversation that we kept Omar from his kids for an extra episodeâs worth of discussion. So, hereâs part 1 of 2.
âDigging in the Dirtâ on CBC Gem:
https://gem.cbc.ca/media/media/absolutely-canadian/episode-23/38e815a-011a7b71c5b
Albertaâs Mental Health Line
1-877-303-2642
Cool Things:
Justinâs:
Breaking the fourth wall
Calesâ:
Sadhguru
https://isha.sadhguru.org/ca/en
&
âThe Most Unknownâ (2018) on Netflix
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Four ladies found each other after each losing their spouses. Their connection led them to start a business together â one that would help others learn how to handle lifeâs hardships or how to be there for others going through hard times.
Alexie and Shannon from Lost + Found (soon to be known as âCrying Out Loudâ) join us for a beautiful convo and an even more lovely reminder that itâs totally OK to not feel OK.
Pause and have a cool little listen. Itâs totally fine that you didnât get everything done today. Be kind to yourself. You deserve it.
N.B.: Some details are intentionally left out to safeguard the wishes of associated individuals.
N.B.B.: Keep it shoved in your earholes âtil the very end for sneak peeks. ;)
insta: @lostandfoundto
https://lostandfoundto.com/
Cool Things:
Alexieâs:
Running to podcasts
Shannonâs:
Puzzles + Onesies
Calesâ:
@thesweatspot
@ryan.heffington
Justinâs:
App: Routines by Care/of
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This interview was recorded on May 19, 2020
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TW: spirituality; therapy; reframing obstacles and pain as gifts and opportunities for growth (on a large scale); feeling 'crazy'; triggers in general.
Weâre all about personal growth. Sometimes, therapyâs a part of that. For Cales, that means running, meditating, spending a third of her budget on crystals and soul-talk; for Justin, itâs pasta.
But what's in a soul? Has anyone ever been able to aptly describe a soul? Heck, nah. Does that stop us from trying to deconstruct it in this episode? Also, nah. We interview Naranjan Nota â a spiritual intuitive â to try to understand what it means to âget deeperâ and learn common issues her clients are facing in their days of isolation.
Cool Things:
Calesâ:
Disconnecting from social media (hypocritically, of course)
Justinâs:
Beautiful homemade postcards
Connect with Naranjan:
https://brightshininglight.com/
https://www.instagram.com/naranjan.nota/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/naranjannota/
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N.B.: This interview was recorded on May 27, 2020.
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Itâs friends like these that make us miss being in each otherâs personal presence that much more and also friends like these that remind us what presence even means â as actors, as producers, as creative forces of nature. Four of BDB Productionsâ team members â Franckie Francois, Lovell Adams-Gray, Â Adrian Walters, and Emmanuel Ofori â join us to share how they came together as actors in times of strife and began finding their own individual voices as well as that of their collective to tell underrepresented stories. They talk about their first steps as new producers, what the production landscape looks like in a rapidly changing industry with new COVID-19 related safety measures and regulations, shining light on the Black Lives Matter conversation and presenting different voices within the black community through their art, balancing self-belief and faith in something greater, and finding their tribe that made all the difference in moving forward. Everything culminates in a heated debate that we all turn over to you, the audience. To help us settle the debate, share your voice at https://anchor.fm/wtnok/message.
COOL THINGS:
Lovellâs:
"Da 5 Bloods" from Spike Lee (Netflix)
"The Autobiography of Malcolm X" by Alex Haley (dictated by Malcolm X)
"Revolutionary Suicide" by Huey P. Newton
Autobiography of Marcus Garvey
"The Wretched of the Earth" by Frantz Fanon
"Lost cities of Africa" by Basil Davidson
Adrianâs:
Meditation with Insight Timer
Taoism/Daoism
Franckâs:
"Tokyo Ghoul" written and illustrated by Sui Ishida
"The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom" by Don Miguel Ruiz
Mannyâs:
"The Five Love Languages" by Gary Chapman
Calesâ:
"so what?"
Justinâs:
BDB Productions (& being on top of proper plugs)
FOLLOWS:
BDB Productions
bdbproductionsinc.com
Franckie Francois
insta: @franckiefrancois
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm7551309/
Lovell Adams-Gray
insta: @lovelladamsgray
Adrian Walters
insta: @AdrianWalters_
twitter: Adrian Walters
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5044769/
Emmanuel Ofori
insta: @doitfortheculture1
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6369481/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
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Weâre still isolating. So, we Zoomâd with Calesâ good pal Navin Ramaswaran â director, editor, classic cocktail consumer extraordinaire â to chat about post-set blues, how he chooses his creative teams and prepares as both a commercial and narrative film director, and how he celebrated his 40th birthday in isolation with a bartender wife! Yâalso get to hear just how gross some of Calesâ shut-in meals have been and, honestly, itâs wholly due to laziness -- she had proper meal foods.
Cool Things:
Navinâs:
Siiiiiiick Harley Quinn graphic tee from TeeFury.com
Frequency IMDb link (Love how Cales called it a father-daughter flick, when it's about the son. We remember what we want đ€·đ»ââïž)
Filmmaker Oriol Paulo (Films to check on flix: âThe Invisible Witnessâ and âMirageâ)
Calesâ:
Art of Being Yourself by Caroline McHugh
Justinâs:
Dump card. Whatâs a dump card? Ohhhh, baby. Listen. Listen, Linda! (And check out our IG story for visual aids.)
Mom-made Calvin and Hobbes birthday painting
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Anybody up for tea? This week we're jumping across the pond and talking to Carly Holt about her experience moving from Toronto Ontario to London England. She opens up about never settling for less than perfect and the challenges of leaving behind the opportunities you have while starting fresh.Â
This episode was recorded over a video chat thanks to COVID! We've been working hard to keep content from a number of perspectives coming to your ear holes, so please don't mind the short delays or lack of studio quality. We love these convos. We love these people. And we want to share them no matter which pandemic gets in the way.Â
ONE COOL THINGS
Carly: selective consumption (you don't HAVE to watch the tiger king)
Cales: Visualization andÂ
Justin: Gratitude Journal/Bullet Journal
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From a young age, Erin envisioned her future self as a blooming Bettie Page. Today, you can not only catch her in stunning pin-up photos, sheâs on-stage, behind the camera, and regularly on the mic with her own Sonar Network podcast The Bed Post Podcast. This past weekend, you may have caught Cales and Justin guesting over there. Now, we give you the other half of our conversation about sex, kink, comedy and more with Toronto performer, producer, sex worker Erin Pim. We learn BeyoncĂ© is the answer to protecting your sex vids, BBC doesnât always stand for the British Broadcasting Corporation, and that you can catch a supportive community of Toronto doms getting their park on some weekends to play with their non-human dogs.
One Cool Things
Erinâs:
Sex worker support network Â
comeasyouare.com
Calesâ:
Man in Polyester, 1980 by Mapplethorpe Penis
https://i8.is/m/exhibitions/120/works/artworks7742/
Justinâs:
Sex toys are an essential service!!! You're welcome!
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Did we interview one of Caleighâs exes? Did we shove a joke-a-minute into this new favourite episode? Is this one big sponsored ad for Whirlpool? MOSTLY, NO. ONE-AND-A-HALF YESES. (But actually sponsored by the dating app, Hiii.)
Weâve been holding out on you â David Elmaleh stopped by near the beginning of this year and we kept him all to ourselves all this time because HEâS SO FAHKING GREAT. But, like, fine. Weâll share.
David opens up about depression, taking pills, crossing lines with comedy and entertains ALL đđœ DAY đđœ LONG đđœ. It also warms our hearts because there is no mention of the coronavirus⊠oops, until just that then there now. Meh! Thisâll distract you! (But then go educate yourself and wear an effing mask.)
SHOVE IT IN YER EARHOLES.
Cool Things:
Justinâs:
Cheese Chocolate? Whatever you enjoy, DO IT. HAVE IT. LIVE IT.
Calesâ:
Looping Cellist Raphael Weinroth-Browne
https://www.instagram.com/raphcello/
Davidâs:
Sabrina the Teenage Witch, the original TV series! (Donât ruin it by watching that new shit.)
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This episode is sponsored by Hiii, the dating app with icebreaker games and quizzes for creative, interesting people. We even made a quiz for it (so fun)! Take our hilariously merrymaking quiz at hiii.com/notok.
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The world is a freaky place. Like REALLY freaky. Instead of spending half an hour adding to your Covid anxiety, we're talking about another reason to lock your doors and say goodbye to the sun: stalkers. Much like Covid, you'd rather not have it, and if that means social isolation for a few weeks, then so be it. How do we behave with social media? Or when your place of work is listed on a public linked in? Learn about some of our creepy experiences and the takeaways (along with professional advice) that you should probably know. Just in case.Â
Meh. Lifeâs short. đłđ€·đ»ââïž
Professional Resources:
Canadian Resource Centre For Victims of Crime
Call: 1-877-232-2610
Text: 1-613-208-0747
crcvc.ca
American Centre for the National Victims of Crime
mailto:info@victimsofcrime.org
victimsofcrime.org
Victim Connect Resource Centre (North America)
1-855-484-2846
www.VictimConnect.org
Domestic Violence Hotline
1-800-799-7233
If you are in immediate danger, CALL 911
Stalking Awareness
https://www.stalkingawareness.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Safety-Strategies.pdf
CBC News Article:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-to-do-if-youre-being-stalked-advice-from-an-expert/
COOL THINGS:
JVLâs
The resources we mentioned exist, and you can literally walk through them with a step-by-step guide.
Calesâ
Say no.
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