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Chris Spangle Show - We Are Libertarians Podcast Network

Chris Spangle Show - We Are Libertarians Podcast Network

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Our goal at the Chris Spangle Show is to help you sound smarter while talking to your friends. If you struggle to understand politics, we explain it from an independent, libertarian perspective with all of the irreverence it deserves. We toss out the screaming heads, put people before political parties, and give context to the news to make you think. Our host is Chris Spangle, a fifteen-year veteran of politics and media. Founded in 2012 as We Are Libertarians.

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528 Episodes
Learn Libertarianism -  Subscribe to the podcast - • "Of Two Evils, Choose Neither" Pastor CH Spurgeon • Isn't it ironic that both duopoly parties who sell voters a utopia of perfection, riches, and paradise, still preach that to get there, you must first compromise your morals and accept their largely flawed, or at the minimum highly imperfect candidate. • Does this sound like the starting point for the world they claim to be able to achieve? If you believe so much of your livelihood is dependent on who the President of the United States is, that inherently means that the Office of the President is MUCH too powerful. • Unless you believe this is your last ever election on this earth, voting to give the duopoly candidate more power will only leave you with a worse choice 4 years down the line, this is why both parties pitch the line that "This election is too important" to: vote your conscience, express your true voice, reject both parties and stay home, or demand a better choice. So suck it up, hold your breath, vote for their candidate and your life will magically be improved. • If enough people in any one state vote third-party that that thin Gold line on CNN/Fox/MSNBC says 2%,5%,10%, this wakes up the whole country to the possibility of an alternative and starts a narrative that the duopoly lives in constant fear of, free will and alternatives. Why can't this be your state, and why can't you be a part of it? Especially if your state is solidly Red or Blue anyway and your vote will have no impact on the result. • Change takes courage. • A vote belongs to you and not another party. If these two parties do not represent you then an L vote will register as a visible, measurable protest against them. It says “there’s a market for these ideas.” • Exit polls are considered the most reliable of all polling. It often shows that a candidate will pull small amounts evenly from the other two parties, but the vast majority of votes are from independents, first-time voters, or re-activated voters that now see an option on their ballot that represents them. • The electoral college means your vote is negligible due to gerrymandering. So really, what have you got to lose? Dystopia by Luke Hall Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music promoted by Audio Library Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
When looking back after a few months, how will you know if your time and effort were worth it? How will you judge success? Will it be in the number of downloads? New influence and connections in your network? A second income? Understanding your own motivations and goals will shape your content and it is important to understand it before you begin.  Be sure to grab your guide to launching a podcast here: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
In a wild week, the debt ceiling was raised amidst talk of permanently abolishing the debt ceiling. Additionally, Facebook had its embarrassing flaws exposed in a Congressional testimony while the site went down for a few hours. Join special guest host Tricia Stewart and the WAL gang as they dig into these issues in a week full of juicy economic and social dilemmas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Learn Libertarianism -  Subscribe to the podcast - Video - • Well let's define "win". Win in the sense of receive the most electoral votes in a national Presidential election? No, there is an infinitesimally small chance the Libertarian candidate beats the Republican or Democratic candidate for President. This race is generally viewed as a marketing tool to explain broader libertarian concepts as a result. The best evidence may be the interest of the listener tuning in because it is a Presidential year. • This being said, the Libertarian Party's job at a national level as a minority party is to use its support and voice to impact duopoly party policy in a way that expands individual freedoms and limits government interference. • From this perspective, there are "wins" to be had in working with both parties. On a local level, any candidate can win an election, and given the old adage "all politics is local" it's crucial to have • Liberty-minded candidates on a local level to prove our party's ability to govern. • There are many Libertarians serving in government in local races. - • One other benefit of a third party is the impact of a candidate on the eventual victor. For example, in 2012, when Rupert Boneham ran for Governor of Indiana as Libertarian, one of his platform planks was expanding school choice into vocational training. The eventual victor, Mike Pence, tested the idea, it polled well, and he adopted it and ran campaign commercials on it. As governor, he enacted the policy. • Do converted Congressmen count as wins? Justin Amash or Laura Ebke? - Any action that expands awareness of the Libertarian movement, and advances our overall goal of Liberty in our Lifetime is a win. Justin & Laura have had an immeasurable positive impact on our party and that goal, and we hope more sitting representatives and Senators, and local government officials, begin to act their conscience and identify with their true ideology in declaring for the Libertarian Party. The more willing to do it, the more publicly acceptable it instantly becomes. Social proof is a powerful concept. Dystopia by Luke Hall Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music promoted by Audio Library Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Learn Libertarianism -  Subscribe to the podcast - Video - • When it comes to the national Presidential debates, they are run by a Bipartisan (again not NON-partisan) Committee on Presidential Debates, formed on the (Bipartisan) National Commission on Elections goal of explicitly "turning over responsibility and sponsorship for the debates to the two major political parties", again, the duopoly assigns itself control of election "fairness". • This was in direct response to the 1980 presidential election where third parties took over 8% of the vote and backfired in 1992 when Ross Perot took almost 20% of the popular vote as an Independent. • The CPD is the definition of shady politics, as it sells sponsorships to the major corporate interests, signs secret memorandums of understanding with the duopoly candidates, has confirmed they share questions/topics with campaigns in advance, has 6 secretive donors who no American is able to know the identity of, maintains government tax-exempt status while not doing any of the required non-profit work necessary to retain that title, has detained a major party candidate for 8 hours after she attempted to access the debate stage, and has private, unidentified funding for the constant barrage of lawsuits by Americans who want a fair election. • The best thing to do here is challenging the sponsors, as three major corporate interests ended their sponsorship in 2012 after public pressure due to non-inclusionary tactics preventing third party voices from participating. In 2020, the corporate sponsors include Anheuser-Busch, AARP, The Howard G. Buffett Foundation, The Kovler Fund, The National Governors Association, and Philips. • The board includes several career government workers, former politicians, corporate and special interest CEOs, former media executives, College Deans & Presidents, and former political party chairs, aka no one with any incentive to ever consider a third-party voice. Dystopia by Luke Hall Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music promoted by Audio Library Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
This Is Why It's Personal

This Is Why It's Personal


This week, we're sharing personal stories about government overreach in our lives. We spend a lot of time standing up for others, but it's our own experiences that make us see the importance of liberty for all. Join guest host Hodey and the WAL crew as they get personal. Audience comments and questions will be taken, so please join in on the discussion! To help Suzanne Afolabi and her family, please visit this link: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Learn Libertarianism -  Subscribe to the podcast - Video - • The "NAP" or Non-Aggression Principle is the belief that initiating or threatening any forceful interference against an individual, their property, or their right to liberty is morally wrong. While many libertarians vary on their definition or forceful interference, property, when/how to apply the NAP, and proper responses to an aggressor, the movement is largely built on the defining principle, which boils down to "don’t hurt people and don’t take their stuff". It is in contrast to Pacifism in that it allows a forceful defense. • Mary Ruwart in her book Healing Our World calls this the Good Neighbor Policy. "Therefore, our program for peace had two parts: 1. honesty, tolerance, and respect towards others and their property (i.e. refraining from threatening first-strike force, theft, or fraud); and 2. repairing any damage we caused by violating the first part. We will refer to this dual approach of honoring our neighbor's choice and righting our wrongs as the practice of "nonaggression," the Good Neighbor Policy, or libertarianism." Dystopia by Luke Hall Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0 Free Download / Stream: Music promoted by Audio Library Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Learn Libertarianism -  Subscribe to the podcast - Video - Just start! Most feel they need a master class in political science to work on campaigns. On-the-job training is the most effective way to learn.  Find a candidate that shares your value and contact their campaign to get involved.  Basic volunteering like envelope stuffing, door knocking, yard sign distribution, or phone banking are a good start.  Don't take on too much. Sometimes a small campaign will ask a new person to be a campaign manager. This can lead to volunteer frustration and you'll burn out quickly. While campaign work can be uncomfortable or time-consuming, it shouldn't be frustrating. Also check out our training podcast called Upward - Libertarian Activism.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
The Right to Repair

The Right to Repair


Harry Price, Rhinehold, and Vincent Cooper discuss the right to prepare, a concept asking if the owner of a piece of property like a phone or tractor has the right to repair their own device. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Learn Libertarianism -  Subscribe to the podcast - Video - It is both! Libertarianism focuses on extending personal morality and ethics into societal organization. In other words, we want communities to follow the same rules we were taught as kids: Don't hit others, don't take their stuff, and don't lie or cheat.  Unfortunately, government is organized around the premise that these things are ok if enough people agree. If voters collectively decide to murder or steal from other individuals with 51% of the vote, then they believe the morality changes. Libertarians don't.  So enacting these values requires a mindset shift. It requires a mental shift for individuals that have lived under a different paradigm their entire lives.  The more one examines their values through this new way of thinking, the more empowering the ideology becomes. As individuals begin to think about taking responsibility for their own lives and communities, they get excited about the opportunities this new path affords.  One small example of this is the shopping cart. After purchasing items at a store, people will head to the their car in the parking lot and unload groceries. Once the cart is empty, a person faces a choice. They can leave the cart in the middle of the parking spot to inconvenience both the next parker and the employee corralling carts. Or they can put the cart in the corral and maintain order.  Most put their carts away, but some don't. The market has a fix for these "bad actors." Most stores employ a coraller. Other stores like Aldis use financial incentives to persuade individuals to act in a responsible manner.  Suppose stores hired an armed security guard to threaten any person not returning the cart. Would this make the relationship between customer and store more or less tense? Would it cost the store business? The answer is yes.  Government operates this way. It rejects the peaceful path used by an Aldi and monopolizes force. In other words, it puts all other stores out of business or takes them over and standardizes the more violent approach.  Libertarianism advocates for the original peaceful path by reminding individuals of their personal responsibilities, their right to be left alone, and providing solutions to handle complex problems.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
The Legacy of 9/11

The Legacy of 9/11


September 11th radically shaped the future of America, and deeply impacted me personally. Harry Price, Rhinehold, and I discuss why Osama Bin Laden attacked us, what happened on that day, and why is the legacy of our response. If we are to properly remember 9-11, we need to drop the hollow patriotic sentiment and learn from the period now known as the "Terror Years." Click here for my recommended Documentaries and Books - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
President Joe Biden announced new COVID-related initiatives and mandates, including instructions to OSHA to require vaccine mandates and regular testing of companies with over 100 employees. Listen as I give you the details and my thoughts on this. Biden’s Vaccine Push: What You Need to Know - Biden Asks OSHA to Order Vaccine Mandates at Large Employers - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Learn Libertarianism -  Subscribe to the podcast - Video - What is the single greatest thing about liberty? This answer probably varies for every individual, but mine (Chris Spangle) is the beauty of spontaneous order. Order comes from markets adjusting to the needs of individuals as judged by the price system (or what someone will pay for something). This order is displayed by geese flying in a V or people managing a roundabout without incident.  The classic parable of the efficiency of the marketplace is Leonard Reed's I, Pencil. A pencil is made up of many parts from around the world to solve a simple problem: the need to write things down. No one person invented the pencil. It developed over time with each generation evolving and improving it.  Men and women around the world contribute cedar, lacquer, graphite, ferrule, factice, pumice, wax, and glue. They add the labor necessary to make it work. Numerous people are involved in the process, including people like the sweeper in the factory and the lighthouse keeper guiding the shipment into port.  He writes:  "There is a fact still more astounding: The absence of a master mind, of anyone dictating or forcibly directing these countless actions which bring me into being. No trace of such a person can be found. Instead, we find the invisible hand at work. The lesson I have to teach is this: Leave all creative energies uninhibited. Merely organize society to act in harmony with this lesson. Let society's legal apparatus remove all obstacles the best it can. Permit these creative know-hows freely to flow. Have faith that free men and women will respond to the Invisible Hand. This faith will be confirmed." What is the greatest flaw of liberty? The greatest flaw I have found are two-fold:  It is a pretty big paradigm shift to ask people to trust their fellow man in a market-based system, especially in a low trust society.  Libertarians, like all humans, are imperfect messengers and often fail at communicating the message in a way that helps close that trust gap. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
One thing matters in producing a podcast: How do you serve your audience and give them value? In this episode, I talk a little bit about the importance of starting with a mission statement first as opposed to the technical concerns of producing the podcast. Be sure to grab your guide to launching a podcast here: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Honestly, this isn't an episode teaching you anything... It's more a discussion on the frustration of being stuck in the middle of two sides of crazy in an effort to not feel like we are the only ones thinking this stuff. WAL Plus Member Joe Benavidez joins Harry Price, Rhinehold, and me.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Enjoy this special preview episode of my History of Modern Politics podcast with Matt Wittlief. Listen to all of the episodes now at  William the Conqueror has taken the throne of England, and the consequences for the English are severe. Once he passes away, things deteriorate until Henry I takes the throne and unites Anglo-Norman and Anglo-Saxon England. Without an heir, the country descends into "the anarchy" upon his death, and we look forward to the House of Plantagenet.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Learn Libertarianism -  Subscribe to the podcast - Video - Visit your state's Election Board website or got to There are registration deadlines, so you'll want to do it ASAP.  Deadlines exist so the voter data can be processed and ready for poll workers on Election Day. Some states have same-day voter registration, but it is rare. I oppose it due to fraud concerns.  Once you register, you'll get a voter ID card or letter in the mail. It is always a good idea to call your county clerk or election board to verify your polling location. Sometimes they will shift it days before Election Day due to scarce resources.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Starting a podcast takes some forethought. Without it, a new podcaster can waste a lot of money and both the time of the hosts and the audience. In this episode, I set up the next few episodes by previewing the stages of podcasting and the fundamental questions that need to be addressed at the beginning of a new show.  Download the PDF here: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
The CDC Eviction Moratorium

The CDC Eviction Moratorium


Rhinehold, Tricia Stuart-Mann, and I take a look at the CDC eviction moratorium and its effects on the rental markets. Also, homeownership is a cult. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Rob Quartel and Chris Spangle discuss the withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Comments (11)

Jenadele VW

This is spot on and everything I have been thinking and saying since trump came on the scene. The republican party hypocrisy is astounding especially among Christians. Also if we can't say BLM as libertarians what the hell are we doing?! We should be fighting so hard for ANYONE who does not have equal freedoms. Thank you for this podcast and awesome job 👏👏👏

Nov 15th

Addison Cavanaugh

Why is this podcast not more popular? This all seems like common sense to me. You're doing fantastic work and I'm doing my best to share.

Jul 1st

Clayton Adrian

hopefully you were kidding or making fun of trumps tweet when congratulating Kansas and not Missouri since the chiefs are based in Missouri.

Feb 7th

Shannon OC

Chris - I'm sad to see this show go. I only recently came to the realization that I've been eating up Leftist propaganda as truth for most of my life, and after several weeks of research and meditation, I came out the other side a Libertarian. I think what you're offering is important and sorely lacking in today's highly polarized world. It's hard to see where the truth is, when you're fed half stories colored with a particular narrative through most of the "news" and media behemoths. This show has had a tremendous impact on me in a very short period of time, and I really appreciate the effort and passion you sew into each episode. So anyway, thank you, and God speed. I can't wait to hear your next project.

Jul 7th

Bennett D

In the words of Viktor Frankl - "a man's suffering is similar to the behavior of a gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering is great or little. Therefore the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative."

Jun 20th

Bennett D

So what I'm getting is this: Mutualism: Good for running companies Capitalism: Good for running countries

Jun 3rd


That's not what a smart power grid is. You guys need to get some real scientists and engineers on here. Jesus. I literally work in the oil industry and the second half of this episode was still cringeworthy.

Feb 22nd


Not sure why for-profit corporations, non-profit corporations, and unions are all being discussed as if they serve the public good equivalently. Serving shareholders vs. serving employees imply very different intentions for influencing elections.

Feb 7th

Van C.

Wow. This was so ignorant. Unsubscribing.

Jan 4th

Jesse Fischer

can we move WAL daily to a separate feed? It's as if my favorite Mexican place decided to serve Mexican food only on Fridays. I drive by it every day, and sometimes it's Italian day or Chinese day or Peruvian day, and that food is fine, but I really just want to go on Fridays for the fare I fell in love with.

Nov 16th

Baked Apple Pie 420

Do you realize that it took 20 minutes before you got to the first topic? That's entirely too long... especially when you speak about such hyper specific stuff for the first block.. I tend to just start your show halfway through an episode because I have no idea how long you will tell us the same self promo pitch for at least 15 minutes. Content please.

Jun 15th
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