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315. Grief: How to Move Through Losing a Friend with Sloane Crosley CW: Discussion of suicide  Abby and Glennon welcome New York Times bestselling author Sloane Crosley. Sloane shares her experience of losing her dear friend to suicide and the grief journey she went on in the aftermath. The conversation explores handling loss, the nuances of friendship, humor in the face of sorrow, and living in the present moment. Discover:  -Whether the desire to give meaning to a death helps or hurts the grieving process; -What NOT to say after someone dies by suicide and what might help;  -The place of humor in grief: when it’s useful and when it’s a coverup; and -The reason you have every right to deeply grieve a friend and the pain of grief hierarchies.  About Sloane:  Sloane Crosley is the New York Times bestselling author of the new memoir Grief Is for People; the novels Cult Classic and The Clasp; and three essay collections: Look Alive Out There, I Was Told There’d Be Cake, and How Did You Get This Number. She lives in New York City. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

314. Jealousy: Glennon & Abby Share It All  Glennon and Abby candidly discuss their personal experiences with jealousy. They explore how jealousy manifests, its implications on their connection, and the steps they've taken toward understanding and addressing it. Discover: -Abby and Glennon’s jealousy origin stories; -Abby’s confession to Glennon about her jealousy; -Why self trust might be the key to overcoming jealousy; and -How Glennon and Abby protect each other’s hearts AND wounds in their relationship. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

313. How to Turn a Mistake into Magic with Suleika Jaouad Glennon speaks one-on-one with the brilliant Suleika Jaouad about Suleika's journey through the messy middle – living well in a body that does not feel well, and creating a life of beautiful defiance. Discover:  Why believing we should “Live everyday like our last” is unhelpful; Why the unproductive periods of life are *actually* where you do the most work; The specific, best ways to really show up for friends who are in the messy middle;  How to alchemize your pain into creativity; and The lessons we can all learn from Jellyfish   Suleika Jaouad is the author of the instant New York Times bestselling memoir, Between Two Kingdoms. She wrote the Emmy Award-winning New York Times column “Life, Interrupted,” and her reporting and essays have been featured in the New York Times Magazine, The Atlantic, Vogue, and NPR, among others. A highly sought-after speaker, her TED Talk – “What Almost Dying Taught Me About Living” – has nearly five million views. She is also the creator of The Isolation Journals, a community creativity project founded during the pandemic to help others convert isolation into artistic solitude. IG: @suleikajaouad To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

312. Potholes & Productive Conflict in Relationships with Abby & Glennon Abby and Glennon answer ALL of your relationship questions. We get into juicy topics like how to fight better, the balance of individuation and connection in relationships, and how to take ownership of your own feelings vs. judging your partner’s behaviors.  Discover:  -What introverts and extroverts have to learn from each other and how they can be in a relationship effectively; -Abby and Glennon’s unbelievable golf cart fight and tips on how to have more productive conflicts;  -How to let go of the need to control someone else; and -What Abby means when she says, “woof.” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

311. Post Diagnosis: Glennon & Abby Reflect and Decide What Needs to Change  Glennon and Abby reflect on the dynamics of love, control, and support in relationships in the wake of Amanda’s diagnosis.  Discover:  -The simple sentence that Tish said to Glennon that shattered her reality; -Glennon’s creative way of reading books & what it has to do with controlling others; and -Why Glennon didn’t speak for a week after finding out sister’s diagnosis & what it felt like inside. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

310. Amanda’s Diagnosis & What’s Next (Pt. 2)  In Part 2, Amanda shares more from the messy middle of her breast cancer diagnosis. She talks candidly about her hopes, fears, and what she has realized really matters.  To listen to the first part of our conversation with Amanda, click here: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

309. Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1)  Amanda shares the news about her health and what’s next for her healing. Amanda, Glennon, and Abby go into the tactical, philosophical and emotional aspects of this diagnosis and all share how they’re feeling about it and working through it at this moment. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

308. Brittney Griner On Coming Home & Recovering From Trauma  Glennon and Abby talk with athlete, humanitarian, activist–and one of the bravest people they’ve met–Brittney Griner. Brittney discusses her harrowing experience in the Russian prison system, as well as her basketball career, recovering from trauma, and her excitement over becoming a parent.  Discover:  -Why she went to Russia in the first place – and the gender pay gap in women’s sports;  -Her first thought as she stepped foot on American soil after her time in a Russian penal colony; -How she feels about America now that she’s back; and  -How she reconciled her relationship with her dad after having a tough time coming out  About Brittney:  BRITTNEY GRINER is a pioneer, humanitarian, and activist and was named as one of TIME magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in 2023. Griner is an NCAA champion, a WNBA champion, and a two-time Olympic gold medalist. Winner of the Best Female Athlete ESPY Award, and a nine-time WNBA All-Star, Griner is one of the most decorated and influential athletes of this generation. IG: @brittneyyevettegriner To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

307. Healing From Complex PTSD with Stephanie Foo Abby, Amanda and Glennon are joined by author and radio producer, Stephanie Foo. They discuss Stephanie’s memoir, What My Bones Know, and her journey healing from Complex PTSD.  Discover:  -The difference between Trauma, PTSD and complex PTSD;  -What “THE DREAD” is and how to know if you have it;  -Why if the trauma is relational, the healing has to be relational, too, and what that means, in-action; and  -Whether you can ever truly give what you never got as a parent.  CW: Discussion of physical and verbal abuse and neglect. About Stephanie: Stephanie Foo is a writer and the author of the New York Times bestseller, WHAT MY BONES KNOW: A Memoir of Healing from Complex Trauma. She is also a radio producer, most recently for This American Life. Her work has aired on Snap Judgment, Reply All, 99% Invisible, and Radiolab. A noted speaker and instructor, she has taught at Columbia University and has spoken at venues from Sundance Film Festival to the Missouri Department of Mental Health. She lives in New York City. IG: @foofoofoo To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

306. The Truth of OCD: Therapist Alegra Kastens on Living with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Therapist Alegra Kastens shares the truth about her lived experience with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) that is vital for all of us to understand. Detailing her own struggle, and work as an OCD specialist, Alegra helps demystify the relentless cycle of ego-dystonic, intrusive thoughts, anxiety, and compulsions that define this often-misunderstood and under-diagnosed disorder – sharing why so many people have OCD and do not know it, and ways to support people with OCD without enabling and reinforcing the compulsions. CW: Discussion of intrusive sexual and violent thoughts as well as suicidal ideation. About Alegra: Alegra Kastens is a licensed therapist, OCD specialist, writer, and the founder of the Center for OCD, Anxiety, and Eating Disorders in New York City. Fueled by lived experience with a lesser-known manifestation of OCD, education and advocacy about OCD are at the forefront of her career. IG: @AlegraKastens TikTok: @AlegraKastens To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

305. How to Self-Regulate, Heal Your Relationships & Accept That You’ll Never Be Finished  As we continue the discussion on Busyness, Amanda, Glennon & Abby share more of their thoughts about the cult of Busyness – how buying into it shows up in you and your relationships, and how it leads to dysregulation and dissatisfaction in all areas of life. We go through the signs that might indicate you’re too busy and burnt out, how to know the difference between building a life and living a life, and why dysregulation can be a breadcrumb toward healing. Discover:  -Why the addiction of busyness will never be pointed out or helped by most people;  -Why Abby says the idea of retirement is the greatest heist in human history; and -The emotional breakdown Amanda had, which led to starting her healing journey. Also check out: 304. Break Up with Busyness & Let Go of Your To-Do List 281. How Amanda Finally Calmed Her Brain & Her Letter from Love with Liz Gilbert  261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell 139. No More Grind: How to Finally Rest with Tricia Hersey 93. BURNOUT: Do You Feel Half Alive? with Emily and Amelia Nagoski To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

304. Break Up with Busyness & Let Go of Your To-Do List Amanda delves into her relationship with Busyness and how she’s working through it. We’ll touch on topics such as the pervasive culture of busyness, productivity as a measure of self-worth, and the struggle to define personal boundaries and prioritize genuine happiness (after some hilarious banter between Glennon and Abby about how to deal with “disgusting” things in a relationship). Discover:  -Why Busyness is such a pervasive and oppressive cult for so many of us; -How to decouple your self-esteem and identity from your productivity; -The actionable tactic Amanda is using in her break up with Busyness; and -How your pets prove that the religion of busyness is a lie.  Check out these episodes, too: 281. How Amanda Finally Calmed Her Brain & Her Letter from Love with Liz Gilbert  261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell 139. No More Grind: How to Finally Rest with Tricia Hersey 93. BURNOUT: Do You Feel Half Alive? with Emily and Amelia Nagoski To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

303. Laziness Does Not Exist with Devon Price  Why are we so scared of laziness? How have we been convinced to tie our worthiness to busy-ness and how do we STOP and create lives we are excited to live? Social psychologist and author, Devon Price, teaches us how we got bamboozled and sets us free from the Laziness Lie. Discover: -How to rest, reorient priorities, and say “No” to reclaim our time and energy and avoid burnout. -Glennon asks Devin her favorite question: “What the hell is gender?” -The importance of listening to dread and recognizing when something doesn’t feel right. -Why resenting others for not doing enough often indicates that you're doing too much.  Plus, Devon shares an exercise for reflecting on the moments when you felt most yourself and aligned with your values – in order to create more meaningful life experiences. About Devon: Devon Price, PhD, is a social psychologist, professor, author, and proud Autistic person. His books include Unmasking Autism and Laziness Does Not Exist. His forthcoming book, Unlearning Shame, will be released in February 2024. Devon’s research has appeared in journals such as the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, and the Journal of Positive Psychology. Devon’s writing has appeared in the Financial Times, HuffPost, The Los Angeles Times, Business Insider, and on PBS, NPR, MSNBC, and the BBC. He lives in Chicago, where he serves as an assistant professor at Loyola University Chicago’s School of Continuing and Professional Studies. TW: @drdevonprice IG: @drdevonprice To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Glennon shares an encore conversation that she and Abby had with their favorite person and co-host: Amanda Doyle! This episode, originally titled, How to Face Your Biggest Fear with Amanda Doyle, examines the relationships, decisions, and travels that led Amanda to today – from hitchhiking across Ireland, to prosecuting child sex offenders in Rwanda, to making the biggest decision of her life in an Ethiopian airport – they dive into Amanda’s lifelong fear of the ordinary. About Amanda: Amanda Doyle is Glennon Doyle’s Business Manager and co-host of the We Can Do Hard Things podcast with her sister Glennon Doyle and sister-in-law Abby Wambach. She is Vice President, General Counsel, and a member of the Together Rising Board of Directors. In these roles, Amanda is responsible for overseeing and advising on legal matters, including risk management, policy development, and programmatic affairs, as well as cultivating new initiatives and relationships to strengthen the organization’s impact. A former attorney at the law firm of Hogan Lovells and Legal Fellow with International Justice Mission, Amanda lives in Falls Church, Virginia with her husband and two children. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

302. Chelsea Handler on Happiness, Groundedness & the Upcoming Election Chelsea Handler is back to join Glennon, Amanda, and Abby for a heartfelt and hilarious conversation about life. She tells us how she found her happiness, how to take accountability in your own life, and why – if she has to confront someone doing something WILD or offensive – she’s going to have a little fun!  Discover:  -Why being selfish is the ultimate gift we can give to the world and each other;  -The unexpected side-effect Chelsea experienced from therapy and how to move through it if it’s happening to you, too; -Chelsea’s thoughts about how to navigate big feelings during the upcoming election cycle; and  -Chelsea’s story about a stranger on a chairlift and their exchange about Taylor Swift.  For our previous conversation with Chelsea, check out: 115. Chelsea Handler: On Breaking Up & Being Unbreakable About Chelsea Chelsea Handler is a comedian, television host, podcast host, author, and advocate whose humor and candor have established her as one of the most celebrated voices in entertainment and pop culture. Chelsea is the author of six New York Times bestsellers, five of which are #1 bestsellers – including Life Will Be the Death of Me. She hosts the iHeart Radio advice podcast, Dear Chelsea – and her most recent critically acclaimed comedy special, Revolution, is available on Netflix. If you want to see her live, Chelsea is currently on her Little Big Bitch stand-up tour. IG: @chelseahandler To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

301. What You Need To Know to Have More Fun TODAY with Catherine Price  We’re back with Fun Expert and author of, Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price, to talk more about fun: what it is and how to have more of it. Today, we’ll discuss whether fun and productivity can coexist, thoughts about women and fun, and why the right to fun might just be innately connected to the human experience AND activism. Discover:  -The definitive reason why Abby has the MOST fun and how you, too, can use her fun strategy;  -Why fun actually increases creativity and productivity;  -Why people view women having fun as offensive and why we must do it anyway; and  -Actionable tools you can use to invite more fun into your life! Check out the last episode we did with Catherine and these others about fun, too: 301. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price 4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it? 62. The Big Lies & the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos 63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos 216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay On Catherine:  Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times.  IG: @_catherineprice X: @catherine_price To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

300. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price  Pod Squad! Do you remember back in the very first days of the pod when we talked about FUN? It was episode 4. Now, hundreds of episodes later, we’re finally ready to give fun the long, deep dive and consideration it deserves. Abby is excited, Glennon is interested, and Amanda is skeptical, but we’re all here, ready to learn and maybe even to have a little fun. Thankfully, Fun Expert (how cool is that title?) and author of, The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price is here to be our fun ambassador and to teach us all how to draw more fun and fun opportunities into day-to-day life! Discover:  -The difference between real fun and fake fun; -The mental load’s impact on fun; -The three necessary ingredients for fun and how find your “Fun Magnets;” plus -Abby, Glennon, and Amanda’s stand out fun moments and how they plan to create more of that in their lives.   Check out these other episodes, too:  4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it? 62. The Big Lies & the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos 63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos 216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay On Catherine:  Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times.  IG: @_catherineprice X: @catherine_price To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

299. Parenting: How to Nurture Yourself and Others In this episode we’re going deep into parenting. Glennon, Abby, and Amanda (along with the help of Tracee Ellis Ross, Michelle Obama and Dr. Becky Kennedy) discuss the brutiful journey of parenting, reparenting ourselves, and learning how to love and be loved.  Discover:  -Tracee Ellis Ross rejects the lie that a woman’s purpose is to be “chosen” – and what “mothering” means to her -Michelle Obama tells us how to finally live in our own enoughness;  -How to know if you are engaging in “pendulum parenting;” -The #1 strategy for all relationships: REPAIR, with Dr. Becky Kennedy; and  -The moment Abby finally felt lovable.  Check out the full episodes: 12. PARENTING: How do we make this thrilling, terrifying roller coaster ride a little bit easier? 167. Tracee Ellis Ross: How to Make Peace in Your Own Head 13. Brave Parenting Qs & the Power of Saying YES! 193. MICHELLE OBAMA! 267. The #1 Relationship Strategy with Dr. Becky Kennedy 189. Abby for the 1st Time On Divorce & Her Unrequited Love To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

298. How to Survive Your 20s, Abby On Bonus Parenting & IS Anyone TRULY Toxic? Amanda, Glennon and Abby give an update about things they’re thinking about including: Glennon’s favorite memes, Amanda’s realization about leadership in her family, and Abby’s exhaustion turned to joy. Plus, we answer questions from the Pod Squad on surviving your 20s, and how to navigate bonus parenthood. Discover:  -The simple, three-step process that revolutionized the way Amanda thinks about leadership and parenting;  -Abby’s heartfelt advice to a Pod Squader on how to navigate her 20s & why need ALL need it, no matter our age; -Insight into Abby’s journey as a mother & why being in your kid’s memories is everything;  -Glennon’s surprising take on labeling people as “toxic” and what to do instead.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

297. REAL Self-Care: Burnout Is Not Your Fault & the Way Out with Dr. Pooja Lakshmin Psychiatrist Dr. Pooja Lakshmin shows us how to tell the difference between the Faux Self-Care we’ve been sold versus the Real Self-Care we desperately need. Discover:  How to incorporate boundaries through the power of the pause and how to navigate the post-boundary ick with ease; A simple tool to know whether you are being driven by your goals or driven by your values (and how to find and start living by your values today); and Whether you might be in ‘martyr mode,’ and the key to getting out of it.  About Pooja: Dr. Pooja Lakshmin is a board-certified psychiatrist, author, keynote speaker, and a contributor to The New York Times. Her debut book, REAL SELF-CARE: Crystals, Cleanses, and Bubble-Baths Not Included, is an NPR Best Book of 2023 and a national best-seller. Pooja serves as a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry at George Washington University School of Medicine, and maintains an active private practice where she treats women struggling with burnout, perfectionism, and disillusionment, as well as clinical conditions like depression, anxiety and ADHD. She frequently speaks, advises and consults for organizations on mental health and well-being. Pooja writes the weekly Substack newsletter, Real Self-Care.  IG: @poojalakshmin To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices