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Zerion is one of the OG crypto companies, operating since 2016. It started as a tool to do fundraising through token sales.  Then it transformed into a DeFi exploration tool where you could track & invest in different assets. Then it expanded into NFTs & other web3 assets. And a few months ago, they also joined the wallet space and already got 80k+ users. What inspired them to start? Why they made so many pivots? And why they're confident that they can compete in a hard wallet space? I spoke with Evgeny, Zerion's Co-Founder, who shared the backstage perspective of the last 6 years of running Zerion. TIMESTAMPS: 0:38 What’s Zerion and why they pivoted a lot since 2016 2:20 Evgeny experience at Google, with chatbots and with a crypto trading app that got 1M+ downloads 3:59 Why meeting Vitalik inspired them to start Zerion 6:10 How they started as a smart contract developers’ team 7:10 Why the 2019 bear market prompted them to pivot to build a token tracking aggregator 8:30 How a blog post about fundraising inspired them to go to San Francisco to earn funding and get the first users 10:33 Why they entered the aggregators & wallets space, and why are these markets less crowded than Mac thinks 14:05 Why there are so few wallets on the market and why the timing is so important 16:45 Which use cases do they cover with their wallet 19:05 How they designed the wallet so it’s useful both for beginners and more advanced users (Web3 Citizens) 20:52 What was the hardest part about making the wallet multi-chain 21:47 How they want to battle MetaMask and why web3 helps them to do it 25:22 What web3-native marketing tactics such as NFT collections and community-building let them acquire tens of thousands of users 28:32 How does their NFT collection that changes based on your wallet activity work 30:45 Why on-chain information can be a goldmine for marketers 33:42 The vision behind their API, why it’s been used by Rainbow Wallet and StakeDAO, and why having it centralized might be okay 36:05 Why wallet can become an e-mail on steroids 38:19 Why open architecture of web3 makes it better for users 39:35 Why building the wallet was the hardest decision Evgeny had to make while running Zerion 40:45 What would Evgeny build if he wasn’t building Zerion 41:25 Why would he fix privacy with his magic web3 wand 42:25 Which web3 projects he found interesting 45:40 Where to learn more about Zerion 46:30 Ideas for other web3 builders
Moralis joined a pretty crowded web3 infra market in 2020, and it's already become an important player serving projects such as MetaMask and Polygon. How did they do it? I talk with Ivan, Moralis Co-Founder, who shares the backstage perspective of their last 2 years. If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new episode comes out: TIMESTAMPS: 0:38 Who is Ivan & Moralis, and what got him interested in blockchain 3:52 How their web2 experience inspired them to start Moralis 4:40 Why they entered a crowded infrastructure space with many already established players such as Alchemy, Infura & QuickNode 7:25 Why it’s hard to bootstrap infrastructure business and how they leveraged their online education platform to grow it 9:29 How not thinking too much helped them to start and grow 11:29 How their SDK & APIs help developers to better understand on-chain events 14:51 Why their onboarding process has quite a lot of friction 17:50 How they build strong relations with developers via free education, hackathons & Discord 20:27 How their YouTube channel & hackathon helped to acquire their first users 21:30 How they managed to grow the 100% remote company from 0 to 90+ people in 2 years 24:44 How being upfront about their way of working helped them to recruit the right people 27:08 Why cutting down features was hard and what they learned on the way 28:44 How do they decide what to include in their SDKs 29:48 What does he think about centralization risks by using centralized infrastructure 34:03 Why team building was the biggest lesson he learned from running Moralis 37:45 What would he fix about web3 with the magic wand 39:40 What has been the most interesting project he has seen 42:26 Why craziness of the crypto industry makes Ivan laugh 44:14 Where to learn more about Moralis 44:32 Guest ideas
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Dan Romero was employee #20 at Coinbase. After helping to build the company for 5 years, he left Coinbase in 2019 to build an alternative to Twitter with his Coinbase colleague, Varun Srinivasan. This idea transformed into Farcaster - a web3 social network that has become a go-to place for the crypto community in the last few months.  If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new episode comes out: TIMESTAMPS: 00:38 What is Farcaster 1:20 How Dan Romero became employee #20 at Coinbase and what he learned about crypto, and why he left in 2019 4:32 Why RSS lost and how Farcaster started as RSS+ 6:56 Farcaster as a Twitter for crypto people, sufficient decentralized social network, why it’s great for users and developers, and what are parallels to crypto exchanges 12:23 What’s so unique about their user onboarding process, and which parts have been inspired by Coinbase 19:00 How permissionless building inspired the community to build a bot to make onboarding greater 20:25 Why they went for slow growth… just like Facebook 22:44 Why are they more interested in Daily Active Users than sign-up growth 26:29 Special moments that Farcaster delivers and how they designed the app to facilitate them 30:00 Why they don’t have quote tweets 34:15 What apps have already been built on top of Farcaster 37:00 Why developers should be able to create new social experiences 38:39 History of pseudonymous co-creators of the US Constitution 40:00 Why does the growing amount of data inspire people to build apps on top of Farcaster 42:45 How web3 social makes it much easier to start a new social app 45:52 How does Farcaster works technically, and how it’s similar to Domain Name System 51:11 Why they gathered FC developers on Telegram instead of Discord 52:45 What’s the 6 months plan for Farcaster, and what’s their 3 years vision 55:50 How switching clients would help people to “build their own Facebook” 58:24 Where people can learn more about Farcaster
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: ZenGo has been the pioneer in MPC research and the most popular consumer MPC wallet in the world. Ouriel shares the backstage perspective of their early days, acquiring the first users, their product strategy, ClearSign wallet firewall, and marketing activities that led to over 700k users (which is a lot for a wallet!). 0:37 Who’s Ouriel Ohayon and why ZenGo is special 1:03 How Ouriel transformed from a crypto skeptic to a crypto optimist by listening to a podcast episode in 2016 3:10 Ouriel’s story when he didn’t like any wallets on the market and decided to design his own 5:10 How they researched different options and learned they couldn’t get rid of private keys so started researching MPC (Multi Party Computation) and became one of the world’s leaders in that space 10:25 How does MPC work, why it’s different from a traditional wallet security, what trade-offs does it make and why it’s being used by Coinbase, Fireblocks & American banks 18:04 What would happen when ZenGo’s servers go down and how they protect the company from this kind of events 19:53 What’s the difference between MPC and Account Abstraction 23:38 Why Mac would recommend ZenGo to his father 25:13 How have they acquired their first wallet users by marketing cryptopgrahy before they started marketing the wallet and how do they promote it now 30:15 How do they take care of the user’s security & UX 32:46 How do they make money and what are their plans for new services 35:55 How does their ClearSign wallet firewall protects the users from attacks 44:10 Why Mac believes we can solve crypto security 45:10 Why Ouriel thinks of crypto as an early car industry and the story about Elon Musk’s driving McLaren F1 with Peter Thiel 51:15 What were some dead-end streets that they explored 56:06 Why would Ouriel fix gas with his web3 magic wand 59:22 What could be solved in the web3 mobile experience 1:02:40 What made Ouriel smile 1:04:50 Where people can learn more about ZenGo 1:06:09 Guest idea
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: PoolTogether is known as the #1 DeFi protocol that encourages saving. Depositors participate in a lottery-like process where their deposited money can win prizes. But contrary to a lottery - even if they don't win, they keep their money. The luckiest winner ever deposited $73 and won over $43k, reaching a 589X return. How it's possible? How Leighton came up with the idea? How was PoolTogether built, how they got it secured, and how they dealt with the lawsuit?  Here's episode #30: 0:50 What is PoolTogether, and how it encourages saving 2:00 How PoolTogether started as the result of Leighton's research on TradFi tools that make people more wealthy 3:45 How blockchain makes the premium bonds model more transparent and scalable 5:40 How PoolTogether works technically: non-custodial design, integrations with yield sources, random numbers generation, price tiering contracts 9:19 How have they acquired the first users in May 2019? 12:10 Mitigating security risks via reducing attack surface area, no oracle dependencies, non-custodial design, internal testing, bug bounties, investing over $1M in third-party auditors 15:15 How have they educated the market about PoolTogether? 16:56 The story behind Poolies that raised over $1.5M for combating the lawsuit 24:11 At what stage is the lawsuit right now 26:00 What needs to happen for PoolTogether to reach a truly global adoption 21:30 How do they take care of the community 32:03 Why crowdfunding on the blockchain might be a killer app 34:22 What Leighton would fix with his web3 magic wand 36:35 Why MakerDAO & Gearbox blew his mind 38:42 Why was Uniswap airdrop such a magical moment for Leighton 41:20 Where people can learn more about PoolTogether 42:18 Leighton's guest ideas
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: LearnWeb3 in 9 months became one of the most popular places to become a web3 developer for free. In this episode, Haardik tells me about its beginnings, crazy growth, building a 50k+ members community & more. Timestamps: 1:15 How Haardik feels running a 50k+ students course & how it all started 2:15 Does the bear market impact people’s interest in learning web3 development 3:24 How LearnWeb3 started in December 2021 as a way to help a friend learn web3 development 7:40 How they acquired their first users via Haardik’s Indian developer community friends & Kacie’s Twitter followers 10:20 What’s the difference between LearnWeb3 & other coding courses 14:59 How LearnWeb3DAO covers the whole path from beginner to finding a job as a developer 16:30 How their “no stupid questions” attitude & leading with an example helped to build a strong community 19:20 Activities that their community takes 22:03 Why hackathons are harder to organize than most people think 23:42 Why it was hard to integrate quizzes 28:17 Why, after working out Twitter, they started to add more events & other social media platforms 33:18 Why they wouldn’t change too much if they went back in time and started LW3 again 34:32 The reason they haven’t become a DAO yet 38:00 Why if Haardik had a magic wand, he would fix the web3 identity problem 42:36 The story when Haardik interviewed 5 North Korean hackers 51:22 Why he loves old-school projects such as Uniswap, Aave & Gitcoin 52:46 Where you can learn more about LearnWeb3 53:21 His guests' ideas
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If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: WalletConnect is one of the most omnipresent protocols in the web3 space. It’s used by Uniswap, OpenSea, Instagram & 450+ other apps. Today we welcome Pedro Gomes, Co-Founder of WalletConnect, who tells us about the protocol’s history, presence, and future. 1:27 How Pedro ended up in crypto thanks to his fintech experience 3:47 Why MetaMask was revolutionary and how Pedro got inspired to bet on the mobile experience 6:37 How have WalletConnect acquired its first users in 2018 & why was it both easier and harder than starting today 8:25 Why making WalletConnect a neutral brand was so important 9:59 What’s WalletConnect’s product design process? 14:18 How they decided to work on new WalletConnect features and why balancing security & convenience has been so challenging 20:25 How the way they set up WalletConnect let them acquire partners such as Instagram without a business development department 22:17 How Pedro needed to find a common denominator for WalletConnect to build a community around it 24:15 Why transforming WalletConnect into a venture let them speed up the development process & how they built new amazing features in WalletConnect v2 28:50 What’s WalletConnect plan for making money 30:18 What features do wallets miss 32:39 Why Pedro finds cross-chain projects amazing 36:37 His most pleasant web3 memories 38:02 Where to follow WalletConnect 38:40 Pedro’s ideas for guests
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: Code4rena is a project that disrupts the way web3 companies do smart contract audits. Their community-driven approach made them so well-known in the space that OpenSea ran a $1,000,000 security audit contest on their platform. How does their project work? How it started? And how do they grow it? Two out of five Code4rena Co-Founders came to the pod to answer all these questions. Timestamps: 1:55 How Sock & Picnic got into crypto from decentralization & security audit backgrounds 9:35 How is web3 security different than web1 & web2 security, and how does Code4rena help to tackle web3-specific challenges 17:14 How Sock got into Code4rena very early 19:40 How does their security audit contest mechanism makes it easy to get great auditors on board & what are the characteristics of the top auditors 25:23 How the community chooses the judges for the contests 27:45 How they arranged their DAO to work efficiently and not get lost in the chaos 35:34 How have they been acquiring their clients 37:00 Story of their OpenSea $1,000,000 security audit contest 39:04 Do they permit hackers to work on security audits 42:15 Why decentralized security audits might be less vulnerable to exploits than traditional ones 45:44 How they've been balancing their two-sided market 50:39 What would they fix about web3 with their magic wand 53:50 Most mind-blowing web3 projects they've seen 58:43 The funniest things that happened to them 1:02:30 Their guests' ideas 1:06:35 Where you can learn more about code4rena
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: We welcome Twitter anon legend - Bored Elon Musk - who shares his blockchain/web3 gaming expertise and gives a backstage perspective on his new project - BoredBox. If you want to get an e-mail whenever the new episode is out, drop your address here: Timestamps: 2:38 How Hyperloop inspired him to start a Bored Elon Musk account 4:41 How money transfers & running an anon account got him into crypto 7:35 What BoredBox is and how it was inspired by old-school gaming experiences 11:20 What’s the BoredBox business model 13:05 What’s their process that helped to protect their product from NFT flippers 17:00 How game NFTs are similar to gaming experiences from the 90s and today 18:15 How choosing the right segment of gamers helped them acquire users despite the bear market 23:15 How do they curate the right games 25:58 Why so many blockchain gaming models are not sustainable 29:24 How is blockchain gaming evolving 31:30 What’s the most significant difference between regular gaming and blockchain gaming 34:10 Why making your NFT assets like a magic sword usable in multiple games makes more sense than it seems to 36:37 How NFTs unlock new gaming business models 38:39 What are the biggest mistakes and coolest things in web3 gaming 40:28 How games have been onboarding people to new technologies 41:50 What one thing would he fix in web3 44:00 Most mind-blowing web3 projects he has seen 46:51 Where people can learn more about BoredBox 47:35 Ideas for the guests
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: Zapper is one of the most popular crypto apps. And on Thursday, they published the v2, which transformed Zapper from a portfolio tracker into a web3 exploration tool. I talk with Seb about their early days, management & growth tactics, v2, and... art. 1:57 How Seb got disillusioned with finance and started building, which led him to Ethereum, DeFi, and the idea of Zapper 4:25 First days of Zapper and integrations with Uniswap and Synthetix 6:04 How hard it was to query information on-chain 7:13 How Seb came up with the idea of Zapper v2 and why they bet on it 10:54 Zapper as a social media for investors and a better exploration tool than Etherscan 14:27 What’s the process behind Zapper’s slick design 17:18 How they organized Zapper to ship fast 20:20 Why they don’t have QAs in Zapper 21:57 How have they chosen the market to build on 24:55 How networks effects helped them to grow 26:05 How they decided which protocol to integrate and what helped them grow the most 28:20 What NFT and DAO-related user acquisition strategies do they use right now 31:42 Why Seb thinks founders and DeFi protocols focus too much on marketing 33:33 Biggest fuckups they had 35:45 How does Zapper make money 37:58 What would Seb fix about crypto and web3 40:30 Why web3 builders develop a thick skin 41:42 How a metaverse billboard and generative arts inspire him 47:00 What was the most fun web3 thing that happened to Seb 48:20 Crypto Twitter making the Internet fun again 50:23 Where people can find more info about Zapper 51:00 Guest idea - Founder of Interface 52:30 How I found $500 in my Zapper account
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: If you're a Metaverse skeptic, this episode might change your mind. I talked with Anton, whose apps have built metaverse since 2016, so long before this word became popular. And they make $30M/year. How it's possible? Check out the episode! 0:37 Intro 1:27 Quick history of Pocketworlds and HighRise 2:30 How did Anton get into web3, and why did they add web3 to their web2 app making $100M/yr in transaction volume 5:10 How Mac got hooked to HighRise 5:55 Who’s the typical user of Highrise and Everskies apps, and why do they use them? 8:04 Why avatar chats and Second Life didn’t take off and why people might get into metaverse now 11:15 Monoculture vs. Subcultures in the Metaverse 13:08 Why focusing on subcultures might work 14:19 Why their first two apps didn’t work out, and how did they use paid acquisition to get the first HighRise users 17:00 Why their retention curve goes against common knowledge 19:37 How they learned who was the 5% of the most engaged users and why 10% of their employees are former users 21:10 Why web3 is a good fit for their users and how they convinced them 21:35 How they sold out their NFT collection in 30 seconds by making millions of $ and becoming top5 collections on Immutable X despite the UX hurdles 23:40 How Mac realized that Metaverse makes sense 27:20 Metaverse is like Burning Man - focused on self-expression and interactions where you can be who you want to be 29:30 Two methods of letting users generate the content in Highrise and Everskies 32:55 How Anton’s friend makes millions of $ a year by making content in Second Life 34:30 How they want to let people earn revenue and why he’s more interested in this world than Axie Inifity’s model 35:15 How do they make their $30M revenue/year, and how it’s going to change with web3 <36:10 cut how they’re transitioning into web3> 37:40 Is Anton scared about risking their current business model during the transition 39:46 Hardest things about running a consumer app 42:45 Why they didn’t give up despite the two failed projects 43:45 What would Anton fix about web3 46:16 The most mind-blowing projects Anton has seen 48:00 His experience during Axie Infinity summer 49:29 How would he fix Axie Infinity to make it more sustainable 51:05 People spending time vs. spending money on the games 54:27 Guests ideas - people from Immutable X & MiniRoyal FPS game on Solana 55:30 Why it’s hard to transition to a sustainable model for STEPN 56:30 Where people can learn more about PocketWorlds
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: Dennison has been in crypto for over 10 years. He has been heavily involved in DAOs before most people even heard about them. In this episode, he shares lessons from seeing 100s of these organizations. 1:00 How Dennison got into crypto in 2011, why he got hooked, and what he built 4:40 Why he focused on governance and built Tally: From Magic Internet Money to Magic Internet Society 7:51 What does Tally actually do, and how they’re different from Snapshot 15:15 How communities use Tally 17:30 What convinced their first users to use Tally 20:02 How they’ve been promoting Tally among the users 22:10 When it doesn’t make sense to build a DAO 27:10 What are the most effective DAOs out there 31:40 Governance models that worked in Tally and DAOs + when it makes sense to start a DAO 39:21 Biggest challenges for DAOs 44:05 Why he wants legal clarity for crypto 45:32 Why Ethereum, Uniswap, and DAOs blew his mind 47:57 Why he found NFTs’ success so funny 50:34 Guests ideas 51:40 Where can you learn more about Tally
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: HopExchange is the leading bridge between Ethereum & L2s. Chris shares the story behind the project, how they designed their airdrop and why they decided to give the community so much power. Timestamps: 1:39 How Chris ended up in crypto and why Ethereum inspired him to build 3:20 The story behind the HopExchange: Auditing, DeFi Summer, and bet on L2 8:29 How they acquired their first users: timing, whitepaper & Twitter 10:07 What they've done to acquire Liquidity Providers 12:01 Methods to separate real users' signals from the aidroppers' noise 14:55 How they tracked down airdrop farmers 18:10 How do they care take of the community as there are only 4 full-time HopProtocol team members 19:54 Why they trusted their community to give them full power over the protocol for the next year 22:40 How they organized their airdrop to make it go smoothly 25:42 Why it's great to have the top DeFi founders such as Kane from Synthetix, Stani from Aave & Stefan from Gnosis on the cap table 27:35 What's the plan for the next few months for the HopExchange 29:20 Why MEV, CowSwap & NounsDAO blew his mind 33:50 Story of Rotate - their community's Sherlock Holmes - who took down Sybil attackers 35:55 Where to learn more about the Hop 36:23 His guests' ideas
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: Just like ENS lets people link their wallet addresses to .eth domains, IDrIss lets people link their wallet addresses to their phone numbers, e-mails & Twitter handles. But it's only the tip of the iceberg! Timestamps: 1:35 How they ended in crypto space 3:50 What’s the story & vision behind IDRiss 7:30 Five things that make them different from Ethereum Name Service 13:21 What happens when someone hacks your e-mail address or Twitter account linked to your wallet via IDriss 14:29 How they acquired their first users and what worked well 20:32 Our thoughts on professional airdrop farmers 25:20 How they build the community - “Discord is a room full of people” 30:15 The product design which helps to learn more about the users than typical web3 products 31:30 Taking care of the community by making decisions together 32:50 Where they want IDRiss to evolve 37:55 Dead-end streets & hard lessons they learned on the way 39:30 Most mind-blowing web3 project they’ve seen so far - Gnosis Safe & EmpireDAO 41:40 The funniest thing that happened to them so far in web3 space 43:34 Where you can learn more about the project 44:20 Ideas for the next guests
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: How Auston Bunsen sold his TV for 2.5 BTC? Why did 2017 ICOs inspire them to start QuickNode? How he accidentally made Vitalik think that he broke Etheruem Virtual Machine? And why QuickNode doesn’t care about the bear market? This - and much more - has been shared in our Ep. 20. PS: QuickNode shared a promo code with our community! First 20 listeners who use promo code MAC3 will get 3 months of QuickNode for free!
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: DeFi Safety helps investors understand the risks of DeFi projects. Rex tells us about i.a. the company's founding story, review process, and the way they get new clients & employees.  1:30 How Rex learned about Ethereum via Reddit & got involved thanks to a hackathon 4:30 Differences between his corporate experiences and web3 7:05 How DeFi Safety started and why they share their reports for free 9:10 The help they got from Gitcoin 10:35 Thoughts on LUNA crash 12:15 Most common safety issues in protocols 16:03 How retail users can protect themselves from problematic protocols 19:17 How does their review process look like, who requests them and how does it help to improve projects’ safety 23:14 Creating guidelines for the users & protocols in a different way than SEC might have done it 25:00 How do they acquire their clients and who do they target 28:30 Why DeFi’s transparency & their auditing process makes it much harder to obscure financial details in an Enron-like fashion 31:58 How do they recruit people in such a challenging job market 33:50 Why they don’t plan to become a DAO 35:15 Why Curve & Yearn are among the most mind-blowing web3 projects he has seen 36:24 How their report on Shibaswap & the response from the Shiba Army made them laugh 37:43 Where can you learn more about DeFi Safety 38:45 His guests' ideas
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: How EPNS solved the chicken-egg growth problem and acquired their first 44k users? What were the biggest tech challenges & dead-end streets so far and how EPNS tackled them? And what strange outfit have people worn for a VIP crypto dinner?  This, and much more, has been covered by Harsh Rajat, Founder of EPNS in this episode. Timestamps: 1:20 How he got to web3 and how he used the bot that helped him trading 3:23 What’s the vision behind EPNS, his experiences in mobile development, and the difference between web2 & web3 notifications 12:08 Why they ditched (for now) the idea of rewarding people for reading notifications 13:10 How they acquired their first users & partners and solved the chicken-egg problem 16:06 How the Ethereum community helped their product 17:45 How they’ve acquired their 44k users and how do they do it today 19:55 What kind of project can you build on EPNS 22:25 How being a protocol helps to protect EPNS from hackers 25:08 The biggest technological challenges they’ve faced so far 27:54 What were the dead-end streets that have they tried before 30:35 How does PUSH token work 33:10 What’s EPNS’ way of progressively decentralizing to avoid chaos 37:00 Most mind-blowing web3 project 41:12 Funniest thing that happened to Harsh (the VIP dinner story) 43:00 Other builders that could be a good fit for a podcast
If you don't want to miss our episodes, subscribe to our Substack and get an e-mail whenever the new one comes out: x0r is an NFT artist, coder & member of the investing team @ a16z. He shares: how to really learn how blockchains work? Why did he let devs find out the seed phrase of one of his wallets? What lessons had he drawn from his NFT drops? And how his perspective on crypto has been impacted by being a magician? 
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