Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/530 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Picture an eager eight-year-old, fishing rod in hand, standing by a South Dakota pond. That was Sam, embarking on a journey that would lead to a lifelong passion for fly fishing. Now, we invite you to come along as my guest Sam shares fishing tales and tips, from the peaceful corners of Eastern Idaho to the sturdy boats of Miller Drift Boats. Our episode navigates the tranquil world of fly fishing, discussing the pursuit of quiet spots away from the crowds and the unique experiences Eastern Idaho offers. Our conversation flows into an exploration of drift boating, examining models like the Hyde Pro Series and the Montana Skiff, and discussing the durability of different materials and designs. We also share essential safety tips for drift boating, emphasizing the importance of wearing life jackets and proper anchor use. Our chat takes a detour into the local scene of Henry's Fork and the charm of the local fly shop, Jimmy's Fly Fish Food. Sam shares his personal experiences with drift boating and dives into the necessity of safety on the river, rounding off our episode. Come join us on this angling adventure, filled with stories, laughter, and invaluable tips for both newbies and seasoned fly fishers. Episode Chapters - Miller Drift Boats (0:00:05) - Fly Fishing and Miller Drift Boats Sam began fly fishing at age 8, learning to catch bluegill and watching bass eat them, and later in college discovered the art of fly fishing and caught fish after fish. (0:09:06) - Fishing Trips and Finding Quiet Spots Enjoy fly fishing, helping guests find peaceful rivers away from crowds, and sharing the joys of nature. (0:12:40) - Fishing in Eastern Idaho and Durability Miller Drift Boats and Hyde's unique boats discussed for extra effort fly fishing spots. (0:22:15) - Types of Boats and Safety Considerations Leg locks, aluminum vs. fiberglass, safety, and finding the best spot for fly fishing. (0:34:13) - Drift Boat Rowing and Safety Tips Prioritize safety when drift boating; row away from danger, avoid fast water and big rocks, and consider restrictions on teaching and guiding. (0:38:06) - Life Jackets and Anchors We discuss life jackets, anchors, NRS Matique Inflatable life jackets, and Tornado Anchors for fly fishing safety. (0:41:15) - Boat and Fishing Recommendations in East Idaho We discuss fishing opportunities on Henry's Fork, Jimmy's Fly Fish Food, Hyde Pro Series XL, Montana Skiff, and safety. (0:54:21) - Music, Podcasts, and Boat Talk Sam and I discussed river safety, boats, life jackets, anchors, and fly fishing on Henry's Fork. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/530

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/480 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready for an epic adventure at the Lodge At Palisades Creek on the South Fork of the Snake River! Justin's got an awesome story to tell—from chef to fly fishing guide to running the lodge. We find out how they won the Orvis Fly Fishing Lodge of the Year and how Orvis has supported them along the way. We explore the river's stunning five sections, each stretchin' about 12 miles. We dive into the wild world of Yellowstone cutthroat and those rowdy rainbows, causing a stir in Idaho with bounties on their heads! We've got the lowdown on the Salmon fly, Goldenstone, and Caddis fly hatches—nature's showtime! Justin also shares valuable tips for all the DIY anglers out there and discusses the importance of river etiquette. Plus, a crazy story involving Dick Cheney's bodyguards and a sketchy civilian that came so close to a river shootout! Show Notes with Justin Hays on Lodge At Palisades Creek 03:00 - Justin tells the story of how he transitioned from being a chef to being a fly fishing guide to managing a lodge. 06:50 - Justin talks about how partnering with Orvis has provided so much support to them in every aspect along the way. 08:20 - We talk about Yellowstone cutthroat decreasing in numbers and the rainbows increasing, almost being considered invasive. As a result, the Idaho Fishing Game made it legal to catch and kill rainbows, making it a controversial topic in Idaho. IFG even put a bounty on rainbows. 12:50 - We are coming to the Southfork in Fall for Euro Nymphing School with Pete Erickson. 20:20 - We had an episode about the Henry's Fork Foundation with Brandon Hoffner at WFS 414. 23:15 - Trivia: Henry's Fork was originally called the North Fork. 27:40 - They divide the river into 5 sections. Each section is roughly 12 miles long. The 1st section has 5 access points. The 2nd and 3rd sections are the Canyon sections - Justin talks about the amazing campsites in these sections and how amazing it is to fish there. The 4th section begins in the town of Ririe. Read about these sections in detail here. 35:45 - You can visit MillerDriftBoats.com to rent a raft or a drift boat. 36:15 - Stonefly hatch lasts about 2 weeks. Justin talks about the Goldenstone hatch. In the summer they have a hopper season which ends in August. He also noted the Mutant Stonefly hatch - stoneflies that can't fly. And then they have some Dunns as September progresses. 41:50 - "The trick to the Salmon fly thing is throwing a large dry fly on 2x underneath a bush or a tree and twitching out and try to mimic the real lifecycle of an adult Salmonfly...", Justin explains in detail. 46:20 - Perdigons has been a game-changer for them in the last 2 years. 48:20 - Caddis fly hatch starts in mid-October. 48:55 - Pro tip for DIY anglers: "This river empties at 5 pm. You can have that river to yourself at 5 pm and it doesn't get dark until 10 pm." 52:30 - Justin is turning 55 this year. He started fishing in the Snake River when he was about 19 years old. 55:45 - We talk about river etiquette. 1:00:50 - Justin talks about how they won Orvis Fly Fishing Lodge of the Year. 1:06:55 - We noted that video by The New Fly Fisher highlighting the Lodge At Palisades Creek. Scroll down to watch the trailer. 👇🏻 1:07:20 - Their outfitting team mainly uses ClackaCraft Drift Boats. Justin talks about how they customized their boats and their great features. 1:11:30 - Justin recommends a 9-foot 6-wt rod. 1:13:13 - Justin noted a few restaurants and places around the area that has good food. 1:14:45 - Justin talks about Dick Cheney who's also a passionate fly angler. He tells a crazy story of when Dick's bodyguard suspected a civilian of being a threat and almost got shot. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/480

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/677   Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/teton  Today, we explore Fly Fish Food Jimmy's, a top fly shop in the West, now under new management. Join us as we speak with Madison Losee, the new shop manager. She'll share tips for your next fly fishing trip, including ways to avoid crowds on the famous Henry's Fork and her preferred techniques over the dry dropper method in summer. Madison will also share stories, including a surprise visit from a celebrity. Whether you're heading to Idaho or looking to up your fishing game, this episode is filled with insights you won't want to miss! Episode Chapters with Madison Losee on Fly Fish Food Jimmy's 2:17 - Madison explains that after a changeover, the fly shop significantly increased its inventory, especially in fly selection, now offering four times as many flies as before. This expansion was aimed at accommodating the needs of both local fly tying enthusiasts and visitors preparing for fishing trips. The shop is positioned as a central hub for anglers heading to famous fishing destinations such as the Henry's Fork and the South Fork of the Snake River, benefiting from its strategic location near major highways. 4:01 - She discusses her background and experience leading up to her first managerial role at Fly Fish Food Jimmy's. She explains that while this is her first position as a manager, she has a strong retail background from high school and has grown up working for her family's drift boat company, giving her a long-standing connection to the fly fishing industry. 6:47 - Madison talks about the experience of running a fly shop in Idaho Falls, which attracts both locals and tourists. Common questions from visitors include where to fish and what equipment to use. She also highlights the shop's proximity to prime fishing locations like Henry's Fork and South Fork, which are about 30 to 45 minutes away from town. 10:45 - She describes the team at the fly shop. Madison has been with the shop since June of the previous year. She enjoys interacting with regular customers, learning from experienced fly fishers, and staying updated on new products and gear, which she finds both fun and educational. 21:41 - We talk about Jimmy Gabettas, who was the owner of Jimmy's All Seasons Angler before it was bought by Fly Fish Food. Madison shares that Jimmy is enjoying his retirement by taking bucket list trips, including a recent one to Mongolia, and continues to engage in fishing and hunting. Despite retiring, he still visits the shop regularly to stock up on tying materials and shares his fishing experiences with the staff. 15:04 - Madison mentions spending considerable time fishing in Wyoming and expresses particular enjoyment in fishing the Snake River through Jackson, indicating it's a favorite spot. 17:02 - We talk about fishing in the Snake River area in western Wyoming, specifically through Grand Teton National Park and Jackson Hole. Madison explains that while having a boat allows for covering more water, it is not essential for fishing there, though caution is advised due to areas with strong whitewater currents. 19:13 - We get into the best times to fish the South Fork of the Snake River. She mentions that although fishing is possible year-round, her favorite times are May and June during runoff, and especially July during the salmon fly hatch. She explains that this hatch is influenced by water temperatures and can be followed through different sections of the river, typically lasting a couple of weeks from the end of June to early July. 20:24 - Madison shares her preference for using large dry flies rather than a dry dropper setup, highlighting her technique of casting close to overhanging trees and "twitching" the fly to attract fish. She emphasizes the importance of precision in casting, even at the risk of losing flies to tree branches, and describes the satisfaction of making a perfect cast. She also explains her method of twitching the fly by wiggling the rod tip to create movement, which she finds effective in attracting cutthroat trout on the South Fork. 25:37 - She mentions the products available at the shop. Madison also recommends some gear to bring when you a plan a fishing trip to their area. When it comes to casting instruction, she mentions that due to the shop's downtown location, they don't offer in-person coaching. 28:01 - I briefly share about my recent interview with Chris Korich, the coach of renowned fly caster Maxine McCormick. Chris shared insights on how Maxine began casting at the age of nine and quickly won championships, attributing part of her success to the type of rod used. Our episode with Chris will be released in November. 30:46 - Madison describes the experience of visiting their fly shop, highlighting their extensive fly-tying materials section. The shop maintains its original structure, with enhancements for more inventory. 35:48 - She highlights her top flies, mentioning the Chubbys as a must-have. She also mentions the "Pink Albert," which she describes as a fly with a pinkish hue, resembling a pink PMD or potentially a brown drake subspecies. 37:07 - We delve into the gender dynamics within the industry, specifically in fly shops. Madison notes that there is a slim percentage of women visiting the shop, which she finds interesting considering her own background in the industry. She also shares her personal experience of being questioned about her fishing skills despite her position as a shop manager. 40:48 - We ask Madison about some local attractions in Idaho Falls. She recommends The SnakeBite, a well-known local restaurant, popular even among celebrities like Harrison Ford, who visits when he's in town. She also tells a story about encountering Ty Burrell from "Modern Family" at their fly shop, highlighting the area's appeal to celebrities. Beyond dining, she describes Idaho Falls as a hub for outdoor activities, including hiking, dirt biking, mountain biking, and hunting. 42:55 - We discuss fishing opportunities throughout the year in Southport, which remains productive, especially with mid-hatch nymphing. Madison explains that the water stays open, allowing for fishing without obstacles. We also talk about the proximity of steelhead fishing, noting it's about three hours away at the Salmon River, while the Clearwater River is six to seven hours away. 44:23 - Madison talks about how to make the most out of visiting a fly shop. She shares a perspective that visitors should consider spending money, as a form of appreciation for the advice received, instead of just collecting information and purchasing nothing. She also notes that fishing doesn't require expert skills everywhere, as even beginners can succeed. 46:22 - Madison admits she has never tried Euro nymphing, although she acknowledges its popularity. She explains her preference for fishing in her own style, even if it means not catching a fish. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/677 

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/675 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, FishHound Expeditions Today, we’re honoring one of the greatest voices in fly fishing, John Gierach, who passed away in October.  I first recorded this episode with John in 2018, right after starting the podcast. John was already a huge inspiration to many with his stories and deep love for mountain streams and fly fishing. In this episode, we'll hear about John's early life and how he started writing, why he loves fly fishing, especially the mountain streams of Colorado, and some of his biggest mentors who influenced him over the years. Some we've had on this podcast since this episode. I was so excited when we first had John on, and he said yes to doing an episode because it was early on in this podcast, and he was one of the biggest, maybe the biggest, I knew out there. There are so many great stories in this one. John also came back for a second episode, and it was a dream that I never told anybody about to have John on for a podcast series so we could dig into all or many of his books. We never quite got there, of course, but we do have his voice today that should inspire all of us in his words of writing and books for years to come. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/675

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/674  Presented By: Togiak River Lodge Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/togiak  George Krumm, editor of Fish Alaska Magazine and all-around fishy dude, is going to share his experience on Alaska grand slam catching all five salmon species in the same day on a recent trip to the Togiak River. You're going to find out which technique he used to make it happen; where some of the other great trips are around Alaska and things you should be thinking about; and what he thinks is the best thing to help turn around the Chinook decline for the Pacific rim. Plus you're gonna found out how you can plan your Alaska trip easily with a resource at Fish Alaska Magazine. Episode Chapters with George Krumm on Alaska Grand Slam 3:06 - George began his journey into fly fishing when he was about seven years old. His dad gave him a small vice and showed him how to tie flies. The very first fly he tied was a gray hackle peacock. George became truly passionate about fly fishing when he started catching fish with the flies he had tied himself. 5:08 - He shares a bit about how he began his career at Fish Alaska. Melissa Norris and his brother, Marcus, founded both Fish Alaska and Hunt Alaska magazines. For Fish Alaska, George primarily writes about fly fishing. Additionally, they have a "Fly of the Month" column, which is sponsored by Mossy's Fly Shop. 8:12 - George first connected with the Larsen brothers, who own the Togiak River Lodge, during his visit in 2022. His goal was to explore Chinook fishing and write a story about it. Unfortunately, the trip wasn't very successful due to poor water and weather conditions. Despite this, George believes that the Togiak River is a standout location for Chinook fly fishing, as it still boasts strong runs of fish in various sizes. 11:48 - George visited the lodge in mid-August this year, aiming to catch coho salmon on a fly. He successfully caught all five species of Pacific salmon—Chinook, coho, sockeye, chum, and pink salmon—in a single day on a fly rod. His cousin Tom achieved this feat twice in one week. 13:39 - He describes their success, noting that on an average day, he and Tom caught over 75 salmon of various species. Although their main goal was silvers, they caught multiple types of salmon, with the King salmon being the most challenging to catch at that time of year. Interestingly, they managed to achieve a "grand slam" of catching various salmon species by accident. 15:40 - We discuss sockeye salmon, which are less talked about in freshwater fishing. George mentions significant runs in areas like Naknek and Kenai. Sockeye are valued for their red meat and while they usually feed on plankton in the ocean, they can become territorial and bite more when in large groups. For Chum salmon George mentions that they are strong fighters, often leading to broken rods, though they might not look impressive. Pink salmon are smaller and change color quickly, causing them to be underrated, but fresh pinks are tasty, similar to trout. 20:31 - George enjoys the methodical aspect of spey casting, especially for winter steelhead, where catching even one fish is rewarding. He contrasts this with the excitement of fishing in the Togiak River, where large fish are caught more frequently. 26:47 - George highlights the Togiak River Lodge's multiple packages for anglers. He also notes an important change in their policy: during the first few weeks of the fishing season, the lodge will limit the number of anglers from 24 to 14. This adjustment is aimed at providing a better experience for those specifically interested in fishing for King salmon. 27:34 - We dig into the evolving perspectives on fishing practices in Alaska, emphasizing a shift away from the traditional "whack them and stack them" mentality towards more sustainable approaches. George highlights the importance of targeting abundant fish species such as sockeye, pink, and coho salmon, while questioning the necessity of taking large quantities of fish home. Our conversation highlights the need for anglers to adapt to changing times and prioritize sustainable practices. While Alaska has been perceived as having unlimited fish supplies, current trends suggest a need for caution and conservation. 33:36 -We discuss the current state of fly fishing and the associated challenges in different regions, including Alaska and the Skeena system. Fishing restrictions, such as closures on Chinook fishing, are not only happening in Alaska but in other areas as well. 38:50 - George recounts spending extensive time fishing on the Kenai River and now frequently visits the Naknek River for its excellent rainbow trout fishing opportunities. He also highlights the overlooked potential of stillwater fishing around Anchorage and the Kenai Peninsula. He notes that many lakes in Alaska are stocked with fish and, unlike in the lower 48 states, they are not heavily fished. This means that these lakes often contain multiple age classes of fish, some reaching up to 30 inches long. 43:53 - The Fish Alaska website provides a free trip planning service. This service allows users to input information, after which they receive details and recommendations about where to go. George explains that the service typically recommends lodges or outfitters in the area of the user's intended destination. Additionally, when users submit their information, it is shared with these recommended operations, who may also contact the users to offer further assistance. 44:40 - George addresses the challenges facing the Chinook salmon fishery, particularly the commercial troll fishery in Southeast Alaska. A significant issue is that the fish caught are often not native to Alaska, and the average size of Chinook salmon along the west coast is decreasing. This size reduction is attributed to the fish being more vulnerable to overfishing in the ocean before they can return to spawn. He suggests that Chinook salmon management should be coordinated along the entire west coast, acknowledging their migratory and feeding patterns rather than being limited by political boundaries. 49:08 - George also expresses concern about the potential decline of Coho salmon in South Central Alaska, noting low returns in areas like Anchorage and Homer. He speculates that if Coho face decline, it might not be due to trawl fisheries but rather the impact of pink salmon hatchery operations. 53:43 - George clarifies the difference between trawl and troll fishing, emphasizing the impact of the former on marine environments and fish populations. 56:44 - He describes the experience of visiting the Togiak River Lodge, detailing the journey and accommodations. He also highlights the excellent food they have in the lodge. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/674   

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/673 Presented By: Waters West, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Drifthook Fly Fishing   Have you heard about Clean the Dream? It's one of Landon Mayer's favorite events, and today, Scott Robertson is here to tell us all about it. Scott shares the history of this inspiring cleanup at the Dream Stream, how it's evolved, and why it matters to anglers everywhere. Find out how saving your tippets can make a difference. Episode Chapters with Scott Robertson on Clean the Dream We're giving away a huge trip to hit the water with Landon Mayer and learn sight-fishing for massive trout! Enter now for your chance to win. 02:16 - Scott met Landon Mayer 12 years ago through their mutual friend, Brandon Kramer, who co-founded Clean the Dream with Landon. 05:22 - The Dream Stream is a five-mile stretch of the South Platte River between Eleven Mile and Spinney Mountain Reservoirs. This area crosses three different state lands: Spinney Mountain State Park, Charlie Meyers State Wildlife Area, and Eleven Mile State Park. Clean the Dream 08:04 - Clean the Dream started about ten years ago with only 20 people, but it's grown significantly since then. Now, more sponsors give out prizes, which makes the event more exciting. Clean the Dream event usually happens the third weekend in August. Tips for Organizing a Successful Cleanup Event 11:17 - If you want to host a cleanup event like Clean the Dream, there are a few key things to remember. Get the word out. Use Social Media - Promote your event on all platforms and get others with a following to share it. Find Sponsors - Reach out to brands for donations or prizes. Local Businesses -If you can’t get big brands, local stores can help, too! Flyers - Don't underestimate the power of good old-fashioned flyers. Talk to your local jurisdiction.   19:52 - You don't need to sign up to join the event. Head to the bridge lot around 8 a.m. on the third weekend in August. Scott says they prepare coffee, juice, and pastries to start the day. Once you're set, you'll get a bucket, trash grabber, bags, and gloves. The cleanup lasts about four hours, so you can pitch in for as long as possible. Afterward, a lunch with pulled pork, hot dogs, and chips wraps up the day. 21:45 - This year’s cleanup had over 200 people—ten times more than when it started. Scott says they're planning something bigger for the 10th anniversary next year. 23:41 - Scott's love for fishing started when he was 15 with his dad in Hawaii. He explained that while fly fishing wasn't common on the Big Island, he enjoyed saltwater fishing. Moving to Colorado sparked his interest in fly fishing, especially after working in the Bahamas, where he learned about bone fishing. IMG_6021 Check out @clean_the_dream on Instagram for more updates. Don't miss your chance to join Landon Mayero for your shot at sight-fishing for massive trout! Visit https://wetflyswing.com/giveaway Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/673  

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/670   Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, FishHound Expeditions, TroutRoutes, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors       Josh Mills, a seasoned expert from the Backcountry Hunters & Anglers team, as well as a board member of the Wild Steelhead Coalition and an accomplished steelhead fly tier, is set to guide us through the Clearwater River and public waters and lands. Today, you'll learn how to adjust your reel technique for enhanced stealth. We'll also provide an update on the status of the Lower Snake River dams and their current developments. Additionally, you'll discover what a public lands yard sale entails. Moreover, we'll analyze a significant western stream to improve your success on the water this year. Together, we'll delve deep into the topics of steelhead fishing and conservation. Let's begin our journey. Episode Chapters with Josh Mills on Public Waters and Lands 3:19 - We talk about our top destinations for steelhead fishing. Josh feels fortunate to fish in local rivers like the Clearwater and Salmon, but he reminisces about a memorable trip to the Skeena region in 2012 and plans to return in 2025. He also dreams of fishing in Northern California, inspired by historical figures in the steelhead community. 12:15 - Josh discusses his fishing strategy, focusing on the Clearwater River. He fishes the Clearwater from August through September, as fish from different basins, including the Snake and Grand Ronde Rivers, seek the cold water as a thermal refuge. He notes the Clearwater can be a challenging but rewarding river to fish. Once the thermal block breaks, fish often return to the Snake River, and Josh shifts his focus to the Grand Ronde system. 16:11 - We ask Josh for advice on fly patterns for steelhead fishing on the Deschutes River in October. He responds by emphasizing the unpredictable nature of steelhead fishing, suggesting that success often depends on the angler's confidence and intuition rather than specific fly patterns. He explains that steelhead are curious and might bite at almost anything due to aggression, predatory instincts, or curiosity. 23:31 - We dig into his involvement with Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA) and the Wild Steelhead Coalition. He initially got involved by running fundraisers and joining the board of the latter, which led him deeper into conservation efforts. He started volunteering with BHA in 2015, an organization dedicated to protecting public lands and waters in North America. Josh felt compelled to protect these lands, recognizing their importance for recreation and conservation. 28:57 - We get into the complexities of public land and water access laws in the United States, particularly focusing on differences between states. Josh elaborates on the varied stream access laws across states, highlighting how states like Washington, Idaho, and Montana have more permissive laws, while Colorado and Utah face significant challenges. 42:37 - We discuss Josh's experiences and growth in fly fishing. Josh emphasizes the continuous nature of learning and improving in fishing. He talks about the technical skills involved, such as casting and line management, and how observing skilled anglers like Brian Chou and others has inspired him. Josh admires their proficiency in handling challenging conditions and accurately predicting fish locations. Josh acknowledges that despite trying to replicate the techniques of skilled anglers, there are subtle differences in execution that impact results. He emphasizes the importance of learning from others and adapting various techniques, such as transitioning between different fly lines. 45:58 - We compare fishing the Clearwater River versus in the Deschutes. Josh highlights the former's larger size, which offers more room for casting and allows for different fishing techniques. He notes that unlike the Deschutes, where sun orientation impacts fishing strategies, the Clearwater allows for dry line fishing throughout winter. He also mentions the genetic traits of Clearwater fish that make them more likely to rise through the water. Additionally, he compares the river sizes and flow variability, explaining how the Clearwater's dam-controlled nature affects fishing conditions. Despite the challenges, Josh appreciates the unique fishing opportunities both rivers offer, with each having its own "secrets" and characteristics. 49:07 - Josh gives some valuable tips on fishing for steelhead in Clearwater. He suggests visiting the Red Shed Fly Shop for advice and emphasizes the importance of focusing on manageable sections of large rivers. He explains that understanding where fish rest and conserving energy is crucial. For rods, Josh notes that it varies with the season. He enjoys using a 15-foot rod with a 60-foot line but adapts his technique based on conditions. 54:39 - We discuss the dynamics of fly fishing, particularly focusing on the experience of fishing with highly skilled casters. Josh admits he is an average caster but values learning from experts like Calvin Fuller, and Brian Chou, who demonstrate exceptional skill and understanding of the craft. He recounts experiences at a steelhead camp, highlighting how observing and learning from others is invaluable. 58:30 - Josh shares his passion for tying steelhead flies, which he considers his favorite due to their intricate construction. He emphasizes the importance of learning from various resources and incorporating techniques from different fly-tying experts to develop his unique style. Josh ties steelhead flies year-round, but also enjoys crafting flies for warm-water fish like smallmouth bass. He admits he doesn't enjoy tying dry flies unless they involve fun materials like foam. While he can tie Catskill-style flies, he prefers tying streamers and relishes the opportunity to learn new techniques, such as tying flat wings for striped bass or preparing flies for exotic fishing trips, which he finds particularly rewarding. 1:01:29 - He talks about the Wild Steelhead Coalition. Josh explains that the organization is mainly volunteer-run, with one small contractor. Despite its size, the coalition is highly effective in advocating for steelhead conservation, engaging in fundraising, public education, and advocacy efforts. Josh mentions a recent significant article in the Seattle Times that highlights their work, illustrating the coalition's impact despite its resources. 1:05:20 - We briefly talk about the status and future of the Snake River dams. Josh emphasizes the ongoing efforts to educate and build coalitions regarding the dams, expressing that everyone affected should be considered. He highlights the historical use of the dams for barge traffic and the declining export traffic on the river. He mentions recent news indicating salmon are passing above dam sites for the first time in a century, suggesting the potential benefits of dam removal on salmon populations. 1:08:23 - We ask Josh about that time when he worked at a radio after college.  1:13:08 - Josh shares that he used to play baseball as a pitcher.    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/670  

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/668 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop If you’ve ever watched a fly fishing YouTube video, there’s a good chance you’ve come across one produced by today’s guest, Colin McKeown. Colin sadly passed away last month, and today I want to re-release an interview I did with him in 2019. Colin was behind one of the largest fly fishing YouTube channels and inspired many in the industry. Show Notes with Celebrating the Life of Colin Mckeown.  I want to take this moment to celebrate his life and encourage anyone impacted by his work to reach out to his family, The New Fly Fisher team, or even to me if you'd like to share how Colin inspired you or influenced your fishing journey. In this episode, we dive into Colin’s background, and how he started The New Fly Fisher, and we’ll talk about Atlantic Salmon, Newfoundland, and his full story. This is from 2019, and as I mentioned, Colin passed away in September of 2024. This is a rerelease of Episode 084. If you'd like to listen to the original episode, you can find it here. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/668  

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/666  Presented By: TroutRoutes, Waters West, Togens Fly Shop, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors      In this episode, Joe Rist and I will journey to fly fishing the Catskills, often hailed as the birthplace of American fly fishing. Join us as we uncover the rich history of this iconic region, explore the streams of the Beaver Kill and the Delaware branches, and discover why this area holds such a special place in the hearts of anglers. With Joe's expert insights, you'll learn valuable tips on dry fly fishing and perfecting your casting techniques. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a curious novice, this episode promises to deepen your appreciation for fly fishing in one of the most storied landscapes in the U.S. Episode Chapters with Joe Rist on Fly Fishing the Catskills 1:54 - We explore Joe's journey into fly fishing, sparked by his father's introduction with basic fishing gear. His passion solidified after catching his first brook trout in Maine and starting "Fish Camp" with friends. Joe transitioned to guiding professionally after retiring from the post office at 55. Following the passing of the shop's owner, Joe, with no retail experience but support from his family, successfully opened Trout Town Flies, now in its fifth year. 7:48 - We talk about the history of fly fishing in the Catskill region. Joe highlights its significance as "holy waters," noting contributions from pioneers like Theodore Gordon and George La Branche. The Catskill Fly Fishing Center & Museum, covering 50 acres, showcases important figures and artifacts in fly fishing, including the resurgence of interest among younger people during the Covid pandemic. 11:12 - Joe offers advice on the best fishing times in the Catskills, recommending May for dry fly fishing due to ideal temperatures. He suggests novice-friendly rivers like Beaver Kill and Willow, while recommending the East and West Branches of the Delaware River for experienced anglers. 16:22 - For lodging and camping, Joe explains that while there is ample lodging, prime time (late April to early June) requires early reservations starting in December or January. The area has modest accommodations catering to fishermen, including notable places like Roscoe Motel, Riverside Cafe & Lodge, Red Rose, and Rockland House. For DIY camping, there are several state campgrounds, including Butternut Grove, Roscoe Campsite Park, and Peaceful Valley on the Delaware. 18:50 - Joe reveals that his shop makes 60-70% of its flies in-house. He highlights the significance of tying flies like cripples and emergers, as well as traditional Catskill flies. He also recounts creating the brown floating nymph (BFN) after noticing fish feeding on a specific insect on the West Branch of the Delaware. 25:29 - We get into the other flies he uses in the Catskills. Joe uses the gray fox, cahill, and red quill, effectively on their rivers. He provides a tip for modifying a red quill to mimic a rusty spinner. 28:35 - We focus on fishing the Beaver Kill. Joe notes that the Beaver Kill is more accessible for novice fly fishermen due to its high gradient, which helps correct casting errors. He also mentions that it is stocked with brown trout by the New York State. 32:06 - Our conversation shifts to fishing techniques, where Joe explains the importance of positioning above the fish and allowing the current to deliver the fly naturally. He mentions that in the east, anglers need to feed a lot of line—sometimes 70 to 80 feet—to achieve this, which can be challenging but necessary for successful fishing. 33:24 - Joe elaborates on fishing in the Delaware system, highlighting the commonality of catching large fish, including 21-27 inch fish. He explains the strength and resilience of these fish, particularly due to the cold, fast-moving waters. He also mentions migratory fish like shad and stripers that enter the Delaware system, and the presence of smallmouth bass in areas like the Beaver Kill. He notes that while there are various fish species, anglers predominantly seek large rainbows and browns. 38:05 - We talk about the fishing regulations and conditions in New York. Joe explains that the fishing season runs year-round, with specific rules: from April 1st to October 15th, regular fishing with size and catch limits is allowed; from October 16th to March 31st, it's catch and release only, with no live bait. 39:33 - Joe mentions temperature inversions in the Delaware River's tail waters, which affect fishing conditions. Milder winters have led to earlier fishing and hatches, with some species appearing sooner. He highlights that the tail waters offer consistent fishing opportunities, even in warmer months, and details the fishable waters: 17 miles on the west branch and variable conditions on the east branch. 42:03 - Joe describes their guiding and fishing techniques in the Catskills. 46:16 - For new anglers fishing the west branch of a large river, Joe emphasizes the importance of patience and observation when approaching the water. He advises beginners to look for foam lines, which indicate where food and fish might be. He also suggests breaking the river down into smaller sections, treating it first as a brook, then a stream, to make it less intimidating. He also highlights the need to adjust fishing techniques based on the time of day and hatches. Joe mentions that his shop can help plan trips and tailor them to the angler's schedule, whether it involves fishing in the morning or evening. 51:19 - We ask about his essential fishing gear. Joe highlights the use of fish-friendly ghost nets, wading staff for stability, quality wading boots for ankle support, and wading belt for safety. He also favors traditional vests for storage and versatility. 53:19 - As we approach late September and early October, he mentions the pre-spawn period when aggressive male trout favor streamers in orange or yellow. He mentions the essential flies during this period. 57:42 - Joe shares his travel bucket list, including a planned trip to Chile with his daughter to potentially represent a lodge there. He also expresses interest in fishing in Alaska and Montana's grayling, despite past trips to Colorado, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. 59:18 - We discuss various boats and flotation devices for the Delaware River, including traditional boats, rafts, kayaks, and paddleboards. Joe warns against belly boats due to safety concerns and praises drift boats for their ability to navigate shallow waters. 1:00:38 - We ask him a couple of random questions on his music preference and go-to bar and restaurants in their area. For music, he likes the Allman Brothers, Coldplay, and Marshall Tucker. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/666  

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/665 Presented By:   Drifthook Fly Fishing, Angler's Coffee, Togiak River Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory Jonathan Farmer, steelhead fly tying guru and author of Chasing Chrome: Tying Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies is here to take us into his world of Alaska and steelhead fishing. We’ll hear the stories behind flies like the Graboid, Led Zep Prawn, and Mini Me, plus why Jonathan’s shifting to more natural patterns and how he picks his colors. Jonathan ties some of the cleanest flies you’ll ever see. He’s been putting in 40 to 70 hours a week for over 10 years! Find out why so many people are looking him up and how his book is packed with tips to help you understand fly design. Ready to pick up some tricks from a pro? Grab a notepad. You’re going to want to jot these down! Show Notes with Jonathan Farmer on Tying Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies.  11:17 – Fly fishing started for Jonathan when he was just 17 during a backcountry camp in Colorado. He started with conventional fishing and even joined tournaments in Texas. He worked on sport fishing yachts in South Florida before moving to Alaska, where he got into fly fishing. 12:14 – Jonathan shares that each season in Alaska offers unique opportunities. In spring, he loves stone fly fishing on the Kenai. Summer brings great dry fly action and swinging wet flies. By fall, fish target spawning sockeye. Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies Chasing Chrome: Tying Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies 21:20 – Jonathan talks about how he always wanted to write a fishing book. A few years ago, he started jotting down thoughts but put them aside. He teamed up with Mike at Mossy’s Fly Shop for help with photos. 24:18 – The book features Jonathan’s favorite steelhead and Pacific salmon flies, complete with step-by-step instructions. He says the book wouldn’t be what it is without Marty Howard’s input on its layout and design. Marty also co-wrote the book Steelhead Fly Tying Art and Design with Dec Hogan. Check out our episode with Dec Hogan here! Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies  The Book’s Creation 30:37 – Jonathan said the toughest part of writing his book was the editing process. He followed Marty’s advice and printed three copies for friends to review. Visit Jonathan’s website or Instagram to grab your copy of his book. You can also get a signed copy, which comes with three flies from the book! 34:07 – The book covers fly-tying techniques and color choices. Jonathan mentioned that while some flies, like the Led Zep Prawn, are super fun to tie, they can be complex. He enjoys having a fly box just to admire the cool designs, even if he doesn’t fish with all of them all the time. Watch this video of Jonathan tying the Led Zep Prawn on Youtube: The Challenge of Naming Flies 36:08 – There are 21 unique flies in the book that Jonathan created himself. He said that designing flies is probably easier than naming them. “The Graboid,” was named by a friend without even knowing it. Many of his flies have music-themed names, like “Sure Shot,” inspired by the Beastie Boys, and “Crown Jewel,” from Brother Ali. He even has a tube fly named “Zoomer,” which was created during a Zoom course.   Finding the Perfect Steelhead Fly Proportions 52:29 – Jonathan has been tying flies for nearly a decade and puts in a serious amount of hours—sometimes 70 a week! 53:26 – We dive into how to balance materials when tying the perfect steelhead fly. It’s all about finding the right proportions—not too sparse, but not overly bulky either. If a fly feels too full, he advises creating a channel to slim it down. Jonathan reminds us that even experienced tiers sometimes end up with flies that are a bit bulkier than intended, and it’s okay to make adjustments.   55:39 – Bulky flies don’t move or breathe well in the water, which affects how they mimic bait. A fly that casts poorly or looks stiff in the water won’t attract fish. Jonathan uses a tank in his office to test the movement of his flies. If it doesn’t swim or breathe right after a few hours, it’s a no-go for him, and he tosses it. The Mini-Me Graboid  Jonathan shares the story of the Mini-Me fly. The Mini Me uses pine squirrel instead of rabbit, making it a smaller, more versatile fly. Jonathan uses it for steelhead, coho, and trout, especially in colors like black and red or black and blue. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/665

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/663  Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Smitty's Fly Box, FishHound Expeditions, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors     Welcome to our latest episode, where we delve into the exciting world of UK fly fishing with none other than Chris Hague, an elite fly casting instructor and guide. In this episode, we explore the intricacies of fly fishing in the UK and Iceland, focusing on the majestic Atlantic salmon and the art of spey fishing. Chris shares his expert insights on the best techniques, the top locations for catching wild rainbows, and the current state of salmon fishing in Scotland. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a curious beginner, this episode is packed with valuable tips and fascinating stories. Episode Chapters with Chris Hague on UK Fly Fishing 4:19 - Chris' interest in fishing began at a young age, influenced by living close to various fishing spots and seeing salmon fishing on family holidays in Wales. His passion for fly fishing led him to focus exclusively on it. About 20 years ago, he began taking exams to become a fly fishing instructor, starting with entry-level certifications and advancing to more complex qualifications, including those from the Fly Fishers International (FFI). 10:14 - Chris describes the current situation of salmon runs in the UK and how it compares to other locations. The UK has experienced a decline in salmon populations with little improvement. He shares his recent experience fishing on the River Tweed in Scotland, where he caught a 13-pound fish but notes the effort required and the scarcity of fish. Chris contrasts this with Iceland's successful ranching policy, where larger fish are placed in holding pens and a select number of fish are used for breeding. 13:48 - Chris offers spey casting lessons, including single-handed and double-handed workshops, and guided fishing trips for species like trout and pike. He notes that traveling for salmon fishing requires a three-hour drive. 14:32 - He describes his typical two-handed setup for salmon fishing, including a 12'7" Mackenzie FX2 rod made of carbon and graphene, paired with a Lamson reel and a shooting head system. He emphasizes the versatility of multi-tip line setups, which allow anglers to adjust their fishing strategy quickly without carrying heavy gear. He prefers traveling light and uses this adaptable setup to efficiently cover different fishing conditions. 19:18 - Chris explains they are currently designing a new line for Mackenzie, and he describes the evolution of fishing lines, noting that Skagit and Scandi lines emerged around the same time. Skagit lines were short and designed for throwing heavy, large flies, while Scandi lines offered better presentation but were still relatively short. Chris mentions the development of hybrid lines that combine the benefits of both Skagit and Scandi lines, being short but offering better presentation. 21:07 - He mentions the Lamson Guru reel which he says complements the black, orange, and white Mackenzie rods. Mackenzie was founded by Scott Mackenzie, a world champion distance caster. The company has gained recognition for its innovative rods, especially those incorporating graphene, a material known for its strength and stability. This has led to the Mackenzie rods winning several awards in the UK. Additionally, Chris mentions that Mackenzie is expanding their product line to include clothing and various types of rods, including those for tight line nymphing, saltwater fishing, and predator fishing, with new products expected in 2025. 23:49 - Chris recounts catching a 30-pound fish in the River Tweed using a 12ft 7wt rod while fishing from a boat. He mentions that the boat is maneuvered manually by gillies, who have impressive arm strength due to their constant rowing. Chris describes the fishing experience, noting the gentle take of the fish and how he adapted his technique by changing the depth and fly used. 26:35 - For those planning a fishing trip to the UK, Chris suggests that while the UK has fantastic rivers, access can be challenging due to many being members-only. He mentions that many anglers travel to places like Iceland and Norway for better fishing experiences. He prefers Iceland because he can reach rivers there faster than in Scotland and finds the fishing quality superior. 30:24 - We dig into the history and evolution of spey casting. He explains that spey casting originated in the 1880s with fishermen who needed a technique to cast in limited space and under various wind conditions. 34:41 - We talk about salmon fishing techniques, particularly in Iceland and the UK. Chris explains that early in the season, larger and more aggressive fish are more likely to chase bigger flies, whereas later in the season, fish become more cautious and prefer smaller flies. He shares insights on how to keep the fly in front of the fish longer by manipulating the line without creating too much slack. 40:37 - Chris shares his love for various fish species and recounts a memorable trip to the Maldives. There, they engaged in sight fishing on flats, targeting species like triggerfish and yellow-spotted trevally. He describes the excitement of seeing fish chase the bait and the necessity of quick casting adjustments. 43:58 - We talk about his fly casting workshop. Chris explains that his workshops, like the recent ones in Italy and Derbyshire, are full-day events focusing on various types of casting techniques. He begins with basic waterborne anchor casts such as snap casts and double spey casts, then progresses to more advanced airborne anchor casts like Touch and Go and Snake Roll casts. 46:31 - Chris describes the snake roll cast. He explains that this cast is designed for quick angle changes and is ideal when there's limited space behind the caster, such as when there are obstructions. 48:42 - He shares his plans for the rest of the year which includes a comprehensive salmon fishing course in Iceland, specifically at the East Ranga. The course, taking place just before prime fishing season, will cover various aspects of salmon fishing, including casting workshops, fly selection, and fishing strategies. 54:32 - We briefly talk about the fishing conditions and fish populations in Iceland, comparing them to those in other regions. Chris says that while there were fewer fish this year, the numbers remain relatively constant due to effective management policies. We also discuss the impact of hatcheries. 57:22 - We get into the gear for salmon fishing. Chris explains that while they do use nets, he personally doesn't carry one, relying instead on nearby gillies to help with netting fish and emphasizing the importance of fish care and keeping the fish in the water. He prefers to travel light, carrying minimal gear such as tippet, nippers, a tape measure, and a small box of flies and hooks. He avoids using a vest or pack, instead storing everything in his waders. 59:42 - Chris gives an advice for those who are planning a fishing trip to Iceland. He suggests first-timers to join organized trips led by experienced guides to avoid common pitfalls such as bringing the wrong gear. He emphasizes the importance of proper preparation, including selecting the right clothing and equipment, and knowing the best fishing spots. 1:01:26 - Chris currently uses a prototype line. He mentions that Mackenzie is developing a new, simplified multi-tip fly line system designed to be easy to use. This system will include a floating body and a sinking body, allowing anglers to control the depth and speed of their fly. The simplified system aims to avoid the confusion associated with blended lines. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/663 

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/662 Presented By:  Stonefly Nets, TroutRoutes, Smitty's Fly Box  In today’s Littoral Zone episode, Phil chats with Jason Randall about what trout see and why it matters. Jason has written four books, including his famous trout trilogy, which dives deep into how trout behave in their environment. While Jason's passion lies in rivers and streams, the research and knowledge he's amassed is equally beneficial to stillwater fly fishers. ]His understanding of how trout see is crucial information for all fly fishers, guiding both our pattern selection and presentation techniques, information that helps us consistently make the correct pattern and presentation choice. Show Notes with Jason Randall on What Trout See and Why it Matters. 2:20 - Jason Randall graduated as a veterinarian and did postgraduate work in fish health and medicine. Although he considered a career in fisheries, he ultimately chose private practice. 4:16 - Jason started fly fishing around 40 years ago but got frustrated early on due to a lack of guidance. He took a break, then later tried again this time with the help of great mentors. Jason says his passion really started during a trip to Colorado. A guide introduced him to a caddis hatch that transformed the river into a feeding frenzy of trout. Watching the stream come alive with caddis and rising fish was a game-changer for Jason. 08:21 - Jason says he was lucky to have some amazing mentors like George Kustin who guided him in fly fishing and taught him about wet flies and soft tackles. Lefty Kreh took Jason under his wing. 09:31 - Jason also works with Temple Fork Outfitters on rod design and prototype testing. This year, they introduced a new European Nymphing Rod called the Elevare, which won Best New Rod at ICAST 2024. Books by Jason Randall 13:00 - Jason’s trout fishing trilogy started in 2012 with Jay Nichols from Stackpole Books. The trilogy covers: Feeding Time: A Fly Fisher’s Guide to What, When and Where Trout Eat Trout Sense: A Fly Fisher’s Guide to What Trout See, Hear, and Smell Moving Water: A Fly Fisher’s Guide to Currents Jason also wrote Nymph Masters, a collaborative effort featuring tips from top nymph anglers like Gary Borger and Lefty Kreh. Trout Sense 17:00 - Trout begins life as prey, eating small organisms like plankton.  As they grow, they become predators, feeding on insects, crustaceans, and even small fish or mammals. They retain the wide-set eyes of prey for spotting threats and the sharp focus of predators for hunting. This makes them tricky to catch.   21:10 - Jason explains how light works differently underwater, which affects how trout see. Refraction, or the bending of light when it moves from air to water, can also trick us into thinking we're casting right over a fish, but we could be a few feet off.  26:08 - Jason dives into how color fades underwater, starting with red, and how different colors are absorbed at various depths. Fluorescent colors like chartreuse stand out the most and create a strong contrast, which trout notice. 29:18 - Unlike humans, a trout's pupils don’t adjust to light, and their eyes have a football-like shape that lets them see clearly both in front and to the side. Search Image and How Trout Decide to Eat 42:11 - Trout uses a "search image" to figure out what’s food and what’s not. They focus on four things: size, shape (profile), movement, and color. If a fish keeps ignoring your fly from far away, it’s probably the size or shape that’s off. But if they come close, and then turn away, Jason says that it may be a color-based refusal. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/662    

https://wetflyswing.com/q4 In this short episode I give you a super quick episode that updates you on our podcast plans for the next month or so. We will be taking a small brake from 3 episodes a week until Dave gets back from the fall school schedule.   Head over to Schooloffishing.co if you want to find out what trips we have going now.

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/659  Presented By: TroutRoutes, Waters West, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors     In this episode, we explore the thrilling world of Texas redfish fishing with expert guide Rick Hartman. Rick shares invaluable tips on casting in windy conditions, identifying nervous waters, and practicing techniques that will improve your chances of catching redfish, trout, tarpon, and other saltwater species. Join us as we uncover the secrets to successful fishing, including how to mark your line for more accurate casts and the surprising truth about whether a redfish will take a bare hook. Rick also provides a step-by-step guide on planning your next fishing trip to South Texas, ensuring you know what to do and what to avoid. Episode Chapters with Rick Hartman on Texas Redfish Adventures 1:38 - Rick recounts his introduction to fly fishing, which began accidentally through older family members during childhood trips to farm ponds and the mountains. He explains that he didn't realize fly fishing could be done in saltwater until he was in junior high. 5:35 - He describes the Lower Laguna Madre area in South Texas. It's a remote area with few access points, mainly through Port Isabel and Port Mansfield, and airports in Harlingen and Brownsville. Rick mentions that while most fishing is within the bay system, there are opportunities to fish in the Gulf of Mexico for various species, though the rough and windy conditions often limit these outings. 9:55 - We talk about the best times to target redfish in his area. Rick mentions that fall, especially September to October, is an excellent time to fish due to consistent weather. Although August can be very hot and humid, it still offers good fishing. Overall, he advises avoiding winter if traveling from afar to ensure a better fishing experience. 14:13 - We ask him about the stingray tailing. Rick explains that they act like vacuum cleaners on the flats, picking up crabs and shrimp from the bottom. Fish like trout and redfish follow behind stingrays to catch the leftovers the stingrays miss. This behavior makes the fish so focused that they don't notice nearby boats. 17:59 - To find a fish, Rick emphasizes that the first and most crucial factor is the water level, which can change daily due to wind. He explains that he assesses various spots based on whether the water levels are suitable for his boat to float. He also considers wind direction and looks for sheltered shorelines where the water might be clearer. Rick contrasts this with trout fishing, noting that unlike trout, which behave predictably, redfish can be much more challenging. The conditions and fish locations can change so rapidly that even after having a fishing spot "wired" for a week or two, a short break can make it feel like starting over. 20:34 - We dig into his involvement in casting competitions. Rick mentions he participated in these competitions for about 12 years, drawn by the excitement and substantial prize money which attracted participants globally. One these events was by the International Sportsmen's Expo (ISE). 24:01 - Rick recounts his success in various casting events, describing the process where top casters get to choose their fishing spots. He shares that his interest in casting began because he found it enjoyable and started working at a fly shop where he taught casting and fly tying classes. He was introduced to casting tournaments by a Sage representative, which led him to participate and eventually excel in these competitions through extensive practice. 29:45 - We ask him for some casting techniques, particularly in challenging conditions like windy environments or saltwater fishing. Rick emphasizes the importance of practicing with targets, suggesting anglers use a single target to practice hitting from various distances and directions. He stresses the significance of making effective second casts if the first cast is off-target, rather than wasting time stripping the line back in and starting over. 35:17 - Rick emphasizes that the casting stroke should not change in the wind; instead, the elevation of the forward cast should be adjusted. He advises aiming the forward cast lower to the water to prevent the wind from pushing the fly back. He warns against using too much force, which can create larger loops and reduce aerodynamics, suggesting a more controlled and precise technique for better results. 43:26 - He describes his process for preparing and helping his guests catch fish on his boat. He usually stops the boat 200-300 yards from the fishing spot to approach quietly. He observes the water to identify patterns and waits for the right time to fish. Rick provides tips for his guests, such as stripping off line and false casting to prepare. Depending on the wind conditions, he maneuvers the boat to give his guests the best possible shot at casting. 45:59 - Rick explains that "nervous water" looks different from the regular water pattern and can be a sign of fish activity. He elaborates that while water generally has a consistent pattern, a small area with a different pattern could indicate fish. 50:29 - We get into fly tying. Rick shares that he ties his own flies because store-bought ones often don't meet his standards. He mentions purchasing supplies from various places, including shows and local fly shops like Bob Marriott's and Fishing Tackle Unlimited. When asked about his go-to fly patterns, Rick highlights a small, tan, cream-bodied, weedless crab pattern in different weights, and a white clouser with a weed guard, both effective for redfish and speckled trout. He notes that while these patterns work in most situations, adjustments are sometimes necessary. 53:39 - We ask him about the brands he have worked with. He mentions reels from Abel and Ross, highlighting their high-quality reels. He also praises Rise Fishing Co. for their excellent rods. For lines, he uses those from Airflo. 54:43 - When planning for a fishing trip in South Texas, Rick emphasizes the importance of preparation. He advises not to assume you're ready just because you've fished before. Given the significant investment in the trip, he suggests practicing casting regularly, perhaps in your yard, to improve accuracy and distance. He also recommends seeking help from a local fly shop instructor if necessary. 56:18 - We get into movies, podcasts, and music. Rick reveals his love for Guy Ritchie films, particularly "Snatch" and "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels," citing their great characters and one-liners. Our conversation shifts to media consumption during road trips. Rick shares that he listens to both music on Spotify and fly fishing podcasts, mentioning how his daughter introduced him to Spotify. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/659 

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/658   Presented By:  Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Skwala, Yellowstone Teton Territory      Denis Peirce, radio show host and trolling flies guru, is here to take us into the history of the great Jay Fair, how all this came to be, and his connection to Jay.   Today, you’ll learn how to troll flies with your current gear, the secret to manipulating your fly, and even hear the story behind the wiggle fin that started with a WD-40 can!   Grab your favorite drink and get ready for a laid-back way to catch some big fish!   Show Notes with Denis Peirce on Trolling Flies.     03:50 - Denis grew up fishing in Southern California with his grandfather. Over the years, he built a successful business selling flies to resorts and fly shops. He focused on places where people actually fished, like the Sierras and up the West Coast.   06:31 - Denis talks about Jay Fair’s unique trolling system. Jay used a sink tip line to keep his fly just below the surface, trolling near shallow areas where trout would feed.   07:46 - Denis started working with Jay Fair in the late '90s. Jay met Denis at the International Sportsman's Expo and asked him to produce the flies on a larger scale. Jay provided the kits with all the materials, and Denis handled the production and shipping.   Getting Started with Trolling Flies   12:58 - Denis talks about how to start trolling with flies, even if you’re new to it. He says your current rods, reels, and lines will do. If you have a spool of 2X tippet, you can make a longer leader, and you're set. A sinking or sink tip line works better, but even a standard floater can work.   14:49 - We discuss why trolling flies might get negative reactions and why it's a great technique. He says trolling is great because it’s less physically demanding than casting all day. Plus, trolling helps cover a lot of water, which is key when fish are scattered.   Check out our Episode with Denny Rickards.   Best Conditions for Trolling Flies   17:50 - Early mornings and low light are prime trolling times because fish are likelier to be in shallow areas. Fish will drop deeper as the sun rises and the water gets clearer.   Denis stresses that fishing is like solving a puzzle; you must adjust your technique based on daily conditions.   20:55 - Denis recommends letting your boat glide to a stop to let your gear sink, then speeding up again to move the gear through different depths. Changing direction also helps provoke strikes, as fish react to movement.   22:17 - Trolling flies are designed to attract trout, which are visual feeders. They feature long tails and wings to create movement in the water. The action disc can make the fly swim even more attractively.   25:59 - The WiggleFin Action Disc is a small plastic disc that adds movement to your fly and makes it more attractive to fish. Dean Teegarden was inspired by a creative fisherman using sequins and a leech pattern. Dean took that idea and made the disc using a contact lens holder and a tube from a WD-40 can.   29:06 - Jay Fair used a floating fly line and manipulated it by adding a mend—basically flicking the rod to make the fly pulse and change speed. This technique makes the fly move more naturally.   Fishing Show with Dennis Peirce   33:13 - Denis shares about his weekly radio show that’s been on air since the early '90s. It runs every Friday night from 6 to 7 PM. The radio show started as a way for Denis to connect with his fly fishing customers and learn more about their local fishing spots.   40:42 - When trolling, any streamer fly will work, but deceivers are especially cool if you let them soak for 10 minutes. You can use tube flies and stack them to make long flies.   47:53 - Denis says to focus on structure in the water to find big fish. Finding structure is key, so invest in a basic fish finder to locate it.   For trolling, you can use lead core lines or modern shooting heads with sinking rates. Thin braid backing helps you go deeper, and you can add a flasher to your setup for better attraction.   Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/658  

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/656  Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, TroutRoutes, Visit Helena, MT, Skwala Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors    In today's episode, Mike Schultz from Schultz Outfitters shares his invaluable insights to help make your next smallmouth bass fishing trip a roaring success. From headhunting strategies and the importance of the right angle, to understanding how temperature influences your fishing methods throughout the year, this episode covers it all. Plus, we delve into some unique tips, like how chasing softshell turtles can improve your bass fishing game. So, let's get into it and uncover why smallmouth bass fishing is a favorite among some of the best anglers in the country. Episode Chapters with Mike Schultz on Smallmouth Bass Fishing 3:14 - We discuss the unique aspects of smallmouth bass fishing in Michigan. Mike highlights that the local rivers, being smaller and more intimate, offer a special experience compared to larger watersheds. Mike mentions that their standard fishing trips involve using Clackacraft skiffs, which are perfectly suited for their rivers. The guides have flexibility in scheduling trips, adjusting based on the time of year and water conditions. 6:29 - We get into the fishing conditions and expectations for our upcoming trip in July 2025. Mike mentions that July is typically great for topwater fishing, using poppers and terrestrial baits similar to trout fishing gear. There are also insect hatches, such as mayflies, that can start in early June and last into September, providing various fishing opportunities. 10:14 - We discuss plans for a fishing trip in Michigan, focusing on the unique aspects of fishing in the Great Lakes region. Mike describes their different fishing programs available in mid-July, including opportunities to catch numerous smallmouth bass or targeting larger fish in smaller rivers. He emphasizes that by mid-summer, large fish often remain in fixed areas, allowing for more strategic fishing. 14:08 - According to Mike, the state record in Michigan for smallmouth bass is over nine pounds, but such large fish are typically found in lakes and not in the rivers where they fish. Their focus is more on the length of the fish, with a 20-inch smallmouth being considered mature and noteworthy. He mentions that their crew catches around 25 to 30 smallmouth bass each year that are 20 inches or larger. 16:06 - For a successful smallmouth bass fishing from a drift boat, Mike emphasizes the importance of keeping the fly out front of the boat rather than off to the side. This approach helps keep the angler undetected and ensures a more effective hook set when the fish inhales the fly. He further explains that this method not only improves your chances but also provides a better experience for all on the boat. 21:13 - We talk about the evolution of drift boats in their region. Mike reminisces about the old aluminum drift boats, especially the big 16-foot models. He explains that initially, large aluminum boats were common, but over time, companies like Hyde and Stealth Craft began producing lighter, narrower boats that are more suitable for the local rivers. These boats are easier to maneuver and can be equipped with small motors, which helps them cover long stretches of river without exhausting themselves. 24:45 - Mike attributes the Schultz Outfitters' success to longevity in the field, treating people well, fulfilling promises, and compensating team members fairly. He mentions key figures like Jeff Liskay and Greg Senyo, highlighting their expertise and humility despite not being very active on social media. He also notes the special environment they've created at Schultz Outfitters, which some customers deeply appreciate. 28:25 - Mike runs through the normal year at their shop. They do a lot of fly tying focused events from January to February. He also mentions one of their big annual events which is called Bobbin the Hood. 34:55 - We ask Mike about his preferred water conditions, to which he responds that he enjoys a sudden increase in water flow. Mike shares a recent vacation experience where the river's flow increased from 1000 to 1600 cubic feet per second (CFS), resulting in excellent fishing conditions. He notes that earlier in the week, finesse techniques worked best, but the increase in flow changed the fishing dynamics. 35:54 - Mike elaborates on the concept of finesse fishing, which can range from using small foam flies like damsels and dragonflies to larger poppers, emphasizing patience and precision. 38:42 - He also describes a unique technique that involves sight fishing around softshell turtles, similar to saltwater fishing. These turtles dislodge food while feeding, attracting fish, and the key is not to spook the turtle to capitalize on the opportunity. 47:12 - Mike tells us that bass are always predators and that their diet is influenced by their surroundings. For example, in one area with abundant caddis, even smaller fish like 12-14 inch bass consume caddis larva. Bass also eat crayfish, hexes, frogs, and various bait fish that migrate from the Great Lakes at different times of the year. Mike emphasizes the importance of understanding the seasonal and environmental factors, such as water levels and temperatures, to predict feeding patterns. 49:28 - We dig into casting. Mike stresses the necessity of being proficient in backhand casting, especially when fishing from a boat or in specific scenarios. He advises against hard stops in casting when using bigger flies, recommending instead a continuous motion style, such as the Belgian or elliptical cast. 56:26 - Mike provides advice for beginners, emphasizing the importance of listening to guides, being patient, and practicing casting. He stresses the quality of equipment provided and recommends following gear guidelines to ensure a smooth experience. He mentions that while summer is the peak season, the chances of encountering other anglers are low, providing a serene and almost exclusive fishing experience. For those who are interested in smallmouth fishing with Mike's crew, enter our trip and gear giveaway through this link or learn more about it here. 1:04:00 - We get into sports. Mike's children participate in travel baseball and recently played in an amateur tournament in Omaha He mentions that baseball consumes most of their weekends in spring but is enjoyable and educational for the kids.  Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/656 

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/654 Presented By:  Visit Helena, MT, Togiak River Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Waters West You may have heard of today's guest from the books and content he's written about spey and steelhead fishing. But did you know that he also has an amazing book on another hard-to-master species? Today, we'll walk through the biggest tips from this book so that you might have a better shot at a giant musky this season. Rick Kustich, author of Hunting Musky with a Fly, is here to share his top tips on landing that elusive musky. You'll learn how to tease a strike, where most fish occur, and the three key tips to keep the big one on the line. Ready to profile a predator musky style? Show Notes with Rick Kustich on Hunting Musky with a Fly 01:31 - It's been over a year since we had Rick on the podcast, where we talked about spey fishing and steelhead. Rick had a pretty good year with lots of good steelhead and musky fishing. But he did shake things up with a trip to Patagonia in South America to target sea-run brown trout. Hunting Musky with a Fly 04:35 - Today, we will discuss Rick's book Hunting Musky with a Fly. It's a great resource for anyone interested in musky fishing. You can contact Rick through his website or Instagram for a signed, personalized copy of the book. The book can also be found at various fly shops, bookstores, and, of course, on Amazon. 07:06 - Rick pitched the idea of the book around 2013, but it was turned down because musky fly fishing wasn't popular yet. By 2017, with more people getting into musky fishing, Rick's book Hunting Musky with a Fly was finally released. Why Muskies Are So Hard to Catch 09:06 - Muskies are one of the hardest freshwater fish to catch consistently. They don't need to feed often and have specific feeding windows during the day. 12:19 - Rick explains that understanding Muskies as apex predators is key. They’re picky eaters, so anglers need to trigger them into striking. He suggests using the figure-eight technique, even when you don't see a fish following your fly. 18:05 - Rick also mentions that while figure eight is his go-to, you must also read the fish's behavior. For example, a slow, teasing retrieve can be as effective if the fish seems interested but isn't taking the bait immediately. Water clarity plays a big role too. 22:12—New York offers a diverse muskie fishery with different strains, including the Great Lakes strain found in the Niagara River. Muskies are native to this area and have various strains in various locations. While their original range was in the Northeast and Midwest, they’ve been stocked in many other places, including Nebraska and the western states. Tiger muskies, a hybrid between pike and musky, are also found out west. Keeping Your Head in the Game 25:57 - Stay focused during those long days when you might not catch any fish. It can be tough, especially if you're new and questioning everything. But experience teaches you that each cast brings you closer to a catch. Stay engaged, and keep your energy up. Even when it’s slow, every cast counts, and being ready could lead to the catch of a lifetime. How to Find the Best Spots for Muskies 28:45 - Muskies usually stick close to food sources, so look for areas with plenty of bait. In big waters like the Niagara River, focus on edges and structures like weed beds and drop-offs. Look for log jams, overhanging brush, and slower water spots for smaller rivers. Muskies often hang out in these areas to save energy and ambush prey. Casting for Muskies 41:52 - For big, open water, like deep rivers, you must make long casts to keep your fly down longer. Rick uses a two-handed rod, around 9.5 feet long, with a heavy line for distance and depth. Use the bottom hand to pull and the top hand to guide for speed. After retrieving the fly, sweep the rod to get some line out, then use one or two false casts to get it back in the water. A shorter rod and quick casts help reduce wear on your body and improve efficiency. 51:00 - Rick explains that most fish hit within the first few strips of the fly. For casting, Rick uses a heavy, short-headed line, about 22 to 23 feet long, which helps get the fly deep quickly. 55:12 - Rick says using a back-and-forth retrieve with your fly and making it look vulnerable can trigger strikes. He stresses the importance of strip setting to get a good hook set because muskies have tough mouths. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/654  

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/653 Presented By: Waters West, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee, Visit Helena, MT Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors    In this episode, Ronan Creane, a renowned fly fishing guide with deep ties to Ireland, is here to talk all about fly fishing New Zealand. Ronan specializes in sight fishing for brown trout and has been a passionate fly angler for decades, following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather. If you've ever dreamt of casting your line in the pristine waters of New Zealand, this episode is a must-listen. Ronan takes us on an in-depth journey through the best fishing spots, the ideal times to visit, and expert tips on sight fishing for those elusive big browns. You'll also learn why a trip to New Zealand might be more attainable than you think, and how to make the most of your adventure without suffering from jet lag. Episode Chapters with Ronan Creane on Fly Fishing New Zealand 2:04 - Ronan shares his background, explaining he grew up in Ireland and moved to New Zealand at age 24. His earliest fishing memories involve catching tiny trout in a stream near his house using a jam jar and a net. Fly fishing runs in his family, with his father and grandfather being skilled fly fishermen. Although introduced to it gradually, he received his first fly rod at age 12 from his grandfather. 8:21 - He worked as a guide on two iconic salmon and sea trout fisheries in Ireland, starting at age 18. He continued guiding during visits home while exploring fly fishing globally. He highlights the decline of sea trout fishing in Ireland, which began in the late 1980s to early 1990s, coinciding with the rise of salmon farming. 12:28 - We start to dig into fly fishing in New Zealand, specifically in the small town of Alexandra on the South Island. Ronan describes his work as a guide, focusing mainly on brown trout, although rainbow trout are also present in the rivers and lakes he fishes. He emphasizes that his fishing is mostly river-based, but he also enjoys lake fishing due to his background. The average fish he targets weighs around three to four pounds. He aims for larger fish, typically five to six pounds, and mentions that he and his clients have caught around 20 double-figure fish. 15:11 - We talk about some sight fishing techniques, particularly in rivers. Ronan explains that the ideal scenario is finding a fish "on station," meaning it's feeding in one spot, which gives the angler time to plan their approach. He contrasts this with a fish that is cruising, which requires a different, more dynamic strategy. The key to success in New Zealand, according to Ronan, is making the first cast accurately. Multiple attempts can alert the fish, making it harder to catch. 18:30 - Ronan explains his preference for using a dry fly as an indicator since fish can take a dry fly at any time of the year. However, he notes that if a fish is swinging, it’s more likely to take a nymph. He also describes the importance of watching the dry fly for any movement indicating a strike, but he also stresses the value of directly observing the fish’s mouth if visible to catch subtle takes that the dry fly might not indicate. 20:39 - We talk about the fishing opportunities in New Zealand, particularly in the South Island. Ronan elaborates on various regions such as Mackenzie District (known for lakes and rivers), the West Coast (wild and remote), Southland (with numerous rivers), and Otago (where Ronan is based, offering a variety of fishing experiences). He mentions the availability of brown trout and sea trout, noting that sea trout, which migrate to the ocean and return, can grow significantly larger, sometimes up to 15 pounds. 23:00 - Ronan has been part of Sexyloops since around 2003, not long after its establishment in 1998. Their collaboration began when Ronan met Paul during the filming of an early fishing movie, leading to friendship and numerous fishing trips together, especially to New Zealand. 24:40 - I ask about the allure of New Zealand as a fishing destination. He highlights the country's exceptional freedom for anglers, where a single license allows fishing in various public waters. He emphasized the "queen chain" concept, which grants public access to 22 yards of either bank of a river, provided the access point is public. 28:04 - As a member of the New Zealand Professional Fishing Guides Association (NZPFGA), Ronan mentions that there are about 140 guides spread across both islands of New Zealand, which he believes is sufficient to meet the demand. 29:07 - Our conversation shifts to his blog, which he has been writing for about 15 years as part of Sexyloops. The blog includes approximately 350 entries, focusing on his observations of fishing rather than instructional content. 30:21 - We talk about Ronan's involvement in a TV series called "Pure Fly NZ", produced by Nick Reygaert. Ronan and his friend Jeff Forsee participated in one episode, showcasing unique fly fishing experiences in New Zealand, which deviated from the typical fishing scenes in the country. 31:25 - For those planning a fishing trip to New Zealand, Ronan explains that the fishing season runs from October to the end of May, with each month offering unique opportunities. While January and February are popular, they can be challenging due to heat and increased angling pressure. Ronan suggests considering earlier months like October  to December, which are cooler and less crowded. 33:53 - We go into the fishing trips available on Ronan's website. He recommends staying as long as possible, ideally a month, and emphasizes the value of starting the trip with a guide for a few days to get a good foundation. For those planning a trip specifically to catch big brown trout, he clarifies that the definition of "big" varies among anglers, typically considered to be around 5-7 pounds. While these sizes are common, catching a double-figure fish is unrealistic due to the rarity of such large trout. He notes that targeting the biggest fish can sometimes detract from the enjoyment of the fishing itself, turning it more into a hunt. 37:53 - Ronan explains his approach to organizing a seven-day fishing trip, which is popular among his regular clients. For the first three days, they fish locally, exploring medium-sized rivers, small streams, and lakes, including sight fishing on lakes. The remaining four days involve traveling to different locations based on the best fishing conditions at the time, allowing flexibility to adapt to weather and other variables. 40:46 - He mentions that the best mayfly hatches occur in the cooler months, particularly April and October. However, during the summer months of January to February, terrestrial fishing becomes ideal, with cicadas, hoppers, and beetles providing excellent opportunities for dry fly fishing. 43:00 - Ronan shares a story about the time he and Paul Arden of Sexyloops were in the midst of putting together a TV show with the Discovery Channel. 48:40 - If given a chance to travel elsewhere, Ronan would like to visit Paul in Malaysia for fly fishing. He shares his experiences of fishing there, emphasizing that it's a challenging but rewarding activity suited for seasoned fly fishers who appreciate the sport beyond catching large numbers of fish. 52:15 - Ronan gives some valuable tips on sight fishing for brown trout. He suggests that anglers should practice accurate short-range casting before the trip, as fishing usually occurs within 40 feet. He emphasizes the importance of remaining calm, especially when encountering large trout, which can cause nervousness. He also advises anglers to trust their practiced skills and to focus on casting ahead of the fish rather than directly at it. 53:12 - Ronan mentions he primarily uses a 6wt rod, specifically the Hot Torpedo, which is designed for New Zealand fishing. For fly lines, he's not particular about brands as long as the line is correctly weighted to match the rod. 56:49 - Ronan recounts a memorable story where his grandfather won a sea trout competition with a large salmon in Ireland. We also talk about his efforts to pass the sport to his kids. 1:00:12 - He also shares a memory about his father visiting and their fishing tradition. His father has visited about ten times, and during each visit, they used to fish every day for 30 days straight. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/653 

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/652 Presented By:  Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Angler's Coffee, Stonefly Nets   What if I told you there's a place where you can fish the same waters as Lee Wulff and have a great chance at catching an Atlantic salmon on the fly? Today, we will dive into the rich history and present-day fly fishing Newfoundland with the head guides from Mountain Waters Resort, Ryan & Les Wentzell and Rod Brophy. You'll discover the secrets of fishing the riffle hitch, why you should stay put in the pools instead of stepping down, and even why 4-lb tippet is the go-to at certain times of the year. Plus, learn how to hook a giant Atlantic salmon like Lee Wulff did. Show Notes with Ryan, Les, and Rod on Fly Fishing Newfoundland.  02:35 - Ryan grew up at the lodge, which his parents, Les and Paulette Wentzell, and two other couples purchased. The 170-acre property was originally owned by Lee Wulff. 05:23 - The lodge is in Daniels Arbor, Newfoundland, a small town with a rich fishing history. After nearly 30 years of operation, Ryan took over the lodge in 2019 and has been upgrading it ever since. The Riffling Hitch  10:05 - Rod uses surface fishing with dry flies, like bombers, all year long. The riffling hitch creates a wake on the water, which makes it easier to spot the fish. This method is better than just using a regular wet fly. Rod mentioned that even big fish, up to 40 pounds, have been caught using this technique, and it’s essential for consistent success. 20:17 - Les shares that Lee Wulff flew his float plane from New York to Newfoundland in the 1940s. He explored the rivers and set up fishing operations, including at Portland Creek. When a road was built nearby in 1956, Lee moved on to other projects. 28:11 - Rod shared how you can still fish in the spots where Lee Wulff used to catch fish. Many spots are still popular today. The area also offers amazing trout fishing, especially in nearby lakes. Fly Fishing Newfoundland 30:02 - Ryan explained how people get to their fishing location. Most folks fly into Deer Lake Regional Airport, about two hours from the fishing area. Once they arrive, Ryan's team picks them up, and they can start fishing immediately. Some people drive all the way, but that takes longer with a 10-hour ferry ride from Nova Scotia. 32:52 - Most guests focus on Atlantic salmon, but there’s also great brook trout fishing in the area.  They can also visit spots like the River of Ponds and see salmon at Hawke's Bay. Plus, if you're interested in cod fishing, that’s an option too. 35:04 - Rod says that catching Atlantic salmon is very likely, even for new anglers. He suggests using a 9 ft 9 wt rod and casting at a 45-degree angle across the river. The key is to adjust to the conditions and pay attention to the guide’s tips for a successful catch. 40:46 - Rod advises staying in one spot for at least an hour when fishing for Atlantic salmon. He explained that fish often settle in large pools, and you might be fishing over 25 to 30 fish in one spot. Ryan shares a cool story about Henry Green, who fished at their place from 1957 to 2022. Henry was a big part of their history; loved salmon fishing and bird watching. Check out this video of Henry Green. 1:00:13 - Ryan highlights all the cool stuff to do in Newfoundland besides fishing. Gros Morne National Park is close by with boat tours and hiking. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/652

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/650  Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, TroutRoutes, Togens Fly Shop, Togiak River Lodge Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors   In this episode, we'll chat with Nick Yardley, the president of Fulling Mill. We dive deep into the fascinating story of how Fulling Mill became a leader in the UK and US markets, sharing insights on their top fly patterns and the meticulous process that ensures only the best end up in your fly box. We also explore stillwater fishing, with Nick offering expert tips and his favorite flies for targeting brook trout in the Northeast. Additionally, you'll hear about his passion for the Great Lakes and why this region holds a special place in his heart for salmon and steelhead fishing. Join us as we uncover these topics and more, giving you the knowledge to enhance your fly fishing adventures this season. Don't miss out on this insightful conversation with Nick Yardley from Fulling Mill! Episode Chapters with Nick Yardley on Fulling Mill 1:38 - Nick shares his personal journey into fly fishing, starting from a young age with course fishing in Yorkshire, England. His interest shifted to fly fishing during a family visit to Dorset, where a gamekeeper introduced him to the sport. This experience led him to sell his match fishing gear and buy his first fly rod, albeit an unsuitable one. However, he later received a more appropriate and cherished split cane fly rod from a relative, which solidified his passion for fly fishing. 4:34 - We talk about his move from Britain to the United States in 1986. Nick explains that he didn't find the job market in Britain appealing due to high unemployment and general discontent at the time. Seeking adventure, he pursued a path in the US, leveraging his background in climbing. 8:22 - We explore the history of Fulling Mill. Its origins date back to the 1930s when Denis Whetham, a British schoolboy, took up fly tying after a rugby accident left him paralyzed. Upon returning to his family home in Kenya, he garnered local interest and even received commercial orders, leading him to pursue fly tying passionately. Fulling Mill's flies are now widely available across US fly shops, and in 2023, they introduced a new range of fly tying materials, further solidifying their market presence. 18:00 - Nick mentions that Fulling Mill aims to be a one-stop shop for fly fishing, catering to various needs across different regions, although trout fishing constitutes 80% of their business. He also highlights their innovative approach with Euro nymphing flies, offering different weights for the same fly size and enhancing the consumer experience. Furthermore, Fulling Mill is planning to introduce a new range of flies for warm water and specific regions by 2025, including patterns for strikers in the northeast and shrimp patterns for the Caribbean and Belize. 22:31 - Nick discusses the process of understanding market needs and providing appropriate products for fly fishing. He says that the strong feedback comes from retail stores and their servicing reps, as different territories have unique demands. He mentions Devin Olsen, a well-known figure in fly fishing who is both a signature fly tier and a shop owner, highlighting how his flies have broad national appeal. 24:18 - We dig into brook trout fishing, focusing on effective flies and ideal locations. Nick recommends using size 14, highly floatable dry flies with foam bodies, mentioning specific types like little chernobyls, ants, and beetles. He explains that when fishing for brook trout in the White Mountains of New Hampshire during the hot summer months, small black beetles work well due to the cold streams. 31:09 - Nick describes their operation in Kenya as well-established, employing about 215 people who are provided with healthcare and a retirement program, making it a desirable place to work. Most employees are around 40 years old and have been with the company for 15-20 years, showcasing their experience. 33:07 - Nick shares his experiences fishing in the Gaspe region, noting the high quality of public waters and the strong salmon stocks. He also mentions the ease of planning a fishing trip in Quebec using resources like the website saumongaspe.com. 40:00 - He finds the Great Lakes steelhead fishing to be remarkable, especially on the Salmon River. Nick says that in salmon fishing, traditionally, single-handed rods with streamers were used, but now many anglers are using two-handed rods for swinging. This method is becoming popular on the Salmon River, where it is effective for covering extensive water quickly and efficiently with big rods and classic West Coast salmon flies. 42:14 - For Atlantic salmon in rivers like the Dartmouth, York, and Saint John, Nick typically uses a 12.5ft 7wt rod, which suits most conditions. However, in narrower sections of the York River, he switches to an 11ft switch rod or a 10ft 7wt single-handed rod. For fishing in the Great Lakes, he often uses either the 11ft switch rod or the 12.5ft 7wt rod rod, which are versatile enough to cover most of his needs. 45:27 - He recommends some fly patterns to bring when you're planning to go on a fishing trip in the Gaspe for Atlantic Salmon. 47:52 - We get into fishing for brook trout in the White Mountains and the types of flies used. For flies, Nick explains that it largely depends on the fishing location and personal preference. He prefers using a dry fly setup, typically starting in July and continuing through August until the waters become too cold. 50:30 - Nick expresses a strong desire to fish in Scandinavia, specifically targeting salmon, trout, and grayling, as he has never fished there before. He notes that the salmon fisheries in Scandinavia are collapsing this year, so he would likely wait until they recover. He also mentions other destinations he wants to explore. 58:02 - For stillwater fishing, Nick suggests using a floating crane fly or dry fly crane fly, commonly known as "daddy long legs" in Britain, noting their high effectiveness despite being underutilized in other regions. He also recommends the diawl bach, a classic Welsh fly known for its consistent performance. 58:39 - We get into the random segment where I ask him about his morning drink preference. Nick reveals that he's a big tea drinker, preferring Yorkshire tea. He explains that a proper cup of tea requires a teapot, boiling water poured over the tea, and some milk. He does not recommend using an old tea bag and warm water since it doesn't produce a good cup of tea. 1:00:37 - Nick enjoys a mixture of both podcast and music, but he also listens to a lot of audiobooks. He likes listening to The Stranglers, a band he grew up with in Britain. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/650