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What The Fraud?

What The Fraud?

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Why do smart people fall for scams? How do fraudsters earn our trust? And why do their tricks keep working, even when we know the warning signs?


Join investigative journalist Vicky Baker as she explores the human side of fraud, uncovering the stories, tactics, and decisions behind today's most compelling scams.

From romance fraud and identity theft to AI-powered deception and online manipulation, What The Fraud?, a podcast by Sumsub, brings together real-life stories and expert perspectives to understand how fraud works, why people fall victim, and what we can do to stop it.


Because fraud isn't just about technology or money. It's about people, trust, and the ways both can be exploited.


What The Fraud? — where digital fraudsters meet their match.


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From Sumsub and This Is Distorted

Presented by Vicky Baker

Produced by Faye Lyons-White, This Is Distorted

Editor – Dave Reilly, This Is Distorted

Executive Producer – Alex Jungius, This Is Distorted

Executive Producer – Mila Varavina, Sumsub


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Meet Vicky Baker, the new host of What The Fraud? from Sumsub.An investigative journalist specialising in fraudsters and con artists, Vicky is fascinated by the stories beneath the scams. The trust people place in others, the psychology behind manipulation, and the moments when a lie becomes believable.In season six, What The Fraud? looks beyond the technology and headline figures to explore the personal side of fraud. Why do we trust someone who is trying to steal from us? What makes any of us vulnerable? And what would it take to stop the crime before the money moves?The new season of What The Fraud? with Vicky Baker. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
“Customers don't choose between security and convenience. They expect both."Africa's payments, banking, and digital commerce ecosystem is expanding at extraordinary speed, and fraud is scaling right alongside it. In this special episode of What the Fraud?, recorded live at Seamless Africa in Johannesburg, Chantal Lamprecht from Sumsub sits down with leaders across telecoms, mobile money, and digital banking to unpack how fraud actually works on the ground in Africa, and what it will take for the industry to stay ahead.Our guests include:Kgabo Seopa (Managing Executive: Products & Solutions, Vodacom Business) on the shift from telco to "techco" and why cybersecurity is now core to that transformation, the AI-versus-AI arms race between fraud teams and fraudsters ("it's a war that no one is a winner"), and why South Africa needs a SABRIC-style information-sharing body for telecoms and merchants, not just banks.Pulane Motlokoa (Group Senior Manager, Enterprise Risk, MTN) on embedding risk into product design from day one instead of treating it as a final checkpoint, why fraudsters increasingly target human psychology rather than technology itself, and how MTN standardizes risk principles across diverse African markets while leaving room for local flexibility.Bonolo Sebolai (Fraud Prevention, GoTymeBank) on why roughly 80% of fraud ultimately comes down to manipulating human psychology, what it really means to integrate AI "vertically" into a bank's fraud strategy, and why customer relationships, not technology alone, are a bank's real competitive edge against fraudsters.Links:Sumsub's Website: sumsub.comSumsub's LinkedIn: linkedin.com/sumsubSumsub's Instagram: instagram.com/sumsubcomSumsub on X: x.com/SumsubcomSumsub's YouTube Channel: youtube.com/@sumsubcomKgabo Seopa on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kgabo-seopa-139a6b8/Pulane Motlokoa on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/pulane-motlokoa-ca-sa/Bonolo Sebolai on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bonolo-s-83a5aa90/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
"The fraudsters have the same AI tools we do. The difference is who uses them faster."Africa's payments, banking, and digital commerce ecosystem is expanding at extraordinary speed, and fraud is scaling right alongside it. In this special episode of What The Fraud?, recorded live at Seamless Africa in Johannesburg, Chantal Lamprecht from Sumsub sits down with leaders across crypto, legal, and iGaming to unpack how fraud actually works on the ground in Africa, and what it will take for the industry to stay ahead.Our guests include:John Jacobs (Head of Financial Crime, VALR) on why crypto fraud runs on the same decades-old typologies as traditional finance, just faster and borderless, why attribution, not tracing, is the hardest part of on-chain investigations, and why Africa's crypto adoption boom is fueling a rise in money mule recruitment.Larry Cooke (Larry Cooke, Africa Head of Legal at Binance) on the regulatory gaps opening up as crypto credit products emerge, why "thoughtful" regulation beats "more" regulation, the rise of P2P fraud and reverse chargebacks, and why closing the trust gap between regulators, exchanges, and users is the real work ahead.Mandy Alexander (Head of Financial Crime and Customer Care Product, DigiOutsource / Super Group) on 20 years watching iGaming fraud teams evolve from chargeback-chasers into full-blown "FRAML" operations, why friction should only ever be justified by data, and why patience, not chasing shiny new tools, is what actually delivers ROI from AI and automation.Links:Sumsub's Website: sumsub.comSumsub's LinkedIn: linkedin.com/sumsubSumsub's Instagram: instagram.com/sumsubcomSumsub on X: x.com/SumsubcomSumsub's YouTube Channel: youtube.com/@sumsubcomJohn Jacobs on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/john-jacobs-87b183122Larry Cooke on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/larry-cooke-38390b115Mandy Alexander on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mandy-alexander-8560a2a Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Cryptocurrency didn't invent financial fraud, but it changed how money moves and how criminals exploit it. Now, with new US legislation on the table, the industry faces a bigger question: can a system built on decentralization ever become trusted infrastructure?In this episode of What The Fraud, Tom sits down with the hosts of Crypto in America: Eleanor Terrett, Jacquelyn Melinek, and Gerald Gallagher, for a special crossover episode closing out Season 5.Together they unpack the Genius Act and Clarity Act and what they actually mean for stablecoins, market structure, and consumer protection, why institutions are finally treating crypto as a technology rather than a speculative bet, the surge in DeFi hacks driven by social engineering rather than code exploits, and the growing conversation around privacy, AI agents, and programmable payments as the next frontier.They also get personal, sharing their own brushes with fraud, the online behaviors they'd ban forever, and where they think crypto will be in ten years.Whether you work in fraud, fintech, payments, or policy, this episode offers a candid look at what it will really take for crypto to earn the public's trust.Sumsub's Website: sumsub.comSumsub's LinkedIn: linkedin.com/sumsubSumsub's Instagram: instagram.com/sumsubcomSumsub on X: x.com/SumsubcomSumsub's YouTube Channel: youtube.com/@sumsubcomThomas Taraniuk on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tomtaraniukEleanor Terrett on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/eleanor-terrett-b9a77292Jacquelyn Melinek on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinekGerald Gallagher on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/gerald-gallagher-285040b6 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
"What happens when the moment of truth isn't onboarding - it's the moment the money moves?"Businesses pour resources into KYC, fraud modelling, and onboarding checks. But fraud doesn't really happen until the money goes out, and by then, it's often too late to get it back.This week's guest is Apurva Shrivastava, Product Lead for Global Payments Product at Amazon. He breaks down why payout fraud is one of the most underestimated risks in the industry, and why "we caught it at onboarding" isn't enough on its own.We cover the three phases of cash-out fraud: Account farming, waiting for a trigger event, and burst execution, why payout fraud often gets booked as an "operational loss" instead of a fraud loss, and what a disbursement-time identity assurance score could look like in practice.As Apurva puts it: platforms have to be right every time. Fraudsters only need to be right once.Sumsub's Website: sumsub.comSumsub's LinkedIn: linkedin.com/sumsubSumsub's Instagram: instagram.com/sumsubcomSumsub on X: x.com/SumsubcomSumsub's YouTube Channel: youtube.com/@sumsubcomThomas Taraniuk on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tomtaraniukApurva Shrivastava on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/apurva-shrivastava/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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