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What do we do and why do we do it?

To paraphrase Augustine, the questions are shallow enough for a child not to drown, but deep enough for an elephant to swim. (Augustine didn't have a podcast. He was talking about the Bible.)

The idea of What and Why with Max Roth is to spend some time with people who dive into deep waters and learn from them.

I'll be the child trying to swim with elephants.

Some of those elephants will be eminent scholars. Others will have life stories I want to hear.

Hopefully you'll want to hear them too, and they'll still be talking to me after seeing I've called them elephants.

16 Episodes
Does gratitude ever feel like a burden? It does to me. I think I should just naturally feel grateful, but I don't. In this weeks episode, bestselling author and historian Diana Butler Bass takes us on her journey to learn about gratitude at a time she didn't feel all that grateful herself. It's a worthwhile and fun journey. Her insight helped me and I hope it helps you too!
Computer stolen edition! :(

Computer stolen edition! :(


Ugh. Computer stolen, which I realized as I prepared to upload the episode on GRATITUDE. Hey, could be worse. I'm grateful that you listen and the audio's on the cloud. God bless you all, even the a$$&^*!$ who took my Powerbook.
WHY!!?? That's the question that comes to my mind when I hear about 100 mile runs. Any running race longer than a marathon (26.2 miles) is considered an ultra run or an ultra race. While it sounds downright insane to a lot of people, it's a genuine phenomenon with races through deserts, over mountains or just around and around the same track or city block. And if you're like me, maybe there's a corner of your mind where you're intrigued with the idea of learning how far you can really go. Adharanand Finn tried, and found out, and he shares his story.
Tequila has been through a lot of transformation...not so much the drink itself, whose distillers pride themselves on consistent quality through the years. The transformation has been in it's role in Mexican and world culture. Alternately appreciated as the refined beverage of the hacienda and derided as an elixir of iniquity with body-shot fueled spring breaks. Sociologist Marie Sarita Gaytan guides us through the history and meaning of Tequila as we sample some common varieties. She's the perfect person for the job because she wrote the book, Tequila, Distilling the Spirit of Mexico.
American Sumo

American Sumo


What exactly is Sumo? Why do people participate? This week four American Sumo wrestlers sit down to talk about why they chose a sport most of us think of as a curiosity from Japan. Trent Sabo has won silver and bronze at the world amateur championships. Cornelius Booker is the reigning American Lightweight champ. Heavyweight Mark Naas is in his first year in the sport. Carl Papalardo is 51 and no longer competing after several injuries.
Brothels, paparazzi, Cinnabon big wigs and felons...What do they all have in common? They all provide excellent examples of people dealing with risk to varying degrees of success. Allison Schrager is an economist who decided to spend some time in all of these worlds in order to write a very entertaining handbook for those of us who are not that good at figuring out when it's worth taking that big step. Oh, and I got a great assist from my son Jackson!
You've felt the believe strongly that recycling is important to cut down on resource extraction, but with no bin at work, it's just too much to haul all the cans home.You believe in taking responsibility for mistakes, but if you own up to scratching that car, it may cost you hundreds of dollars your family can't afford. That pang can be called "dissonance."In the book, Mistakes were Made (But Not by Me) Elliot Aronson and Carol Tavris say, "Cognitive dissonance is a state of tension that occurs whenever a person holds two cognitions (ideas, attitudes, beliefs, opinions) that are psychologically inconsistent, such as "Smoking is a dumb thing to do because it could kill you" and "I smoke two packs a day." Elliot Aronson has written too many books to list, and is one of the most honored and cited psychologists of all time. His co-author on Mistakes were made calls him the "father of self-justification theory." Our conversation ranges from the political to the personal, and I mix in an interview I did with a Congressman who confronted me, saying I was ignoring facts. Hopefully you'll find it as interesting as I did!
Jonathan Metzl looks at the outcomes of politics based on a backlash against perceived outsiders. The theory sounds provocative, but the book is really just full of individual stories and statistics. He says gun policy is based on the need for protection when the majority of gun deaths are white men killing themselves. He says choosing to block the Affordable Care Act's Medicaid expansion is often justified as not using tax dollars to subsidize groups of people perceived as lazy, but mortality statistics show white working class Americans are living longer and in better health in states that did expand Medicaid.I mix in some pieces of relevant debates in the legislature where I live because the issues in the book are so relevant in my state (Utah) and in communities around the U.S.Jonathan Metzl is the Frederick B. Rentschler II Professor of Sociology and Psychiatry at Vanderbilt University and director of its Center for Medicine, Health, and Society. He is the author of several books and a prominent expert on gun violence and mental illness.
Barbara Brown Taylor wrote Holy Envy, Finding God in the Faith of Others as a memoir of her time teaching Religion 101 to students at Piedmont College in Georgia. Taylor is an Episcopal Priest who worked in two congregations before going to work full-time as a professor.Taylor and I talk about our shared experiences as divinity students with a bit of an egghead bent. We talk about how her students changed over the years, and how she changed alongside them by learning from the experiences she organized for the class. We talk about the nature of a religious calling, the role of faith in the lives of modern youth, and how to balance sincere devotion in one's own faith to an openness to the wisdom of others. She's warm, fun, and engaging.You'll also hear from two of my great students from the youth group I coordinate at my church. I asked Luke and Madison about some of the subjects in the book, to get a little bit of a case study of today's young adults. They are a couple years younger than the students in Taylor's classes, but they had terrific insight.
Sociologist Tony Campolo has preached to tens of thousands of people, he's taught in the Ivy League, he's counseled a President of the United States and he's been tried for heresy. Rudyard Kipling could have been talking about Campolo when he wrote, "If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue/or walk with kings, nor lose the common touch." Campolo has written bestsellers and he's founded a significant movement in American Protestantism but he never comes across as anything but the Italian kid from Philly who wears his heart on his sleeve. You'll hear his thoughts about the modern church and gay rights, about his friendship with Hillary Clinton despite disagreements, and you'll even hear him invite you to the little church he's been pastoring.
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