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In a world where everyone carries a camera in their pocket and AI-generated images flood the internet, When Harri met Sally – A Photography Podcast aims to explore what it truly means to be a photographer today.

Co-hosted by Harriet Tarbuck from Photo Collective and Sally Brownbill from The Brownbill Effect, this exciting new podcast delves into the motivations, challenges, and joys of a life dedicated to photography. Through candid conversations with friends of the duo, Harri and Sally will engage listeners in thought-provoking discussions with humour and robust conversations about their photography journeys.

The first season, featuring 12 episodes, offers a diverse lineup of guests from various photography fields including photojournalism, commercial, documentary, and art-based photography.

With a lighthearted, conversational tone, When Harri met Sally creates a space for photographers, students, and creative enthusiasts alike to reflect, learn, and connect. From exploring the intricacies of participating in festivals to navigating professional challenges, this podcast is set to become a must-listen for anyone passionate about photography and the creative process.

Find out more about your hosts at photocollective.com.au and thebrownbilleffect.com.
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We were so thrilled to get back into the pod suits to have a wonderful chat with Teresa Marino, Professional and Retail Sales Consultant at Teds Cameras.  Teds Cameras is a sponsor of When Harri met Sally this season, and it was just wonderful to get to hear the other fantastic work Teds does in the community.  Teresa and Teds have an incredible offer for the When Harri met Sally audience.  “Thanks for tuning in to When Harri Met Sally. If today’s episode sparked your creative side, we’ve got something special for you. Listeners get an exclusive offer from Ted’s Camera Store. Just mention the episode when you get in touch. Contact Teresa at teresam@teds.com.au or call Teresa directly on 0433 116 472 Don’t forget to mention: When Harri Met Sally, Ted’s Camera Store Episode, to unlock the offer!” We can’t thank Teds enough for the support they have shown us, and Teresa for her time on the podcast.
S02 E12 - Nic Kocher

S02 E12 - Nic Kocher

2025-07-1447:15

In our final episode of Season 2 we have an incredibly interesting conversation with Nic Kocher about photography, its past and its future. Nic has worked in news photography, is at the forefront of new technologies merging with an artistic practice and is an educator.    “I have a practice in teaching where I like to see how the students see the world.”   Nic is the Convenor of Screen Media at Photography Studies College, where he develops and leads innovative courses that prepare students for the evolving media landscape. With a career spanning over two decades, Nic began as a staff photographer at The Age, capturing compelling images for feature stories and magazine spreads. Since transitioning to freelance work, he has collaborated with major clients, including government departments and corporate entities, while also specialising in time-lapse photography and projection-based media art. His creative projects, such as The Absurdity of Infinity, showcased at Melbourne’s White Night Festival, highlight his ability to merge artistic vision with technical expertise. A passionate educator, Nic explores the intersection of AI and image-making, researching how emerging technologies are reshaping visual storytelling.  As a writer, he contributes thought-provoking insights on photography and technology through Medium, Substack, and The Age, engaging a global audience in discussions about the future of media. Holding a Master’s in Visual Art from Monash University, Nic's work critically examines how AI is transforming creative practice, making art more accessible while challenging traditional boundaries.   “Trusted institutions will play a bigger role in the future, they curate photography and that’s where we should be looking for real photography.”   Tune into the final episode of Season 2 where we have been asking all our guests what the future of photography looks like to them, and boy does Nic have some fascinating information on that!   Insta - @nic_kocher/ Medium - https://medium.com/@wayweroll   Thanks as always to our amazing sponsors Nikon Australia, Ted’s Cameras, Collarts and A&L Artistic Framers. We couldn't do this without your support so thank you so much once again.    
S02 E011 - Jon Webb

S02 E011 - Jon Webb

2025-07-0754:02

In our penultimate episode we speak to Jon Webb, a commercial and art based photographer, a filmmaker and a long time friend of Harri & Sally’s.    “I was born in Britain’s oldest town Camulodunum (now known as Colchester). After leaving High School I studied Photography at Berkshire College of Art & Design. In 1986 I moved to London and started assisting at Holborn Studios where I was lucky enough to work with some of my photographic heroes; Terence Donovan, David Bailey and Herb Ritts. In 1988 I spent a year backpacking around Australia and ended up in Melbourne. After assisting around the traps for a couple of years, I ended up at Decent Exposure Studios, where I would base myself for the next 25 years. I have shot stills campaigns nationally & internationally. In 2001 I tried my hand at film making; I shot my first feature length documentary in Australia and India. Since then, I have shot films and commercials in Australia, US, Lebanon and Europe. Today I still have that same passion for image making and storytelling I had when I started shooting. I consider myself one of the lucky ones that gets to do what one loves for a living.”   Tune in to listen to this real origin story of how Jon’s career started and all the twists and turns it has taken between then and now.    I’ve never said this is the direction I'm going in, it’s always been a little bit of falling into place. The trick is the right place with the right fit and relationships.   www.jonwebb.com.au @jonwebbphotography/   Thanks as always to our amazing sponsors Nikon Australia, Ted’s Cameras, Collarts and A&L Artistic Framers. We couldn't do this without your support so thank you so much once again.
Tune in this week to this wonderful conversation with Michael Jalaru Torres. Michael is an Indigenous fine art photographer and poet, as well as being a media professional from Broome, Western Australia. As a Djugun-Yawuru/ man with tribal connections to the Gooniyandi/Jabbir Jabbir/Ngarluma peoples, Michael is inspired by the unique landscapes and people of the Kimberley region, which feature prominently in his work. His photography draws on his own stories and personal history and explores contemporary social and political issues facing Indigenous people. Much of his work involves conceptual and innovative portraiture and abstract landscape photography. He is a self-taught photographer and was drawn to photography as a visual medium because of its accessibility and the challenge of capturing stories in single images. However, he is regularly experiment with different mediums. Michael is interested in expanding his photography into installations and motion work and pushing the boundaries of conceptual photography. Michael’s photography has appeared in exhibitions in China, Germany, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and regional Western Australia.   “You’ve got to follow your dreams, if you don’t follow them it’s just an idea.”    This is a heartfelt conversation full of warmth, that starts in Broome and travels right around Australia.  www.jalaru.com https://www.instagram.com/jalaruphotography/ Thanks as always to our amazing sponsors Nikon Australia, Ted’s Cameras, Collarts and A&L Artistic Framers. We couldn't do this without your support so thank you so much once again.
This week on the podcast we have two fabulous students from Collarts in Melbourne, Tom Golsworthy and our first returning guest, Matilda Baumann!   “I have more of a direction now. I really feel like I am going somewhere.” - Matilda   Tom is working primarily in the music industry and is just about to complete a Diploma in Photography at Collarts, after pursuing degrees in Law, Psychology and Journalism.  Matilda is a student photographer specialising in fashion and editorial photography. With a focus on vibrant, high-fashion aesthetics and experimental styling and visuals, she is always striving to push creative boundaries. For Matilda, the most rewarding part of her practice is witnessing the joy and confidence that shines through when her subjects see themselves reflected in her images.   “Capturing something that might only happen once or never happens again is really important” - Tom    @technicoloursuper888 @tomgolsworthy.jpeg/  http://tomgolsworthyphotography.myportfolio.com    This is such an engaging and inspirational conversation. We learnt so much from these intelligent and creative emerging artists.  Thanks as always to our amazing sponsors Nikon Australia, Ted’s Cameras, Collarts and A&L Artistic Framers. We couldn't do this without your support so thank you so much once again.      
This weeks guest on the podcast is Tajette O’Halloran and we couldn’t be more delighted! Tajette is an Australian photographic artist known for her evocative explorations of human connection within the suburban and rural landscapes of Australia. Blending conceptual and documentary practices, her work draws heavily on personal memory to construct cinematic, emotionally resonant scenes that reflect the universal complexities of adolescence, family, and place. Her long-term series In Australia is a deeply personal reflection on growing up in small-town Australia. Through a lens shaped by her own experiences, Tajette captures the nuance of unconventional family dynamics, peer structures, friendship, and hardship—building a body of work that feels both intimately local and globally relatable. The Quarry centers on an abandoned brickworks quarry in rural New South Wales that has transformed into a community swimming hole. Through traditional documentary photography, the series examines the shifting relationship between people, environment, and time, revealing the site as a living, evolving microcosm. Tajette is currently undertaking a 12-month commission with the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, where she is documenting nightlife in the Northern Rivers, NSW. In July, she will present her first solo exhibition at Hillvale Gallery in Melbourne. Her work also features in In Suburbia – Recent Detours at the S.H. Ervin Gallery in Sydney and Agenda: The Lipstick Effect at the Sydney Opera House for International Women’s Day. She is a finalist in the 2025 Galah Prize and has previously exhibited and curated as part of ACTS I–VII at Benalla Art Gallery for PHOTO 2022. Tajette is also a member of the Oculi Collective. “If you can conjure some kind of community with what you are doing, it’s so important.”    Web: www.tajetteohalloran.com/ Instagram: @tajette.ohalloran/ Thanks as always to our amazing sponsors Nikon Australia, Ted’s Cameras, Collarts and A&L Artistic Framers. We couldn't do this without your support so thank you so much once again.
S02 E07 - Erhan Tirli

S02 E07 - Erhan Tirli

2025-06-0941:08

On the podcast this week we have Erhan Tirli. An emerging photographer who shares his story of how he found his way into photography, and how he balances his personal photographic practice with starting a commercial one.  Erhan centres his practice around long-term ethnography of culturally and linguistically diverse (CALD) communities in Melbourne, Australia. Utilising a background in social work and psychology Erhan employs a collaborative approach to creating culturally intimate images of CALD people and communities. Erhan’s work can be characterised as expanded documentary that delves into the themes of cross-cultural identity and belonging. “What she taught me, knowing how to carry myself through this world, means inherently all of my images have an element of her in them, because I’m in them.” Tune in to hear how important Erhan’s family and community are to him, and the ideas he’s exploring around being a part of multiple cultures simultaneously.   @erhn.trl www.erhntrl.com Thanks as always to our amazing sponsors Nikon Australia, Ted’s Cameras, Collarts and A&L Artistic Framers. We couldn't do this without your support so thank you so much once again.  
Today we have the captivating documentary photographer and educator, Christina Simons on the show.  Icelandic-American Christina, is an acclaimed international documentary photographer with over 25 years of experience in the visual arts. Her work has been showcased in various countries, including the US, UK, UAE, Europe, Russia, and Mexico. Based in Australia, Christina's photography has been featured in prominent publications like The New York Times, BBC Online, Newsweek, and The Guardian UK. She has collaborated with humanitarian organisations such as Medicines Sans Frontiers, the UN, Marie Stopes, and UNICEF. Simons’ passion for social justice and compulsion to observe has resulted in striking bodies of work that offer unique visual commentary upon important social, environmental and cultural issues. Recently Christina has started teaching at Collarts in Melbourne. She shares with us her stories of her travels through work and life, and also about her role in education and mentoring.  “I feel like I needed to do something and I didn’t know what that looked like. And then eventually I started being a photographer, and all of those things came together, things that I cared about and have passion for.” Christina has a way of absorbing us into her stories and transporting us into that experience. Tune in to hear this fabulous conversation.  Website - christinasimons.com Instagram - @christinasimons LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinasimons Thanks as always to our amazing sponsors Nikon Australia, Ted’s Cameras, Collarts and A&L Artistic Framers. We couldn't do this without your support so thank you so much once again.  
S02 E03 - Carly Earl

S02 E03 - Carly Earl

2025-05-1248:19

This week on the podcast we have an incredibly engaging conversation with the exceptional person that is Carly Earl.  As the Picture Editor for The Guardian Australia, Carly works with the best photojournalists in the country. She is an award-winning photojournalist herself who has been working in the media for over twelve years. Carly's photography has accompanied some of The Guardian's biggest stories. Her passion is connecting an audience to the voiceless people of real news stories, while fostering a creative space for artists to showcase their best work to a global audience.  “That was my mission when I started at The Guardian, I said I want this to be the place that photographers want to work with.”  Tune in to this wonderful conversation to hear how Carly and her team advocate for not only the people whose stories they share, but for the photographers that work for The Guardian as well.  @piceditor.theguardian.au/ The Guardian Australia  Below are the links to some of the stories Carly mentions throughout the episode - Droving story Blacktown Thanks as always to our amazing sponsors Nikon Australia, Ted’s Cameras, Collarts and A&L Artistic Framers. We couldn't do this without your support so thank you so much once again.
In this episode we have the honour of speaking with Sally McInerney, daughter of Olive Cotton.  At the age of eight Sally was given an old Box Brownie camera by her great-aunt and learnt the elements of camera work from her mother. At aged 14, Sally bought a secondhand Yashicaflex and carried it around like a companion, observing beautiful, strange, sometimes quite unforeseen things. She has continued this practice of photography ever since, as a way of life. “I think photography is a way of living in the here and now, living in the moment, there’s no other moment but the one you're in… and your camera can be like your companion, or doppelganger, who's always with you.”  This is a truly special conversation. We hear not only about Sally’s journey through photography, but also some wonderful stories about growing up with her mother, Olive Cotton.  sallymcinerneyphotogaraphy.com.au @sallymcinerneyphotography @tweedregionalgallery  Profile picture credit - © Mohsen Soltani
Welcome back to When Harri met Sally! We’re so happy to be back in the pod suits again.  In this episode the two of us have an open, honest, and lively chat as we share what we've learnt from starting the podcast last year. We discuss what has happened since season one, some thoughts on the photography industry on a whole and the exciting plans ahead for season two. This season we are asking all our guests one common question - What does the future of photography look like to you? In this episode we kick things off answering that question ourselves.  Thanks for all the support you have shown us so far. We hope you love listening to Season 2 just just as much as we loved making it. thebrownbilleffect.com/ photocollective.com.au/  
Season 2 - Trailer

Season 2 - Trailer

2025-04-2701:56

Welcome back to Season Two of When Harri met Sally. We’re thrilled to bring you another twelve episodes of conversations with photographers working across Australia. New episodes every week.
Episode 7 explores the cinematic and surreal world of Samantha Everton. Known for her ‘magic realism,’ Samantha’s photography weaves vivid narratives that linger long after viewing. Join us as she shares how her award-winning art pushes the boundaries of reality and symbolism, creating a world that’s both uncanny and mesmerising. https://samanthaeverton.com/ https://www.instagram.com/samantha.everton/ 
We are so thrilled to have Jesse Marlow on podcast today.  Jesse is a Melbourne based photographer whose works are held in public and private collections across Australia, including the National Gallery of Victoria, Australian Parliament House Canberra, Monash Gallery of Art, City of Melbourne and State Library of Victoria. Jesse is known for his street photography and has published multiple photobooks including being one of 45 street photographers from around the world profiled in the book Street Photography Now. He was awarded the International Street Photographer of the Year Award in 2011 and in 2012 won the Monash Gallery of Art’s Bowness Prize. He is a member of the international street photographers’ collective UP Photographers, a Leica ambassador and manages the Leica Academy in Melbourne.  Jesse is a photographer that has diversified his business in so many different ways and it has been fascinating to hear how he has managed to stay so active in the photography industry. A wonderful conversation.  https://www.jessemarlow.com/ https://www.instagram.com/jessemarlow
This week we speak to the one and only Andrew Chapman!  Andrew started his photographic work in suburban newspapers and graduated to freelance work in the mid 1980s. His work has been widely published in newspapers, magazines and corporate periodicals both here in Australia and overseas. Andrew has exhibited across Australia as well as the US and France and his work can be found in National Institutions. He is the author of 10 photographic books. Fifty five years as a photographer has not blunted his enthusiasm. Andrew's wealth of knowledge and engaging stories had us completely enthralled. A wonderful conversation with a truly inspiring gentleman.  www.andrewchapmanphotography.com https://www.instagram.com/bigcheezoz/    
This week we speak to documentary family photographer Rowena Meadows. Rowena is a photographer, relational therapist and crazy bird lady. She sees her work (photographic and therapeutic) with families as an opportunity to validate, reframe and shift the way people see themselves, both as a system and as individuals. Rowena shares how her interest in psychology and photography go hand in hand through her process, and how this can be a therapy for both her and the sitters she works with. A truly heartwarming conversation.  https://www.rowenameadows.com.au/ https://www.instagram.com/rowenameadowsphoto/  
Welcome to episode two of When Harri met Sally! In this episode we have a conversation with Aishah Kenton and Sean Davey.  Aishah and Sean are innovative photographers, curators, and educators whose collaborative practices draw from a deep-rooted passion for documentary and observational photography. Their artistic visions centre on the intimacies of contemporary daily life and explores the nuanced intersection of personal experiences and broader social issues. This is a wonderful insight into their collaborative process and a discovery in why they are passionate about photography and working together in this way.  https://www.kentondavey.com.au/ https://www.instagram.com/kenton.davey/    
Welcome to When Harri met Sally - A Photography Podcast. In this introductory episode, Harriet Tarbuck and Sally Brownbill introduce why they have joined forces to launch this brand new podcast, featuring incredible guests from all areas of photography. In this first episode they reveal their backgrounds in the industry, how their podcast came to be and their love for the photography community. Within this twelve part series, Sally and Harriet's expertise and humour make each interview feel like a heartfelt conversation, all centered around the question of why, in this day and age changing photography, do we do what we do? When Harri Met Sally is a must-listen for anyone passionate about photography and creative practice within Australia, and further afield.    Find out more about your hosts at photocollective.com.au and thebrownbilleffect.com.
Take a sneak peek into the podcast of two Australian photography professionals, and great friends, Sally Brownbill of The Brownbill Effect and Harriet Tarbuck of Photo Collective.
We loved the last of our live Ballarat International Foto Biennale chats with Emily Raffaele. It was fun, informative and inspirational. It’s always energising to meet photographers making their mark at any stage of their career and Emily is one of them!  With a background in education, fine arts and a dabble in styling, Emily decided to study photography later in life and she’s been wowing everyone ever since with her talent, drive and attitude. Her work is stylish, bold, and graphic. Drawing on her love of art and design she has carved out a visual aesthetic that is molded by her strong sense of shape and form. In our chat, we explore her journey, inspirations and how she’s carved out such a strong visual voice. Check out Emily’s stunning work here - https://www.emilyraffaele.com/photography https://www.instagram.com/emily_raffaele/  
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