When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage speaks with Zalika U. Ibaorimi, PhD, about the complex intersections of race, gender, and sex work. They discuss how Blackness disrupts conventional categories of identity and the limitations of the term "sex worker" in encompassing the diverse experiences within the sex industry. The conversation delves into the historical and systemic dehumanization of marginalized bodies, particularly focusing on the concept of "no humans involved" as a police code and its broader implications in Black studies. Zalika, an anti-disciplinary artist and professor, shares insights from her projects exploring Black femme identities and the societal constructs of humanism. Together, they examine the relational dynamics within sex work, the politics of coalition building, and the nuanced realities of being labeled a "whore." Through laughter and lived experiences, the episode offers a profound exploration of identity, existence, and the ongoing struggle for recognition and rights in both academic and sex work communities. In this Episode: 04:16 - Introduction of guest Zalika U. Mbararimi, her background, and her work on Black sexualities and humanism. 05:08 - Jessie and Zalika discuss their involvement in a book project with Working Girls Press. 09:15 - Explanation of the term "No Humans Involved," its implications, and its relevance to Black studies and sex work. 28:28 - Discussion on the complexities and critiques of the term "sex work" and its political implications. 41:40 - Jessie and Zalika discuss the challenges of coalition building, especially in relation to anti-Blackness and self-serving allies. 01:01:41 - Discussion on how Blackness disrupts traditional gender categories and the concept of womanhood. 01:06:48 - Zalika talks about her excitement for the I Hate My Job book and her critical porno project. 01:07:17 - Closing remarks, where to find Zalika and Jessie online, and podcast sign-off. Guest: Zalika U. Ibaorimi, PhD (she/they), also going under the artist’s name n0humaninv0lved (N.H.I.), is a former sex worker, antidisciplinary artist, Assistant Professor of Black Sexualities in the Department of African American and African Studies at the Ohio State University and a 2021-2023 Carter G. Woodson Predoctoral Fellow at the University of Virginia. She engages Black material and digital publics as landscapes to trace the Human sexual geographies between the relation of the Black femme and spectator. Their relationality is tethered to the logics of shame, desire, and pleasure. Additionally, they consider the discursiveness of critical and revolutionary Humanism as modes to chart the (de)figuration of the Black wh0re vis-à-vis the counter and anti-Human. They are currently working on two book projects, Haunted Femmes, Haunting Spectators and (BE)CUM(ING): N.H.I. in Three Acts. Her performance, a crit-p0rno titled (be)cum(ing): on humanist edging, will screen beginning March 2025. Instagram: @hauntedfemme Bluesky: @n0humaninv0lved.bsky.social   Recommendations:  Books:  The Witch's Flight by Kara Keeling Showgirls: Portrait of a Film by Paul Verhoeven Music:  Jazmine Sullivan  Mk.gee The Rest:  Enter to win a custom leather harness by Mia Walsch! Contest closes on 3/21/2025. Visit our socials for instructions!  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage speaks with Ruby about her extensive work with the Peers Victoria Resources Society, a nonprofit supporting sex workers in Victoria, BC. Ruby shares insights into the organization's history and services, such as night outreach and harm reduction programs. She discusses the challenges sex workers face, including legal issues under the Nordic model and societal stigma, and highlights efforts to reform Canadian sex work laws. Ruby also touches on her personal journey from being sex work-adjacent to advocating for sex worker rights and her creative endeavors, including a traveling peep show and spoken word poetry. The conversation reflects on the importance of community support, inclusivity, and the intersectionality within advocacy work. In this Episode: 00:02:48 Emily Foster, the producer, introduces the episode and announces a giveaway.   00:06:07 Discussion on the Red Umbrella March and efforts to end violence against sex workers.   00:10:05 Overview of Peers Victoria Resources Society and its programs supporting sex workers.   00:15:21 Discussion on the legal challenges faced by sex workers in Canada, including the constitutional challenge against current laws.   00:21:03 Ruby shares her journey from being sex work-adjacent to becoming an advocate and worker.   00:28:12 Conversation on the intersection of burlesque and sex work, and changes in the burlesque community.   00:34:49 Importance of supporting marginalized voices within sex work advocacy.   00:41:00 Ruby discusses personal growth and accomplishments through her advocacy work.   00:48:09 Ruby performs her spoken word piece, "Bimbo," highlighting the sex worker experience.  00:52:03 Ruby describes her mobile peep show project and the challenges faced in promoting it.  01:00:39 Ruby shares her concerns and goals for mobilizing the community against potential conservative government changes.   01:02:02 Closing remarks and where to find more about Ruby and Peers Victoria Resources Society. Guest: Ruby is a bimbo with multiple personalities, an innovative visionary who has owned her own entertainment company for over 15 years. Ruby Entertainments fearlessly recreates the ritual of Bachelor Party Culture by combining sex positivity with consent through a playful platform of dance, connection, and touch. Notably she was granted a moderate sum from the BC government to build the world’s first contemporary mobile Peepshow. Ruby’s Pop Up Peepshow came to life in 2023!   With a BA in Gender Studies she is the perfect mix of tits, wits, and glitz. As Ginger Kittens, she is a burlesque dancer in the award winning troupe, The Cheesecake Burlesque Revue. She is also an accomplished poet and playwright. Instagram: @RubyPeepShow X/Twitter: @RubyEntertains Website: RubyEntertainments.com   Recommendations:  Journal:  The Anti-Trafficking Review  Podcasts:  The Oldest Profession by Kaitlyn Bailey Stripped by SIA  The Rest:  Enter to win a custom leather harness by Mia Walsh! Contest closes on 3/21/2025. Visit our socials for instructions!  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage and guest Katarina "The Domme Kat" Pierce delve into her journey from TV production and journalism to becoming a co-founder of the Sex Work Survival Guide, a nonprofit providing crucial resources and education to sex workers. The conversation covers the challenges and stigmas within the sex industry, the importance of safety and community, and the unique blend of creativity and empowerment found in wrestling and BDSM. Katarina highlights her passion for wrestling as both an art form and a means of personal expression, illustrating how it allows for a dynamic interplay of strength, storytelling, and connection with clients. The episode also touches on the broader cultural narratives surrounding sex work and wrestling, emphasizing the transformative power of embracing one's true self and the support found within the sex work community. In this Episode: 00:02:49 Emily Foster introduces herself as the producer and talks about upcoming projects, including Jessie's book and TEDx Talk.   00:03:55 Introduction of Katarina, discussing her work and her nonprofit. 00:06:11 Katarina shares the challenges of entering the industry and the purpose behind the Sex Work Survival Guide.   00:09:30 Discussion about the format of the Sex Work Survival Guide conferences and speaker series.   00:18:19 Katarina discusses her journey into sex work and the reasons for choosing this path.   00:28:15 Jessie and Katarina discuss the dynamics of submission and fetishism in their work.   00:42:39 Discussion about the body emphasis in wrestling and how it intersects with sex work.   00:50:12 Katarina explains how sessions are like improv dance and the importance of consent.   00:57:04 Katarina shares one of her most fun sessions, involving role play and exploration.   01:02:02 Katarina and Jessie discuss their intentions for balancing work and personal life.   Guest:  Katarina "The Domme Kat" Pierce is a NYC-based fetish wrestler, ProDomme, adult actress and producer, kink educator and experience creator.   With Tiana "Glittersaurus Rex" and Dr. Ash Dark, Kat co-founded SW Survival Guide, a non-profit dedicated to the idea that life-saving information shouldn't be gatekept because “survival shouldn't be a luxury.”   Katarina comes from the world of TV production and print journalism. When she's editing content and her mom calls to ask what she's doing, Kat gets to say, "Using my college degree." Instagram: @domina_katarina X/Twitter:  @TheDommeKat Bluesky: thedommekat.bsky.social Website: theDommeKat.com or www.thedominakatarina.com Recommendations:  Books:  Wake: The Hidden History of Women-Led Slave Revolts, by Rebecca Hall  Music:  Marc Anthony Podcasts:  The Mystery Hour-Rabia Chaudry The Hidden Djinn - Rabia Chaudry  The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of the When We're Not Hustling podcast, host Jessie Sage welcomes Ms. Faith Rae, a Canadian sex worker and multidisciplinary artist. The conversation explores Faith's life outside her work persona, delving into her passions for sustainability and art. Faith shares her unique craft of creating art with ethically sourced animal bones, a practice that connects her with nature and offers a sense of healing and honoring life cycles. Her dedication to sustainability extends to her lifestyle choices, including plans to build a homestead with permaculture principles. Throughout the discussion, Faith reflects on how these practices have reshaped her relationship with life and death, and how they align with her broader commitment to environmental care. The episode is a deep dive into the personal philosophies and creative endeavors that define Faith Rae beyond her professional identity. In this Episode: 00:02:40 Introduction to the guest, Faith Rae, a Canadian multidisciplinary artist and sex worker.   00:03:10 Faith Rae discusses her art with bones and her interests in sustainability.   00:06:03 Discussion on ADHD and creative processes.   00:10:54 Faith Rae talks about her connection to nature and how it influences her art.   00:13:28 Discussion on how working with bones has changed her relationship with death.   00:19:49 Faith Rae talks about her interest in sustainability and thrifting.   00:31:19 Faith Rae discusses her plans to move and her vision for a sustainable homestead.   00:43:12 Discussion on permaculture and sustainable farming practices.   00:52:24 Faith Rae shares her excitement for the future and her personal journey.   00:53:01 Closing remarks and where to find Faith Rae's work.   Guest:  Faith Rae is a Canadian sex worker of over twelve years, whose career is rooted in Femdom content creation and online sessions. When she's not making men cry for money, she can be found hiking with her dog, making art out of ethically sourced animal remains, or learning new ways to incorporate sustainability and eco-consciousness into her day-to-day life. Bluesky: missfaithrae.bsky.social Website: missfaithrae.com Reccomendations:  Books:  Children of Time, by Adrian Tchaikovsky Music:  A Perfect Circle  Deftones  STARSET The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Suzanna Weiss, a sexologist and author of Subjectified: Becoming a Sexual Subject. Weiss shares her journey toward sexual empowerment, beginning with overcoming an eating disorder tied to societal objectification and evolving through experiences like sex parties and sex writing. Her book challenges traditional narratives around women’s sexuality, urging women to reclaim agency and become active participants in their own desires, rather than passive objects of male fantasy. This episode offers a nuanced discussion on the complexities of sexual subjectivity and self-expression, encouraging listeners to embrace their desires and assert their individuality. In this Episode:  00:02:40 Introduction of guest Suzannah Weiss and her new book   00:04:32 Discussion on Suzannah's background and work   00:07:21 Suzannah's personal journey with sexuality and empowerment   00:09:50 Exploration of consent and desire   00:15:10 Discussion on societal views about sex and gender roles   00:25:25 Examination of men's experiences with desire   00:32:28 Suzannah's book tour experience and public readings   00:38:19 Insights on beauty, femininity, and empowerment   00:43:56 Tuning into personal boundaries and consent in sex work   00:53:55 Final thoughts on Suzannah's book and its impact   00:54:24 Closing segment with Suzannah's current reads and excitements   Guest:  Suzannah Weiss is a writer and sexologist based in Los Angeles. She is the author of Subjectified: Becoming a Sexual Subject, which describes her search for sexual empowerment and her vision for a world where women are subjects, not just objects, of desire. She has written over 8800 articles, which have appeared in publications such as The New York Times and The Washington Post. As a sex educator certified by the American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors, and Therapists, Suzannah has taught courses and given talks on topics including consent, orgasms, childbirth, non-monogamy, and neurodiversity. She is regularly quoted as an expert in publications like Cosmopolitan and Men's Health and also works as a sex/love coach, birth doula, and sexual assault counselor. She holds a Master of Professional Studies in Sexual Health from the University of Minnesota, a Bachelor of Science in Cognitive Neuroscience from Brown University, and a Bachelor of Arts in Gender & Sexuality Studies and Modern Culture & Media from Brown University. She likes to play with words in silly ways that tap into big truths. Instagram: @weisssuzannah X: @suzannahweiss Website: www.suzannahweiss.com Recommendation: Audiobooks: Man's Seach for Meaning, by Victor E. Frankl In an Unspoken Voice, by Peter Levine Sensual Faith: The Art of Coming Home to Your Body, by Lyvonne Briggs Music: Oh No, by OK Go (Album)  Best Coast (Band)  The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage sits down with long-time friend Xanthe Rhea to discuss her journey from stripping to full-service sex work. Xanthe shares insights into the financial pressures dancers face, including the challenges of "pay-to-work" club systems, and how these experiences shaped her transition within the industry. Beyond sex work, the conversation explores Xanthe's passion for urban farming, her background in herbalism, and her commitment to holistic health practices. They discuss the philosophical differences between herbalism and Western medicine, as well as the social and environmental benefits of local, organic farming. The episode delves into the challenges of urban gardening, including community resistance and regulatory hurdles, and reflects on the intersection of climate change, empowerment, and personal growth. Xanthe concludes by sharing her vision for balancing her farming aspirations with her work in the sex industry. In this Episode:  00:00:06 Introduction to When We're Not Hustling 00:02:49 Guest introduction: Xanthe Rhea 00:05:00 Experiences in dancing and stripping 00:09:52 Labor issues and female labor struggles 00:14:10 Urban gardening and farming experiences 00:16:11 Herb school and herbalism 00:21:39 Code switching between herbalism and Western medicine 00:30:19 Midwives and naturalistic approaches 00:37:02 Health tips and firewater benefits 00:42:33 Importance of organic, local produce 00:51:48 Interpersonal skills learned from sex work 00:57:57 Vision for future farming and community living 01:01:20 Plans for 2025 and touring goals 01:05:02 Where to find Xanthe Rhea online Guest: I'm a traveling stripper from Pittsburgh who is transitioning to in-person sex work. Right now, I'm also working on aerial skills to become a traveling feature performer. I have a formal education in nursing. Once I finished my nursing program and obtained my license I ran screaming into herbalism education and started getting serious/obsessive about travel dancing. I also trained with a trail-building non-profit when I was a teenager. This experience stays with me in the form of desire to find sweet hiking spots or natural swim spots wherever I travel. I'm looking forward to continue to build community resilience within the SWer community and the femme community at large that's built on radical honesty, pleasure and connectedness. P.S. In my future there will be chickens. Website: xantherhea.com Bluesky: x-rhea.bsky.social Recommendation: Books:  Saturn Return Survival Guide by Lisa Stardust Dreaming the Soul Back Home by Robert Moss The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage talks with Delphine, a full-service sex worker from the San Francisco Bay Area, about polyamory, non-monogamy, and balancing work with personal life. Delphine, who identifies as solo poly, shares how her approach to relationships emphasizes autonomy, personal growth, and creative expression. The conversation explores the challenges of dating as a sex worker, navigating societal expectations, and maintaining non-hierarchical dynamics in relationships. Delphine also reflects on how her work has enabled her to pursue passions like becoming a yoga teacher. The episode encourages listeners to rethink societal norms around relationships while celebrating the autonomy and individuality of sex workers. In this Episode:  00:03:00: Upcoming Episode and Guest Introduction   00:05:02: Delphine Discusses Relationships in Sex Work   00:09:28: Flexibility and Opportunities Provided by Sex Work   00:13:04: Navigating Polyamory as a Sex Worker   00:14:59: Delphine's Journey to Solo Polyamory   00:22:55: Balancing Work and Personal Life   00:24:06: Differences Between Client and Personal Relationships   00:31:07: Black Venom Digital Sponsorship   00:34:17: Societal Challenges of Non-Hierarchical Relationships   00:36:03: Importance of Autonomy in Relationships   00:39:22: Delphine's Introduction to Polyamory   00:48:33: Challenges of Managing Multiple Relationships   00:51:58: Concerns About Stigma and Whorephobia   00:54:03: Microaggressions in Polyamorous Communities   00:58:01: Where to Find Delphine Online   Guest: Delphine is a hairy, all natural escort based in the SF Bay Area. She loves engineering creative photo shoots, reading/watching science fiction (especially dystopians), and making fantasies come to life. She has been in the adult industry in various forms for about 15 years, and has been doing full service sex work as Delphine for the last 7.5 years.  She considers her 870+ day Duolingo streak to be one of her greatest achievements in life. An AI bot once described her as "a digital darling serving sass with a side of self-awareness and dad jokes" and that sounds about right. Website: yourmusedelphine.com X: @delphine_x Bluesky: @delphine.bsky.social Recommendation: Podcast: Reddit on Wiki Podcast  The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this conversation, Jessie Sage interviews Jack Parker, a writer and sex worker, about his experiences and the creation of the anthology Working Guys: A Transmasculine Sex Worker Anthology, which features stories from transmasculine sex workers. They discuss the diverse experiences within sex work, the importance of representation, and the impact of the anthology on the community. In this Episode: 00:03: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling Podcast 01:27: Exploring Lives of Sex Workers Beyond Work 02:44: Season 3 Updates & Schedule Changes 03:09: Rebranding of After Parties to After the Hustle 03:20: Jack Parker's Interview & Anthology Discussion 05:10: Jack Parker's Background & Writing Career 06:18: Discussing Writing & Sex Work Experiences 08:05: Jack's Anthology: Working Guys and Its Impact 14:11: Challenges and Realizations in Publishing the Anthology 28:39: Jack's Transition and Changes in Client Dynamics Guest: Jack Parker is a sex worker and writer who writes on topics around sex work. He also has experiences as a peer support for sex workers, and has provided training programs on how best to support sex workers.  You can find Jack: Website: jackviolet.com X: @MxJackParker Bluesky: @MxJackParker.bsky.social Recommendation: Book: Chav Solidarity by DP Hunter Podcast:  Sherlock & Co Podcast The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this special crossover episode of When We're Not Hustling and Hobby Whores, Jessie Sage speaks with Mia Walsch, an Australian leatherworker and former sex worker, about her journey into leather crafting during the extended lockdowns in Melbourne. The conversation explores Mia's transition from sex work to a creative outlet that became a side hustle, as she intricately crafts leather harnesses and other items, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of working with her hands. They discuss the challenges of selling on platforms like Etsy and the ethical considerations Mia faces as a vegetarian working with leather. The episode also touches on the broader themes of capitalism's impact on creative industries, the communal aspects of crafting, and the personal satisfaction derived from creating tangible art. In this Episode: 02:49 - Introduction of producer Emily Foster and guest Mia Walsh.   04:05 - Start of conversation with Mia Walsh.   06:14 - Discussion of Mia's leatherworking and Etsy experience.   10:04 - Insights on gig economy and capitalism.   17:40 - The joy of crafting and creating.   29:34 - Discussion on ethical considerations in leatherworking.   38:44 - Future plans for leatherworking and community involvement.   41:12 - Mia's memoir and challenges faced during its release. Guest:  Mia Walsch is an author and visual artist from Melbourne, Australia. She studied Creative Writing at the University of Wollongong and has previously published three novels, the first of which won a Victorian Premier's Literary Award. Money for Something is her first non-fiction book. Instagram: @m1a.wal5ch Bluesky: miawalsch.bsky.social   Recommendations:  Books:  Neon Girls, by Jennifer Worely  Music: Gag Order, Kesha The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage interviews Savannah, a UK-based full-service sex worker turned webcam model and contemporary artist. Savannah discusses her self-care guide for sex workers, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging sex workers as full people with complex lives beyond their jobs. She shares how art has helped her find a sense of home and belonging as an immigrant and how it aids in processing her experiences of survival and stigma. Savannah's work includes the Self Care for Sex Workers Journal, aimed at promoting well-being and balance for sex workers, and her latest book, Salute the Light Within You, which explores her journey through domestic violence and addiction recovery. The episode underscores the importance of destigmatizing sex work and recognizing the humanity of those within the industry. In this Episode: 00:04:07 Introduction to Savannah, a full-service sex worker and artist, and the topics of the interview including self-care and art.   00:06:46 Savannah discusses her background, her transition from full-service sex work to webcam modeling, and her art practice.   00:11:01 Savannah talks about how her art is a response to her experience of erasure and survival as an immigrant and sex worker.   00:19:09 Savannah and Jessie discuss the difficulty of recognizing safety and security after years of survival mode.   00:28:04 Discussion on the importance of self-care for sex workers and the creation of Savannah's journal.   00:32:42 Conversation about financial stigma and challenges faced by sex workers in managing money.   00:41:43 Discussion about the boundaries and care dynamics in sex work, and how these experiences translate to Savannah's art.   00:56:00 Jessie wraps up the episode with final thoughts and asks Savannah about her current interests and projects.   Guest: Savannah is an Indian Web Cam Model, 6 time Immigrant and Contemporary Artist based in London, UK. In 2022 she published the Self Care for Sex Workers Journal which centres the lives, well being and spirits of Sex Workers as deserving and vital. Born from her understanding of Self Care and Community as Reclamation from a stigma induced Survival Mode existence, the Journal offers a holistic guide to well being through eye opening, step by step guidance around nutrition, finance, rest, pleasure and diversifying in business and life aspirations. Rooted in doing less and letting go, and creating expansion through rest and replenishment, the prompts provide release from the hustle and grind aspects of our Labour, to move from surviving to thriving, from burn out to balance. Instagram: @selfcare4sxwkrs X/Twitter: @selfcare4sxwkrs Website: myspacetobreathe.art   Substack: substack.com/@annaandtheelephant   Recommendations:  Books:  Three Women, by Lisa Taddeo  Queenie, by Candice Carty-Williams Podcasts:  Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel  How's Work? with Esther Perel  The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Steph Sia, a multidisciplinary artist and content creator from Vancouver, to discuss her diverse experiences in the adult industry. As a stripper, podcaster, and online content creator, Sia shares insights into balancing work and personal life while navigating the challenges and misconceptions surrounding sex work. The conversation also explores her unique YouTube channel, Sia Slurps, where she reviews instant noodles, highlighting her passion for creative expression beyond the industry. Throughout the episode, Sia emphasizes the importance of destigmatizing sex work and creating content that connects with mainstream audiences, fostering greater understanding and visibility. In this Episode: 00:02:41 Introduction to guest Steph Sia, her background, and podcast "Stripped by Sia".   00:03:57 Overview of Steph Sia’s career in the adult space and her various roles.   00:05:01 Steph shares her travel plans to Hawaii and family life.   00:07:55 Conversation about Steph's multiple jobs and how she manages them.   00:12:24 Introduction and discussion of Steph’s noodle review channel "See a Slurps".   00:24:00 Discussion on managing work and personal life, including setting boundaries to prevent burnout.   00:32:01 Steph discusses her transition from feature dancing to focusing more on online work.   00:58:27 Conversation about the realities of working in the sex industry and the impact of COVID on new entrants.   01:01:35 Reflections on the connections and friendships formed within the industry.   01:02:23 Jessie and Steph talk about their current reading and music interests.   01:04:59 Steph shares where listeners can find her content online.   01:06:33 Closing remarks by Jessie Sage.   Guest:  Steph SIA (aka SIA) is a content creator, podcaster, dancer, and multidisciplinary artist based out of Vancouver, BC. She has been in the adult space since 2013, starting out with in-person companionship, dancing professionally across clubs in Vancouver, fetish work and most recently, branching off into online work via paid subscription sites, camming and sexting. Steph SIA shares a love for dancing and movement which lead her to her naturally gravitating toward a career in the strip industry. Instagram: @strippedbysiapodcast X: @strippedbysia Bluesky: @strippedbysia Website: siaoncamera.com Reccomendations:  Books:  Thriving in Sex Work: Heartfelt Advice for Staying Sane in the Sex Industry, by Lola Divina  Music:  Thủy The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In S3 E5 of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage sits down with Jet Setting Jasmine, an award-winning adult film director, psychotherapist, and master fetish trainer, to discuss perimenopause, evolving identities, and the challenges of navigating life, family, and sex work with autonomy and care. They explore the impact of bodily changes, the importance of boundary-setting, and Jasmine’s unique approach to parenting and education through travel. This episode offers a candid look at embracing new phases of life with confidence, community, and self-acceptance.  In this Episode: 00:02:51 Introduction of guest Jet Setting Jasmine  00:03:47 Discussion on perimenopause and its impact on daily life.   00:06:33 Conversation about the symptoms and lack of awareness regarding perimenopause.   00:10:28 Exploration of mood changes and personality shifts during perimenopause.   00:14:37 Concerns about sex drive changes due to perimenopause and how it affects sex work.   00:19:23 Discussion on adaptability in sex work as one ages and changes.   00:26:51 The impact of perimenopause on relationships and personal life.   00:41:51 Changes in family dynamics and embracing new roles as children grow.   00:54:49 Traveling with children and accommodating their needs in new environments.   01:01:32 Closing thoughts on perimenopause, its broader impacts, and the importance of sharing experiences with others going through similar life stages.   Guest:  Jet Setting Jasmine is an award-winning adult film director, entertainer, and master fetish trainer. She is also a licensed psychotherapist and educator who uses her expertise in mental health to advocate for a more inclusive and ethically-sound adult entertainment industry. Challenging Conventional Approaches to Sex, Jasmine is the co-owner, along with partner King Noire, of Royal Fetish Films, a multi-channel adult-entertainment business that resists the discriminatory tropes common in the art of entertainment and the mainstream adult industry. The filmmakers at Royal Fetish Films combine love for artistic and sensual film, with the need for authentic sexual representation. The result is blazing-hot content that stimulates the audience to explore their sexual boundaries in an area free from stigma. Her work on the decolonization of sex and pornography, as well as her advocacy for sex-positive parenting, recently landed her on Comedy Central’s The Daily Show. She has also appeared in major publications such as Vice, Playboy, Forbes, Cosmopolitan, NPR, Essence, BBC, and Psychology Today. Instagram: X: @JetSetJasmine Bluesky: @JetSettingJasmine.bsky.social XXX Content: RoyalFetishXXX.com Website: jetsettingjasmine.com The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We’re Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this special roundtable episode wrapping up Season 2 of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage, producer Emily Foster, and guests Aviva Ruse, Amber Délice, and Madeleine Blair dive into the complexities of the mind. They discuss the connection between the brain, emotions, and personal experiences, exploring how the mind processes thoughts and feelings while balancing mental and physical experiences. The conversation touches on the challenges and pleasures of living in one's mind and the importance of grounding oneself in reality. They also examine emotional states like jealousy and envy, particularly in relation to those with seemingly simpler lives, and highlight the significance of rest, play, and creativity for maintaining mental health. Throughout the discussion, they share personal strategies for reconnecting with their minds, embracing their strengths, and offering practical advice for navigating life with a mindful approach. In This Episode:  00:00: Exploring the Nature of the Mind   02:53: The Mind as a Processor: Perspectives & Experiences   05:57: Navigating the Mind: Personal Experiences & Challenges   09:06: The Mind as a Pleasant or Unpleasant Space   12:08: The Balance of Mind, Body, and Emotion   15:02: Fostering a Life of the Mind   18:01: The Role of Habits in Shaping the Mind   20:49: The Importance of Grounding in the Life of the Mind   37:40: Navigating Emotional States & Self-Acceptance   39:02: The Burden of Intellect: Jealousy & Envy   43:59: Finding Balance: Rest, Play, and Creativity   47:51: Bridging the Gap: Reconnecting with the Mind   56:08: Embracing Individuality: Strengths & Coping Mechanisms   01:00:51: Advice & Reflections: Wisdom from Experience Guests: Aviva Ruse is a New England-born companion living in West Hollywood. Her bylines as Aviva include Tryst, The Fix, and Rogue Collective. She is currently shopping a collection of essays (and endlessly shopping for lingerie!). She blogs at dateavivaruse.com/blog.  You can find Aviva: Aviva's Episode: A Funny Thing Happened at the Plastic Surgeon's  Website: DateAvivaRuse.com X: x.com/avivaruse OnlyFans: onlyfans.com/rr639 Amber Délice is an independent provider and companion based in Boulder, Colorado (just a quick hop away from Denver). She is blessed to travel often and has clients who not only fly her to them but also come to visit for adventures in Colorado. She loves sensuality, writing, dance, immersive theater, travel, and poetry. She is also an ex-food and wine journalist. You can find Amber: Amber's Episode: Conversational Pilgrimages That Shape Our Lives Website: meetamberdelice.com X: @meetamberdelice Instagram: @meetamberdelice Madeleine Blair is a sex worker, writer, freelance editor, writing coach, and the founder and host of Sex Worker Writes, a hookers-only virtual literary salon. You can find Madeleine: Madeleine's episode:Poetry and Personas that Heal Website: madeleineblair.com X: @sensememories The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.    

In the Season 2 finale of When We’re Not Hustling, Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster come together for an Afterparty episode to reflect on Olivia Snow’s interview. They discuss her insights on surveillance and sex work, the challenges of balancing personal and professional identities, and the complexities of the industry. The conversation also explores the idea of sex work as a queer identity and the need for solidarity across the community. Wrapping up the season, the hosts share reflections, gratitude, and holiday wishes for their listeners. In This Episode: 00:05: Introduction to the After-Party Episode 00:30: Season 2 Finale and Co-Host Introductions 01:09: Reflections on Season 2 and Hosting Emotions 02:32: Discussion on Olivia Snow and Academia 06:23: Humor and Academia's Impact 07:47: Understanding Risks in the Sex Work Industry 14:19: Intelligence and Skills in Sex Work 21:02: Lateral Whorephobia and Community Solidarity 34:14: Sex Work as a Queer Identity Discussion 44:37: Closing Remarks and Holiday Wishes People: Guest: Olivia Snow Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster,  Emery Fields  Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati You can support the show at pateron.com/sapiotextual When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.  

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage interviews Olivia Snow, a writer, professor, and dominatrix, to discuss the intersections of academia, labor rights, and the surveillance of sex workers. Olivia shares insights from her research on algorithmic surveillance and how technology, particularly smartphones, profiles sex workers. The conversation delves into themes of class, labor, and societal perceptions of sex work, weaving in elements from Olivia’s dissertation on cannibalism and capitalism in 19th-century American literature. Together, Jessie and Olivia reflect on their experiences and the broader implications of their work, offering a nuanced look at the complexities of the industry.  In This Episode:  00:01: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling 01:23: Podcast Overview with Host Jessie Sage 02:44: Season Finale and Guest Introduction: Olivia Snow 05:01: Olivia Snow on Academia and Sex Work Research 06:53: Surveillance and Sex Work: A Discussion 10:22: Historical Context of Surveillance in Sex Work 12:30: Olivia Snow's Academic Background 20:18: Cannibalism and Capitalism in American Literature 28:02: Class Dynamics and Sex Work 50:18: Sex Work, Queer Identity, and Community Dynamics Guest: Dr. Olivia Snow is a writer, professor, and dominatrix based in New York City. She’s currently a Visiting Assistant Researcher at the University of California, Los Angeles’s Department of Gender Studies and Center for Critical Internet Inquiry (C2i2), where she studies sex work, labor rights, tech, and policy. She’s written for WIRED, The Daily Beast, Jezebel, The Chronicle of Higher Education, The Nation, Slate, and Motherboard/VICE, and she’s been quoted in stories on sex work and whorephobia for Business Insider, Buzzfeed, CNN, The Daily Dot, Fast Company, Forbes, Glamour, The Guardian, Inside Higher Ed, Mashable, MEL Magazine, The New York Post, Paper Magazine, Polygon, Prism, TechCrunch, The Washington Post, and more. You can find Olivia:  Website: doctrixsnow.com X: @MistressSnowPhD Instagram: @mistresssnowphd Recommendations:   Pretty Baby, by Chris Belcher Chappell Roan The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of *When We're Not Hustling After Party*, Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster discuss the appeal of van life and the challenges of minimal living. Emery shares his dream of a U.S. road trip and a simplified lifestyle, while Jessie reflects on her own experiences with van living, including the difficulties of maintaining cleanliness in small spaces. They explore the emotional significance of housing security, the comforts of home ownership, and the dynamics of solo versus group travel. The conversation shifts to psychedelics, examining their potential for self-discovery, ego reduction, and heightened self-awareness. The hosts differentiate between using substances for escapism versus exploration and consider the societal and legal controls on psychedelics. The episode concludes with reflections on the value of personal rituals, self-reflection, and the role of intention in fostering growth. In This Episode: 00:02: Welcome to the Afterparty 00:16: Guest Introductions 00:33: Living in a Van 01:25: Road Trip Dreams 02:35: Minimalist Living Challenges 05:09: Housing Security and Personal Space 07:02: Travel Companions and Solo Journeys 14:25: The Joy of Unplanned Adventures 17:08: Perspectives on Psychedelics and Self-Discovery 38:04: Legal System and Body Autonomy 45:34: Closing Thoughts and Farewell People: Guest: Sinn Sage Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster,  Emery Fields  Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati You can support the show at pateron.com/sapiotextual When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage welcomes Sinn Sage, a longtime content creator and AVN Hall of Famer. Sinn shares her unique journey in the sex industry, from her early days as a stripper to producing indie porn and collaborating with her husband. The conversation explores her adventurous lifestyle, including living in a van, and her experiences with psychedelic medicine as a tool for personal growth and consciousness expansion. The episode highlights Sinn's multifaceted life and challenges societal stigmas around sex work, encouraging open and honest discussions.  In This Episode:  00:01: Introduction and Mission of When We're Not Hustling 01:23: Meet the Host: Jessie Sage 02:45: Introducing Guest: Sinn Sage 03:43: Sinn Sage's Journey in the Sex Industry 07:53: Life on the Road: Van Living Adventures 17:37: Exploring Psychedelic Medicine 27:25: MDMA and its Transformative Power 37:07: Scientific Research and Benefits of Psychedelics 47:02: The Impact of Psychedelics on Consciousness 57:32: Reflections on Sex Work and Societal Stigma Guest: Sinn Sage is a longtime content creator, making high-quality custom videos and authentic porn with her friends and partner. She's also in the AVN Hall of Fame and has won two other AVN awards. She is also the host of the Sage Advice Podcast. You can find Sinn:  Website: sinn-sage.com X: @sinnsage   Recommendations:  How to Change Your Mind, by Michael Pollan You're Wrong About, by Sarah Marshall Savage Lovecast by Dan Savage  Good Girls Talk About Sex, by Leah Carey  The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In this When We're Not Hustling After Party episode, hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Emery Fields discuss Josie Oakley's episode, highlighting her dedication to organizing safe, inclusive sex-positive events and her activism with SWOP Pittsburgh. They explore how Josie’s work extends beyond event planning, advocating for reduced penalties for prostitution to make sex work safer and more accessible. The hosts examine the social dynamics and thoughtful guest curation that go into Josie's events, balancing newcomers with regulars, while discussing the importance of consent, self-awareness, and accountability. Reflecting on Josie’s honesty about her personal growth around past consent issues, they emphasize the need for open communication and self-reflection in fostering respectful relationships. In This Episode: 00:05: Introduction to the Episode 00:24: Meet the Hosts and Guest 00:59: Hosting Sex Parties with Josie Oakley 01:35: Similarities to Bartending and Event Hosting 03:15: Social Dynamics of Sex Parties 05:18: Gender Dynamics and Initiating Interaction 08:53: Importance of Emotional Safety 11:14: Trust and Curating Guest Lists 15:28: Navigating Consent and Boundaries 26:26: Validating Feelings and Effective Communication People: Guest: Josie Oakley Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster,  Emery Fields  Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati You can support the show at pateron.com/sapiotextual When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.  

In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Josie Oakley, a Pittsburgh-based escort and advocate. Josie discusses her personal journey and her efforts to create safer, more inclusive spaces, including organizing "No Boys Allowed" sex parties. These events prioritize safety, consent, and community, providing a much-needed refuge from the presence of cis men. Josie also highlights her advocacy with SWOP Pittsburgh, where she is working to change local laws to reduce sex work penalties to civil violations. Additionally, Josie talks about her involvement in creative projects like the "Only Bans" game. Tune in to learn more about Josie's advocacy work and the importance of supporting sex workers’ rights and representation. In This Episode:  00:01: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling 00:43: Welcome from Host Jessie Sage 01:23: Overview of Podcast's Purpose 02:46: Introduction of Guest Josie Oakley 04:12: Josie Oakley Introduces Herself 05:24: The Concept of "No Boys Allowed" Parties 08:42: Establishing Party Norms and Safety 14:32: Josie's Experience with Hosting Parties 29:00: Josie Discusses Local Pittsburgh Organizing 49:35: Final Thoughts and How to Connect Guest: Josie Oakley is a professional canoodler based in Pittsburgh. She's an advocate, an artist, and a general mischief-maker. You can find :  X: @theJosieOakley Instagram: @theJosieOakley Recommendations:  Constraints by Stefan Triplett The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo: A Novel by Taylor Jenkins Reid Thriving In Sex Work by Lola Divina The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

In a special live episode, When We're Not Husting collaborates with Stay Gold Books, Working Girls Press, and SWOP Pittsburgh to celebrate the launch of Working Girls Press's debut anthology, The Holy Hour: An Anthology of Sex, Work, Magic, and the Divine. The event features impactful readings from the anthology, alongside discussions on the intersections of sex work, spirituality, and identity. Emily Foster leads panel discussions that dive into themes of integrity, emotional labor, and boundaries, bringing depth and nuance to the conversation around sex work. Speakers underscore the importance of community support, highlighting how solidarity helps sex workers navigate societal stigma and limited resources. Listeners are introduced to Working Girls Press's newest project, I Hate My Job: Thoughts on Labor, Sex Work, and Capitalism, edited by Adrie Rose. The episode concludes with reflections on radical boundaries, self-empowerment, and the strength rooted in collective resilience. In This Episode:  01:25: Host Jesse Sage introduces the podcast 04:02: Opening remarks & event sponsors 06:49: Musical interlude by Emily Foster 08:05: Molly Simmons discusses Working Girls Press 12:21: Introduction of panelists & discussion format 14:47: Jesse Sage reads her essay on religion and sex work 25:24: Panel discussion: Religion, motherhood, and sex work 44:08: Brita Love's essay on power dynamics in sex work 1:05:28: Intermission & musical performance by Emily Foster 1:13:13: Elena Egusquiza's essay on sex work as resistance 1:35:43: Amber Délice's essay on integrity in sex work 2:06:59: Announcing new book project by Adrie Rose 2:07:27: Audience Q&A session 2:42:32: Closing remarks and group yell: Radical Boundaries Collaborators:  Working Girls Press Stay Gold Books  SWOP Pittsburgh  Sponsors:  Inclusive Aesthetics Buzz Me In  Music: Emily Foster Sound: PJ Patella-Rey  Panelists: Molly Simmons  Adrie Rose Readers:  Nicci Melissa Milk  Ashley Luz Ramos Writers:  Amber Délice Britta Love Elena Egusquiza The Rest:  Host: Jessie Sage Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor: Assembly Four Powered by Black Venom Digital When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund. You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.