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When We See Each Other* is a podcast hosted by Nikkiesha McLeod focused mostly (though not entirely) on work by Black, queer, trans, and non-binary musicians and other artists.

*as in, "When we see each other in the streets..."

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Ep 2.6 - Vahn Black

Ep 2.6 - Vahn Black

2025-08-0701:13:37

Host Nikkiesha McLeod dives into an enlightening discussion with Vahn Black, a multifaceted vocalist, producer, and memory worker whose artistic journey reflects a rich tapestry of musical influences and personal identity. The conversation covers everything from the current sociopolitical climate to the intricate process of musical creation. Vahn shares her personal journey of emotional resilience, drawing strength from the historical context of jazz music as a source of defiance and solace. This leads to a broader discussion about the intersection of art and social justice, illustrating how Vahn’s creative expression is both a personal and collective act of resistance. Vahn elaborates on the importance of joy as an integral part of that resistance, allowing music to act as a refuge amidst adversity.The episode provides a glimpse into Vahn’s early inspirations and musical pedigree, notably how her upbringing in Detroit—a city vibrant with musical history—shaped her artistic path. Vahn recounts the pivot point in her life when she realized music could be a profession and the transformative journey she undertook in her music education. She reflects on how attending the Detroit School of Arts solidified her passion for music, leading to an exploration of various instruments including guitar, bass, and baritone ukulele. She reveals the intricacies of how she develops her music—ranging from initial ideas captured in voice memos to elaborate arrangements. Vahn’s storytelling often reflects personal experiences intertwined with wider socio-cultural themes, with the aim of representing underrepresented narratives in music. In particular, Vahn shares about their decision to create a trilogy inspired by Gladys Bentley, a black lesbian drag king from the Harlem Renaissance, detailing how their story has profoundly resonated with Vahn’s own reflections on gender fluidity and identity.- Produced and hosted by Nikkiesha McLeod- Produced and edited by Jeremiah Lee McVay- Released and distributed by Stereoactive Media===Support the artist:https://www.vahnblack.comhttps://www.vahnblack.bandcamp.com/https://www.soundcloud.com/vahnblackhttps://www.youtube.com/@thevahnblackhttps://www.instagram.com/vahnblackhttps://open.spotify.com/artist/4RzNMvH3WP11GHpgqWjRw7https://tidal.com/browse/artist/37015224
Ep 2.5 – LovelyOcean

Ep 2.5 – LovelyOcean

2025-05-0501:08:50

In this episode of "When We See Each Other," host Nikkiesha McLeod sits down with the talented rapper and songwriter, LovelyOcean. Known for their engaging and authentic approach to music, LovelyOcean discusses their journey as an artist, their inspirations, and the challenges they've faced along the way. The episode opens with a powerful track from LovelyOcean titled "Soft," setting the tone for an exploration of resilience, hope, and joy in the midst of adversity. As LovelyOcean reflects on the recent wildfires in LA and their emotional toll on her community, she emphasizes the importance of coming together and helping one another during difficult times. The conversation then pivots to the current political climate, where LovelyOcean candidly discusses their struggles with information overload and anxiety but also their determination to cultivate hope and joy in their life through music and meaningful experiences.LovelyOcean shares their unique journey into music, which began with a foundation in poetry that later translated into rap. They share about their first foray into music, inspired by their ex-husband, and how they developed their skills over the years, all while navigating personal challenges such as their divorce. They also discuss their songwriting process, emphasizing the need for intentionality and the significant role that beats play in shaping their lyrics.The conversation then turns to LovelyOcean's standout tracks, including "Love," which serves as a poignant reflection on their family and past experiences. They open up about how music has been a healing tool in their life, allowing them to articulate their identity as a Black, queer person and express emotions that may otherwise remain unvoiced. Deliciously layered, her music encapsulates powerful narratives woven with hope and vulnerability.Another highlight of this episode is Lovely Ocean’s description of her unique sound, which blends East Coast style with a West Coast vibe, while maintaining a personal, authentic essence. She acknowledges the comparisons made between her and other artists, appreciating the recognition but also advocating for individual artistry. Throughout their chat, Lovely Ocean showcases her lyrical prowess and deep understanding of the art form, even sharing bars from her tracks—inviting listeners to connect with the messages embedded within her music. This candid conversation not only highlights LovelyOcean's remarkable journey as a musician but also serves as an encouragement for aspiring artists and those seeking to find their voice in a challenging world. Listen up for an empowering dialogue that blends music, identity, and the pursuit of hope.- Produced and hosted by Nikkiesha McLeod- Produced and edited by Jeremiah Lee McVay- Released and distributed by Stereoactive Media===Support the artist:https://soundcloud.com/lovelyoceanhttps://www.youtube.com/@lovelyoceanwatershttps://www.instagram.com/lovelyoceanwaters/https://www.facebook.com/p/LovelyOcean-61560618410396/https://open.spotify.com/artist/1pqQJj7j8P9QP6p5SyxjJQhttps://tidal.com/browse/artist/16451201
Ep 2.4 – NYALLAH

Ep 2.4 – NYALLAH

2025-03-0701:24:44

Nikkiesha McLeod welcomes the talented R&B singer-songwriter NYALLAH, diving into their journey of creativity, resilience, and the intricacies of identity in the wake of personal and communal challenges. As they connect, NYALLAH shares their thoughts on navigating growth amidst struggles, notably reflecting on the recent devastating fires in Los Angeles and their impact on the communities they hold dear. They also discuss NYALLAH's musical evolution, highlighting new tracks and creative endeavors born from a place of vulnerability after a life-altering bike accident in 2022, as well as inspiring insights into their artistic process and the transition from producing music solely for performance to exploring their multifaceted identity as an artist. The conversation delves into the importance of storytelling and representation, particularly for queer and trans artists, urging a reimagining of the space that marginalized voices occupy in the music scene. Furthermore, it touches on the climate of fear and uncertainty pervasive in today's socio-political landscape, particularly regarding recent policies affecting queer communities. - Produced and hosted by Nikkiesha McLeod- Produced and edited by Jeremiah Lee McVay- Released and distributed by Stereoactive Media===Support the artist:https://www.nyallah.com/https://nyallah.bandcamp.com/https://www.instagram.com/n.yallahhttps://www.youtube.com/@nyallah888
Ep 2.3 – Kimmortal

Ep 2.3 – Kimmortal

2025-02-0301:12:09

Nikkiesha McLeod dives deep with Kimmortal, a queer non-binary Filipino-Canadian musician and visual artist. Kim kicks off the conversation with a look into their creative process, emphasizing how their early experience with music began with an acoustic guitar belonging to their sister, leading to a self-taught journey of songwriting and creativity. They discuss the impact of formative moments, such as performing original songs for family, which cemented their love for storytelling through music. Kim also shares their multifaceted background, highlighting the influence of their family and cultural heritage on their work while reflecting on the intricate relationship between their queer identity and their artistry.Kim's approach to genre-blending in music is intentional, shaped by powerful moments from the past and grounded in a seeming desire to rebel against conventional structures. They describe how their songwriting process is influenced by digital media, utilizing snippets of inspiration pulled from various platforms to craft soundscapes that reflect their emotional states coupled with societal commentary, ultimately using their art as a means of addressing darker subjects while simultaneously seeking joy and connection.This podcast is produced by Stereoactive Media.===https://kimmortalportal.com/https://kimmortal.bandcamp.com/https://www.youtube.com/kimmortalmusichttps://www.instagram.com/kimmortaltheartist===0:09 Introduction to Kimmortal3:19 Welcoming Kimmortal6:43 Kim's Early Musical Journey10:04 Influence of Family on Art12:48 Education and Intuition in Music15:23 Genre-Bending Artistic Intent19:22 Creative Process and Inspiration26:42 The Meaning Behind "Stop Business As Usual"32:22 Evolution of Kim's Music38:46 Identity as a Queer Non-Binary Artist40:14 The Struggle with Specificity in Art41:30 Embracing Power in Otherness46:29 Navigating Community and Acceptance51:04 Surprising Musical Influences53:30 Performing vs. Studio Work56:16 Storytelling and Political Elements in Music56:25 Future Projects and Inspirations59:48 Combining Artistic Projects1:00:52 Recommendations for Other Artists1:03:14 Current Reading and Social Media Presence1:06:19 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Ep 2.2 – Najla Said

Ep 2.2 – Najla Said

2024-11-2258:53

Nikkiesha speaks with Najla Said, a multifaceted Palestinian-Lebanese-Arab-American actress, playwright, author, and activist, known for her poignant memoir ‘Looking for Palestine.’ Najla describes the intricate and painful realities faced by the Palestinian people, especially in light of the ongoing suffering and the recent escalation of violence in Gaza. With the goal of amplifying Palestinian voices, this conversation dives deep into the emotional turmoil and complexity of identity that Najla has experienced, both personally and in the context of her community, as well as how the recent violence has not only impacted her own mental health but has also influenced her sense of belonging and identity. She candidly discusses how, in the past, she often felt compelled to code-switch to make others more comfortable with her identity, a dichotomy that has grown increasingly untenable given the current climate. She underscores the vital importance of expressing truth amidst a sense of denial and gaslighting that she often feels around public discourse on Palestine.Najla shares her thoughts on cultivating resilience in the face of horrific realities, including the events of October 7, 2023, and how these experiences have shaped her understanding of conflict and identity vis-à-vis her heritage. Through the lens of her upbringing, Najla distinguishes her family's storied past from the narratives constructed around the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, stressing the need for a more nuanced understanding of this history. Drawing parallels to her father Edward Said’s legacy as an intellectual and activist, she grapples with her identity as an artist recognizable for her own voice rather than merely as her father’s daughter, including the writing of her memoir, ‘Looking for Palestine: Growing Up Confused in an Arab-American Family,’ which originated from a play she’d previously developed.Najla’s reflections on Lebanon and Palestine serve to highlight the vibrancy of Arab culture that is often eclipsed by narratives focused solely on conflict. She vividly describes the warmth, connection, and shared loves that permeate her family experiences in Lebanon, underscoring the importance of these connections in the face of hardship. She also shares valuable recommendations of Palestinian authors, illuminating the diverse voices that contribute to a fuller understanding of the Palestinian experience. This podcast is produced by Stereoactive Media.===https://www.najlasaid.com/https://www.instagram.com/kittybubble===0:14 - Introduction to Najla Said1:20 - Najla's Personal Journey9:08 - The Impact of October 7th16:43 - Addressing Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism20:18 - The Future of Palestinian Generations24:43 - Identity Beyond Her Father, Edward Said32:06 - Understanding Her Father's Legacy37:58 - The Evolution of ‘Looking for Palestine’ from Play to Memoir45:57 - The Beauty of Lebanon50:28 - Najla Reads from ‘Looking for Palestine’ About Lebanese Culture54:32 - Closing Thoughts and Recommendations56:39 - Outro
Ep 2.1 - SuperKnova

Ep 2.1 - SuperKnova

2024-11-0801:01:32

Nikkie speaks with the incredibly talented SuperKnova, a producer, multi-instrumentalist, and singer-songwriter whose music embodies the diverse experiences of BIPOC, queer, trans, and non-binary artists – and has been featured on Showtime’s 'Work In Progress,' Epic Games’ 'Fortnite,' and playlists by Sephora, MTV and Spotify editorial. We begin the episode by showcasing SuperKnova's captivating track "Ava Gardner," which sets the stage for an engaging conversation about their journey through music, identity, and artistic expression. SuperKnova shares their unique background, revealing that their path to becoming an indie-pop/electronic musician began with jazz and included a stint in medical school. Along the way, music served as a therapeutic outlet while navigating their identity as a queer, transgender person. This transformative experience led SuperKnova to embrace songwriting as a way to process their emotions and life experiences, while their early songs, initially meant for personal reflection, gained an audience on platforms like Bandcamp, leading them to take seriously a career in music.Superknova shares with Nikkie about their intention to create music that uplifts and empowers, particularly for marginalized communities, highlighting the importance of representing queer narratives in their work and weaving universal themes of love, belonging, and acceptance into their lyrics. They then delve into the realities faced by transgender and non-binary artists in the music industry today as SuperKnova shares their thoughts on tokenism and the ongoing challenges of navigating spaces that often feel unwelcoming. They talk about the need for safer environments and platforms that can amplify the voices of underrepresented artists, reflecting on their initiative to create a supportive music group specifically for BIPOC, queer, trans, and non-binary musicians. Toward the end of the episode, they discuss SupernKova's influences, musical style, and their aspirations for the future, including an upcoming fall tour and potential new music that will expand on their artistic vision. The episode then concludes with another of SuperKnova's tracks, called "Seatbelts."This podcast is produced by Stereoactive Media.===https://superknovaofficial.com/https://superknova.bandcamp.com/https://soundcloud.com/superknovamusichttps://www.youtube.com/@SuperKnovaMusichttps://instagram.com/superKnovamusichttps://facebook.com/SuperKnovaMusic===0:11 - Introduction to When We See Each Other058 - “Ava Gardner” by SuperKnova3:51 - Embracing Autumn5:28 - The Journey to Music6:34 - Transitioning from Medicine to Music10:53 - Family and Identity12:20 - The Importance of Chosen Family13:08 - Embracing Queer Identity14:23 - The Origins of SuperKnova14:50 - Learning the Craft22:08 - Creative Process and Inspiration25:35 - The Magic of Ava Gardner28:10 - The Power of Representation33:30 - Connection Through Shared Trauma37:16 - Writing from Identity40:48 - Navigating Indie Music as a Trans Woman45:39 - Creating Safe Spaces in Music49:41 - The Birth of a Community55:11 - Future Projects and Releases56:30 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts56:54 - “Seatbelts” by SuperKnova
An Only Child

An Only Child

2021-05-0558:56

Nikkiesha McLeod delves into the world of queer artistry with An Only Child, a captivating musician and dancer whose debut album, 'Prepare the Body,' is a project steeped in vulnerability. An Only Child shares about their creative journey, starting with their early inspiration to make music, rooted in a childhood filled with singing in the church and an innate urge to express themselves through melody. They also share the nostalgic memory of their first song, a quirky tribute to the animated series 'Rocket Power,' highlighting the blend of innocence and creativity that has persisted throughout their life. From film studies to dance, they reveal a multifaceted background that informs their artistic outlook, emphasizing how these various mediums intertwine and influence their work today. The discussion moves towards the meaning behind the artist's stage name, which is as much about personal identity as it is about artistic expression. They also candidly share the intentions behind their album to unearth and express emotions that have often been kept private, a process intensified by their experience of vocal cord surgery, which temporarily silenced them, and also share how the album title reflects a broader exploration of physical and mental preparation, intertwined with themes of healing and self-care. Throughout our conversation, An Only Child discusses the interplay between their music and dance, revealing how each song conjures a desire to move. This exploration leads to a fascinating commentary on the creative process, where they find inspiration in the comfort of their daily rituals, particularly bathing, which allows for a childlike state of creativity and relaxation. Reflecting on the timing of their album and the impact of the pandemic, An Only Child talks about navigating the unexpected challenges of 2020, including being injured just as they were mixing their album. They share how this tumultuous period has reshaped their perspective on work, rest, and community, emphasizing the newfound appreciation for connection. As we dive deeper, An Only Child elucidates their influences, from personal experiences to other artists in the queer and BIPOC communities, all of whom inspire their work in unique ways. The conversation weaves through topics of identity, resilience, and the quest for authenticity, culminating in thoughts on genre fluidity and the road ahead in a capitalistic world. The chat also touches on heavier themes as An Only Child candidly addresses their lived experience as a Black queer artist, drawing parallels between their identity and the freedom of expression found within their work.===Guest: An Only ChildHost & Producer: Nikkiesha McLeodProducer & Editor: Jeremiah Lee McVayReleased by Stereoactive Media
Mel Fine

Mel Fine

2021-04-0758:16

Nikkie dives deep into the world of singer-songwriter Mel Fine, whose artistry encapsulates the experience and emotion of being a queer, non-binary person in today's music landscape. Mel reflects on their journey through music and identity, exploring the profound influences that have shaped their path as an artist. They share their earliest memories of music, noting that it has always been a form of self-expression and storytelling for them. From early experience in musical theater to taking a more focused approach to songwriting, Mel describes how these experiences allowed them to articulate their feelings and experiences through music. They discuss with Nikkie the therapeutic aspects of songwriting, especially during difficult times, and how Mel's first significant compositions were born out of personal challenges and the desire to connect with others. Mel candidly recounts how their song, "In Between," emerged during a songwriting class when they decided to confront their truth head-on, leading to a cathartic songwriting experience. They reveal their process of coming out to friends, family, and even their audience through the music and its raw vulnerability. Mel shares about the supportive environment they have cultivated among friends and family, breaking down the barriers of misunderstanding that often accompany discussions around gender and identity. Throughout the episode, Mel's infectious passion for storytelling shines as they reflect on the balance between performing live and studio work and their experience auditioning for American Idol.===Guest: Mel FineHost & Producer: Nikkiesha McLeodProducer & Editor: Jeremiah Lee McVayReleased by Stereoactive Media
Mackenzie Shivers

Mackenzie Shivers

2021-02-2556:16

Nikkiesha McLeod welcomes the talented singer-songwriter Mackenzie Shivers, a close friend and an acclaimed musician, to share insights into her upcoming album, Rejection Letter, which is set to be released on April 2nd. The episode begins with Mackenzie's single "Martha's Vineyard," paving the way for an in-depth discussion of the emotional landscape of her music, her artistic evolution and the impact of the pandemic on her creativity, and the importance of supporting independent artists. ===Guest: Mackenzie ShiversHost & Producer: Nikkiesha McLeodProducer & Editor: Jeremiah Lee McVayReleased by Stereoactive Media
Billy Dean Thomas

Billy Dean Thomas

2020-11-0448:45

Nikkie chats with rapper Billy Dean Thomas about their identity, life, and music, including their powerful track "Trust No More" from the EP, For Better or Worse, which delves into the complexities of relationships and the struggles faced by marginalized communities. Billy shares their journey into rap, shaped by their experiences in Harlem, and discusses the inherent political dimensions of their music as a queer Black artist. The discussion then delves into their creative process, highlighting a spontaneous style songwriting that captures raw authenticity. The conversation also addresses the impact of the pandemic on their artistry and living situation, underscoring the importance of supporting underrepresented voices in music. The episode concludes with a captivating performance from Billy, which happen to be one our favorite moments on the podcast so far!===Guest: Billy Dean ThomasHost & Producer: Nikkiesha McLeodProducer & Editor: Jeremiah Lee McVayReleased by Stereoactive Media
NYALLAH

NYALLAH

2020-08-1201:03:06

Nikkie speaks with the talented Black queer gender-nonconforming R&B artist, NYALLAH about their artistic journey, beginning with an exploration of their childhood influences and how their upbringing in a creatively rich household surrounded by a variety of genres – including jazz, reggae, and R&B – infused their music with diverse sounds and emotions. They reminisce about listening to powerful vocalists like Mary J. Blige and Brandy, whose influences are evident in NYALLAH's own powerful and soulful style. Discussing their debut album, 'Reflections,' NYALLAH opens up about the personal and social themes interwoven throughout the work. The album serves as a healing journey, reflecting their experiences with love, loss, and the struggles they face as a Black, queer individual navigating the complexities of identity and societal expectations. NYALLAH also reveals the inspiration behind their standout track "Growing Pains," describing it as a heartfelt letter from their future self, encouraging resilience and growth amidst life's challenges and provides insight into the creative process for 'Reflections,' which took nearly two years to complete. They describe how their experiences at USC shaped their artistry and the challenges they faced in an institution that often privileged white narratives. From struggles with internalized oppression to false perceptions of professionalism, NYALLAH emphasizes how these experiences fueled their desire to create music that authentically represents their truth. The conversation delves into the multifaceted nature of NYALLAH's artistry, their evolution as a songwriter, and their approach to composition. They share how their musical style blends elements of hip-hop and soul, producing a sound that is both dynamic and deeply resonant. NYALLAH emphasizes the importance of cultivating community within their music, stating that collaboration with fellow artists is essential to their creative process. As the conversation turns to visibility in the music industry, NYALLAH candidly addresses the complexities of being a queer, gender-nonconforming artist, recounting experiences of tokenization and erasure while reiterating their commitment to using their platform to uplift Black voices and engage in necessary conversations surrounding identity, mental health, and social justice. NYALLAH's perspective on liberation through art serves as a powerful reminder of the transformative potential of creativity.===Guest: NYALLAHHost & Producer: Nikkiesha McLeodProducer & Editor: Jeremiah Lee McVayReleased by Stereoactive Media
Anjimile

Anjimile

2020-07-2935:49

Nikkie chats with Anjimile, a talented Black trans artist whose highly anticipated album, 'Giver Taker,' is set to release on September 18th via Father Daughter Records. Anjimile shares their journey into music, which was inspired by their upbringing in Texas, surrounded by musical siblings and influenced by the eclectic sounds played by their parents during family chores. The conversation touches on the deep connections between music, identity, and spirituality that permeate Anjimile's work, as they share the inspiration behind their standout single, "Maker," how it emerged during a particularly tumultuous period in their life, and how it explores gender identity and self-definition with lyrics that convey a powerful sense of transformation. Anjimile also reflects on their evolution as a musician since releasing their first EP in 2011, highlighting the maturity that comes with age and experience and emphasizing how their evolving voice—deeper now from testosterone therapy—has transformed their musical expression. They also offer insights into their influences, both musical and non-musical, and how their intersectional identity as a Black queer trans artist shapes their unique sound.===Guest: AnjimileHost & Producer: Nikkiesha McLeodProducer & Editor: Jeremiah Lee McVayReleased by Stereoactive Media
Nikkiesha McLeod is joined by Iman Carter and Christopher Silverberg to discuss author Anastacia-Reneé’s ‘Here in the (Middle) of Nowhere,’ a bold hybrid collection of poetry, flash fiction, and Afrofuturism sci-fi.===Iman and Christopher are participants, along with Nikkie, in writing workshops organized by Cave Canem, a nonprofit organization committed to cultivating the artistic and professional growth of Black poets. Visit https://cavecanempoets.org/ for more information on the organization.===ABOUT ‘HERE IN THE (MIDDLE) OF NOWHERE:’The book explores what happens when god is a Black woman in a town. What happens when there are multiple universes in the middle of nowhere?What if in each universe there reigned other Black woman gods? One million versions of god, and one million saints to watch over us? And what if this Black woman god were placed here on earth?These are just a few of the questions Anastacia-Reneé asks in this daring and mind-bending hybrid collection. Hers is a universe of striking variety—monsters, nontraditional saints, witches, zombies, the couple in the apartment next door, the wise elders from down the block, and gods watching over us all—as well as community and connectedness.With a prose storyline and characters that connect through family, time, and place, Anastacia-Reneé paints world(s) rich with wonder and the paranormal as she peers into the lives of everyday people and spectacular creatures inhabiting not just our neighborhoods, but other dimensions. ‘Here in the (Middle) of Nowhere’ is about interstellar ancestry, community and spirituality. It is about the things we invoke, conjure, and rely on to maintain joy as we keep it moving through difficult eras. Anastacia-Reneé’s power imbues her spellbinding storytelling with lovingly rendered characters brought to life in lyrical poetry. She builds worlds within worlds and dares us to fully see and love ourselves in all our complexity.Get the book at https://www.harpercollins.com/products/here-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-anastacia-renee- Produced and hosted by Nikkiesha McLeod- Produced and edited by Jeremiah Lee McVay- Released and distributed by Stereoactive Media
Nikkiesha McLeod is joined by Iman Carter and Christopher Silverberg to discuss ‘Bitter,' the speculative fiction/young adult novel by Nigerian non-binary author Akwaeke Emezi – and sequel to ‘Pet,’ which was covered in WWSEO Book Club, Vol. 1.===Iman and Christopher are participants, along with Nikkie, in writing workshops organized by Cave Canem, a nonprofit organization committed to cultivating the artistic and professional growth of Black poets. Visit https://cavecanempoets.org/ for more information on the organization.===ABOUT BITTER:From National Book Award finalist Akwaeke Emezi comes a companion novel to the critically acclaimed PET that explores both the importance and cost of social revolution--and how youth lead the way.After a childhood in foster care, Bitter is thrilled to have been chosen to attend Eucalyptus, a special school where she can focus on her painting surrounded by other creative teens. But outside this haven, the streets are filled with protests against the deep injustices that grip the city of Lucille.Bitter’s instinct is to stay safe within the walls of Eucalyptus… but her friends aren’t willing to settle for a  world that’s so far away from what they deserve. Pulled between old friendships, her artistic passion, and a new romance, Bitter isn’t sure where she  belongs—in the studio or in the streets. And if she does find a way to help the revolution while being true to who she is, she must also ask: at what cost? This timely and riveting novel—a companion to the National Book Award finalist Pet—explores the power of youth, protest, and art.Get the book at https://www.getunderlined.com/books/664028/bitter-by-akwaeke-emezi/===- Produced and hosted by Nikkiesha McLeod- Produced and edited by Jeremiah Lee McVay- Released and distributed by Stereoactive Media
Nikkiesha is joined by Serena Oduro and Christopher Silverberg to discuss 'Pet,' the speculative fiction/young adult novel by Nigerian non-binary author Akwaeke Emezi.===Serena and Christopher are participants, along with Nikkie, in writing workshops organized by Cave Canem, a nonprofit organization committed to cultivating the artistic and professional growth of Black poets. Visit https://cavecanempoets.org/ for more information on the organization.===ABOUT PET:-NATIONAL BOOK AWARD FINALIST-STONEWALL BOOK AWARD WINNER -ONE OF TIME MAGAZINE’S 100 BEST YA BOOKS OF ALL TIMEA genre-defying novel from the award-winning author NPR describes as “like [Madeline] L’Engle…glorious.” A singular book that explores themes of identity and justice. Pet is here to hunt a monster. Are you brave enough to look?There are no monsters anymore, or so the children in the city of Lucille are taught. Jam and her best friend, Redemption, have grown up with this lesson all their life. But when Jam meets Pet, a creature made of horns and colors and claws, who emerges from one of her mother's paintings and a drop of Jam's blood, she must reconsider what she's been told. Pet has come to hunt a monster, and the shadow of something grim lurks in Redemption's house. Jam must fight not only to protect her best friend, but also to uncover the truth, and the answer to the question--How do you save the world from monsters if no one will admit they exist?A riveting and timely young adult debut novel that asks difficult questions about what choices you can make when the society around you is in denial. "[A] beautiful, genre-expanding debut" –The New York Times"The word hype was invented to describe books like this." –Refinery29Get the book at https://www.rhcbooks.com/books/586483/pet-by-akwaeke-emezi===This podcast is produced by Stereoactive Media.
Nikkiesha: Hello, world. My name is Nikkiesha McLeod. When We See Each Other is a podcast that focuses on music and art by BIPOC, queer, trans, and non-binary artists, as well as artists I've met and known for some time.Producer, multi-instrumentalist, singer-songwriter, SuperKnova...SuperKnova: You know, it took some time and therapy to really get out the internalized transphobia and really be proud of who I was and realize the obvious that there's nothing wrong with being transgender and it's a beautiful gift and just another example of the million ways you could live a life and the beautiful, diverse complexity of our world.Nikkiesha: The black, queer, gender, non-conforming, Femi, R&B artist, NYALLAH...NYALLAH: Me just choosing to write about my experiences and like to write about softness and to write about emotion and vulnerability, that within itself is an act of liberation and an act of defiance because I'm not supposed to speak.Nikkiesha: Black trans artist Anjimile...Anjimile: It's funny because I like came out in this song before I came out in real life. Like, I didn't realize until years later that this song related to my, like, trans masculine identity. And at the time I was still like exploring what trans meant and not really thinking too much on it. And I also relate my, like, gender and my queerness to my sense of spirituality.Nikkiesha: The amazing rapper, Billy Dean Thomas...Just to end, I'm wondering, can you give us, like, a few bars?Billy Dean Thomas: Yeah. (rapping) I need a moment to process. Hear the prophet like Nostradamus, but not talking commas. Yeah, you smart but don't got no common sense Like Bruce Willis got six senses to kill us I'm seeing ghosts of these rappers when I open up my pen It's the thoughtful sustenance Look at the shit we up against I got beats, abundances We flowing together like ligaments And yeah, I'm glad I'm pigmented Hate the pigs in the systemNikkiesha: You can find more information about this show at stereoactivemedia.com/whenweseeeachother. And please follow us wherever you happen to listen to podcasts.===https://www.stereoactivemedia.com/whenweseeeachother/
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