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Author: Dr. Jim Dahle of the White Coat Investor

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Host, Dr. James Dahle, is a practicing emergency physician and founder of the White Coat Investor Blog. Like the blog, the White Coat Investor Podcast, is dedicated to educating medical students, residents, physicians, dentists, and similar high-income professionals about personal finance and building wealth, so they can ultimately be their own financial advisor—or, at least know enough to not get ripped off by a financial advisor! We tackle the hard topics like the best ways to pay off student loans, how to create your own personal financial plan, retirement planning, how to save money, investing in real estate, side hustles, and how everyone can be a millionaire by living WCI principles. Learn more at http://whitecoatinvestor.com/
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Everyone should be contributing to a Roth IRA every year. This is retirement account space that you can't get back. Many of us need to contribute to the Roth IRA through the backdoor, which can be confusing. In this episode we discuss what a backdoor Roth IRA is, steps for successfully contributing to a backdoor Roth IRA, and how to fix errors that occur in each step. See full show notes here whitecoatinvestor.com/the-backdoor-roth-ira-made-easy-podcast-194 For those who have mastered the backdoor Roth IRA we also answer listener questions about adding new asset classes to your investment plan, tax implications for inherited money, helping parents with financial advice, behavioral and math components to personal finance, legal issues concerning being recorded at work, and recharacterizing contributions you have made to your retirement accounts. If you have not done your Roth IRA contribution yet this year, let this episode be the motivation to get it done. If you have student loans, SoFi https://www.sofi.com/whitecoatinvestor/ practically invented student loan refinancing in 2011 and right now they have the lowest starting fixed interest rates they’ve had in years, which could help you save thousands of dollars on your student loans. Plus, they just lowered rates for physicians and dentists still in residency. If you refinance your student loans through Sofi , you’ll get a $500 cash welcome bonus just for listeners of this podcast.
Burnout is a big risk to your finances. Your fastest path to cash is as a board-certified doctor. We want you to be happily practicing medicine for as long as you would like. Our guest in this episode is Dr. Dike Drummond who we have written about before https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/using-a-venn-diagram-to-decrease-burnout/ . He has spent the last 20 years coaching and training physicians on the prevention and recovery from burnout. In this interview we discuss the causes of physician burnout, depression vs burnout, symptoms of burnout, and how to recover from it. Recovering from and preventing burnout, and building a wonderful life is just connecting a series of baby steps. If you are feeling burned out and looking for a cure, start with this episode and it will help you identify the next steps. See the show notes here http://whitecoatinvestor.com/cure-physician-burnout-with-dr-dike-drummond-podcast-193 Gain the expertise to manage the business of medicine with the Physicians Executive MBA at Auburn University’s Harbert College of Business. Their flexible physicians-only program lets you earn your MBA without taking you away from your patients. Auburn’s unique twenty-one-month program blends innovative distance learning with five short on-campus residencies. Tailored to the practicing physician, Auburn’s Physicians Executive MBA program is currently enrolling for Fall 2021. Take control of your future during these challenging times. Learn more at http://www.auburn-pemba.com
I often tell people having a written investing plan is crucial to their financial success. That requires that the investing plan first be reasonable. There are lots of portfolios out there that simply are not reasonable. There is not just one way to invest successfully. If you pick something reasonable and fund it adequately, you are highly likely to reach your goals. In this episode we will go through 10 ways to know if your written financial plan is reasonable, answer several listener questions about their financial plans, and give you directions on how to get a written financial plan in place, if you have not done this important step yet. See the full show notes here http://whitecoatinvestor.com/is-your-financial-plan-reasonable-podcast-192 Our sponsor, Doctor Disability Insurance, Inc. is an innovative, one-stop service that makes disability insurance shopping quick, affordable, and easy to understand. Physicians and Dentists save time and money by comparing plans and prices from multiple insurance companies. The site provides free quotes from leading companies in the disability insurance industry along with friendly and knowledgeable customer support. Based in San Clemente California, President and CEO Chuck Krugh is a Certified Financial Planner with more than 20 years of experience working with professionals in the medical/dental industry. If you need disability insurance contact Chuck today at https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/doctordisability
There are 10 big financial mistakes that doctors make. We see these made repeatedly over and over again. If you can avoid these, you're going to have a great career and financial life. We often think we have to get everything right with our finances, but you really don't. You just have to avoid the big screw ups. If you have made one of these mistakes, fix it today and get back on track for a successful financial life. See the full show notes at https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/dont-make-these-10-financial-mistakes-podcast-191 This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time White Coat Investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100
We can learn a lot from the research examining how self-made, economically successful Americans became that way. Our guest this week is Sarah Stanley Fallaw. You may not be as familiar with her name as you are of her late father, Thomas Stanley, author of The Millionaire Next Door. See the full show notes for our interview here https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/the-next-millionaire-next-door-podcast-190 They were involved in research examining these economically successful Americans and co-wrote The Next Millionaire Next Door. Much has changed from the first millionaire book. A new generation are hearing from self proclaimed experts in personal finance due to the proliferation of  financial blogs and podcasts, like WCI. In this episode we talk about the concept of a millionaire, though the name and image haven't changed, a million dollars is nowhere near what it used to be. We discuss the decisions, behaviors, and characteristics of the new millionaire next door and how they align with the discipline of building wealth.  The main lessons of her work seem to be that millionaires are mostly self-made, surprisingly frugal, and spend time doing things that build wealth. We talk about each of those things in this episode. This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time White Coat Investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100.
189: Inherited IRAs

189: Inherited IRAs

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If you are fortunate enough to inherit an IRA there are some things you should know. Inherited IRAs, also known as stretch IRAs (https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/new-stretch-ira/)  have changed this year. You can no longer leave it to your great grandchild and have them stretch it over the next 80 years. They have to withdraw all the money in year 10. But a listener asked how this affects the backdoor Roth IRA, when it makes sense to roll the IRA over, and whether you can roll these over in the same way as you would other accounts. We delve into these questions in this episode for those looking forward to an inherited IRA.  For the rest of you, we talk about whether you should do Roth or tax-deferred 401K contributions, rebuilding your practice during COVID, rebalancing your accounts, whether a medical student should buy disability and umbrella insurance, and what to do if you should have done your Roth IRA through the backdoor but you didn't. Check out the full show notes here https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/inherited-iras-podcast-189 This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time White Coat Investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at drdisabilityquotes.com today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100.
The work of Dr. Rick Hodes in Ethiopia is inspiring. He is working in an international inter-religious, interfaith, inter-ethnic environment to make the world a better place. He is the doctor we wrote we wanted to be in our medical school admission essay. We talk about how he got started practicing medicine internationally, the interesting work that he has done, and the many people that he has been able to help. We discuss the finances behind work like this and the effort put into fundraising. Some people have criticized international aid programs saying they are doing more harm than good and we get into that too. Many of our profession are suffering from burnout. Dr. Hodes has some advice on that as well, 30+ years into his career. We also talk about how you can help. For not a lot of money, we can help a lot of people. Rick shows us what a true calling in medicine can look like. Take a listen and see if you find this interview as inspiring as I did. This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time White Coat Investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at drdisabilityquotes.com today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100.
Is there a recommended percentage of your portfolio that should be in Roth accounts when you retire? We are asked this question a lot. People think there must be an optimal mix. Is there? And is it worth the cost to get to it? These questions are discussed in this episode. There is a general rule of when to make pre-tax vs post-tax retirement contributions as well as when are good times to do Roth conversions. Listen to this show to better understand those as well. We also dive into listener questions about paying off the mortgage vs investing in a taxable account, understanding how to max out your 401(k), cash balance plans, investing in farmland, over contributing to your HSA, rebalancing your portfolio between accounts, investing in annuities, and the complications of sharing assets with extended family members. A wide variety of listener questions this week that will hopefully be helpful to many.  Sponsor Provider Solutions & Development is a community of experts dedicated to offering guidance and career coaching to physicians and clinicians throughout their entire job search. Whether you are looking to dive deeper into your specialty work, strive towards a healthier work-life balance, or a little bit of both, they can help find the right fit for you. Start the conversation today at www.psdrecruit.org/whitecoatinvestor.
The financial pathway of a major airline pilot is remarkably similar to that of a doctor. A lot of people don't realize they make doctor-like incomes and actually have a lot of doctor-like financial challenges. You make little to no income for a decade, then pretty good income for as long as you can go without burning out. Joining us in this episode is Jason Depew, a veteran and current captain with Delta. We discuss the parallels between the financial lives of doctors and pilots like high income, burnout, geographical arbitrage, lack of financial education, and the loss of income during this pandemic. Pilots are unionized. We talk about the benefits and drawbacks of being part of a powerful union, which may be the future of medical professionals. Pilots, especially with the major airlines, are a high income professional category that we don't  discuss a lot at the White Coat Investor, but this episode will be a great resource for our pilot listeners as well as all other high income professionals.  This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time White Coat Investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at drdisabilityquotes.com today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100.
The Canadian financial system is similar but not quite the same as the U.S. financial system. In this episode we talk about the Canadian retirement system, the programs they have similar to the U.S. social security system. We discuss their versions of our Traditional and Roth IRA accounts. Considering our close proximity to each other, it is no surprise that a couple of listeners have questions about working in one country and living in another as well as Americans married to Canadians and what to do about citizenship. We cover the pros and cons of those situations in this episode. For those with no connection to the Great White North we also answer other questions about separately managed accounts, over-contributing to the 457(b), marketing timing in the de-cumulation phase, UTMA accounts, and the CARES Act tax deductible student loan payment.  Sponsor This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time White Coat Investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at drdisabilityquotes.com today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100.
It is becoming more and more common for physician groups to be approached by a private equity firm that wants to buy the practice and make them “more efficient.” Of course the older partners think that this is a good time to sell. The younger doctors thought they just joined a partnership and were looking forward to owning their business and having control. What do you do if you are the younger doctor? We discuss some ideas in this episode that will hopefully help, if you find yourself in this situation. We also answer a lot of other listener question about challenges facing families with children with special needs, small business retirement accounts, understanding a wash sale, reporting the backdoor Roth IRA with a loss, understanding dividend stock investing, the S&P 500 vs total stock market index fund, and what recommendations I have for medical students to do early in their career to prepare themselves for entering the workforce. This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time White Coat Investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at drdisabilityquotes.com today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100.
Our guest today is Dr. Hala Sabry, the founder of the Physician Moms Group on Facebook. Who better to ask about physician moms and their finances than a physician mom managing a group with 75,000+ other physician mom members! We delve into lots of topics surrounding finances as a physician mom including infertility, child care, career changes, and gender wage gap. We talk about women in medicine.  Over 50% of medical students are now women. What implications will that have for the physician workforce? Women are often hesitant to negotiate when getting a new job. What can be done to encourage them to negotiate harder and avoid any negative consequences that could come from doing so? Not everyone has this Instagram perfect life where they're beautiful and have no struggles. Our lives are hard, layered, and dynamic. Not only is medicine your profession, but it is your identity. Your worlds kind of collide as a physician mom and it is a lot of pressure. The truth is, it is not just women who are struggling. Men have the same issues, balancing life and work and all these other things but today's episode really focuses on them from a woman's perspective.  Now is the time to start thinking about whether your current tax plan is truly tax-efficient and keeping more of your hard-earned money in your pocket.  At Cerebral Tax Advisors, https://www.cerebraltaxadvisors.com/ they focus on all year PROACTIVE tax planning, and, as the spouse of a physician, their founder, Alexis Gallati, has over 18 years of experience using court-tested, IRS approved tax strategies to lower your effective tax rate and increase your wealth.  Her services are flat rate, and she will show you your return on investment before you invest in Cerebral’s services.  With 2020 coming to a close, NOW is the time to see if you are missing vital strategies in your tax plan. 
What general market trends do we see during election seasons? What usually happens if a Republican president wins a second term? What usually happens if a Republican president were to lose to a Democrat? If the office were to change hands, what is the usual market trend during the lame duck period and also just after a new president takes office? More importantly what should you do with your portfolio based on these trends? We dive into this past market data in this episode, find some interesting trends, and give some warnings on what you should do. Spoiler: Please don't make any huge changes to your investing plan based on how the election is going, what is in the political news, even what is in the economic news. This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com.  He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time White Coat Investor sponsor.  He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies.  If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at drdisabilityquotes.com today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100.
Practicing evidence-based medicine is important to physicians, looking at data and changing our practice according to it. Our guest in this episode, Larry Swedroe, has been a proponent of evidence-based investing for a long-time. His teachings have affected me over the years and certainly affected my portfolio construction. In this interview we talk about the limited data set in finance in comparison to other more scientific fields and how much we can rely on that retrospective data going forward. We discuss portfolio construction, alternative asset classes, recommended strategies for spending down assets in retirement, and investment mistakes smart investors make. Are you a smart investor? Find out in today’s episode.  This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time white coat investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at drdisabilityquotes.com today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100.
What does it take to become a millionaire? Hear the experiences of seven millionaires in this episode talk about how they did it. You may recall we did our first episode with physician millionaires the start of 2020. People loved hearing from these successful doctors and what they did to win financially, but they wanted more women represented. So all seven guests today are female, 6 physicians and an engineer. We talk about similar stuff to what we did last episode, how they did it, their mindset, what their money is invested in, but also discuss what it is like as a woman to have a career as a higher earner and be able to build wealth. Did their gender hold them back in that pursuit or not? What were their keys to success? What advice do they have for those who are a decade or two behind them, wondering, “can I, as a woman, become a millionaire still? If you go and look at the data, it is a pretty small percentage of physicians in their 60s that have a net worth more than $5 million. It is awesome to have several all in one episode to learn from. Enjoy! This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at drdisabilityquotes.com. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time white coat investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage to make sure it meets your needs or if you just haven’t gotten around to getting this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at drdisabilityquotes.com today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100. 
What changes when you make partner? When you become a partner, you go from being an employee to being an owner. So, there are lots of financial changes. See the full show notes here https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/classic-blog/ I'm a big fan of ownership and think generally becoming a partner is the right move for your career. There are more risks and hassle to being a partner but more rewards and profits as well. We discuss the advantages and responsibilities to becoming a partner in a practice including getting K-1s instead of W-2s, making quarterly estimated tax payments, writing off legitimate business expenses, paying for your own benefits and understanding retirement accounts available to you. In this episode listener questions are also answered about losing faith in long term market returns, being an accredited investor, value tilting your portfolio, what to do with your cash, tax gain harvesting, and the pro-rata rule. Provider Solutions & Development is a community of experts dedicated to offering guidance and career coaching to physicians and clinicians throughout their entire job search. Whether you are looking to dive deeper into your specialty work, strive towards a healthier work-life balance, or a little bit of both, they can help find the right fit for you. Start the conversation today at www.psdrecruit.org/whitecoatinvestor.
What is it like to practice medicine in Australia? Our guest in this episode walks us through the training and practicing of physicians in the land down under. We talk about what the medical system is like in Australia as well as how physicians are compensated. From time to time we bring doctors on the show from other countries, we've had a British physician and a doctor who trained in Venezuela on. It is fun to dive into the medical world of another country. Sometimes in the U.S. we get these almost blinders on and think we're the only country in the world. We don't really realize that there are a lot of lessons that could be learned from other countries, that we can really apply in our own lives to simplify both our medical system and our financial system. I think you will find this interview really interesting.  Sponsor 2020 is coming quickly to a close and, thank goodness because we could all use a silver lining. Now is the time to start thinking about whether your current tax plan is truly tax-efficient and keeping more of your hard-earned money in your pocket.  At Cerebral Tax Advisors http://www.cerebraltaxadvisors.com/, they focus on all year PROACTIVE tax planning, and, as the spouse of a physician, their founder, Alexis Gallati, has over 18 years of experience using court-tested, IRS approved tax strategies to lower your effective tax rate and increase your wealth. She began Cerebral to help docs have a clear path to success through tax efficiency while eliminating surprises.  Her services are flat rate and she will show you your return on investment before you invest in Cerebral’s services.  With 2020 coming to a close NOW is the time to see if you are missing vital strategies in your tax plan. If you’d like to find out more or schedule a free consultation, visit their website or check out Alexis’ new book: Advanced Tax Planning for Medical Professionals.
Your financial planning after having a child with special needs will be different than you might have otherwise anticipated. In this episode we talk about 6 aspects of financial planning that are important to understand when you are in this situation. Your investing horizon is no longer your lifetime. It is now your child's lifetime. Government resources available to your child will affect your financial planning. You will need to look at your life, disability, and health insurance differently as a parent with a child with special needs. The benefits of an individual educational plan at school will help with the financial aspect of raising a child with special needs.  Some states provide better benefits to those living with disabilities, both while in school and as adults. This could play a part in the decision you make of where to live with your child. ABLE accounts and irrevocable trusts are also discussed.  For those not in this situation we also cover many listener questions in this episode, including converting bonds to TIPS funds, true-ups and vesting in your work retirement plans, whether you should be financially planning for the future you want or the future that might end up happening, the problems with leaving your assets to multiple people, choosing a renter, whether to invest in a 529 for K-12 private school, what percentage of an asset allocation international stocks should comprise and where they should go, and more.  This podcast is sponsored by ERE Healthcare Real Estate Advisors. Collin Hart, CEO of ERE, has been a guest on my show and specializes in representing leading physician groups in structuring sale and leaseback transactions on their clinical and surgical center real estate. ERE is a real estate brokerage, but takes an advisory approach, expertly positioning their clients for a real estate sale as part of succession planning surrounding their practice real estate investment.  If you're contemplating a partnership with a hospital, health system, or private equity, understanding certain real estate principles can help ensure that you maximize the value and security of your real estate.  You can learn more about ERE on their website or you can reach Collin directly at collin.hart@ereadv.com or call him at (702) 839-8737.
I have been asked for several years if any doctors have received public service loan forgiveness. Public Service Loan Forgiveness first became available in 2007. Since it is a ten year program, the first eligible recipients would be in 2017 but for various reasons a lot of people aren't going to be eligible for it until 2021-2023. Mostly because the program was not very well known when it first came out, as the doctor will mention in this episode. But I am excited to bring two special guests on the podcast today. I have been waiting to have guests like this on for three years. In this episode I interview Mariko and Dan about their experience working through the PSLF program for ten years and their recent success of receiving forgiveness. We talk about their experience with the phone calls, documentation, and time they put into fixing all the mistakes made by their student loan servicers. They share tips for those following in their footsteps. If you are thinking about going for PSLF or are currently working towards it, this is a must listen to episode. For the rest of you, we answer a couple of listener questions at the end about preferred stocks and Roth vs Traditional 401(k) contributions. A lot of physicians have questions about locum tenens, and locumstory.com is the place for them to get real, unbiased answers to those questions, basic questions like, “What is locum tenens?” to more complex questions about pay ranges, taxes, various specialties, and how locum tenens works for PAs and NPs. And then there’s the big question: Is it right for you? Go to locumstory.com and get the answers.
When faced with making a decision you may find yourself with the inability to act due to overthinking the available alternatives and possible outcomes. This is commonly known as analysis paralysis. When you get analysis paralysis with finances, what often happens is you are so worried about making a mistake that you don't do anything at all. The more money you have, the worse this can be. When you don't make a choice to invest, you are making a choice. You're making a choice to invest in cash. If that is not the decision that you want to make, then you need to fix your paralysis. Leaving money sitting in an account earning close to nothing is not going to give you the same long term returns as investing in stocks, bonds, and real estate. Fixing analysis paralysis with your finances starts with having a written investment plan. We talk in more detail about that in this episode so you have a plan on what to do with your money. Provider Solutions & Development is a community of experts dedicated to offering guidance and career coaching to physicians and clinicians throughout their entire job search. Whether you are looking to dive deeper into your specialty work, strive towards a healthier work-life balance, or a little bit of both, they can help find the right fit for you. Start the conversation today at www.psdrecruit.org/whitecoatinvestor.
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Megan Akins

Great post. I have both federal and private loans. Do I refinance them separately or together? Thank you.

Mar 30th
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Luke Brindamour

could you label the subjects of each podcast?

Aug 29th
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