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Author: Katie Barlow & Joe Lockhart

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American politics is undergoing seismic changes that will alter the course of history. As hosts of Words Matter, Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart believe that facts, evidence, truth and objective reality are necessary and vital in public discourse. Katie and Joe have broad experience in government, politics and journalism -- this gives them a unique ability to explain recent events and place them in historic context. Together, with fellow journalists, elected officials, policy-makers and thought-leaders, they will analyze the week's news and get at the real truth behind all the distracting headlines. New episodes released Mondays. Produced and recorded out of The Hangar Studios, NYC.
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He is the REAL author of The Art of the Deal -- Tony Schwartz joins Joe for an in-depth interview about how dangerous Tony thinks Donald Trump is as Commander-n-Chief. And Tony tells Joe the one thing he thinks Trump may leave the White House to avoid.And don't miss Joe's Shadow White House Briefing weekdays on Twitter until @PressSec decides to brief the White House Press Corps.
It has been more than two months since White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders has briefed the White House Press Corps. But journalists and the American have questions and those questions need to be answered. . . .and so former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart is stepping up. Joe explain why he will be hosting a daily Shadow White House Press Briefing and how you can ask him questions on Twitter.
It has been more than two months since White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders has briefed the White House Press Corps. But journalists and the American have questions and those questions need to be answered. . . .and so former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart is stepping up. Joe explain why he will be hosting a daily Shadow White House Press Briefing and how you can ask him questions on Twitter.Full Episode Available tomorrow
This week, Joe talks to Washington wiseman Ron Klain about the Trump Administration and their Republican allies on Capitol Hill are now waging asymmetrical constitutional warfare.Ron is a distinguished attorney and policy maker who began his career as a Supreme Court clerk for Justice Bryon White. Ron has served in senior positions at the White House, the Department of Justice and on Capitol Hill. He is a veteran of 7 – yes SEVEN presidential campaigns. And in October 2014, he was appointed by President Obama to serve as the United States Ebola response coordinator.
This week, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said what many have thought for weeks, months and even years: the United States government is in a constitutional crisis.Former federal prosecutor Mimi Rocah explains to Joe exactly why.Mimi is Pace Law's Distinguished Fellow in Criminal Justice and a Legal Analyst for MSNBC and NBC News. From February 2001 until October 2017, Mimi was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York.  As an AUSA, Mimi successfully prosecuted and tried numerous cases including several high-profile Organized Crime cases. During her career in SDNY, Mimi held a number of leadership positions including, Chief of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Unit, as well as Chief of the General Crimes and Narcotics Units for the SDNY.
Joe interviews Mimi Rocah and they discuss whether or not we have reached the point of a Constitutional Crisis. The full interview drops on Thursday.Mimi Rocah is Pace Law's Distinguished Fellow in Criminal Justice and a Legal Analyst for MSNBC and NBC News. From February 2001 until October 2017, Mimi was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York.  As an AUSA, Mimi successfully prosecuted and tried numerous cases including several high-profile Organized Crime cases. During her career in SDNY, Mimi held a number of leadership positions including, Chief of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Unit, as well as Chief of the General Crimes and Narcotics Units for the SDNY.
Mark Leibovich

Mark Leibovich

2019-05-0600:51:13

Katie and Joe talk with award winning journalist and best-selling author, Mark Leibovich about Washington in the Age of Trump, Impeachment and the NFL. Mark is the chief national correspondent for The New York Times Magazine. Among other books, Mark is the author of the blockbuster best seller This Town Two Parties and a Funeral-Plus, Plenty of Valet Parking!-in America's Gilded Capital as well as Big Game: The NFL in Dangerous Times. 
This week we put The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right, by Max Boot into the Words Matter Library. Washington Post Columnist Max Boot details his ideological journey from a “movement” conservative to a man without a party, beginning with his political coming-of-age as a young émigré from the Soviet Union, enthralled with the National Review and the conservative intellectual tradition of Russell Kirk and F. A. Hayek. Against this personal odyssey, Max simultaneously traces the evolution of modern American conservatism, jump-started by Barry Goldwater’s canonical The Conscience of a Conservative, to the rise of Trumpism and its gradual corrosion of what was once the Republican Party.
The Post Mueller Landscape

The Post Mueller Landscape

2019-04-2900:51:25

Katie and Joe discuss the Biden roll-out, the Great Impeachment Debate, Sarah Sanders and 28 years later we give Anita Hill the final word.
To impeach or not to impeach -- that is the question. This week our own Joe Lockhart had a op-ed column published in The New York Times under the headline: “There’s a Prize Bigger than Impeachment” -- that followed a Times column back in March by our friend Philippe Reines co-Host of the new podcast Unredacted with Emily Brandwin and Molly Jong Fast, entitled --  “Why Impeaching Trump is ‘Worth It’”. Philippe's argument was the exact opposite of Joe's.So, they decided to debate the issue face to face on Words Matter. Katie moderates Round 1 of the Great Impeachment Debate.
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Darcie Harris

I was 51% in favor of impeachment until Joe articulated that McConnell would run the show & Robert's would preside. That changed my mind! Thanks for intelligent discourse.

Apr 26th
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Lori Brooks

So, why have you just skipped over Elise leaving? Is she taking a break or has she left the show?

Mar 2nd
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Lori Brooks

Thank you for all you have done. I hope that you are able to continue with this podcast. I like the no nonsense views that have been discussed.

Feb 19th
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David Perkins

sounds like steve and elise are both gone? plans? rotating hosts? finding sponsors?

Feb 19th
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Nonya Bizness

well ~that~ was dramatic! steve basically said ask me anything- except why mr. starbucks thinks a 70% tax on income over $10B is "ridiculous", and who the tax would negatively impact other than himself. sounded like he literally threw the mike and hit the door. wow. i would argue that it is ridiculous to assert that this tax would ~negatively~ impact anyone who exists on such a rarified and charmed plain of existence. at that level of money hoarding, the tax would have ZERO negative impact on the quality of the lives of these handful of people- that is utterly indisputable. it ~might~, however, negatively impact their ability to control the quality of the lives of a nation, and a planet. words do matter, and steve had none to defend or even explain schultz's position. this podcast has illuminated and informed on my position regarding schultz. thank you.

Feb 17th
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Lori Brooks

Nonya Bizness I watched an AMAZING interview with Bill Gates on the "Verge" where he explained that there is a much better way to get money from the super rich (including himself). He explained that the 70% tax would have several major flaws and that a better solution is to tax the "wealth" of the super rich. For example, their properties, vehicles, stocks and bonds, and money in various banks. Check it out. I have the utmost respect for Bill Gates and his wife.

Feb 22nd
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Lisa Skondras

I think the way Adam handled this interview was completely juvenile. Perhaps he can't hold a candle to Steve Schmidt intellectually so being antagonistic was his only option. Steve Schmidt is one of the clearer voices speaking truthfully about what is going on in politics and the Trump administration and I look forward to see where he goes with Howard Schultz and beyond. Sadly, I will not be tuning in to Words Matter any longer.

Feb 17th
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Natalie Willis

wow I sure lost a lot of respect for Steve Schmidt. what a big fucking.baby. guess all that $CHILTZ money has clouded his judgement.

Feb 14th
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deborah sammons

Well, lots of us won't be back after this display. Obviously neither of you (Elise or Adam) are prepared to interview Steve who may well be one of only 3 individuals astute enough to speak accurately to the current disastrous state of the state in which we find ourselves thanks to this administration. Elise may mean well but is clearly too simplistic and Adam is a jerk. As Steve said, this was BS

Feb 13th
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Robert Bruce

https://www.thedailybeast.com/steve-schmidt-storms-off-own-podcast-when-asked-about-advising-howard-schultz

Feb 11th
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Kevin Lee

I'm out. Elise and Steve are the reason I listen. Drop dead, Adam.

Feb 11th
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David Perkins

whats up..does he have a campaign he's going to?

Feb 10th
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CD Neal

holy cow. welp glad the podcast will continue.

Feb 10th
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Darcie Harris

I'm posting this comment here because I don't know how else to communicate with Steve Schmidt. I have the utmost respect for you Mr. Schmidt, and always listen carefully to your thoughts and opinions. I hope Howard Schultz does as well, and that you will encourage him to run for President as Democrat, NOT an Independent, which would surely hand the 2020 election to Trump. My understanding is that he has been a lifelong Democrat, so it's unimaginable that he would put ego before country.

Jan 30th
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deborah sammons

Darcie Harris And all thinking people said AMEN

Feb 18th
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Mel Vis

Steve Schmid you've admitted Palin was a mistake. Running Howard as an independent would be another.

Jan 30th
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Barb Griffith

So happy to hear Steve back on a podcast. I agree with all you said Kevin. A very good podcast.

Jan 22nd
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Kevin

Nice to hear Steve's thoughts on the current Democratic Primary field, as well as where he thinks we're headed in 2019. His analogy of driving drunk is quite on the money for our current state of affairs. Also, the MLK clips were beyond moving.

Jan 21st
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Glenn Gilliam

not hardly, she's a ding bat

Jan 11th
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Arthur Harlan Williams

Glenn Gilliam well she's certainly got you scared that you have to resort to misogynistic name calling... and that's probably good... you apparently need to be afearing the power of grandmothers

Jan 16th
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John Morrell

I'm 64, almost 65. I guess I'm an ossified Republican. I struggled to l listen through this discussion. Nevertheless, I'm intrigued by what these individuals are saying, that there could be a way to get through, to retain many of the values I hold onto as superior, that is not under the umbrella of Republican.

Dec 26th
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Kevin

Excellent episode. Cannot recommend it enough

Dec 17th
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Johnny L

good podcast, but 🖕#fucktrump #charlatan

Dec 14th
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