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Secrets to success? No, thank you. Welcome to Work Friends, a podcast for sharing upfront and unfiltered career stories—the good, the bad, and the unapologetically ambitious. Because what’s better than a bit of real talk among friends?Each episode, Sali Christeson, Founder and CEO of women’s workwear brand, Argent, hosts one of her Work Friends for a conversation about climbing the corporate ladder, building a brand from scratch, raising money, and finding success on their own terms. Meet industry-shifting women in media, entertainment, business, and more, as they share the ups and downs of their careers, without glossing over the difficult parts.This podcast is for everyone who takes their work (but not always themselves) seriously and believes in radical equality in, and out of, the workplace. Ambition suits you.
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Emily Tisch Sussman, host of She Pivots and co-owner of Gotham FC and the New York Giants, doesn't just talk about making career changes—she’s lived it. BIG time. This week, she sits down with Sali to get candid about struggling to make a name for herself, placing her value in her work, and what happened when it all fell apart. Spoiler alert: Right around the time she became a mother.A lawyer by trade, Emily has previously worked as a lobbyist, strategist, and TV political commentator. After giving birth to her third child, however, she recognized the need for change. Today, we’ll talk about:navigating a career path when you’re not sure what you’re good at.what it means to step away from the roles you’ve committed your life to when they no longer fit.working on the Obama campaign and being a political commentator for Fox News,the honest experience of early parenthood and not feeling an instant connection to your children.launching the She Pivots podcast and why it’s drawing huge guests, including Vice President Kamala Harris, Vanessa Hudgens, and Bobbi Brown.Want to hear more from Emily? She Pivots Season 5 premieres March 25.0:40  Introduction 2:24  Biggest "Oh No" Moment 4:13  Growing Up In N.Y.C. 6:55  Struggling to Find A Career Path 15:46  Law School22:11  Working on the Obama Campaign 30:06  Appearing on Fox News 33:28  She Pivots 51:32 Co-Owner of Gotham FC 1:04:57 Career Changes: Plan or Leap?1:06:05 Would You Rather?On Sali: Argent Chelsea Blazer, Ribbed Collar Sweater, and Wide Leg TrouserOn Emily: Argent Double-Breasted Crewneck Blazer and Single Pleat TrouserHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan Woldoff @c__bizTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudio
Trailblazer and self-professed rulebreaker Reshma Saujani joins us on Work Friends this week. Reshma is the founder and former CEO of Girls Who Code, a New York Times bestselling author, and the host of the podcast “My So-Called Midlife.” Today, she’s also the founder and CEO of Moms First, where she continues to be an awe-inspiring culture-shifter and staunch advocate for women—from girlhood to motherhood and beyond. Her latest venture at Moms First is Reshma’s debut documentary project this June, spotlighting the lies dividing American moms and chronicling a nationwide movement to bring them back together and win historic support.There’s so much amazing ground to cover in this discussion, as we walk through:Reshma’s background as a first-generation American who set her sights on law school.her decision to run for U.S. Congress—the first Indian American woman to do so—and how she dealt with feelings of failure after her loss.why she pivoted to launching a coding organization for young girls, eventually turning it into the largest pipeline for women and nonbinary individuals to careers in STEM.the historic struggle of mothers in America, and a real solution to the affordability issue (hint: it’s not eggs.)and, why Moms First debut documentary is lifting the voices of all mothers…and how you can get involved, too.For more information about Moms First: The History of American Motherhood, or to submit your own story to the film, become an associate producer, or sign up to host a screening in your hometown, check out momsfirst.us/doc.On Sali: Argent Double-Breasted Crewneck Blazer and Tailored Cargo PantOn Reshma: Argent Colorblocked Sculpted BlazerHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan Woldoff @c__bizTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
We are thrilled to welcome Retta to Work Friends today. The actor, HGTV host, and one-half of the team who brought us “treat yo self ” joins Sali to share how a prospective medical student and a somewhat reluctant stand-up comedian found herself cast on one of the most beloved sitcoms in history.Retta is best known for her portrayal of Donna Meagle in all seven seasons of Parks and Recreation, and since the hit show wrapped, she continues to captivate with roles in Girlfriends’ Guide to Divorce, Good Girls, and in seven seasons of HGTV’s Ugliest House in America and its spinoff Scariest House in America. We start all the way at the beginning, and get into some of Retta’s best stories along the way, including:the very first time she ever did stand up (she crushed it!), and the second (she bombed!).how she planned her path to med school and then abandoned it....yet why she refuses to throw away her MCAT books.the real reason she thinks she was cast as Donna on Parks and Rec.how she learned to be her authentic, unfiltered self as the host of Ugliest House in America.and, what she really thinks when someone quotes “treat yo self” to her.For more Retta, be sure to check out the newest season of Ugliest House in America, now streaming on HBO Max and discovery+ .On Sali: Argent Chelsea Blazer, Fine Polo, and Straight Leg TrouserHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan Woldoff @c__bizTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Today, Beth Hutchens sits down with Sali. Beth has spent her career in fashion, first cofounding the Rebecca Taylor brand in her 20s, alongside designer Rebecca Taylor. As CEO, Beth saw the company reach massive success. But after nearly two decades, she stepped away and launched Foundrae.The celebrity-loved jewelry brand is known for its stunning, statement-making adornments that feature 18 karat gold, precious stones, and symbols—both overt and subtle—that make each piece a personal treasure for whoever wears it.Naturally, when it comes to making a big career change, Beth is a supporter. After all, it’s no small feat to become a successful two-time founder. She joins us to share more about how she navigated:launching a fashion brand without a business plan.the absolute “lawless” fashion industry of the ‘90s.how she decided to step down from a company she thought she would spend her entire life at.the “stupid” mistakes she made when she launched Foundrae.and the questions anyone should ask themselves before making a major career pivot.On Sali: Argent Belted Peak Lapel Blazer and Tailored Cargo Pants and Foundrae Sister Hook Necklace, Pause Small Mixed Clip Extension Necklace, and Strong Heart BangleOn Beth: Argent Oversized V-Neck SweaterHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan Woldoff @c__bizTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Nikki Ogunnaike joins Sali to tell the story of her career, one that’s landed her at the top of the masthead as the Editor-in-Chief of Marie Claire. Prior to taking the helm over two years ago, Nikki stacked her resume with roles at some of the most prestigious fashion publications in the world: InStyle, Glamour, Elle, GQ, and Harper’s Bazaar among them. Over the course of her career, she’s covered the major moves in the capital-F Fashion industry, dived deep into celebrity style, and is a certifiable shopping expert. Since stepping into her role at Marie Claire—and launching her own podcast, Nice Talk—Nikki has also become a leader on power: what it means and the women who wield it for good. She is certainly one, as well. Today, she gives us a look at her over-decade-long career, including:having an expectation of excellence from a young age, as a first-generation Nigerian American.building a portfolio of work from one fashion publication to another…with some tough transitions along the way.learning about the New York elite and how the fashion industry is really just “a game at the end of the day.”why she actually didn't want to be an Editor-in-Chief.and, now that she is one, how she’s approaching her leadership role at a historic publication.Plus, be sure to check out the January Marie Claire issue, featuring cover star Keke Palmer!On Sali: Argent Double-Breasted Blazer, Soho Trouser, and Fine PoloOn Nikki: Argent Double-Breasted Crewneck BlazerHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Today’s guest on Work Friends, we have a guest who—for many—needs no introduction: Ricki Lake. As a teen, Ricki landed her breakout role as Tracy Turnblad in John Waters’ Hairspray and, just a few years later, became the youngest talk show host in history with her self-titled show, Ricki Lake. Today on Work Friends, the ‘90s icon sits down with Sali to get into the reality (and major missteps) of her success, including:landing her first roles in Hollywood, without a plan B.navigating the chapter when her work dried up.how playing Tracy Turnblad helped her become a good talk show host.the famously scandalous storylines that played out over 11 seasons of her show.the project she considers to be her legacy (that’s not her talk show).how shes holding up after losing her home in LA wildfires last year.and what’s defining this chapter of life and work for the one-and-only Ricki Lake.On Sali: Argent Double Breasted Crewneck BlazerOn Ricki: Argent Unlined Chelsea BlazerHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
This week, Sali sits down with Lisa Joseph Metelus, the Head of Athlete Brand Strategy and Board Member at Creative Artists Agency, and Co-founder of PlayMakeHer. Over Lisa’s three-decade career, she’s been a force behind the biggest, most-celebrated athletes of our time. This includes Hall of Famers Alonzo Mourning and Dwyane Wade, with whom Lisa has worked for over 20 years. Lisa has not only found incredible success in a male-dominated field, she’s also committed to uplifting fellow women in the business of sports. In that spirit, she gets totally candid about the mistakes she’s made along the way. This episode is not to be missed, as Lisa shares:the origins of her love of basketball.the near career-ending mistake she made as an intern (it involved an NBA party and learning why you shouldn’t mix liquors).how she landed a job in sports, despite no one wanting to hire her—and what she did to prove herself.what a manager actually does. (And yes, it’s different than an agent.)and, how Lisa is helping women succeed through building a community of mentors.On Sali: Argent Double Breasted Crewneck Blazer and Single Pleat TrouserOn Lisa: Argent Peak Lapel Blazer and Crewneck DressHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podhead Studios @podheadstudiosWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Today, Sali is joined by the President and CEO of the National Women’s Law Center, Fatima Goss Graves. A staunch champion for all women and girls and defender of civil rights, Fatima is a first-generation lawyer who comes from a family that intimately understands the importance of equal protection under the law. In this episode, she gets into her backstory, as well as what it was like navigating Yale Law School (not without imposter syndrome) and, eventually, navigating Congress (not without Real Housewives comparisons). Fatima is a wealth of knowledge and inspiration, especially in the current political climate, and shares:how she found success, without knowing the “secret language” of Yale Law. how some laws that “defend” and “advance” women may actually be doing to opposite.what to know if you believe your civil rights are being stripped away.the common misconception around creating societal change, and why you should actually think smaller. And, much more!On Sali: Argent Belted Double-Breasted Blazer and Single Pleat Trouser, and Argent x Citizens of Humanity Nello TeeOn Fatima: Argent Chelsea Blazer and Wide Leg TrouserWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podhead Studios @podheadstudiosWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
This week, Sali welcomes Gregg Renfrew, the Founder of Counter, a beauty company that launched earlier this year. Previously, Founder and CEO of the now-defunct Beauty Counter, Gregg has experienced all the highs and lows of entrepreneurship as she grew her first beauty brand into a $1 billion business—only for it to go into foreclosure a few years later. At the last minute, Gregg decided to buy back the rights to the company name and its signature product formulas. Enter: Counter and an all-new chapter for Gregg, the CEO.Counter offers some of the same bestselling products that people associate with Gregg’s previous company and, more importantly, the same commitment to clean ingredients and transparency. We’ll dive into it all, including:prioritizing social life over school studies (aka honing your soft skills!)why she launched a beauty brand in the first place, and enlisted a community of individual sellers.how she sold her $1 billion business, witnessed its fall, and the exact moment she took a leap and bought it back.what clean beauty actually means and what it looks like in practice for Counter.the key differences between Counter and Gregg’s first business, and so much more.On Sali: Argent Plush Turtleneck Sweater and Straight Leg TrouserWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podhead Studios @podheadstudiosWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Today, Sali sits down with Abby Phillip, the host of NewsNight with Abby Phillip on CNN. Since joining the network in 2017, Abby has covered the biggest headlines in the country and around the globe. Notably, she also co-moderated the democratic debate for the 2020 presidential election.A self-professed introvert, Abby got her start in print and digital media and never set out to be on television. But today, she’s widely recognized as one of the most prominent voices of political news. Just last week, she also released her debut book, A Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power (be sure to pick up a copy!), which has been years in the making and documents the legacy of the political and civil rights leader.As a journalist, Abby is a steady, calming presence among a slew of emotionally charged headlines. She sits down to share her career story, including:why she switched from pre-med to journalism while at Harvard.feeling like a fish out of water in the workplace, and the “myth” about hard work and merit.why she waited a year to accept a job on camera at CNN.how the 2020 democratic debate was both a career high and a career low.and, her advice for future journalists: “be a good guy.”On Sali: Argent Double-Breasted Blazer, Soho Trouser, and Fine CrewneckOn Abby: Argent Double-Breasted Crewneck BlazerWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Welcome to Argent’s first-ever live Work Friends episode, recorded earlier this month at the Tech Futures Summit in New York. Sali was joined on stage by New York Liberty Forward Breanna Stewart and Executive Vice President of Talent and The Collective at Wasserman, Lindsay Kagawa Colas. Lindsay manages an incredible roster of star athletes, including Stewie.Right in the thick of the WNBA’s new collective-bargaining agreement, Stewie and Lindsay opened up about the inequitable playing field that exists and what they hope to see from the league going forward. And, in true Work Friends fashion, we get into their backstories, too. This is a conversation not to be missed, including:Stewie’s reaction to her Unrivaled co-founder, Napheesa Collier’s comments on WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert.how Lindsay negotiated the first-ever Inclusion Rider into an athlete's contract.why the Unrivaled league is so necessary for women basketball players, who typically play overseas in the off-season.how fans can support the WNBA in their fight for equitable pay, and so much more.Both Stewie and Lindsay’s work sparks attention and societal change—they are cultural conversion starters and actively work to push the status quo. I’m honored to have them both join me today to speak more about their work on and off the court.On Sali: Argent Cowl Neck Blouse and Straight Leg TrouserOn Stewie: Argent Peak Lapel Blazer and Wide Leg TrouserOn Lindsay: Argent Chelsea Blazer, Waistcoat, and Straight Pintuck TrouserWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded Live at the 2025 Tech Futures SummitWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
This week, Sali sits down with Shaniqua McClendon, a political strategist, commentator, and the Vice President of Politics for Crooked Media. Shaniqua has spent her career in politics—starting with an internship in the Obama White House, followed by stints with several elected officials. In 2018, she joined Crooked Media—a company most known for its suite of popular podcasts, including Pod Save America—in a role that’s focused heavily on its Vote Save America initiative. It’s here where Shaniqua’s work has been making incredible strides to drive voters into action, in both the biggest elections nationwide and on local levels. To date, she’s helped raise over $70 million for progressive causes and candidates, and driven nearly a million people to register to vote or check their registration.At a time when political angst is high, Shaniqua’s background has prepared her to meet this moment, and she shares it all—highs and lows—in today’s episode, including:how witnessing Hurricane Katrina moved her to work in politics.landing a job on The Hill—what she considers her late mother’s final gift to her.the “pay it forward” lesson that’s left a lasting impression.why she considers attending the Harvard Kennedy School to be some of the most difficult years of her life.getting hired at Crooked Media…even if in a rather undefined role at first.launching a new vision of Vote Save America, and so much more.On Sali: Argent Chelsea Blazer, Tank, and Prince TrouserOn Shaniqua: Argent Scoop Neck Double-Breasted Dress Work Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Courtney Mays is the image architect behind some of basketball's biggest stars: Sue Bird, Sabrina Ionescu, Breanna Stewart, Diana Taurasi, and Chris Paul, among others. And as such, she plays a major role in the styling the players’ rotation of tunnel ‘fits and red carpet looks, alike. Courtney came to styling A-list athletes in a more roundabout way—starting with a job in retail, then as a stylist assistant, before working her way to becoming her own boss.She sits down with Sali to discuss how she built her dream client roster, among other important learnings and highlights, such as:the service/creative balance of being a professional stylist.how to advocate for her clients, and herself.the importance of giving yourself your flowers.preparing Liberty team players, as well as owner Clara Wu Tsai, for the Met Gala this past May.and, which WBNA star reignited her love of styling. Plus, much more.On Sali: Argent Ribbed Slim CardiganWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podhead Studios @podheadstudiosWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Today, Sali is joined by Lauren Sherman, one of the most prominent voices in fashion journalism. The Fashion Correspondent at Puck, writer behind the Line Sheet newsletter, and host of the Fashion People podcast has her pulse on the industry’s major players, insights into how business is done, and—most importantly—is the expert at distilling it to the masses. An adept interviewer, Lauren has the tables flipped today as Sali gets the real story about how she’s built her career. Take a listen for:how she fell in love with fashion through Jane Pratt’s Sassy magazine.what it was like breaking into the fashion industry, learning which jobs to accept and which to reject.her advice for knowing your worth and not being attached to what your end goal looks like.how she approaches her reporting at Puck, and how it’s indicative of a new era of media.why The Devil Wears Prada is an “accurate” depiction of fashion, and so much more.On Sali: Argent Copain Blazer, Oversized Pocket Tee, and Wooster ShortWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podhead Studios @podheadstudiosWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Trinny Woodall is a founder, CEO, author, podcast host, and something of a culture sensation. She was one half of the duo behind the What Not to Wear series—the original one launched in the UK in the early 2000s—and for the past eight years, she has been on a fascinating entrepreneurial journey with her namesake beauty brand: Trinny London. The company was launched with a focus on giving women confidence, at any age or stage of life. And it was not without major pushback. Thankfully, Trinny is incredibly resilient and holds nothing back in this conversation, offering the kind of zero-BS reflections every entrepreneur needs to hear, including:what she learned in recovery that resonates in her professional life today.how she became the co-host of What Not to Wear and her deep appreciation for the power of a makeover.deciding to rent out her dream home and sell all her clothing to help fund her beauty business, Trinny London.learning to tailor her brand message depending on who she’s speaking to (and why she still references Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus)and much, much more.On Trinny: ARGENT x Citizens of Humanity Chelsea Blazer and Park TrouserWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Today, Vicky Tsai shares her incredible story of building a career that aligns with her passion. The founder and former CEO of Tatcha sits down with Sali as they discuss how she built successful careers in finance and marketing before quitting both to seek a more fulfilling path.In 2009, she launched Tatcha, an esteemed beauty company inspired by centuries-old traditions passed down from geishas in Japan. It began with a singular product—the Aburatorigami Japanese Blotting Papers—and grew into a brand beloved by makeup artists, actors, and consumers everywhere.Of course, there were many bumps and sacrifices along the way, and Vicky candidly shares them all today, including:spending years struggling to find products that soothed her eczema.traveling to Japan to learn about traditional geisha beauty rituals.facing extreme financial hardship while bringing a new company to life.selling her own engagement ring to pay for Tatcha’s very first product on the market.having her company acquired...and then getting pushed out.and how she made her return to Tatcha and is marking the current chapter of her business.On Sali: Argent Boyfriend Blazer,  Maybelle Pocket Tee, and Argent X Citizens of Humanity Alya BaggyOn Vicky: Argent X Citizens of Humanity WaistcoatWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podhead Studios @podheadstudiosWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Today, Sali sits down with Laura Modi, the woman changing the way we think about feeding babies. The mother of four is the CEO and cofounder of Bobbie, an organic formula company that was born out of her own feeding frustrations after giving birth to her first child. In 2018, she officially set out to launch Bobbie as a direct-to-consumer, subscription-based company, and it would become the only mom-founded and -led infant formula brand in the world.Bobbie has been at the forefront of supporting parents—and it’s in large part thanks to Laura’s leadership. But baby formula was not always the long-term plan for her, and in today’s episode, she’ll share:why she left Ireland to work in Silicon Valley, and the major differences between the two.the breastfeeding experience that left her feeling guilt-ridden yet inspired her to start Bobbie.what it takes to create a product for the most vulnerable population—there’s zero room for error.putting up the very first breastfeeding billboard in Times Square.and why it fuels her when people describe her work as “cute.”On Sali: Argent X Citizens of Humanity Unlined Weekend Blazer, Park Trouser, and Maybelle Pocket TeeOn Laura: Argent Double Breasted Blazer and Ribbed Collar SweaterWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Amanda Litman has a clear vision for what the next generation of leadership looks like—and it may include a four-day workweek, among other things. As the co-founder and president of Run For Something, Amanda leads an organization that recruits and supports young, diverse candidates to run for office—backing over 3,000 rookie candidates to date, and receiving an influx of over 60,000 new hopefuls since the 2024 election alone. Amanda is also the author of the recently released When We’re in Charge, a must-read for anyone in, or aspiring to be in, a leadership position. We’ll discuss it all, including:what it was like working for President Barack Obama and Secretary Hillary Clinton.how parenting and leading a team are actually not all that different.why you should consider adopting a four-day workweek. Yes, really!the barrage of phone calls she received after the 2016 election that led to the launch of Run For Something.and why diversity and inclusion are not only morally good, but good for business.On Sali: Argent Double-Breasted Blazer and Pleated Trouser in lemon, and Crewneck Tank in ivory.On Amanda: Argent Two-Button Blazer and Jones Trouser in powder blue.Work Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
This week, Sali is joined by LaFawn Davis, the Chief People & Sustainability Officer at Indeed. Her work leading culture, diversity, and inclusion at major tech companies—including Google, Yahoo, PayPal, eBay, and Twilio—spans over a decade. In addition to her incredible leadership, LaFawn is a STAR, otherwise known as a professional who’s Skilled Through Alternative Routes. She’s an advocate for skills-based hiring and is herself an esteemed C-suite executive who didn't complete college.LaFawn’s career story has not been linear, and is truly inspiring. She also has a wealth of knowledge when it comes to navigating the many challenges facing the modern workforce. In this episode, she shares:the struggle to get a job interview without having a college degree.how she became a leader at some of the biggest tech companies in the world.what more employers need to understand about hiring for longevity.why it may be late to start thinking about how to use AI at work, and what you can do about it right now.On LaFawn: Argent Double-Breasted Blazer and Park TrouserWork Friends CreditsHosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
Our guest today is Shannon Watts, the founder of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America—the largest grassroots movement in the country. Back in 2012, Shannon began her career in activism when she posted a call to action on Facebook to end gun violence, in response to the horrors of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. Her message was met with an overwhelming response, and soon after, the mother of five and former communications executive founded Moms Demand Action. Although Shannon stepped down as the founder in 2023, she continues to work to mobilize massive change on the boards of Emerge America—an organization dedicated to recruiting and training women to run for office—and Advance Peace—a community-based organization focused on ending gun violence. And now, she’s joining us right ahead of the launch of her second book, Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark Into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age. Her inspiring story includes:completing her education while battling undiagnosed ADHD.unexpectedly becoming the leader of the largest grassroots movement in the countrytaking on the gun lobby and facing frightening pushback.avoiding the trap of “founders’ syndrome.”and what it means to live a life that’s on fire.On Sali: Argent Copain Blazer and Maybelle Pocket TeeOn Shannon: Argent Tuxedo Blazer, Stretch Blouse, and Cropped Straight Leg Trouser Work Friends Credits:Hosted by Sali Christeson @salichristesonProduced by Gina Marinelli @ginaalilbitEdited by Ryan WoldoffTheme Song by Karina DePiano @sheplaysdepiano & Melanie Nyema @melanienyemaRecorded at Podstream Studio @podstreamstudioWork Friends is produced by ARGENT (www.argentwork.com), a women’s clothing label on a mission to redefine workwear and drive forward women’s progress. For more, follow ARGENT on Instagram, @ARGENT, and subscribe to the ARGENT YouTube channel, @ARGENTWork, for clips and bonus content. To be featured on a future episode, email your work questions and dilemmas to WorkFriends@ARGENTWork.com for a chance to have one of our amazing guests weigh in with advice.
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